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. this is cnn breaking news. welcome to our viewers joining us here in the united states and all around the world i'm rosemary church, we continue tracking breaking news out of the middle east this hour where major earthquake killed hundreds of people in syria and turkey and the death toll is rising. syrian state media report at least 237 people have died in syria and more than 600 injured an unknown number could be trapped under rubble. we got this video earlier of a rescuer carrying an injured child away from the rubble of a damaged building. the white helmets rescue group known as the syrian self-defense declared the north western part of syria a disaster area, dozens of buildings collapsed that both country, turkey's vice president said at least 284 died in southern turkey and more than 23 hon injured, emergency workers

asking for silence to hear possible cries for help from people trapped under the rubble. the governor of istanbul said nearly 1,000 search and rescue volunteers are heading to the region and turkeyly disaster and emergency agency is calling for international support. the netherlands are answering saying the will send a search and rescue team to turkey, the u.s. geological survey said the epicenter of the 7.8 magnitude quake was the strongest to hit turkey since 1939, at least 18 after shocks with a magnitude greater than 4 have been reported. and cnn scott mclean is following developments joining us live from london's good morning to you, scott. this powerful earthquake hit in the early hours in the morning, after 4:00 a.m. meaning most people were sleeping, which is exactly why there's so much

concern about this rapidly rising loss of life. what more are you learning. >> most videos we're seeing of buildings that collapsed look very much like these are residential apartment buildings, hopefully that's not the case but obviously the loss of life here will be tremendous, the latest numbers we have from the turkish vice president off is 284 dead, hundreds injured and buildings damaged across ten cities, what they know about at this point in time. we've also gotten an update from turkey's disaster and emergency management agency i'll take you through some things we've learned. people are being sent to safe indoor spaces like schools and mosques, obviously single story much better than a high-rise building at this stage. schools obviously closed today and tomorrow, maybe longer than that, gas has been shut off in many regions obvious reasons so they don't have fires started because of shifting soil and

buildings and electricity is out in many regions, they're also struggling with mobile network connectivity in some of the worst affected areas and so what they're trying to do instead is send out generosity and mobile cell towers so people can still reach loved ones and obviously so that the emergency services can still function as well. and of course, heavy machinery will be one of the best things they have to contend with or one of the biggest needs across this affected area and you know you, you heard earlier from our colleague who is in gaziantep, he said the city so many to have it the people who may not have it is in some smaller towns, i also want to show you a piece of video we've just gotten in of a rescue effort, a city nearby where they have seen fatalities and buildings collapse. this is man trying to reach a woman trappe d under the rubble.

let's listen for a second. gives you a sense, that video you saw there. woman was asking is the girl there. the man said what girl what is she wearing? she wearing pink and the man you saw there trying to get at this other woman said, ma'am, cups just think about yourself? i can't see anyone else or anything else at this moment, the woman trapped is obviously worried about another girl may be down there as well. these are the types of scenes playing out across the region, we're also getting new pieces of video from our colleague in gaziantep of some of the scenes there, and what i found particularly remarkable about these videos, rosemary, is that you have scenes like this one, where one building is completely in tact or seems that way. then this one has you know,

completely collapsed. it is difficult to imagine that it's going to be easy to find anyone alive under rubble like that. it does not inspire a whole lot of optimism about the rescue efforts there. here's another example of an entire street where you have apartment buildings that look at least at first glance like in decent shape and another one completely collapsed and you have that piece of heavy machinery trying to move debris around, obviously a very sensitive situation you don't want to move anything too much because obviously they're hoping to find people still alive there. we also know that from gaziantep, a major historical monument, a major tourist attraction, the gaziantep citadel sustained heavy damage as well, so obviously not just the loss of life, but the loss of some very important historical -- at least one important historical site as well. he described on the scene in gaziantep, there was lots of

volunteers, heavy equipment but he's on his way out to the epicenter more rural areas smaller towns where there's plenty of concerns about whether or not they have the equipment they need, whether or not there is adequate cell phone service, connectivity, so it may be that at the moment, highest death toll now is in gaziantep where at least 80 people killed, but it's possible there are high death tolls in some other towns, we haven't heard. >> we're saying people there using bare hands to try to get to people for the most part, scott mclean, many thanks for bringing us latest there. cnn supervising meteorologist brandon miller joins us in studio and of course, we were talking last hour, we were talking about the fact that we're, this is a 7.8 magnitude earthquake, people were in their beds as we

mentioned there with scott >> early morning, in some deepest sleep at that point of the morning, and they had three hours >> you use science don't you as a way to sort of estimate what you're dealing with here, how tragic this could be, how do you work that. >> i have some latest models from the usgs. the united states urological survey, the depth of the earthquake, vulnerability, number of people. gaziantep, as scott said is some of the highest population numbers so that's likely where you'll find a number basis where you'll find so many fatalities but i we're as you get outside of that more rural areas with a lot of terrain to the northeast, we saw the strike slip fault went for a couple of hundred kilometers to the northeast. what does that mean? means epicenters aren't just a point on map even though we look at them and it's a star or red circle. they can go on for many kilometers or you know, 100

miles maybe in this case, so that's 7.8 magnitude wasn't just that one location, it was felt all along that slip. so what that means, the earth is, the earth's crust is broken up into plates and they're constantly pushing up against each other, rubbing against each other and sometimes the tension is too great and pops, and this pop was over 150 miles maybe. as you get further to the northeast along the slip, you'll get into areas that maybe don't have buildings built as well. and we're seeing some, you see the picture, some buildings that are built well are already tumbling. what does that mean for one that is aren't? there may be in the higher elevation where is there's landslides, which just makes things worse >> you mentioned the buildings because turkey is no stranger to earthquakes and nor is syria, certainly in that part of syria,

the north. so what is the problem obviously in this sense we'll rebuild the structures and will build them presumably if there is funds to make sure they can with stand an earthquake of this magnitude but for the most part these buildings are not able to do that. >> that's biggest thing, takes a lot of money to do that, really outside of parts of japan some parts of china, california, of course, has a lot of earthquake resistant structures but even some of the best ones aren't going to be that effective against 7.8 magnitude. we talk in weather a lot about hurricane resistant structures and you have the hurricane scale that goes from one to five. you can build it to with stand category 3, category 4. when the wind get 150, 160 miles an hour like we've seen with hurricanes in recent years, you can't build to that. it's not cost effective at all. and it's really just impossible

at some point or weather, in this case, the earth itself is too powerful and a lot depends not just the building but the soil underneath it. as you get closer to the water, you might have sandier soil that will what we call lick fication, even if it's very well built, if the ground it's on goes to liquid, it's going to fall down. so you see that as well, and fortunately most of this ground isn't of this, as you go further south i'm sure there's some, the mountains it's a little bit sturdier rock but again you'll run into landslides, we know the weather is poor, that's something i was just looking at. raining we've seen rain in some image, wet streets. and cold, four, five degrees celsius, upper 30's fahrenheit, that's cold and it will get

colder the next 24, 48 hours, some rain will turn to snow in some locations it's miserable weather to be in you're not i'm going to want to be inside, you'll want to be outside because when the building shakes you don't want it to fall on you. we often look at the weather in the days after a big event and in this, it's not good. >> that's the problem, it's problematic in a number of ways, because it makes it very difficult in terms of search and rescue efforts but also people will be without a home for a very, very long time. making sure that the government steps up and helps some of these people. >> and no power as well even if you have a house you're not going to have power to heat it. >> as you say you'd rather be outside in those instances. brandon miller thank you so much for talking with us, appreciate it. still to come, u.s. lawmakers demand answers about the suspected chinese spy balloon, we'll explain why the

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pulled from the rubble after one of the strongest earthquakes to hit turkey more than a century, more than 500 killed, nearly 3,000 injured in turkey and neighboring syria, the u.s. geological survey said the earthquake had a magnitude of 7.8. at least 18 after shocks with a magnitude of more than four have been recorded since that ineligible quake, it was so powerful it could be felt in lebanon as well as israel and the palestinian territories. >> we are learning critical details about when u.s. officials became aware of the suspected chinese spy balloon last week, and when they alerted president biden. days before it was shot down, off the south carolina coast, it was spotted around alaska, when it began drafted towards the mainland, officials say they realized it was a situation requiring the president's attention and ordered the

military to shoot it down once safe to do so, the navy is trying to recover the balloon's remnants, a resident in south carolina filmed uniform men inspecting possible debris on a boat but cnn cannot confirm that it came from the balloon. u.s. officials say they also grew concern when the balloon hovered over missile sites, earlier the u.s. transportation secretary discussed the biden administration response to the situation. >> u.s. made clear this is an unacceptable intrusion into american sovereignty, you can expect that any further developments will be appropriate in response to what happened >> china's defense ministry accused the u.s. of overreacting by shooting the balloon down and says china quote reserves the right to use necessary means to deal with similar situations. let's get more now on china's reaction from our beijing bureau chief steven. steven, what's latest on china's

reaction to this? >> well, rosemary, actually have new development for you on the stories that just in the last hour, china for the first time acknowledged that the second balloon spotted in the skies above latin america also belong to clean and they're very much sticking to the same story line saying that is also a civilian vessel used for flight tests and drifted off course due to weather, and a foreign ministry spokesperson said that balloon posed no threat to relevant countries and china explained the situation to the governments and according to her, those governments have, quote, unquote, expressed their understanding. that, of course, is not a reaction china got from washington, which as you mentioned is why the government here is accusing washington of overreacting and many of course see that as i ironic given the sovereignty and national security. now the defense ministry

mentioned the broad vague threat they issued against the u.s. the foreign ministry spokesperson said the u.s. option to shoot the balloon down was irresponsible, and also very much unacceptable, and she also sent the attempt by the u.s. to hype up the incident was very much unacceptable. that's the line there we're repeating time and again probably directed very much at a domestic audience but, one thing worth noting very few possibly think at this juncture we'll see immediate chinese action against the u.s. and part of that sentiment is being reflected on the government controlled social media platform where things don't seem to have reached a fever pitch, which is something we've previously seen in similar situations when the two governments have run-ins, the we're is long-term wise because of this latest incident could

sense advise them to take action in the region especially man craft and vessel >> steven young joining us live from beijing. you say house republicans are said to be considering a resolution the biden administration for its handling of the balloon, could be as soon as tuesday the same day president biden will deliver his first state of the union address, cnn has our report. >> president biden continues to face questions over his decision making to rates the down the suspected chinese spy balloon until it was out over the atlantic on saturday, house republicans are considering voting on a resolution to criticize the biden administration for their response throughout the days long incident, the white house faced criticism from republicans who tried to paint president biden as indecisive, slow to act and weak in his approach towards

china, here's senator marco rubio, the vice chair of the senate intelligence committee. >> they calculated this carefully with a message imbedded and that's the part we can't forget, it's the message they're trying to send the world we can do whatever we want and america can't stop us >> the white house defended president biden's decision, make process calling it deliberative and saying he took the responsible action a commander in chief, take, transportation secretary pete buttigieg appeared on the sunday shows where he offered a defense for the biden administration. saying that the president prioritized keeping american lives as safe as possible throughout this process. additionally, officials say that the president directed his military team that when they did shoot down this balloon, they did so in a way that would maximize the recovery efforts of that payload, trying to glean as much information as possible from the devices, officials growing the best way to do that was while doing it over water. but these are all questions the white house continue to face in

the coming days and week, liberals already promised hearings into the matter and the so-called gang of eight, the leaders and ranking members of the intelligence committees and top leaders in the house and senate will be briefed possibly as soon as tuesday and there will be a more senate classified briefing february 15th. are let saenz cnn the white house >> earlier i spoke with them and asked them about president biden's respond to balloon incident and why republicans appear to be politicizing the issue. here's part of that conversation. >> a lot of republicans that we're hearing from and many i had spoken with, this is not about politics. this is about national security. and the question many continue to have is what took so long. and not only that, we're seeing that across the globe, looking at international headlines for

this, that the high altitude spying spark as new low in u.s. china relations. look, it is unconceivable to hear china now say that, what the united states did in response was overreacting and provocative. when, in fact, what is provocative is sending a spy drone to any portion of the united states let alone across the entire country and for the expect some kind of reaction and some kind of consequence for those actions and looking what i'm also hearing from many republicans in washington, dc is they're hearing from their constituents, republicans and democrats who are outraged also rosemary to length of time it took for action to be taken, and it's also putting new spotlight on the dangers that china poses on many fronts, not just in terms of their surveillance and their spying capabilities, but human rights abuses and with the many of the actions they're

doing across the globe, not the least of which is their failure to condemn russia for its invasion of ukraine. so this just yet again puts a new spotlight on the many dangers that we face with china. >> caroline, your reaction to house gop members pushing to vote on a resolution tuesday condemning president biden's handling of the suspected chinese spy balloon question what do you say. >> hyper billic in terms of a national security threat, it's a minor threat, it's brazen but anyone in intelligence can tell you they can get better information using satellites, spy satellites and a variety of other sources this was absolutely brazen but not a big threat to security. at the end of the day republicans are making hay out of this, i don't think we should be politicizing anything with china, alice is right in the sense we have to be concerned about human rights abuses, i would add to that, certainly anti-competitive practices, the

fact that they're shipping chemicals to mexico to make fentanyl that's killed 100,000 americans a year, the situation in taiwan, we don't need partisan politics driving our foreign policy with one of the major trading partners the second biggest economic super power in the world. we don't need this partisan baloney that has entered the national political sphere because this is not a national security concern. >> thanks to caroline and alice for their analysis. still to come more on our breaking news this hour, a major earthquake kills hundreds of people in turkey and in neighboring syria. back in a moment. ♪. ♪.

. the death toll continues to climb after turkey was hit by one of the its strongest earthquakes in more than 100 years, more than 500 people killed in turkey and neighboring syria, thousands of others injured. the quake caused hundreds of buildings to collapse and now there is a desperate and urgent search and rescue underway to reach people trapped beneath the rubble. the 7.8 magnitude quake struck doctor day break centered in the gaziantep province, since then, at least 18 after shocks stronger than 4 have been reported. i mean joined from london and the cnn weather center, scott, starting with you you're seeing the death toll rise in the wake of this powerful earthquake in

central turkey, also impacting syria as the search and rescue teams look for survivors in the rubble. what is the latest. >> i'll let karen tell you about weather but certainly it is not helping, it is hovering around freezing a little bit above, colder than usual and in some places they're actually seeing not just rain but snow, just one more thing to add to the difficulty here and the situation that they're seeing in southern turkey. there are possibly who had been sent to schools, mosque, indoor places because of the weather obviously, many people can't be outside for long periods of time and obviously we're seeing desperate search efforts, one you're seeing on screen there on top of these piles of rubble that frankly it's difficult to imagine anyone could possibly be under. yet we're seeing these remarkable pictures of people survivors coming out of those areas and there's a video that i want you to show you coming out of the city of malatia, a small

city, it is not right at the epicenter but not far, i'll play it for you now. listen. gives you a sense of chaos trying to communicate with people who may be trapped under the rubble and you see possibly using hands to try to get people when frankly they need heavy equipment but even heavy equipment it's difficult because it's very sensitive you don't want to move anything in the wrong way because you may risk the life of someone who is trapped underneath. you don't want to end's having something heavy you know, slab of concrete falling on someone below. they are also struggling to deal with basics, they've can the off

gas to many reasons for obvious reasons so they don't have fire starting. they're also power cuts in many areas, and mobile phone connectivity especially near the epicenter is not good as well. so what they're trying to do is trying to get mobile generosity out to make sure people have some level of connectivity there but it's an extremely difficult situation, rosemary, latest figures 284 dead more than 2300 injured, and more than 1700 buildings damaged in some way across ten cities and this is just what we know few hours into this, surely those numbers will rise in a big way. >> horrifying situation for those trapped and of course, family members trying to get loved ones out. so let's turn to karen now, and karen the weather is cold and wet? and that is not helping search and rescue efforts. what are you saying in the forecast and what's happening with those after shocks? >> at last report, when i look

at this about ten minutes ago, there were 24 after shocks, we say after shocks, sounds like this is a diminished earthquake, it's still an earthquake, these buildings are still vulnerable to collapsing, there's also -- there has already been 7.8 magnitude earthquake that struck 4:00 local time in the south central city of turkey. now, these dots, the yellow dots represent where these after shocks have occurred , and what is very interesting about this is you might think of an earthquake as the epicenter kind of concentric circles around one spot, a central zone where the earthquake happened. look at this, this geometry of motion, right along that fault line. that's what we're seeing, these after shocks, between 4.0 and 5.something after shocks, there was one about 11 minutes after

this major earthquake, 7.8, occurred, 11 minutes, it was 6.8 magnitude. so not only was there the initial collapse of buildings, the trauma of all of this, and just kind of the infrastructure that was impacted by this as well, but then this after shock is unnerving for a lot of these people. you may think this is kind of a remote area, it is not. there are hundreds of thousands of people right where the epicenter was but also towards the northeast along the fault line kind of fascinating to really study that as we are seeing in this area, probably one of the world's most active spots for seismic activity. for earthquakes. and it is devastating. we know this from al epo in hesitate has been devastated by earthquakes and rosemary we mentioned about 100 years ago,

there was a 7.8 magnitude earthquake. that earthquake claimed the lives of 16, 17,000 people, you can see some recovery efforts taking place here, this is a dreadful situation. you asked me about the weather, they're seeing cold rain and in some instances it may be rain mixed with snow as storm system is moving across the area and impacting those people that have been displaced cross northern syria where they felt it as well, the 7.8 magnitude earthquake >> thank you both for joining us. the head of delegation for the international federation for red cross for syria and he joins me on the line from glass damascus, what are you able to tell me. >> thanks for having me, while

the situation in syria and especially the northwest of syria, the situation is very much like the one described for turkey. the earthquake hit the northwest early this morning, in areas that are already in need of humanitarian aid after 12 years of conflict and a very rapidly declining economy in syria. we see major infrastructure damage in alepo, lataka, in the northwest of the country. many city centers have been hit very hard and some rural areas we see extensive damage as well but the city centers are hit. the buildings were decayed after bombings from the war so they were susceptible to falling apart. latest figures over 200 dead,

over 700 wounded but these numbers are increasing by the hour. an eight-story building collapsed and 100 people in that building unaccounted for, some 33 come out alive but hundred people unaccounted for. so it's a large scale emergency we're facing here. tense of thousands are homeless due to damage in the structure and the local economy is plummeting and resources are limited to tackle such a large scale emergency. and services are really >> you mentioned all those people who are now homeless and of course, that is where your organization steps in. but so many people will be out without a home for a very, very long time. so what happens in those instances? do they rely totally on your organization for food, water, shelter? >> absolutely.

the syriian red cross have been the first responders since early morning provided life saving support, search and rescue, provided heavy machinery to move rubble and debris transport wounded dead body management, food and water and preservation of shelter materials. what we're discussing at the moment with authorities is to opening shelters for the many that have been displaced from their homes, these discussions are still going on but the provision of shelter materials for people to have at least a roof over their head, have food, water and maybe some warm clothes is going on, so to speak. then we're waiting for the outcome of negotiations with the government on formal shelters. as for the international federation of red cross and red societies, we're supporting releasing funds from our

disaster relief emergency fund, immediate cash that would come in quickly as possible to help the operation. cash is what is needed at the moment. we need cash to be able to hire in machinery, government doesn't have these resources, we need to hire in machinery from the private sector. a lot of services are not available in syria and cash is therefore one of the means that we are looking for in terms of the critic's response we can provide. >> totally understand. while speaking with us, we were locking at the extraordinary pictures of that very young child who was saved and rescued under all of that rubble. i don't suppose you have any information on that particular rescue. do you? >> not on that particular rescue, mind you there are hundreds if not thousands by now that needs to be rescued and the health services are overwhelmed

at the moment. the health services still operating and there are not many in a country like syria. over 80% are not operating. so it's a big mouthful for not only our organization but all organizations here as well as the authorities >> thank you so much joining us on the line there from damascus syria. >> and selma, we were talking about this earthquake that devastated both turkey and syria in terms of lost lives and those collapsed buildings, but it was felt across the area in a number of the countries talk to his about that >> absolutely but syria the focus now, rosemary, as you heard that aide worker who just spoke to you, there are serious concerns about the syria government ability to provide services, places for people to

go, provide shelter, provide rescue operations, this is a country suffered over a decade of war, when talking about the infrastructure of that country, it is absolutely frayed. it is absolutely damaged. i know you're running pictures of the hospital, many hospitals and clinics across the country over the course of this war have been bombarded, destroyed, clinics are we do not, doctors without equipment. a shortage of nurses and staff. and of course on streets you're locking at rescue workers being done oftentimes by volunteers, those white helmets, we had that video earlier to show you as well. and the response across the country, across the northeast of syria will not be even, rosemary, you have to remember there's parts of country still rebel held, where the government has little access at all, it's entirely reliant on the rebel forces, families are entirely reliant on them for help and service. we're hearing in turkey, of course, already the earth moving equipment coming in, boulders,

crane, et cetera, that will not be the case in syria where much of the equipment has been destroyed over the course of the this war. you have to remember the international aid, help, it will be easy for the international community to provide resources for turkey, it will simply not be the same case in syria, we have the death toll over 230 people killed, hundreds more wounded, rosemary, as you heard going up by the hour for a country already traumatized by war, for young children heard bombs and wore planes going off to wake up to this earthquake is terrifying and in the aftermath the response, what resources, what help will the syriian government, authorities will able to give to these communities rosemary? >> it's a very important question, selma joining us live from london, many thanks. still to come, there's been another sighting of a suspected

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welcome back, a chinese foreign ministry spokesperson told reports in beijing a balloon spotted over latin america in recent days belongs to china and that it was being used for flight tests. the pentagon said friday it assessed the aircraft seen over cost at a rery ka was a chinese balloon. now the balloon has been spotted in a third latin america country as stephano reports. >> reporter: the location of a second air balloon a spokesperson from the pentagon said is another chinese

surveillance balloon remains unknown after authorities in costry ka and columbia confirms sighting last week, saturday, the columbian air force released a statement saying an object with characteristics similar left the columbia air space and did not represent a threat to national security. the object was cruising over the northern shore of columbia at approximately 30 miles per hour or 25 knots. also venezuela media reported sightings of a similar object over the weekend but venezuela authorities did not confirm whether it was the same object donald by columbia. they released a statement protesting the u.s. decision to shut down a chinese balloon over south carolina on saturday. it indicates it has received

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. breaking news we're following at this hour, a powerful 7.8 magnitude take a look has hit near the turkish syrian border killing hundreds and injuring thousands in both countries, the u.s. geological survey said the quake was centered in turkey's gaziantep province followed by powerful after shocks, olivia parsons said at least 284 people have been killed in his country and more than 2,000 injured. in syria, at least 237 deaths have been reported by state media with more than 600 injured. the syrian american medical society said their hospitals are overwhelmed with patients >> el salvador opened one of

largest prisons in latin america, one that will more than double the country's capacity to incarcerate criminals, el salvador's president touted the new mega prison as critical piece of his country's crackdown on gang violence but human rights groups are raising concern. cnn has the story. >> reporter: a massive police operation on national tv. this is how people in el salvador found out about a new massive maximum security prison intended to hold many as 40,000. the millennial president of the central american nation of 6 million was featured prominently in the video touring the new facility he calls the terrorism containment center. he describes as a giant facility built in seven months that will be a fundamental piece to win the war against gangs in el

salvador. >> salvador public works ministry rodriguez said the prison has in court yards, no recreation area, there aren't spaces for congall visits, according to officials they retained 62,000 suspected beginning members sense last year when the president declared a state of emergency to fight crime. >> we're going to intensify this war against the gangs, and if they thought the force of the state had been unleashed on these criminals, well now they are going to really see what it meanses to unleash the force of the state on these criminals. >> i think this facility, which will probably be one of the biggest recent in the western hemisphere is a symbol of the madness of the president's security policy >> in statement last week he said the iron fist policies resulted in mass due process violations, severe prison

overcrowding and deaths. >> we have documented in the ground that some of those people have nothing to do with gangs. are innocent salvadorians, working possibly, children, who have been arrested and now face legal proceedings to prove they have nothing to do with the criminal organization >> among those who believe the policies are doing more harm than good are parents of five children who live near the capitol, one was detained last april and second in december and accused of gang crimes. >> they're practically taking my life, their mother says, my children are not criminals, they are hard working good people. the wildly popular denies accusations of human rights abuses and due process violations crimes like extortion proves his policies are working

but the family wonders if he tries to rush his way out of el salvador is creating new innocent victims. cnn atlanta. >> thanks for your company, i'm rosemary church, cnn newsroom continues with max foster an d

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