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very difficult test for us. we need help. we need international community to do something to help us, to support us. this is a disaster area. we need help from everyone to save our people. >> remember him. there are many people like him searching for loved ones and others. good morning, everyone. there's a desperate plea for help after a catastrophic earthquake killed more than 1500 people in turkey and syria. keep an eye on him there are many like him. we're going to speak to that rescuer, one of syria's white helmets as he searches for survivors. >> emergency crews are x scrambling in ohio trying to keep a toxic train wreck from exploding. >> and the u.s. shot down a
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chinese balloon. there is crisis and blowback that president biden is now facing. all as he's preparing to give the second state of the union address tomorrow night. also this -- southwest. fedex is on the go. >> close call there. another near disaster at a u.s. airport. what we're learning about that very close call between a southwest flight and a fedex plane. we're going to begin this morning in turkey and syria. more than 1500 people are now reported dead after a massive and catastrophic earthquake flattened buildings and homes while people were asleep. the death toll just keeps rising. as rescue teams search for survivors and pull bodies out of giant piles of concrete, the situation particularly dire in northwest syria. it is an area that is already been ravaged by the country's horrific civil war. this is video of rescuers pulling a toddler out of the rubble. little girl's clothes stained
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with blood. take a look at this video. it's from turkey. of it's moments ago. a major and powerful after shock. if you look at the water along the side of the road, you can see it is thrashing back and forth. we are tracking the very latest developments from istanbul. what do you know at this hour? >> absolutely. devastating major 7.8 earthquake that struck about 11 hours ago. at the epicenter is a province in southern turkey. the impact, the effect this has had it stretches across at least ten provinces in southern turkey. they get into rebel held areas into syria as well as regime controlled areas. the we've been getting information coming in from officials that this death toll
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is continuing to rise in both countries. as you mentioned, more than 1500 people so far the turkish president saying more than 900 so far confirmed killed in turkey. but the concern is they don't know how many people remain under the rubble. we're talking about this vast, vast area of devastation, an area where you have so many buildings, thousands of buildings according to the turkish presidents that are destroyed. so the fear here in a country that has seen so many devastating earthquakes over the years, some that have claimed thousands of lives that this could be another one. the turkish president describing this as the biggest disaster in more than 100 years, don. >> thank you. we appreciate yourt reporting. joining us from the earthquake's epicenter is a middle east director for the syrian-medical society which is
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a relief organization they work on the front lines of crisis just like this. doctor, thank you. good morning to you. i know when you and your family started to feel everything shaking around you, my first question is are they all okay? can you describe what it is like around you? >> yeah. thank you so much. yes, they are all okay. they are all in my car here with me. they're all okay. and thank god that everyone is safe. >> he is sitting in your car. is that the safest place for you to be at this moment? sitting in a car? unfortunately. >> yes. yes. we cannot use the buildings, anymore for maybe hours or until tomorrow. i don't know. because we are continuing to experience the after shocks. so the last one was 7:26.
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it's very, very strong. so we cannot go back to buildings and apartments. >> is that because of the makeup of the buildings? i was reading that a lot of the buildings are made of brick, bri brittle concrete. is that your major concern here? >> i don't know. frankly speaking, you cannot see this damage right now. but next to my building about 200 to 300 meters, there is a collapsed building. and there are many buildings collapsed in that area. so i can not tell you why. it's not real to me. there is destruction in the city. but some buildings are collapsed already. >> doctor, you're from originally from damascus. so could you speak to after ten
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years of civil war has ravaged syria, what are the challenges, the scale of the challenge to find any possible survivors and also to try to rebuild after this? considering the war. >> this situation before the aptitude was dire. especially in the areas of this area in northwest syria. so i'm projected this came to make things very, very challenging to us as an organization to be able to respond to the needs there. as you know, the situation before that we were very -- it was very challenging situation
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because of the circumstances. and the evolution of the currency value to everything against that civilians there. the effort came right now to maybe make the final pick to those communities. i don't know. i cannot explain to you right now what the situation -- we have four of our hospitals damaged here, severely, by the earthquake. they evacuated two of them because of the altitude. and the number of collapsed buildings is not in syria alone. so i don't know. i don't know what to say to you. >> doctor, can i ask you something quickly. i'm fascinated by your personal
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situation. how many people are in the car with you there? >> we are six. >> six in one car. and who is holding the camera? >> do you want to say hello to my kids? yeah. >> are you able to open the window to see where you are and what it's like behind you? >> yes. yes. i can. but because it's very rainy circumstances and rainy conditions here in this area, the people collecting themselve collection centers and are prepared by the embassy. this is the safest area i can see. >> you guys be safe.
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thank you for showing us. and we hope that, you know, they can -- the rescuers can get to the folks very soon. doctor, we really appreciate you joining us. thank you for introducing us to your family as well. stay safe. as we continue to monitor what is happening in turkey and syria, we're also monitoring the fallout from the chinese spy balloon that is now looming over president biden's highly anticipat anticipated state of the union address. they're criticizing the president and administration for waiting until saturday afternoon to bring down the balloon. >> presidents have ability to go before camera, go before the nation and basically explain these things early on. and his failure to do so, i don't understand that. i don't understand why he wouldn't do that. and that is the beginning of dereliction of duty. >> what began as a spy balloon has become a trial balloon, testing president biden's strength and resolve.
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unfortunately, the president failed that test. >> i think this entire episode telegraphed weakness to xi and the chinese government. >> now house republicans are considering passing a resolution that would condemn the biden administration for the way they handled the balloon. it is symbolic. it would set the stage for the president's address. we heard criticism from it republicans. what is the explanation from the white house about the timing? why saturday afternoon was when they decided to finally bring down the balloon? >> well, what we learned, kaitlan, is when president biden first learned about the suspected spy balloon, his initial reaction was to say well, shoot it down. but now we know that his military advisors told him that wouldn't be a good idea. essentially because the debris that would result from shooting that balloon down over u.s. land could really hurt people on the ground. remember, the payload, the structure really below that balloon was the size of three
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buses. and so they essentially vized h -- advised them, we need to do this at a safe moment over a body of water. officials are saying they did this at the safest and earliest possible moment and now focused on the recovery efforts and that what president biden himself is specifically focused on is trying to recover as much of the structure as possible so they can learn as much as possible about the chinese surveillance efforts. but as you just played there, republican officials over the weekend very much criticizing the president for not acting with enough speed or transparency. as you said, this looms over his state of the union speech on tuesday. you can imagine if there were going to be any explicit mentions of china this is going to alter that. >> yeah. and so that's the big question here in the bigger picture of this. you know, they had to cancel secretary blinken's expected t trip too china this week. the broader question, regardless of the criticism of what they should have done is how it affects u.s. relations with
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china. they were already not great. so what are officials saying about that? >> yeah, you know, as you just said, u.s. chinese relations were incredibly froaught to begn with. there was an attempt at a reset in recent months starting with that bilateral immediating between president biden and president xi ping of china. but now things are really looking not good again. there is the diplomatic fallout that we're seeing clearly playing out beginning with blinken as you mentioned delaying that trip to beijing. and we just don't know exactly how this is going to play out because the u.s. is saying this is definite i had a surveillance balloon. the chinese are denying it and saying this was overreaction on the part of washington. >> yeah. going to be hard for them to deny that. they're recovering it. thank you for that report. so let's hear what chinese officials are saying for the first time that a secret balloon spotted over latin america this weekend belongs to china and,
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quote, used for flight tests, closed quote. a foreign ministry says that balloon seriously deviated from the plan due to weather. you heard what they said at the white house. the position of the biden administration. what is the position of chinese officials this morning? >> poppy, they're still sticking to the claim it was a weather balloon. for the first time, they're acknowledging another balloon in addition to the one spotted over the u.s. when i asked the ministry of foreign affairs spokesperson about that balloon spotted over latic america, she said it came from china. and as for how it got there, the explanation was very similar to beijing's claim of how the other balloon entered the u.s. the balloon over latin america is civilian and due to the weather and limited ability to control the air shift, it floated into the area by mistake. take a listen to this other exchange i had. >> the u.s. is confident though that what they shot down is in fact a spy balloon disclosing that it contains surveillance
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equipment not normally associated with civilian research like collection pod equipment and solar panels. the balloon was flying over sensitive areas. can you help us understand how this could be a weather balloon? >> translator: the airstrip is also civilian in nature. we made it clear this was an unexpected instance. but the u.s. side is deliberately hyping it up and attacking by force which is unacceptable and irresponsible. >> poppy, state media is using that line and blaming domestic politics for kaes escalating th. if it was deliberate, they're embarrassing for beijing. xi is on a charm offensive, trying to reset relations with countries badly damaged during the pandemic. and now this sets them back diplomatically making it harder for them to convince they can play by international rules. >> thank you for that reporting from beijing.
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joining us is to join us is jim heinz of connecticut. good morning, thank you for coming in. i appreciate it. >> good morning, don. >> let's get to it. have you gotten any updates about what they have found in this debris? >> no. i'm not sure anybody has we have been out of d.c. for the weekend. we haven't fwbeen in a positiono get into a skiff to get a briefing. >> do you think anything they find is useful intelligence? >> absolutely. there's no question about that. the that is an element lost in this conversation. being able to capture hopefully un undamaged, who knows, a cutting edge surveillance technology is huge intelligence win. >> so you will get a briefing? you haven't gotten a briefing on this? >> that's correct. >> i understand you're going to receive a briefing tomorrow as a member of the so-called gang of eight. what do you hope to hear? >> you know, people -- you're hearing a lot of breathless criticism of the decision making process that the president has. a lot of that is partisan, right? the very same senators that
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haven't been briefed that are all over joe biden right now. they had joe biden shot this thing down against the advice of the military advisors, they krit sues him for that. what we're going to learn is what the tiktok was. much what was the decision made. we may not be able to talk about a lot of value in observing an asset like this. what did we learn by watching this thing over a period of time? when were the decisions taken? most interestingly, what are we going to learn about the equipment? who made the semiconductors that are on this thing? what are the capabilities? we'll learn a lot. >> speaking of, when you said in the first part of the answer, your colleague on the house intelligence committee mike turner of ohio was very critical of the fact that the balloon was allowed to enter usair -- u.s. airspace in the first place. listen to. this. >> this should have never been allowed to enter the united states and it never slu hould h been allowed to complete the mission f you ask someone tow draw an x where all of the nuclear weapons infrastructure and sites, are you would put them all along this path. clearly this was an attempt by
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china to gather information to defeat our command and control of our sensitive missile defense and nuclear weapons sites and that certainly is an urgency this administration doesn't recognize. >> do you agree with his assess snent do you think the pentagon and white house should have acted faster? >> you know, mike ar ticticulat one point of view. he doesn't know what the decision making process was like i don't. there is enormous value in obse observing up close and personal an asset like this, capabilities, maneuver, emanating, collecting? we need to see whether the decision was deliberate or whether it was careless. i'm going to withhold judgement until we get that briefing. >> did you not want them to shoot it down. >> when i learned when america learned this was not a weapons platform that presented no threat to the american people, as somebody who is focused on intelligence, i'm -- i would like to get this thing, you know, a lot lets shoot it down over land. i would much rather have this
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thing hole whole than scraping charred remains off a field in nebraska. there is value in having this thing brought down over water where we can salvage in a more complete fashion. i think, again, i think bringing it down over water where we have naval capabilities to get this thing is a lot better than what it would have looked like had it been shot down and, you know, fall noon a granite mountain top. >> so listen, this is not the first time this happened. and you had insinuated the u.s. uses similar technology in other parts of the world. do you fear retaliation from china? >> i don't fear retaliation by china. they're at they're the aggressor. they flew a military asset over our sovereign territory. by the way, there is going to be retaliation against whoever
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ef engineered this operation inside beijing. but, no. and, you know, to be very clear here, there is a lot of people saying this is new and unprecedented. its not. we've seen the balloons elsewhere. it should come as no surprise to anybody that the chinese are spending billions and billions of dollars trying to get our secrets. this is what they do. this is a particularly clumsy attempt to do so. >> then all the hyper ventilation, is this hip of course -- hypocrisy on our part? >> we have not flown any balloons over chinese airspace. that is a very aggressive and stupid act. if they're angry we shot this down, sorry guys, don't fly your military assets over our country. we should withhold judgement until we know what it was doing and the decision making process. >> do you think tony blinken postponing the trip is right? >> yes. he did the right thing.
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>> what are you expecting from the president tomorrow? >> i'm hoping from the president, i'm hoping that a two year retrospective. this president and the democratic congress that capped the price of lins lyn for americans at $35, for the first time ever, not ever, but a generation did a major infrastructure investment that in a bipartisan way got a semiconductor deal done so we don't have to worry about getting our semiconductors for china. the list of accomplishmentes in last two years is really dramatic. i hope he focuses on the kitchen table issues after a week of talking about balloons. >> it is interesting. everybody counted joe biden out even when he was run and now president biden. why he is trying work with republicans? he's not going to get anything accomplished. he defied expectations. yet, there is new polling out in "washington post" and abc news that among voters who leaned democratic only 31% would like to see president biden run in 2024. 58% would like to see other in the top of ticket. what do you say? >> i say that if the american people look at what he did and
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his first two years and when the democrats had the house and the senate again i could spend ten minutes talking about it, but lower drug prices, investment infrastructure, the first in generation gun safety bill, a lot done on a bipartisan basis. what are the republicans offering? they're taking omar off committees. i want the american people to see the contrast between a president, love him or hate him, who is delivering for the american people and the extremism that we're seeing in the republican party. >> his polling is only a snapshot in time. do you see him on the ticket? >> you know, that's obviously a deeply personal decision for him and his family. i don't -- i do intelligence. i don't have information on that. >> you would like him to run? >> i think he's got a heck of a record to run on. and at the end we'll see. the contrast with republicans and the next two years, so i think that if he chooses to run he'll be a very strong candidate. >> thank you, congressman. poppy? it happened again, two planes nearly colliding at a u.s. airport. what we're learning as the feds launch an investigation.
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tln >> there was another near collision between two planes. a fedex plane was landing and southwest plane taking official over the weekend. the ntsb is investigating the cause of this near miss. that is the same agency as you know that is also still investigating a similar close call at new york's jfk airport back in january between the delta and american plane that we all saw. we're live in washington tracking all of this. pete, what happened here? >> kaitlan, minor incidents between two planes on the runway happen pretty often. but very rarely between two commercial airliners and rarely twice in three weeks time. what is immediately clear here is that one of these planes almost landed on top of the
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other. a near miss that could have very clearly been a disaster. >> reporter: it is the latest case of a near collision on the runway. this time an austin international airport. the federal aviation administration says on saturday a fedex boeing 767 was coming in to land as a southwest airlines 737 was cleared to take off ahead of him. air traffic control recordings detail apparent concern from the tower as the southwest flight remaun reremained on the runway. >> confirm you're on the road? >> rolling now. >> reporter: preliminary flight radar shows the two planes remaining on a collision course. the faa says the crew of the fedex flight abort ed its landig and started to climb, averting disaster. >> fedex is on the go. >> the faa and the ntsb will interview the flight crews.
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they'll interview the tower personnel. they review the tapes. and they'll find out where the mistakes were made. >> the national transportation safety board says it is investigating this as a possible runway incursion. it is the same type of incident that happened on the runway last month at jfk. in that case, the pilots of a delta flight were told to abort their takeoff as an american airlines flight taxied across the runway in front of him. [ beep ] >> cancel takeoff plans! cancel takeoff plans! >> rejecting. >> this underscores one, that the most dangerous part, the most perilous part of the trip is often when the plane is taxiing on the runways. these runways are crowded. >> there is one big difference here between these two incidents. that jfk incident, the weather was clear n this austin incident, this latest incident, there was thick fog visibility at the time reported at an
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eighth of a mile. experts say that will be a big factor in this swinvestigation. kaitlan. >> it is remarkable to see hoy close that was. we were talking about the secrsecond incident. thank you so much. and right now, officials in ohio are actively working to prevent an explosion from a train derailment that they warned could potentially shoot deadly shrapnel up to a mile away. >> also after a promising january jobs report and the latest interest rate hike, there are big questions whether or not the united states can bring down inflation without triggering a recession. we're going to ask the bank of america ceo what he thinks. he's here live on set next. ♪ ♪are you ready for me♪ ♪are you ready♪ ♪are you readyy♪ - custom ink helps us motivate our students with custom gear. we love how custom ink takes care of everything we need, so we can focus on the kids.
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president biden set to deliver his state of the union address tomorrow night in major focus, of course, will be the u.s. economy. the jobs report on friday shocked about everyone. more than half a million jobs added in the u.s. last month. unemployment rate 3.4%, the lowest we've seen since 1969. the fed last week once again hiking interest rates but less
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aggressi aggressive reflecting cooling inflation. can the u.s. pull off a soft landing and bring down inflation. we have unique insight into where we're going. good morning. thank you for being here. let's start with the state of the union address. the president is going to tout the economy, jobs report. a big issue is the debt ceiling. what you would like to hear from the president? >> i think on a debt ceiling, there is a political process to go in to discuss the level of debt and things like that. i think the market loves stability. the market loves stability. we hope that some point they resolve the technical issues. they'll have a political discussion and i'm sure there will be a lot of discussion around the state of the union tomorrow night. >> i remember when you and a bunch of other bankers sent a letter in 2011 to congress warning of how bad a default would be. and that was then. look where we are now politically. are you preparing bank of america for a real possibility of a default?
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>> we have to be prepared for that. not only in this country but in other countries around the world. you just hope it doesn't happen. hope is not a strategy. you prepare for it. you get ready to make sure you have the liquidity, setup. we have a lot of consumers that get paid by the government. that has to be set up for them and waivers on payments and fees. that's what we do. we do that in a natural disaster. i think hopefully you heard both side say that the idea is not to shut down the government. the whied iidea is to have a din about how high the debt should be. we had to overcome the pandemic and the drag on the economy. administrations from both sides of the euaisle did. that we have to figure out how that works in the future. we have to get past this issues of just getting through the technical structure. >> sounds like you are instilling some contingency plans. >> everybody has to. >> do you think it's worth it to
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have a debt ceiling anymore? this way with congress in charge? >> there is a lot of discussion about that. one side says if you prove the budget and not aprofiapprove th spending, it is a political process. with he have to make sure we live within our means in our country. >> do you think it's worth it? do you believe? janet yellen is saying maybe this shouldn't be in congress' hands. >> i think congress has the purse strings. that's whatever article it s i would be careful about trying to restructure the u.s. constitution. it's been around for 250 years almost. i think we should leave it alone and make sure it operates correctly. >> fair enough. jobs report. wow. on friday. more than half a million jobs created. so far beyond what wall street had been expecting. why did that happen when we are seeing slowing in the economy and what does it mean for the fed and rates? >> this is one of the key issues. the unemployment rate has stayed very low. extremely low. and the labor market stays tight. that is a challenge for the fed.
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if you think about prices and stability of prices, one of the questions is wage growth. and it's tipping over and flattening out which from an inflation perspective is good. in other words, they start to see the first signs of that. but the reality is unemployment is low because people are spending money. and the u.s. consumer continues to spend money. so the month of january '23 versus january of '22, our consumers spent 4%, 5% more than they spent last year. >> okay. >> which is consistent with the 2% growing economy which is consistent with a low inflation economy. last year in the first quarter of '22 versus '20 this is 14%. it slowed down more consistent with a normal economy. rates have been risen and people are wondering about unemployment. but that is strongest jobs numbers indicator of a good u.s. economy. and the fed raised rates and has slowed it down but not enough to choke it off. >> what is the disconnect? we saw what happened to stocks on friday. a little ahead of the open here. is this wall street seeing what the fed may have to do with
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this -- they need the jobs market to temper and just isn't. >> yeah. i think that's the question. how long will the rates have to stay up? >> yeah. the. >> and then what is the drag on, you know, corporate profits and interest rate costs for corporations and companies and mid size companies and small companies. that's the real question. the market is trying to discount that every day, trying to figure that out. so our strategist has the market sort of flattish for the year. largely because getting the earnings back in line in terms of earnings growth f you go to the mainstream economy, people working, getting paid more, spending more, they have capacity to borrow, debt is in good shape, and while there is attribute that's don't follow across society, we look at the 30 million consumers, we continue to see good health there. >> you've been more optimistic for months now than a lot of your wall street counterparts. some are now in your camp. i thought it was interesting last night on 60 minutes the imf chief gave us -- told lesley stahl that the outlook now is that the u.s. will, quote,
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narrowly avoid falling into recession. do you agree? >> we've had consistently since for good while since the fed started raising rates after the spike in inflation, it was clear in the summer of '21 and fall of '21 that they went after in early '22 we had a mild recession predicted in the future about a year away. the problem is that just keeps moving out. the last quarter of last year to the first quarter -- first part of this year and middle of this year, there's always been a plus or minus 1% on a given quarter basis. what that really means is it's bumping along at a flat economy. and so that is completely different than the 30% down draft we had in the quarter after the pandemic or the 5% or 6% gdp down grdraft we had in other recessions. that is a soft landing. that is a mild recession. that is what others are talking about. >> no, you're not saying no recession though yet? >> i don't think there is a lot of difference between minus 1%
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and plus or minus 0. >> just a lot of headlines. >> a the lot of headlines. we'll find oit in two years. we know we made it through the most unusual crisis added to other crisises and a spike anyoneand inflation. that is the power of the u.s. economy. >> one benefit to consumers of higher interest rates, one of the few, is higher savings rates. but if we can pull this up, we brought up this chart on frichlt i want to get your take on it. we're not. like there is the fed funds rate, the line going up. and there is the savings rate. why -- just feels like main street is losing out again. >> the money goes into balance sheet structure. there has been record upflows, you know, record for the near term flows and people move their money into place that's it can earn higher rates. the bank balance sheets have lots of transaction accounts. they're going to be zero no matter what the rate is. that's because the nature of a checking account is you get, you
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know, 18,000 atms or 4,000 branches, 24 hour calls. this wonderful online experience. that's what you do in your checking be account. so there is a little bit of the savings rates, money people have for savings and investing are going up. checking rates don't. and then, frankly, people move the money into off balance sheet places. >> it's not going up the same way. let me end on china with you. last week the imf, again, upgraded their global outlook largely because of china reopening after zero covid. but now with the whole balloon incident, the u.s. general warning a few weeks ago about potential war with the u.s. and china within a matter of two years, i wonder what your level of concern is right now, brian, as you this i about u.s.-china relations and the impact on the world economy. >> china is a wholly different interconnectivity of than russia. all the banking systems enforce them. but it was a smaller, more internal economy.
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the chinese economy is hugely into supply chain obviously of all types of things from furniture to bikes to chips. and you can't -- coupling is a long, long process. but that tension you hope solves. frankly, it will be a much bigger hit to the world if something really went wrong. i think that's what pushes people back in the room to make sure something doesn't go wrong. but it's been interesting over the last few years watching this sort of shadow boxing going on between the two countries. from a pure economic perspective, the best thing is to have free trade and goods move and people being able to buy tvs at low rates. but the reality is as you have two countries that are, you know, competing to be the world's dominant power. en that wiland that will be interesting. >> your level of concern, you've been ceo for a really long time. is it the highest it's ever
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been? >> it has to be. again, you prepare for that and plan for all. that you hope that the natural tendency, co-dependence pushes people back in a room. >> brian moynihan, thank you. we appreciate it very much. >> great interview there. thank you to brie ab for joining us. colorado state is now apologizing for its students after some of them started a russia chant at a basketball game aimed at ukrainian player what was on the opposing team. >> that was awful. and missing animals in holes and enclosures, a series of suspicious incidents has dallas zoo on high alert. >> a lot of us in animal care at the zoo have gone through some really dark places in our minds in the last month. i can only imagine how scary that is for a person in their space who is trying to aggressively grab them. power e*trade's easy-to-use tools like
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morning. good morning. this is such an odd case involving so many different animals. what is going on here? >> well, you know, the animal care takers here at the dallas zoo have been through an excruciating month as these incidents have garnered worldwide headlines, zoo keepers say that it's been a profoundly disturbing gut punch and even though one person has been arrested, the mystery of why this is happening still looms over the dallas zoo. >> reporter: the high-flying gibbons apes are oblivious to the fact that their little corner of the dallas zoo is a crime scene that's garnered worldwide attention. for the humans at the zoo, it's been a nearly month-long nightmare. >> they broke into the building. >> reporter: harris is the dallas zoo's executive president of animal welfare. he shows us where the break-ins,
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escapes, possible murder and abductions occurred. it started here in this enclosure that's home to four langer monkeys. >> we noticed that some of the climbing infrastructure inside the habitat was broken and had literally collapsed, which made us think an animal larger than a langer had been in here. >> none of the animals have escaped. >> a lot of us have gone to some really dark places in our minds. >> you can almost picture anyone who was in there chasing these guys down. it must have been really scary. >> i can only imagine how scary it must have been for them to have a person in their space trying to aggressively grab them. >> a few habitats over, a female leopard walked right out. the s.w.a.t. team rolled out here this morning. that's got to be terrifying. >> s.w.a.t. team heard the word "leopard" and thought leopard leopard. >> high-tech drones were used to search for the 25-pound cat to no avail. that afternoon, two zoo
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employees, standing about 30 yards away from nova's habitat found her. >> one of them said to the other one, why is that squirrel so pissed off, and there's a squirrel in the tree barking and down here in one of these cab cabinets, the leopard was curled down there in the cabinet. >> down here? >> there's the curcurator. >> a chase ensued. >> she's safe and sound now. >> she's safe and sound now. >> we thought at first, maybe an isolated incident. somebody tried something and failed. >> reporter: it was just the beginning. a lapit-faced vulture named pin was found dead. dallas police say the rare bird had been wounded and then last week, two rare emperor tamarin monkeys were taken from the zoo. >> they made a huge cut in this wall of mesh right here in order to get into the habitat. >> reporter: the one-pound monkeys were found the next day in this abandoned house, about 15 miles away.
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zoo officials say the monkeys were unharmed. that last incident led police to arrest 24-year-old davian irvine. he's been charged with six counts of animal cruelty and two counts of burglary to a building. but investigators say he is not currently charged in connection to the death of the vulture. >> my name is joe exotic and this i name is sarge. >> reporter: wildlife experts say the fascination with exotic animals is fueled by shows like "tiger king," and social media influencers creating an underworld world of exotic animals as pets. >> it's a massive problem. globally, the illegal pet trade is again driving many animals towards extinction. and we think of it oftentimes as a kind of other-world problem. this is an opportunity to let people know that, you know, animals need to be left alone in their homes. >> reporter: i'm going to sound so old when i say this, but it doesn't help that social media influencers are showing kids that it's cool to have this
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thing in my house. >> you think that that might be one of the motivations here? that kind of influence? >> i do. i do. >> reporter: and don, that suspect, davian irvine still remains in the dallas county jail, being held on $25,000 bond. meanwhile, the dallas zoo has been adding more cameras. before all of this happened, they've had more than 100 cameras around the property. they say that they've been adding more and more as the days have gone by. >> it's not cool unless you're a professional to have one of those. thank you very much, ed lavendera, appreciate that. also this morning, colorado state university now apologizing after students started a chant against a ukrainian basketball player on utah state's team saturday night. >> so 40-9, ten seconds remaining here. as shulga goes to the free-throw line. >> you can hear that refrain in the background. spectators chanting, "russia" at
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max shulga. he's from kyiv, the ukrainian target who has been the target of russia's violent assault over the last year. colorado state is now apologizing, saying in a statement, quote, every participant, student, and fan should feel welcomed in our venues and for something like this to have occurred is something unacceptable at colorado state. utah state said the chants were inappropriate and unacceptable, but said they do appreciate the school's administration for not condoning the behavior. shulga later put out his own statement accepting the apologies, writing, this has been an extremely difficult and challenging year with my family and loved one so far as away and living in constant danger. as for the chants last night, while extremely upsetting in the moment, i also know how emotions can run high during competition and people can do and say things that they don't mean. i hope you will all join me in praying for peace in ukraine. just a classy response on his part. >> very classy response. >> it is.
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just saying things you don't mean, but how do you get there? how do you get to the chanting "ukraine"? >> chanting "russia." >> incredibly thoughtthoughtles. we are continuing to follow this tragic breaking news overseas. the death toll continuing to rise after a powerful 7.8 earthquake rocked turkey and parts of syria. now more than 1,300 people are confirmed dead. we'll speak to a rescuer who is live at the scene, next. hi, susan. honey. yeah. i respect that. but that cough looks pretty bad. try this robitussin honey.
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