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towards his groin area. myers said that he she swatted hand away and promptly left the office. and about five days later that myers said he was called back to the office where he was questioned about his resume and his former work as a reporter. and then a few days after that, his job offer was officially's kr rescinded. santos weighed in a bit ago. >> you can talk to me about derrick myers and his alleg allegations? >> it is comical. m . >> do you deny it? >> of course i deny it. let me make it clear. let me make it clear. if there was remote any part of that that was true, he should have led with that and not biggebig begged for a job that we decided to pull from him for being accused of what he did to us.
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>> now, santos was completely denying the allegations. he also was making a reference to the fact that this prospective staffer who is a former reporter made some audiotapes, recorded conversations with santos and then leaked them. but this is just the latest serious allegation in a long string of allegations against the embattled congressman. >> a long string that keeps on getting longer. melanie, thank you. it is the top of the hour. just a short time ago the pentagon defended the president's choice to delay shooting town a suspected spy balloon from china. a fight jet brought it down saturday. after the balloon crossed the continental united states, multiple republicans have criticized it calling it a weak response. but commander at norad says the
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intelligence gathered will be of value. >> there was a potential opportunity for us to collect intel where we had gaps on prior balloons. this gave us the opportunity to assess what they were actually doing, what kind of capabilities existed on the balloon, what kind of transmission capabilities existed. and i think you will see in the future that that time frame was well worth its value to collect. over. >> a senior biden official says the first pieces of the balloon have already reached quantico. they are using sonar in the debris field to locat pieces of the balloon which was 200 feet high and had a payload of more than a ton. natasha bertran and mark stewart are covering this for us. what more are we learning about the balloon itself and the ones that came before it?
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>> reporter: yeah, the commander of norad did speak to reporters and he was giving an update on the state of the recovery operation here. and he told reporters that the debris field right now from this balloon is expected to be about one square mile. so not nearly as much as had been projected previously which was as much as seven miles. but at the same time it will take more time of course to analyze and recover all of the debris. but he did also touch upon some fwa gaps in the u.s. ability to track balloons that have come before this one. as we have since learned, there were at least three other ones that transited the continental united states during the trump administration and those actually were not detected. take a listen to what he had to say. >> as a norad commander, it is my responsibility to detect threats to north america. i will tell you that we did not detect those threats.
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and that is a domain awareness gap that we have to figure out. >> so pretty remarkable admission there that the u.s. military had awareness gaps that allowed these chinese balloons to transit the united states basically completely un dedetec. and only after the intelligence community was able to do its own review after the fact were the patterns of the balloons able to be detected. so moving forward the military will have to do work to figure out how these balloons can be detected in realtime in the future because not only is it just important in terms of preventing the balloons being able to gather intelligence, but also because it allows the u.s. to clebt i collect intelligencee balloons and turn the table on the chinese, and that was another point that because of the delay in shooting down the u about aen look, the u.s. was able to gather important day take. >> and mark, as the days have gone by, the response from china
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has become more and more abrasive. early on they were almost apologetic. that is not the case right now. what are they saying? >> reporter: so to understand china's response, let's just look at the current landscape. we have two balloons, one was discovered flying over latin america over colombia, costa rica. and then we have another balloon that was flying over north america, over the united states. this both of these cases, a very similar explanation based off of whether or control issues. china is saying that there really were no nefarious intents here. however, today when pressed by reporters at a news conference in beijing, china's foreign ministry spokeswoman basically said that the u.s. was trying to hype things up and again was insisting that these were due to factors out of their control. so that is the chinese response.
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met with skepticism from the united states. and there are so many other lingering questions. are there other balloons and what will this do to the diplomatic ties and relationships with the united states? it was just days ago that we were reporting on upcoming visit by secretary of state antony blinken to establish diplomatic ties. so if something like this were to occur perhaps more con prison trags or rechetoric could be avoided. but again china is saying most of this is out of our control. >> but to your hypothetical question are there more balloons, there does appear to be another balloon over latin america as we speak and china did acknowledge that that was theirs. thank you. retired army major and a security analyst and former cia operative are joining me. welcome to you both before major, the payload was size of approximately three buses.
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how much information do you think the pentagon will be able to glean overall in terms of the debris that they are finding right now and sending to quantico? >> well, a lot of it just depends on what survived on impact. they seemed to say that they knew what was going on in the balloon, it was tracking whatever it was tracking. so i'd like to think that that is a true statement, that they wanted to track it. i'm surprised we're still talking about it frankly. i think that this is really an opportunity for us and the american people that have kind of an awakening as to what is going on with china, the fwakt that you can look up in the sky collecting intelligence and maybe people will see that it will become a great menace. we'll see what the pentagon gets out of it. they say they were monitoring it while it was in air and we'll find out more as they discover it. >> bob, we still don't know why china sent this balloon and the timing is suspect. obviously we have the president delivering the state of the union tomorrow. we had secretary of state antony
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blinken making the first trip by a cabinet official in the biden administration to china over the weekend. that was canceled. this comes at a time when both countries were trying to settle some sort of baseline in a relationship that was quickly going south. what do you make of the timing here? >> exactly. in co this couldn't have come at a worst time with blinken on his way to beijing. and my feeling is we don't know what is going on in beijing. the military could have sent this balloon. they obviously could have withheld covering that area if the balloon was under control like we believe it was. so you have to wonder if the military, chinese military, is responsible for this overflight and just how much control president xi has over the country, cwhich has always beena question. unfortunately american intelligence can't get inside the narrow circles of power in that country. >> and you are raising
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interesting points with that point. major, something that stood out to me was what we heard from the norad commander in terms of an answer to why the u.s. government was not able to detect in the biden administration those three balloons that had traveled across the united states at the time. we had the president didn't know this. the defense secretary he iesper didn't know this. and now they say there was an awareness gap. so it raises questions as to what other events we misses a well. >> 60,000 feet is where patriot missile stil missile are supposed to take out icbms. and if we don't see it, what are we missing. this a post-9/11 world, this is an accident that is no tolerance for. it should have been reported right through the chain of command. hopefully protocols change and it gets to the administration a lot quicker and give warning to
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something that is violating american borders like this. so i'm concerned by that answer because of what the chinese have capability of. they have a space station. they have the ability to already see a lot of the things that this balloon was looking for. to me it is a great power trial balloon so to speak, and it was sent on purpose to see what our response is. hopefully it leads to a great american awakening. i'm not sure the american public is aware of the threat that china poses to us. >> and these are relatively not that sophisticated and yet we're now hearing that just a few years ago our radar defenses or whatever it was was not able to detect three balloons that traveled across the united states. >> well, it does worry me about the chinese just how capable they are collecting intelligence in this country.
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there are all sorts of things we don't know what that thing was carrying, what kind of cameras, whether it had communications equipment or even spend sores. back in the 70s '70s, we used t drop sensors. are they doing the same thing.s. back in the '70s, we used to drop sensors. are they doing the same thing. this is why recovering the wreckage is so important. what scares me is when they get this stuff out of the ocean, it could turn out to be american technology which is a good chance it will be. >> and we'll continue to find out more as the debris is sent into analysis. bob and major, thank you so much for your time. the death toll is climbing after a massive earthquake rocked southern turkey and neighboring syria. more than 2800 people have died so far. president biden is expected to speak with turkey's president today. the 7.8 magnitude quake struck before dawn flattening highrises
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to rubble and causing more than 100 aftershocks sending people running for their lives. thousands of buildings are decimated with people still trapped. you can see the clouds of duts as this building just fell to the ground in a turkish city. flat like a pancake. in turkey and syria, there is growing fear even more people will die if rescuers cannot get to them in time. teams are digging through the rubble using their bare hands, hammers, anything that they can find. more than 2400 people thus far have been rescued including this syrian boy who was trapped under piles of debris. so hard to even watch him lifting his hand to rescuers. they were ultimately able to pull him to safety. rescuers also got this toddler to safety after her home was severely damaged. her mother and siblings sadly all perished. jomana karedsheh is in istanbul. you've been covering this for us
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all day and yet each time we see these images, they are so painful to see. how is the search and rescue operation going right now? >> reporter: the search and rescue efforts are ongoing. as you can expect, it is being slowed down obviously during the nighttime hours. and then you've got these harsh winter weather conditions that are impacting the southern part of the country, turkey, and also across the border in syria. snow, freezing temperatures tonight and also you've got so many roads that are blocked making it very difficult for search and rescue teams to try and get to the many, many different cities and towns and villages across this massive earthquake zone, we're talking about at least 10 turkish provinces with a population in the millions that has been
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impacted by this massive earthquake. and then of course you've also got the aftershocks that are continuing, more than 100, some so powerful as the initial 7.8 magnitude earthquake. and as you reported, more than 2800 people confirmed killed. more than 1700 of them here in turkey. and then more than 1,000 in syria in rebel held parts as well as government-controlled areas. but the fear, the real concern right now that the numbers are going to be rising significantly in the coming hours. here in turkey officials are saying that thousands of buildings have been destroyed by this earthquake that hit at 4:00 in the morning as people were indoors, families sleeping in their homes when this happened. so the fever is that thousands may still be trapped under the
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rubble and in syria, aid agencies saying that it is very difficult for them to try to get information out of the country, the infrastructure there decimated by more than a decade of that civil war. and now you've got an earthquake that has hit impacting communications and power outages, making it very difficult for them to get information and the extent of the damage in this hard hit part of syria. >> and we have a seismologist on earlier in the show said that the aftershocks continue for days now which would impact the search and rescue as well. jomana karedsheh, thank you for all the work you're doing. james elder, spokesperson for unicef is joining us for me. wish i could have you on in better circumstances. my first question, do you have a team on the ground there trying to help those stranded? >> yeah, we have teams in syria
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and in turkey. in syria as your correspondent just said, we have really hard areas to reach. we've had partners there for years, trusted partners. you have 4 million people in that part of syria who are displaced, who rely on humanitarian support. and through frigid freezing record-breaking winter cholera outbreak. and everyone is overstretched in that part of the world. and the world will be rallying as we see in turkey, but there is an enormous amount do because these people could not take another shot much less literally a shock like this. >> syria raises a whole other set of challenges given that there are so many displaced people there already, so many young children and elderly now need desperate assistance. what are the first steps that you are taking right now and
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your workers and colleagues there on the ground in terms of trying to provide help? >> we look at all the earthquakes unicef has had to support. haiti, nepal, it is about things like blankets and food and water, getting in and working out how badly devastated the water system has been because people can't survive without water for very long at all. of course the bitter irony there is that people have fled their homes often standing around in bitterly cold conditions really without access to safe water. so water is key. blankets, food. psychological support, we can never overlook that. people i've spoken to today in those parts hardest hit, people went to bed as your correspondent said and at 4:00 a.m. this terrifying idea of first you feel a few shakes and
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then maybe a car alarm and glass will break. and then it is this absolutely terrifying sense of concrete starting to crumble. and so what does a parent grab. you have half a send to decide. and of course there is nothing to grab but your child. and then they flee outside to nothing, to dust and to devastation, to screams from neighbors. so psychological support, comfort, warmth are absolutely fundamental as we hope some of the other images gets a we just saw from you, the little boy, the toddler, we need more of those images as we wait for those brave rescue workers and unicef builds in as many life-saving supplies as we possibly can from water systems to hygiene kits to try to take some of the pain away. >> and these rescue workers are heroic, really trying to save as many lives as possible and we know many countries have already offered to provide as much help as needed as well as the united states included obviously.
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james elder, thank you for all the work that you and your team are doing. we appreciate it. from the spy balloon to the economy and inflation, president biden has plenty to address in tomorrow's state of the union. how he is preparing, up next. and the disney/desantis dispute is in the hands of lawmakers. will the entertainment giant get to keep its special governing status. and effortlessly responds to both of you. our smart sleepers get 28 minutes more restful sleeeep per night. proven quality sleep. onlyly from sleep number. not that into saving, arare yo? -whoa, dude... -money. cuz... cuz you paid too much for those glasses. next time, go to america's best ere two pairs and a free, quality eyexam start at just $79.95. book an exam today at americasbest.com. people remember ads with a catchy song. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's a little number you'll never forget. ♪ customize and save. ♪
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we understand the bill has just been filed. what more are you burning about it? >> reporter: up until about an hour ago, we didn't have the detail stos as to how the stated move forward with stripping disney of the special district. it is 189 pages so we're still reading through it, but what we've learned so far, that it is clear that governor desantis will take control of who governs this. he will now appoint the board of supervisors who up until now have been positions that have been landowners that have close ties to disney. so while the special district will remain in place, will continue to pay for the services that it provides, we're talking about fire tents, police departments, even waste water management, governor desantis d by the senate. so remember, this has been a
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president biden spent the weekend preparing for tomorrow's state of the union speech. today he tweeted a photo of a binder that appears to be a draft of his speech with the caption getting ready. and in washington police are also getting ready for biden's annual address. they are ramping up security including a nonscaleable fence around the capitol grounds. jeremy diamond is joining us now. just the reality of the times with that fence being built, but white house staffers are also previewing the president's speech. what should we expect? >> reporter: yeah, president biden has been working on this speech for weeks now and it is clear speaking with white house officials that the u.s. economy is going to really be at the center of this speech. both the president trying to talk about the economic progress that has been made under his watch and tieing that progress directly to the policies of his
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administration over his first two years in office. but also looking forward at why he believes the implementation of those policies will carry the u.s. on the right track. that is also going to be a message of the clear contrasts that president biden will try to draw as he delivers it with the house republican majority in office and it also is coming as president biden is preparing for what we expect to be his likely re-election campaign. this is going to be a soft launch of sorts for that re-election campaign and it comes as the president is facing significant headwinds. new polling from abc news and "washington post" over the weekend shows that majority of americans still don't believe that president biden has accomplished much in office. and so that certainly raises the stakes for tonight's speech as he is expected to address what will be one of the largest audiences that gets to speak to all year to try to convince americans that he has in fact accomplished much and that the policies are leading to economic progress. there will of course be foreign policy in this speech as well.
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it is a moment for the president to lay down the marker of where he stands on major issues of global importance. and of course right now we have this new issue with the chinese balloon that has flown over the united states, the heavy criticism that president biden has faced. we expect him to talk about china policy, not clear yet whether he will address the balloon specifically. >> let's get some answers on that. with me now is keisha lance bottoms, a white house senior adviser for public engagement. thank you so much for joining us. so let's get straight to that question, will the president be addressing this chinese surveillance balloon in the context of u.s./china relations? >> i think what you will hear from the president will be a number of things that are of concern to the american people as jeremy mentioned. you will hear about the economy, you'll hear about the president's desire for us to work together in a bipartisan manner. and i don't know if he will specifically address that, but what he will talk about is just the work that has been done by
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this administration to restore our standing on the world stage. whether it is competing with china for manufacturing jobs, the safety of ukraine, the nato alliance. so you will hear a number of things addressed by the president including those issues of international concern. >> and in terms of international concerns, this surveillance balloon was significant enough to cancel his top diplomat from a planned trip to china over the weekend to meet with president xi. obviously relations are very heightened right now in terms of where things stand between the two countries. they were trying to find sort of balance and leveling spot to begin with. how big of a setback is this? terms of u.s./china relations? >> well, it is unfortunate the timing, but we know this is not the first time and will not likely be the last time that the chinese have sent surveillance balloons over the continental
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u.s. we know that it was also done under the previous administration. but the president again has emphasized even as a candidate and as president how important it is for the united states to be re-established on the world stage. and that is the reason he has leaned in so heavily on the importance of nato, that we be strong together. and certainly the timing of this is not ideal, but it is something that the president has taken into consideration in terms of his response. and also in listening to our national security advisers on how best to address this issue. >> let me move on to that new polling that we heard from jerry, the abc "washington post" poll, showing that 62% of americans think that the president has not accomplished much in his first two years in office, this despite historically low unemployment levels, gang busters jobs report last week and historic legislation that has been passed. so how do you explain this d
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disc disconnect? is this a messaging issue or a leadership issue? >> well, i've been on the ballot a time or two, and what i know is that polls are a snapshot in time. but when you think about where we as a country on the heels of one of the most challenging times in the world's history, dealing with the pandemic, and all that it entailed, it is not surprising to me that people are discouraged and they don't see the silver lining. so the president of course has to continue to lean in on the messaging. i think as you look at what will happen over the next two years, it will be all about implementation, these things that have been passed. we saw in january the insulin cap come into play and i believe that as people see more and feel more of the changes that have been made by this administration, you will likely see those poll numbers change. but you don't govern by poll numbers. you govern with your eye on the prize. and for this president, that has
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meant delivering for the american people and making sure that these policies are implemented so people can feel these policies every single day. >> something that this president, this administration, said that they would like to see pass in the next couple years is the george floyd policing ability. we know that the tyre nichols family will be attending the state of the union as guests of the president. they have been pushing for this legislation as well. it has stalled in a democratic controlled congress. what expectation if any can you have for it moving at all now that republicans have the majority? >> well, as you know, the numbers just didn't add up to get it passed in the senate the last go round. i attended the funeral of tyre nichols along with the president and other members of the administration. and you can't look at the pain of that family and not be moved to action. so the president met with leaders from the congressional black caucus just last week. and had a very in-depth lengthy
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conversation on what more can be done to get this over the finish line. so he is not going to stop trying. this will not be the first time that legislation has been put forth that people thought would go nowhere. with the leadership of congress and support of the president, we'll continue to lean in and try to do everything we can to make sure that what happened with tyre nichols does not happen again. you know the reality is that you can't legislate away criminal behavior, but you certainly can have legislation in place that makes people think twice before they engage in the way that they did with this innocent young man. >> keisha lance bottoms, we'll be watching tomorrow night. thank you. and be sure to join anderson cooper and jake tapper for live coverage of president biden's state of the union address, that starts tomorrow at 8:00 p.m. right here on cnn. well, she did it. beyonce now boasts the most
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>> new information should up everyone's sense of urgency and their sense of danger. you know, you listen to the description if you are in that red zone, there is no doubt and yellow zone, certainly severe long term injuries. >> let's get to gabe cohen with more. so when can we expect this controlled release? >> reporter: we have learned in the last couple minutes that it has been pushed back to 4:00 p.m. eastern. so we should see it in about 15 minutes or so. the crew is doing a final safety check trying to make sure all the pieces are in place according to one source on the ground there. now, the purpose of the controlled release is to clear those unstable chemicals from five different railcars that are at that derailment site and hopefully to prevent a catastrophic about motion. so the plan is to blow a small
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hole just a couple inches wide in each of those cars to drain the vinyl chloride, that very flammable chemical, into trenches that have been built below that with lined with flares to burn off that chemical before the cars can overheat from the fire that has been raging since friday. and potentially explode. this process, it could take around three hours or so. we still don't know exactly the amount of time. and right now there is still a very large evacuation area in place, up to two miles in one direction because officials there aren't just concerned about that flying shrapnel that could potentially travel a mile during an explosion, but also potentially the release of extremely toxic chemicals like hydrogen chloride if there were to be an explosion. >> clearly a very complex process about to unfold and we'll bring it to you when it does happen. fwab gabe cohen, thank you so much.
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today the ongoing double murder trial of alex murdaugh, the judge ruled to allow evidence of the former lawyer's alleged financial crimes in court. murdaugh faces nearly 100 separate charges related to his finances. meantime we also heard from the attorney representing the family of a 19-year-old girl who was killed in a 2019 boat
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drives that boat when it crashed. mark tinsley said alex tried to intimidate him to avoid paying a settlement in that case. cnn's randi kaye is following this story closely for us. so, randi, what more did we learn today? a big decision by the judge. >> reporter: absolutely. but we alshed from michelle smith, the caregiver for alex murdaugh's mother libby. and she was really the only person who saw alex murdaugh around the time of the murder. she said he came to his mother's home around 9:00 and 9:30 p.m. she said in court that he only stayed for 15 to 20 minutes, but shared the very strong conversation she had with alex murdaugh, she said she had with him the day after the murders. listen to what she told the jury. >> what was he telling you about, he was at the house the night of the murders. >> that he was there 30, 40 minutes. >> was he there 30, 40 minutes
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well, as if it was ever in doubt, it is now official that beyonce, indeed, runs the world. at least the entertainment world, that is. she made history at the grammys last night and broke the record for the artist with the most trophies ever won. she tops the list with 32 awards besting the likes of quincy jones and stevie wonder. >> we are witnessing history
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tonight. breaking the record for the most grammy wins of all time, stand and show your respect, it's "renaissance," beyonce. >> thank you so much. i'm trying not to be too emotional. and i'm trying to just receive this night. i want to thank god for protecting me. thank you, god. i'd like to thank the queer community for your love and for inventing this genre. god bless you, thank you so much to the grammys. >> proud his jay-z there cheering her on with her last night. beyonce took home four wins, but not the coveted album of the year, losing out to harry styles. cnn's lisa france is here with all of the excitement and the reaction, so, lisa, despite history being made last night, beyonce's fans are not all that happy about her losing out on
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album of the year. what is your take? >> absolutely they're not. my take is, what does beyonce have to do to win album of the year? it was 2017 all over again, where she lost out to adele's "25" and even adele took to the stage and said that beyonce was the artist of her life and she really felt like "lemonade" deserved to win back then. this year, it's hard for me to be critical, i have to say, of harry styles, being critical of him feels like kicking a puppy, and even know he had an amazing album, "renaissance" was flawless. members of the hive, which, of course, is her fans who are just so devoted to her, are so upset, because even though she made history, that album was such an incredible album and if "renaissance" can't pull off album of the year, will beyonce ever get that award? it's a huge award and lots of people feel like she deserves it. i feel like she deserves it.
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>> she has many more years ahead of her, i know her fans are disappointed. history being made last night, viola davis joining an exclusive list of egot winners, and lizzo dabbing record of the year following a spectacular performance. it was an incredible night. >> it really was. so much joy with both of them. of course, viola davis becomes only the third black woman to be an egot winner. she joins whoop pi goldberg and jennifer hudson. lizzo gave a wonderful speech. and she also beat beyonce and paid tribute to beyonce, saying when she was in fifth grade, she skipped school to go see beyonce. it's a wonderful night. >> a nice houston connection there, as well. lisa france, thank you, it was a magical evening. >> it was. thank you. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. thank you so much for watching.
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