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tonight, dangerously close. a fedex cargo flight coming within 100 feet of a southwest passenger flight. this was in austin, texas. air traffic control cleared both flights. one was arriving. one was departing. they were cleared to use the same runway. you can see on your screen the fedex cargo flight abandoning its landing to avoid the collision. the southwest flight was taking off. >> southwest abort! fedex is on the go. >> the ntsb says it wasn't air traffic control that intervened to avoid the crash, it was the crew of the fedex flight. it's pretty incredible. the chairman of the ntsb praising the fedex crew for saving over 100 lives. think about that tragic loss of life averted by the paying attention, courageous, quick
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thinking of a crew. thanks for joining us. i'll be back at 9:00 for a special edition of "outfront." "ac 360" starts now. good evening. we begin tonight with the search for survivors in turkey and northern syria after one of the strongest earthquakes on record struck the area at the worst time imaginable, early in the morning with most people at home . >> those are just two buildings, two of more than 5,600 that have collapsed in the quake, the
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aftershocks and the aftermath on the turkish side. already in turkey and syria, nearly 4,000 people are known to have died, according to turkish officials and syrian state media. the number has been climbing with each new update. nearly 19,000 more are said to be injured. a major international aid effort is gearing up, but the priority right now is search and rescue. take a look. this is video from cnn from a town close toward where the quake was centered. for the last several hours now, we've been watching crews there trying to make their way to a 14-year-old child trapped in the wreckage of a two-story building. they go as quickly as they can, but it is delicate and dangerous work. and the team stopped at one point to try to work out how to proceed. it's unclear what the teen's condition. we do know, however, this is hardly the only such scene across the area. there are many. cnn's jomana karadsheh joins us from istanbul. what is the latest, jomana? >> anderson, utter devastation across what is this massive earthquake zone that stretches
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across ten provinces in southern turkey and across the border into government-controlled parts of syria as well as the rebel-held northwest of the country. and we're talking about a part of syria where you find some of the country's most vulnerable women and children who have been displaced several times over the past more than a decade of civil war. these are people who are entirely reliant on international aid. and this is coming at a time where they have been facing very, very harsh winter. it couldn't have happened at a worst time for the population in northwestern syria as well as here in southern turkey as well. as you mentioned earlier, anderson, the death toll continuing to rise. the latest figures we have, more than 3800 people confirmed killed in both countries. and the fear right now is that casualty figures are going to rise significantly in the coming
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hours and days. flattened in seconds. moments later, two aftershocks. a turkish tv crew reporting live during the makings of an apocalyptic scene, the reporter grabbing a young girl as the rebel and smoke settles around them. rescue efforts beginning immediately. in southern turkey, a young man trapped, desperation in his eyes. then in the predawn darkness, a moment of joy. pulled from the wreckage. this was a residential building full of families, asleep in their homes when the massive earthquake struck. >>. >> translator: i was sleeping when my wife suddenly woke me up. the quake was very severe, very scary. it took almost two minutes until the shaking stopped. >> reporter: as the hours go by,
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more rescues. hospitals also begin to overflow. reported deaths going up by the hundreds each hour, millions impacted. in syria, a father cries over his baby's limp body. many children among the killed and injured. it's unclear just how many are still trapped and how many have lost their lives. >> translator: there are 12 families, and no one managed to get out. they are all inside here. >> reporter: the white helmets have done this before. heros of the syrian civil war now pulling people out from under a very different disaster. so many in rebel-held northern syria had very little yesterday. many had already lost everything, displaced and reeling from years of war. >> translator: it's a disaster. all the floors crumbled into ruins. we need a month, maybe even three months to recover our dead. >> reporter: a winter storm hitting the region only exacerbating the dire situation and slowing rescue efforts. in turkey too, foreign help will
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be needed. world leaders already pledging and deploying rescue teams. the search and rescue will stretch on for days. hope remaining as long as possible. >> jomana, you have freezing temperatures, aftershocks continuing to hit the region. i mean, how hampered are these rescue efforts right now in turkey and syria? >> well, they are continuing, anderson, but as you can imagine, it's nighttime here. it's dark. this is definitely slowed down the search-and-rescue operations that have been ongoing now nearly for 24 hours. rescue workers are dealing with so many challenges. the weather, of course, it is freezing. it is snowing. many roads are blocked, making it very difficult for them to access a lot of these areas. and they've got low visibility being reported in some areas. as well many, many challenges
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that they are facing. and one of the issues we've heard from turkish official, anderson is saying the fact that this is such a vast area that they have to deal with. it's not contained in one province or two. we're talking about a large area, ten provinces, millions of people living in those areas across southern turkey. so a very, very complex search-and-rescue operation. of course international aid and support that turkey has requested is beginning to arrive. and we are hearing from aid agencies and syrians in northwestern syria calling on the international community also to act urgently and do more to provide support and assistance for these parts of syria that are in no way equipped to deal with yet another humanitarian disaster that's unfolding, anderson. >> jomana karadsheh, i appreciate it from istanbul. joining us a structural
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engineer, kit miyamoto who will be heading to turkey tomorrow from his company that's already on the ground. we're watching these rescues under way. we're seeing these buildings continue to collapse with aftershocks. we understand a 14-year-old child is trapped in one of them. can you explain just how at this stage search and rescue teams approach this? i mean, it seems like in a lot of places, it's not experts search and rescue teams. it's local police. it's civilians just trying to do what they can. >> exactly. i mean, this earthquake is a massive one. i'm talking about the rupture length of fault line exceeded 120 kilometers. it's a long area, a big area affected by it. estimate almost 10 million to almost up to 20 million people affected by strong motion. we're talking about the 15, 20% of the country affected by this, right. so it's definitely a mass effort. and you've seen clips from the
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cities. there is also rural area. and a lot of smaller like unreinforced masonry buildings. which is really dangerous too. so those extent of damage in rural area has not been seen yet, you know. so there will be a lot more come up there. >> when you see these buildings collapse, the only thing i have to really compare to is the earthquake in port-au-prince in haiti. estimates as high as 200,000 people killed in that. those structures were smaller. obviously a lot of poor construction there. how did the structures here compare and how much part of the problem is that? >> well, you know, turkey does have one of the best engineers in the world. they are good. building code is the same as california. but the older style buildings. that building code changed in about 1997. anything before 2000, they don't
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really meet the so-called earthquake criteria. so risk of that. and also, it's about code, right. it's about how the contractors and masons implement on the field. and there is definitely a lack of many cases. so estimation from our engineers is one of ten buildings collapsed are actually new construction. >> so what do you expect to find in the countryside? and how does -- how long an effort is this to even try to recover people? >> well, this is going to be probably the biggest natural disaster the turkish nation experience in modern times. so i think turkey is a strong country, you know, and got great engineers and everything, but they definitely need our support, international support. there is no doubt in my mind. and syria for sure. >> kit miyamoto, i'm glad you're heading tloefr, and our best to
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you and everybody who is trying to help. appreciate it. we turn now to the chinese spy balloon. cnn's josh campbell reports that wreckage of it has started arrive at the fbi's lab in quantico, virginia two days after an air force jet shot it out of the sky. the pentagon claims there were three others like it during the previous administration, something several former officials including john bolton disputed over the weekend. a senior current official tells cnn that the intelligence community is prepared to brief key members of the former administration, several of them telling us they have yet to be contacted. as for how the three other incidents went undiscovered after the fact, norad's commanding general used that phrase you might not have heard before to explain. >> i will tell you that we did not detect those threats. and that's a domain awareness gap that we have to figure out. but i don't want to go into further detail.
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>> further detail as what exactly a domain awareness gap. maybe it came to a fubar gap. that's just a guess. john miller joins us now with more of what the fbi analysts could learn. can you walk us through what the fbi is doing right now at quantico? >> so when they bring these pieces and parts from 47 feet beneath the ocean surface, it goes to the marine base at quantico, where the fbi has its academy and its lab. but off in the corner, away from all the other buildings is a very short complex called otd. it's the operational technology division. these are the scientists, the engineers, the special agents, the electronics whizzes who actually build the fbi's most sophisticated surveillance equipment. and what they'll do is they'll look at these parts and say this is a piece of something we recognize. this part fits with that part. this comes from something whose capability is x. what they'll try to do is forensically put together what
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was on that balloon as the payload, and what was it designed to do. >> the fbi said it's the size of a regional jet. this is a huge thing. >> hufnlgt. >> and plummeting through the sky into the ocean, the damage has to be pretty extreme. >> pretty extreme, but not as extreme necessarily as it would have been were it shot down over some vast unoccupied place in montana. but here's where the people at otd are going to make their money or not, or earn their money or not is not just helping -- and they'll have help from the nro, the national reconnaissance office, the cia people, experts in chinese surveillance technology. but where they really earn their money is if they're able to find that piece where they have it intact enough or can repair it enough to download data and see what was being vacuumed up into those surveillance technologies and what was being sent back.
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>> i want to ask you finally, you were on the program just a couple of days ago talking about threats to the electrical grid, particularly from white supremacist groups or neo-nazi groups. we just got news now there was a power grid plot being described as neo-nazi leader. i'm not sure how much of a leader he was and some woman from maryland he was linked with were planning to attack electrical substations encircling baltimore to, quote, entirely destroy the entire city. and that would spark some sort of a race war that white people would then take over, according to them. >> this is literally everything we were talking about on this broadcast friday night come to fruition. this was a real plot run by a neo-nazi leader who used to run the adam waffen decision. >> it's a levee small group? >> relatively small. but they operate online so they're not all in one place and not all together. but they get accolades in these
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chat rooms in the darkest corners of the internet. he finds her. she finds him. they find a third individual who turns out to be an fbi source. but they're talking about hitting multiple substations, doing the kind of damage to equipment in their planning that would take months to replace. they're hoping to plunge baltimore into a blackout that's going lead to looting and riots and a race war, and all of the things that come in the documents that are the playbooks for this. and it's just become a theme of this kind of right wing accelerationist neo-nazi movement online. >> it's fascinating. the timing was just incredible with this. john miller, thank you so much. coming up next, a look ahead to tomorrow night's state of the union speech. the accomplishments president biden will likely point to, which nearly two in three americans in new polling say they just do not see. and later, new developments in one of several investigations into george santos just days after the latest new allegation
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consequential pieces of legislation passed, but little seems to be registering with voters. polling shows 62% of americans say the president's either achieved not very much or little or nothing in office compared to 36% who said the opposite. joining me now cnn political commentators from across the political spectrum, bakari seller, karen finney, jeff duncan, former lieutenant governor of georgia. karen, what's the problem? why is no one seeing? >> no pressure. look, i think it's a couple of things. i think folks are fatigued, and a lot of the things that we in washington think resonate with people don't necessarily connect in their daily lives, and they don't necessarily always see it right away. but that's part of why the president is going to talk about. we call the informed vote when we say this in polling and focus groups. when you talk about what he has done, then the numbers start to change. so that's why we're going get a laundry list. i know you wanted a short speech, but it ain't happening. >> does it change anything?
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does anyone remember a state of the union except folks on cable news? >> the one line of the state of the union i remember is bill clinton once saying the era of big government is over. a pivot back to the middle, because they had lost in '94, and he was preparing to run for reelection. karen was there. >> yep. >> that's what i'm waiting to see if biden recognizes the problems that he has. 60% of the american people think he's done very little. 60% of his own party doesn't even want him to run again. they want somebody else for the nomination. obviously, it's just not a failure to connect with everybody. it's a failure to connect with his own people. so i want to see how he responds to that, because they've got serious underlying political problems that they seem to be scrambling for a way to fix. >> i don't think a pivot is necessary. and i think that what you're going to see is a president who has been very successful in his first two years in office. and that success actually showed itself at the ballot box in november. so unlike bill clinton, who got
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molly whopped, the only thing i remember is you lie by joe wilson. that was a member of congress. i do think you're going to get a laundry list. one of the things that this white house reminds me of the obama white house in is that you have to do a better job of communicating your successes. i'm not harping on the coms department per se. more democrats would say -- there is not a correlation between him not running for office again by democrats and his successes, because there are people who don't want him to run for office who think he has been an awesome president of the united states, but they have to get out there and share that message. i think the state of the union is hopefully the beginning of a campaign not to run for office again, but at least to spread that message. >> governor, if nobody thinks -- if many people in the country don't think he has accomplished much in the past two years given the makeup of the house, how much is he going be able to accomplish the next two years? >> those numbers are horrible, right? there is no way to describe those as optimistic if you're looking at them. i think it's because there is a
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disconnect. it doesn't feel like joe biden has been successful, even though the other side of the aisle from me sees these success. i think it's because america has a hard time figuring out how he makes his decisions. it starts with afghanistan. it seemed like a rash isolated decision that was underinformed. and even as you go through this weekend watching this balloon incident, i don't want to monday morning quarterback and figure out where to shoot that thing down at. but i feel like the commander in chief should have communicated to america who is wondering what in the world is going on. the communist chinese government has got a balloon going uncontested across our country. in trying to figure out the rationale behind its decision making, i think it's really, really plaguing him. >> i think he is almost in some ways a victim of success. we wanted him because we wanted back to normalcy. imagine if we had spent 24 hours of donald trump tweeting every ten seconds about the balloon? we would all be at our therapists' offices right now we would be so on edge. and i think to some degree, i spent my first holiday with my family this year. we haven't been able to see each other because of covid.
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you know, we forget what it was like when he took over. and that's a good thing. >> so there is a lot of drama in the next few years in the house. that actually going to help president biden? >> i would underscore the fact, and i think people forget this sometimes, that many of his largest successes were actually bipartisan. and so i'm not as afraid of this house. i think this house is unorganized. i think kevin mccarthy, he has yet to be proven to be a leader. but you talk about the inflation reduction act you. talk about the infrastructure bill. you talk about the things that he -- or just the covid relief packages. the things he's been able to do in a bipartisan fashion are the biggest pieces of legislation. when people will feel it, though, that's a question for later. >> karen, you invoked trump. i have a question for you. why do you think it is that donald trump was beating joe biden in this abc news/washington post poll? if everything is going great and he is doing everything bipartisan and everything he says is true, why do you think it is that after everything we've seen out of trump, which
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admittedly some of which is really terrible, he is beating joe biden head to head. is that a rhetorical question, anderson? >> no, i want to know. i want to know. my views are that he got elected president because he was not bernie sanders and he was not donald trump. his job was essentially to bridge us out of that era. and that's it. >> which he has done quite well. >> and now the country wants change, generational change. and frankly, i don't think they want him or trump to run for reelection which haas has also borne out in the polling. why are they pining for trump again? >> we just had an election. we had an opportunity for people to go to the polls, and they overwhelmingly said we would like democracy. we would like freedom. we don't want extremism. the republicans control the house bay very thin margin because a lot of districts are gerrymandered. >> they did win the national popular vote. >> by the republican side, they said they didn't want donald trump was a huge mandate that we saw. >> no, a number of candidates
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they did not want. >> 100 pound gorilla. joe biden is going to be 86 at the end of his second term. i don't think any fortune 500 company looks to hire executives or leaders with that type of age. and certainly that weighs on people all across the country, across both sides of the aisle. >> the flip side of that is the front-runner, until you all change your party nomination process is still donald trump. to answer your question directly, the united states of america doesn't want joe biden or donald trump to run for office, period. i mean, that's just where we are. people don't want to octogenarians running for president of the united states. but i think that when we're talk about tomorrow in the job of the past, from tomorrow backwards, joe biden has been an extremely effective president of the united states. now can he sell that as somebody who is an older individual? that is a question that we will just have to answer. i would say if it's old versus new, then new will win out, whether that new is ron desantis or whether that new is kamala
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harris or gavin newsom, whatever it is. but the fact is if it's donald trump versus joe biden, i take donald trump 14 out of 14 times. >> i think there is an interesting development starting on both sides of the aisle that these profiles of governors are starting to pick up, right. on both sides of the aisle. you mentioned gavin newsom and others certainly on the republican side. you've got ron desantis and larry hogan and glenn youngkin and even brian kemp to some respects because they're able to display their conservative leadership and they're out of the fray of d.c. they're crisp and clean leaders. i think there could be some developments on both sides. >> we're going to wrap it up there. appreciate. coming up, a new allegation against george santos that goes beyond lies about his biography and questions about his finances, just as new polls reveal how unpopular he has become, ahead. . (♪ ♪)
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house ethics committee started interviewing staffers for george santos, a sign it is beginning to look into one or more of the many allegations involving his biography and finances. and it comes as a perspective staffer named derrick meyers says he has filed ethics committee and police report against santos, accusing the long island republican of sexual harassment. according to the house ethics complaint, meyers says santos touched his inner thigh and, quote, proceeded to touch my groin. a national politics reporter eva mckend joins us now with the latest. what is santos saying about all of this? >> anderson, he is emphatically denying the allegation. derrick meyers came to santos' office from ohio, where he was working as a local reporter.
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meyers was charged with wiretapping last year after he published audio recorded by a source in a courtroom. that case, it's still ongoing. but that is what santos made reference today in his denial, suggesting this is someone who is aggrieved, essentially, because they didn't get a job. let's listen. >> any part of that. >> alleging that you made an unwanted sexual advance. >> it's comical. >> do you deny the climb against you? >> of course i deny the claim against me. let me make it clear. >> thank you. >> if there was remote, any part of that that was true, he should have led for that and not begged for a job that we decided to pull for him for being accused of doing exactly what he did to us. >> and just a follow-up, so you categorically deny it? >> 100%. >> so meyers did in fact tape a conversation with congressman
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santos and provided the recordings to the news website talking points memo, but that sexual harassment allegation not in any of the published material from the site. and we here at cnn haven't been able to independently verify that recording. meyers says, though, that he filed a police report. and anderson, as many of our viewers know, it is illegal to file a false police report. >> so do we know if the house ethics committee is going to launch investigation into these new allegations? >> you know, we don't, anderson. not at this stage. the house ethics committee, they're a bipartisan group that takes their work seriously and has a long-standing policy of not commenting. i did speak with a government ethics expert earlier this evening, and he told me this is a serious allegation that he beliefs the committee will in fact investigate. and i'm learning a little bit of how this would work. he told me that they would interview the complainant, they would interview congressman santos, and then they would try to interview witnesses if there
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were any. and then there is this separate issue of him, the complainant working in the office for free as a volunteer under the guys of eventually getting a job. it seemed to be that that was his understanding. well, that ethics expert telling me it's not clear that that arrangement was aboveboard, and that may be something that the committee has to look into as well. >> and is congressman santos attending the state of the union tomorrow? >> it sure seems that way. congressman santos says he's invited michael weinstock, a volunteer firefighter who was at the world trade center on 9/11 and suffers from neuropathy related to toxic exposure. this would not be a head-scratcher in any other case, especially for a member representing new york. but congressman santos repeatedly repeatedly claimed his mother was at the twin towers on 9/11 and that her exposure to toxins played a role in her death.
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cnn found that immigration records show his mother wasn't even in the country at the time. so why he would raise this issue in the context of his apparent lie on this matter about his mother, anderson, is truly puzzling. >> eva mckend, appreciate it. thank you. i'm joined now by harry enten with polling data that doesn't paint a good picture for the embattled congressman. what does it show? >> i have a general rule in politics that is you can get 10% of americans to agree on anything. so 10% of americans think the u.s. faked the moon landing. where is george santos' rating among his own constituents? it's 7%. it's 7%. >> that seems high to me. >> no, no, no. no, no, no. look. >> who would say oh, yeah, no, i think he is doing a great job? >> i'm sure you could find 7% of people who are pathological liars. so no, i don't think that's a high one. i think the fact that there are fewer in constituents in new york 3 who have a favorable view
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of him than americans who think we faked the moon landing is a pretty good indication that we're bowe the mendoza line where you can get 10% of americans to agree on anything. >> if he had a sense of shame or cared what people in this district thought, he might resign looking at these poll numbers. >> yes. they also asked him that particular poll do you believe that george santos should resign. 78% of his constituents said that yes, he should resign. now i made a historical comparison, right, of other scandaled politicians and whether or not voters thought they should resign at time of their scandals. and what you can see essentially. >> wow. >> santos at 78% is higher than say richard nixon was in 1974. >> wow. >> he was in the 60s. higher than eliot spitzer was back in his scandal back in 2008. and higher anthony weiner was back in 2011. >> at what phase of the anthony weiner scandal? >> that was taken after we found out some initial stuff. it was before he resigned. it was not, of course, during
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his mayoral bid. that was a bid in which he ended up in the single digits. but the fact was it's obviously a scandal on a different level. the thing about the santos scandal is every single day it just seems like there is a lie coming out. it almost seems like a lie a day. >> it's obviously focused in new york where he is representing or allegedly representing a district. what about the rest of the country. is there is a lot of interest in him? >> this is interesting. we're in new york right now, and obviously eva was in washington, d.c. and so i was wondering, is this just sort of a beltway story, right? but we can get a pretty good idea from google searches where people are searching for george santos, whether it's just really a new york story. >> that's interesting. >> as it turns out, 92% of the searches for george santos are outside of new york state. >> that's interesting. >> it does give you an indication that in fact that there are a lot of people nationally. >> only 8% of them are in new york. i wonder if people in new york like enough that we hear about him all the time. but outside maybe not so. >> i think we had that previous
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slide that showed all the scandal-laden politicians in new york. >> they were all new york. >> they were all except for nixon. richard nixon did live in new york or lived in new jersey. >> he did. harry enten, always a pleasure. >> thank you, sir. the latest in the double murder trial of alex murdaugh. a big setback from his defense. plus testimony from the only witness who saw murdaugh around the time of the murders. we'll be right back. let's go! ♪ what you gon' do? you ain't talkin' 'bout nothin'! ♪ ♪ let's get started. bill, where's your mask? i really tried sleeping with it, everybody. now i sleep with inspire. inspire? no mask? no hose? just sleep.
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the judge in the double murder trial of alex murdaugh delivered a severe blow to his defense. murdaugh is a member of what was once considered a prestigious family in south carolina, but it turns out he had allegedly been stealing from his families for years. he is on trial of killing his wife and youngest son to try to deflect attention from the alleged financial crimes the prosecutors say were about to be revealed. his attorney said the fraud claims were irrelevant, that they shouldn't be presented to the jury. but after days of testimony, the judge disagreed and today key testimony from a witness who said she talked with murdaugh on the night of the murders, and that he made her, quote, nervous. cnn's randi kaye has more on that. >> was it unusual to see alex murdaugh at that residence that time of night? >> yes, on my shift, yes. >> reporter: this woman is the only witness who saw alex murdaugh around the time of the murders. michelle "shelly" smith worked
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as a caregiver for alex's mother and says alex came to his mom home shortly after the state says maggie and paul murdaugh's phones ceased all activity, meaning they were likely dead. alex's mother had alzheimer's. smith said his mom was sleeping that night, and it was unusual for alex to come visit her so late. smith recalled am alex stayed about 15 to 20 minutes. despite that, he told her the next day unsolicited that he was there much longer than that. >> just to be clear, what was the statement he said about how long he was here? >> 30 to 40 minutes. >> but his phrase was "i was here"? >> "i was here 30 to 40 minutes". >> was he there 30 to 40 minutes that night? >> not to my knowledge. >> reporter: smith cried on the stand as she shared how that conversation with alex made her so nervous, she called her brother to tell him about it.
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she seemed to suggest alex was sending her message to say he was there longer the night of the murders. she also described for the jury how alex seemed fidgety. the defense pushed back. >> is his normal behavior kind of fidgety? >> yes. >> reporter: smith told the jury days after the murders, alex returned to his mother's house around 6:30 in the morning with what looked like a blue tarp. >> something like this? >> yes. >> what did it look like? >> like a blue tarp. like a tarp. >> blue? >> blue. >> okay. was it vinyl? >> it was like a tarp you put on your car to keep your car covered up. >> did he say anything when he walked in? >> no. >> what did he do when he walked? >> went upstairs. >> reporter: the prosecutors argued in opening statements that investigators recovered a blue raincoat at alex's mothers home that had gun residue on it. the south carolina law enforcement division told the jury she found a blue raincoat tucked away in a closet at his
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mother's house. >> we located a blue raincoat in the coat closet on the second floor. when we found it, it was balled up like this? >> that is correct. >> reporter: still, the defense injected some doubt, getting smith, the caregiver to confirm she thought it was a tarp, not a raincoat. >> and it was not a rain jacket, was it? >> no, it wasn't. >> it was a blue tarp? >> yes. >> the defense also pointed out the blue item, whatever it was, didn't have a gun wrapped inside it, such as a murder weapon which would have left gunshot residue. but the caregiver noticed more about alex the night of the murders. >> did you observe anything about his face? any on his face? >> he had a little cut or something. >> and ma'am, i apologize a little what? >> like a little bruise or something. >> where was it? >> like above his forehead. >> what she didn't see on alex was blood. >> did alex have -- alex murdaugh have blood on his clothes? >> no.
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>> did he have blood on his shoes? >> no. >> he have blood on his hair? >> no. >> randi kaye joins us now. so if alex murdaugh didn't have blood on him when he went to his mom's house, what would that mean necessarily? >> well, anderson, based on the timing, he likely went to his mom's house after those murders had already occurred. so it could mean if he didn't have blood on him that he really wasn't there at the time of the murders, as he has said. or it could mean, as the prosecutors suggested, that he washed up and changed his clothes after allegedly killing his wife and son. now we know from the caregiver at his mom's house he was wearing shorts and a white t-shirt when he showed up there which is different than the clothing he was wearing about an hour before the murders happened to occur on the snapchat video that his son paul had sent out. the jury will have to decide which one they believe on that. but also one note on that blue raincoat. the witness who oversaw all of the testing of the gunshot residue on that raincoat, she is
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going to take the stand tomorrow. she will likely say there was gunshot residue on the raincoat as the prosecutor already said in his opening statement. but the trouble is nobody actually saw alex murdaugh wearing that raincoat the night of the murder. so the jury will really have to connect the dots on that one. >> randi kaye, appreciate it. up next, we cake you to ukraine for a fascinating story. how a 102-year-old great-grandmother is helping ukrainian soldiers on the front lines, and a report about the front lines ahead. by working with you on a retiremenent-income plan designed to balance growth and d guaranteed income. because doors were meant to be opopened. eva's about to learn her fear of missing out leads to overating. i totally eat stuff to not miss out. ♪ that's jt a bit of psychology eva learned from noom weight. sign up now at noom.com
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as mentioned earlier, tomorrow night during the state of the union address, president biden is expected to talk about u.s. support for ukraine with the one-year anniversary of russia's invasion about two weeks away. so far the biden administration has committed nearly $30 billion in security assistance to ukraine. it includes m-1 abrams tanks which are not yet on the battlefield. today german crews began training with the leopard 2 that volodymyr zelenskyy has been pushing for, but he already has another powerful tool, namely the resilience and determination of ukrainians refusing to leave the country, including a 102-year-old great-grandmother who slivering through war again
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and helping soldiers on the front lines. sam kiley has her story. >> reporter: at 102, her survival is extraordinary, not least because she has endured three famines over her century, and all of them blamed on the kremlin. >> translator: we ate linden, linden leaves and nettles. we used to grind these wild plants into flour, bake with it and eat it. >> reporter: at 13, she saw her older brother and sister perish in ukraine's worst mass starvation. >> translator: my legs were swollen. my arms were swollen. i was so sick. i thought i was going to die. >> reporter: in the early 1930s on joseph stalin's orders, ukraine's farmers were stripped of every grain they produced to feed moscow's industrialization. >> children dying of hunger. they were taken to a truck. they dug a big hole and threw them all in.
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>> reporter: ukraine is now 11 months into the latest russian invasion. three of her grandchildren are soldiers fighting russian troops because russia's president doesn't believe that ukraine exists. it should be noted that ukraine actually never had stable traditions of real statehood. putin claimed. russia's assault on kyiv failed last year. many ukrainians believe they're fighting off another attempt at genocide. >> translator: the leaders and organizers of the genocide sit in the same offices in the same place. at the center of these events is moscow, and the object of destruction is ukraine as a nation. >> reporter: ukraine's government says thousands of citizens have been forced into russian territory, and 14,000 children are missing. how many millions of people died in the many famines brought upon by russia in this country over the last century is a matter of
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debate among historians and human rights lawyers will debate whether or not what is happening today can be defined as a genocide. but there is no question that over the last 100 years, the relationship between moscow and ukraine has been bleak. >> translator: we need to exterminate them so that not a single one is left. only then can there be any peace. >> reporter: to help the war effort, she ties burlap into netting to make sniper camouflage. but it may be her laughter that has kept her going so many years. >> a remarkable story. you're in zaporizhzhia right now. what's the late ohs tonight front lines? >> well, the front lines on this axis run from here basically pretty much due east. now they are relatively static,
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but there have been signs of a russian buildup. but around bakhmut, anderson, there is very, very intensive fighting. also in the city of voledar. bakhmut is on a hill. it's a city. it's going to be in the view of the ukrainians who are already debating whether or not they should hang on to it. but they believe they can if they so choose. the issue will be whether or not it's worth it in terms of the cost to the ukrainians in terms of men and matert materiel behi that. volodymyr zelenskyy believes the ukrainians are going to fight to the last man. there is going to be a debate in the coming days whether it's really worth essentially reinforcing failure from the ukrainian point of view or whether they fall back to their defensive positions. this has been a very bloody battle. ahead of what is anticipated to be a russian offensive somewhere along this 800 mile long some
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tonight a quick story about a 9-year-old who just graduated high school. that's right. you heard me right. he is 9 and just graduated high school. according to our affiliate, david received his diploma from a charter school in pennsylvania after taking classes remotely. david gives a lot of credit to his favorite teachers. both of david's parents have advanced degrees, but david's mom said raising someone as gifted as david is challenging. it's because he knows and understands concepts that are, quote, sometimes beyond my understanding. and i know that he has graduated, david apparently has his future mapped out. >> i want to be an astrophysicist. and i wanted to study black holes and super nova. >> i'm not even sure what they are exactly, but i have no doubt he will do that. david's parents say they are looking at colleges right now. in the meantime, david is working on his black belt in martial arts. we wish him the best. the news
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