a 9-year-old who just graduated high school. that's right. you heard me right. he is 9 and just graduated high school. according to our affiliate, david received his diploma from a charter school in pennsylvania after taking classes remotely. david gives a lot of credit to his favorite teachers. both of david's parents have advanced degrees, but david's mom said raising someone as gifted as david is challenging. it's because he knows and understands concepts that are, quote, sometimes beyond my understanding. and i know that he has graduated, david apparently has his future mapped out. >> i want to be an astrophysicist. and i wanted to study black holes and super nova. >> i'm not even sure what they are exactly, but i have no doubt he will do that. david's parents say they are looking at colleges right now. in the meantime, david is working on his black belt in martial arts. we wish him the best. the news continues.

aaron burnett out front starts now. now a race against time to find survivors in an earthquake that's killed more than 3800 people as they definitely search for survivors. the death toll is rising, and we are have a live report in just a minute. plus, desantis versus disney. why the florida governor cannot quit fighting the most magical place on earth. a place so magical that he reportedly got married there. and putin's ex-wife living a life of total luxury, now sanctioned by many countries, including the united states. we're going talk to a reporter who literally went knocking on her mansion door. what she found, what they said, and she's got the pictures to prove it. let's go "outfront." and good evening. welcome to all to a special edition of "outfront" tonight. i'm erin burnett. we're going get to all of these stories and much more. i want to begin, though, the devastation and desperation unfolding right now as we are all watching this. 4300 people now confirmed dead

after that massive earthquake struck turkey in syria. i just want to say to you an hour ago we were talk about 3400. this number is rising and rising quickly, as rescue crews are digging through the rubble there, desperately trying to find survivors. it is freezing. it is snowing. there has been a 7.8 earthquake which struck "early start"i i earlier this morning. crews are able to hear the voices of people buried alive and are unable to get to many of them. video catching a moment of a building collapsing in turkey. you can imagine the human life inside. thousands of homes we understand have been destroyed. and again, people were inside. people were sleeping, children. and the weather, as i mentioned, is absolutely freezing. some areas are being hit with heavy snow and rain. our nick paton walsh is in ankara, turkey tonight. nick, you've been traveling through that snow. i know it was incredibly hard to even drive, as we see behind you. how much hope is there to find

survivors tonight as the death toll numbers are tragically rising? >> that is the desperate hope, that these horrifyingly cold and bitter conditions might leave some people to be able to be pulled alive from the rubble. this earthquake barely even 24 hours old. and we started this morning with 600 dead. now in turkey, 2,921 are the latest figures we're hearing. some cities, particularly near kahramanmaras where this particular epicenter was near, hard for rescuers to get to. gaziantep, a city that bloomed out of almost nowhere in the past decade because of the civil war in syria and the refugees that flooded to it also heavily hit. but down the road here this constant stream over excavators, fire ambulances, on the move to try and help the hard hit south where really those numbers are going sadly to edge up as this cold continues to bite. that's the battle to save people in turkey.

they've been preparing for earthquakes and has a functioning government. across the border to still at times war-torn syria and things are so much more complex, because winter will be claiming people frankly in the poor conditions of life already over there in some of the refugee camps and the poor infrastructure. the earthquake has damaged the little shelter some people had there. and the question now is how does aid get to them. it's politicized and awful frankly at the best of times, trying to get food aid in. now at a moment of acute crisis. they have to try to ramp that up along with efforts. the death toll is over a thousand inside of syria, but that sadly too looks destined to rise in the hours and days ahead. i've got tell you, it is perishingly cold here for rescuers. but for those people who were likely trapped in the rubble as they lay in their sleep at about 4:00 yesterday, significantly more dangerous times ahead. erin? >> it's just horrifying to imagine the suffering they're going through. thank you very much, nick paton

walsh who is on his way there, and you can see how difficult it is to even travel. breaking news on another major story tonight as well, and that is new and exclusive details just in to cnn about a u.s. intelligence assessment. and let me tell you about it. so basically, this detailed chinese spy balloon sightings during the trump presidency. we mentioned those balloons were here. and it comes as president biden is hitting back. he is defending his decision to take down the chinese spy balloon after it spent about a week in the united states. here is his defense. >> we did the right thing, and there is not a question of scheduling. it's just the reality. >> talking about waiting obviously until it was not over land. biden says he is confident america did the right thing. that has not stopped republicans from all different points of view from pouncing. >> our enemies no longer fear us, obviously, and our friends don't respect us. >> it's one more failure of several of this administration. >> the only reason that the administration started to care about it was because the american people heard about it. >> the humiliation this week was

inflicted by the chinese communist on the president. again, we should have shot down this balloon over the aleutians as opposed to letting it float on its merry way. >> the message to the world is we can fly a balloon over airspace of the united states of america, and they won't be able to do anything about it to stop us. >> all right. the outrage universal. the reasons specific. but now we are learning more about chinese balloon incidents that have been documented under the trump administration. so phil mattingly is "outfront" at the white house. these are breaking details. so phil, what do you know now? >> erin, one of the big questions has been the biden administration's contention that several balloons traverse at least parts of the united states during the trump administration. trump senior officials saying they have no knowledge of these actually happening. and we're actually getting a sense of what the biden administration is talking about. and this comes from our colleague zack cohen who reports according to a military

assessment from april of 2022, it lays out how in 2019, when donald trump was president of the united states, there was a balloon, a chinese operated balloon that crossed over hawaii and through florida at one point as an example of one of these basically issues occurring prior to this administration. and this is part of an intelligence process. the white house national security supervisor jake sullivan, that made collection intelligence to traditional china. they were able to track back and pick up signals of what they may have missed beforehand. this and at least two other occasions are two of those examples. those examples driving a biden administration approach that as you noted has been questioned by republicans. but officials maintain it was the right course of action over the course of the last week. >> i told them to shoot it down. >> reporter: for president biden, a definitive. the. >> wednesday. >> on wednesday. >> the recommendation. >> they said to me, let's wait

until the safest place to do it. >> reporter: coming less than 30 minutes after this moment. an f-22 fighter jet blowing a chinese spy balloon out of the sky and into the atlantic ocean on saturday. >> china should not be permitted to do this. it's unfortunate that the balloon was permitted to go all the way across the united states. >> reporter: but doing little to deflate the growing political backlash after days of the balloon traveling across the u.s. >> you allowed a full week for the chinese to conduct spying operations over the united states. >> journey to the united states. >> reporter: even as white house officials explicitly echoed what biden appeared to implicitly hint at on saturday. >> is that frustration in terms of the political attacks you have gotten from the republicans? >> what china did is unacceptable. we protected civilians, and we gained more intel while protecting our own sensitive information. >> reporter: u.s. officials revealing this isn't the first time a chinese spy balloon has entered u.s. airspace. >> during the trump administration, as you said, there were multiple instances

where these surveillance balloons traversed american airspace and american territory. >> reporter: republican lawmakers identifying florida and texas as two locations balloons had briefly floated through. yet top trump official said that was news to them. >> i don't ever recall somebody coming into my office or reading anything that the chinese had a surveillance balloon above the united states. >> reporter: as biden administration officials acknowledge they discovered the incursions after former president trump left office, and now offering this. >> we are ready to brief key officials to let them know what the intelligence community was able to figure out. >> reporter: and highlight the rationale for waiting to shoot the balloon down until it was over open water. >> the military used every asset at their disposal to collect against the balloon, to determine what it was carrying, to learn more about its tradecraft and its capabilities. >> reporter: for now, white house officials urging calm and biden minimizing the effect on a

bilateral relationship already rife with tension. >> we made it clear to china what we're going to do. they understand our position. we're not going back off. we did the right thing. and there is not a question of weekend or scheduling. it's just reality. >> reporter: even as he brushed off the critical question that top officials have grappled with for more than a week. >> why did the chinese need to make such a brazen act across the continental united states? >> they're the chinese. >> the president laughing off my question earlier today. but it remains a central question for administration officials as they weigh what this means for the bilateral relationship going forward. one thing officials say they don't have any questions over is their ability to mitigate the chinese surveillance balloon's ability to collect intelligence even as it loitered over critical sites including icbm and nuclear testing sites. officials say they were able to ensure there were no activities and no unencrypted notifications

going out, but obviously a lot more to learn as they collect the remains from the ocean. >> thank you. congressman kinzinger, let me start with you. there is a political side of this we're going to talk about and then the practical spy craft of it. and you know a lot about this. this whole thing about there were ones in the past flying all the way from hawaii to florida, last i checked. that's a pretty much end to end. so now they're finding out that that happened in the past. does that make sense to you? >> it can. because so they probably have historical data of what kind of radar returns they've gotten. seeing a balloon on a radar is not actually that easy. keep in mind the balloon itself, that material is not going to reflect back anything on the radar. >> right. >> what you'll get is the contraption that's holding that is a line of three buses in essence. if you're looking at that on a radar, it may not make sense. what you're seeing may not make

sense. the fact that it's at 60,000 feet may not. they've seen what the signature of this one is, take that signature and compare it to past historical data and oh, here and here. >> that thing we thought was a ufo literally was maybe a balloon. that makes sense then. so then you're politically in this point of view, van, where we have to deal with the fact that they didn't know. they didn't know. and you have trump coming out. what does trump say today, the chinese would never have bloat flotillaed the blimp over the united states if i was president. not only did they float one, they flew at least three from it sounds like how the congressman is laying it out. this is a thing. >> well, listen, it turns out that to your point, we don't have a perfect ability to understand everything that's happening at 60,000, 100,000 feet. and that should bring us together to figure out okay, why are they doing this? what's the gain? and what can we do about it? instead, it's turned into the same kind of stuff that we always have with everybody throwing bananas at each other and saying mean stuff. here is what i know for sure.

part of this is we're just mammals. you see something and it seems like it's real because you can see it. there are much bigger threats. tiktok is a bigger threat to national security than this dadgum balloon, i promise you. but we're going to be fixated on this. it has hurt us because i would rather tonight be talking about blinken over in china right now talking about taiwan, talking about russia, talking about the ukraine, but instead we're talking about a damn balloon. >> which by the way, just to say, congressman, blinken's visit was going to be crucial. this was the first time in decades you had a secretary of state who was going to meet the leader of china. >> it would be critical. >> and now that is not happening. >> china poses still to this day a larger threat to the united states than russia ever could, right? and so this is really unfortunate in terms of the timing of this. i too am really distraught by the politicization of national security issues. you would think there would at least be that sacred space in our politics. >> what planet do you live? there is no sacred space. >> these are aspirational.

>> you're above 65,000 feet right now. >> i still believe in the future of this country. >> can i be the -- take the other side on this? i did feel like there was a little politicking from the biden white house on this. they declassified this information they found about the prior incursions. i was the press secretary in 2019 under mike esper. well were never briefed on that. and this was not a pentagon that was weak on china. we reoriented the entire national strategy around countering china. so to just declassify that and sprinkle it out there, it almost feels like yeah, but it happened there. to mondaire's point, on critical national security issues, we should be able to. could together. >> but to be clear on the practicality that we're talking about, we saw in phil's piece, then secretary of defense esper. he is saying no one ever came in my office and told me about that. i'm not presuming there is a cover-up. they didn't know until now. do you think she has a point, that there is a politicization now? >> certainly.

this is where we have got to stop, to mondaire's point. you get two to your points tonight. this has to end at the water's edge. look, when i was in congress, it was politicized when we killed suleimani, which was a great shot and a really smart thing to do in iran. now i see a lot of my former colleagues politicizing this balloon. look, they should have shot it down over the aleutian islands. however, we find out they were collecting information on it as they said. they may have been able to jam the signals and it may work out to our advantage. we don't know that. but i think to jump out and impeach biden you have every right to disagree. >> they jumped to impeach. they go real quick to impeach. >> let me say another thing too. we assume that china is this kind of perfect genius set of people that never makes a mistake. this is possibly just a mess-up on their part. in other words, i'm not sure that they wouldn't have rather had the blinken summit as well.

as you look at what china said, china expressed regret. when does china express regret about anything? >> it got caught. you know how the stratosphere came down over new hampshire? maybe the weather was involved brought it lower. >> not that they were actually spying. >> somehow i'm right about that. not washington is involved. >> i just want to say. we don't know enough to be as certain as we are, to be as divided as we are. this seems to be a new phenomenon for us. and with need to be able to come together and figure out what is going on. i'm not convinced that china did this to make biden look bad. somebody might be getting beheaded right now for all we know over this. and the reality is we don't know enough. >> by the way, that's not even a joke. >> just real quick, a lot of these republicans jump the gun before even getting briefings. they have not briefed the house yet. i believe the gang of eight has been briefed. but get the fax first. >> what we do know is the u.s. military advised the shooting down of this precisely when the administration did it.

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half a century, has its own fire department, building department, even runs its own utilities. now that is all set to change. >> people that don't live in this area don't understand what this is going to do to us. why do i need to get entangled in some contest, you know, some presidential campaign that the governor is running? >> reporter: widely seen as a gop presidential candidate, florida governor ron desantis signed into law a bill that will get rid of the special sauts. critics say it was retaliation for disney, the state's largest single site employer speaking out against a law dubbed don't say gay, which limits how sexual orientation and gender identity are taught in classrooms. >> we shouldn't let one company have their own set of rules compared to everybody else. >> reporter: calling it political heat they're will cost him. >> disney puts on a great show, and sometimes our politicians try to put on a better show. quite honestly, i don't want to be paying their debt. i don't want to be paying their billion bond. >> everyone is back with me.

van, here is the thing. desantis has clearly taken this on as a cultural issue. he is the don't say gay, he doesn't like their policies. this is the thing. but then you kind of get that victory that he got it, and all of the sudden comes the reality which is money. disney currently for all of the disney parks, which is two full counties, magic kingdom, epcot, typhoon lagoon, animal kingdom, right, all of it, they pay for fire, ambulance, water, utilities, infrastructure and roads. last i checked these are things usually paid for by a government. so if you're looking at a billion or two billion, all of the sudden disney is not paying it? what about florida's taxes that are supposedly so low? >> there are so many things that are wrong here. first you, have to remember, i thought the whole part of the republican party is freedom, free enterprise. this is -- xi jinping would love this idea, that the government is going the step in and start

punishing companies that don't go along with the party line. this is chinese communist party tactics being put forward by desantis. and how he is the right wing guy, the conservative guy, a hero of the right. i don't understand why this is good. it's not good politics. and also it's very, very scary. if this guy winds up in the white house, what is he going to do to every other american business that doesn't go along with him? >> go ahead, alyssa. >> i would say it's good politics to play to the base. it's terrible for a general election and ever being able to reach independents. and the thing with ron desantis, because i personally think he is overhyped as somebody who could be a gop front-runner, he is not battle tested on a national level or even frankly in the media. he doesn't sit down and do introduce. i would love to hear his answer on why we shouldn't teach ap black history that is something i would be very curious to hear because i think he is conflating wit critical race theory and other things and playing fast

and loose to score the cheap political point. this is the definition of crony capitalism and antithetical to conservatism, which is the trump takeover of the party. >> i know as point of transparency you work for abc which also happens to be owned by disney. go ahead. >> the interesting thing about ron desantis is he was part of shutting down the government. the whole time i was in congress that he was there, over these different spending issues and everything. congress ron back in the day would always be against any government intrusion and corporation. that's what republicans get criticized, right? we're too hands off on corporations. this is literally playing outrage of the day politics. it is great -- trust me, it is great in a primary. i don't know what it's going to do to him in a general election, but this violates everything that a conservative has ever stood for. and i don't think you can before the government, state or federal come in doing that. >> interesting you say he didn't used to be that way. >> sure. >> i've seen estimates the property taxes could go up around 20% to pay for this.

when rubber meets the road, it's not as easy. but mondaire, disney is a cultural issue to him. other cultural issues he is taking out, there is a complaint obtained by the floridian obtained by the liquor board of florida suing the orlando philharmonic over drag queen christmas. now drag queen christmas has been going on for eight years. desantis has complained other years. but he is complaining that young children were there, and all ages were welcome. we've got a picture from the complaint, just to give everyone a sense that it's pretty blurry. you can't totally see. it's 9:00, at least people get a sense of it. now mondaire, is this a winning issue to do this and say look, this is a problem that 6-year-olds were there? >> look, every day this governor does something, i am surprised by the extent to which people describe him as formidable in a general election. i mean, he is going to have to explain why he has banned ap african american studies, to your point, alyssa. he is going to have to explain

why he is attacking young lgbtq people who already experience thoughts of suicide at multiple times the rate as their cis gender heterosexual counterparts. is this an attack on drag queen story hour? these are issues i thought we had resolved as a nation, whether we will teach black history, whether we will acknowledge the mere existence of lgbtq people. and he is going to have real difficulty with white suburban voters who the republican party is going to need to court aggressively in the general election. >> one question, let me put this to you, drag queen story hour, this is not a big thing, okay. but now the extent that it is something that comes up, there are a lot of parents who may not be republican or right wing republican who might be uncomfortable with that. is it a smart issue to pick it? so in other words, so that you as a democrat aren't put in a position of defending why 6-year-olds should be allowed to go to drag queens? >> it's cynical. and it's the kind of cynical thing a bully does. it speaks poorly to his

character. i don't think that the biggest threat to american children is some drag queen thing. >> yep. >> we've got american kids going to bed hungry. we've got american kids who don't know what's going to happen to them tomorrow. but you pick on something, and you take their pain, and you use that for your own benefit, it's a character issue for him, and i think it's wrong. >> if ron desantis were worried about the safety of young children in the state of florida, he would not be making it easier to do permitless carrying. instead he is focusing on things that are going to divide this country in the hope it will allow him to outflank donald trump in the republican primary that remains to be seen. >> it's plausible. >> the one thing you have to take into account are parents allowed to have input in their kids' education here? is this something that kids, this drag queen story hour, and i don't know all the details of it, are kids basically being put in front of that without parents having an input, that i have a problem with. but i don't have a problem is people doing things that they have a right and freedom to do.

>> choice. >> people have a choice. >> well, and therein in lies the difference of actual conservatism. i'm not comfortable with the idea of a 6-year-old being at a drag show. i love drag. i'm 33. let's not ban it and have the heavy hand of the state come in and make a decision for parents. let the parent opt in to what they want their kids to have exposure to. it's going to be interesting to see. because obviously desantis has made it very clear, that is not where he stands when it comes to all of these issues. big choice in the republican party. thanks very much to all. next, a bizarre challenge to the chief of the wagner group which is directly to president volodymyr zelenskyy of ukraine. plus, what secrets could vladimir putin's ex-wife know? ending up at one of her lavish homes, and she is going to show you the pictures, next. tions ch, easy-to-use tools, and paper tradining to help sharpen your skills, you can stayay on top of the market from wherever you are. power e*trade's easy-to-use tools make complex trading less complicated.

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tonight, life of luxury. new details about russian president vladimir putin's mysterious ex-wife. she was married to putin for 30 years. politico reporting that lyudmila ocheretnaya and her now husband own several apartments in spain. walk to the beach, several swimming pools on-site. also reporting in france that her husband purchased the same year her divorce with putin was announced. and a property in davos switzerland, the year they got married. all of this leading to questions about where all that money came from, and why that couple has not been sanctioned by the u.s. or the eu. lyudmila putin married for 30 years, they share grandchildren. "outfront" now, lthe political

reporter who has done extensive reporting. thank you so much for your time. you've got the receipts here to show us and the pictures. lyudmila is one of the closest people to putin in the world, maybe an ex-wife. but 30 years of marriage, children together, grand children together, a life together. and you traveled across europe to visit these properties. tell me about the spanish apartment. you knocked on the door and what happened? >> yeah, so i visited together with a local journalist batista, and we had been knocking on different doors in the apartment complex before it wasn't quite clear which door it actually was. but then eventually neighbors told us. and we did not expect that someone would actually open the door, because they're so secretive usually. but this business partner, this alleged business partner called vladimir, he opened the door and actually offered to show it to us and said the couple is willing to sell it.

and so that was the first time we ever heard that they're considering selling it. unfortunately, the next day he pulled out and claimed it was a misunderstanding. but just gave us an indication that they are willing to sell their properties. >> so, you know, let's just go through some of the timeline here that's very interesting. putin and his wife, 30 years married. they announce their divorce during a press conference in 2013. in 2014, putin was asked about his relationship status. and just to give an indication, you're married to someone for 30 years, you've got two children, a life together, here's what he said. >> translator: first, i need to marry off my ex-wife lyudmila alec sandradrovna. >> she does get married to her now husband. do you think it was possible

putin was passing these massive amounts of money to them? >> certainly possible. and it's within the navalny foundation, and what they're alleging. there is no certain proof of this, but it is likely. she has declared in her income of her own. so it is quite unlikely that she could afford these properties by her own if she had not received any money. she did get the ownership of a massive building near the kremlin, which generates a lot of income for her in rent. so that would be one of the sources of her income that she got from essentially being married off after the divorce from putin. >> as you say, this couple has no known income of their own. but you're also talking about your reporting. the house in davos that i know

we could literally see in pool pictures from people's live shots, it was in the distance. biarritz, other places, how many did you find out about? >> yes, so we found out before and there had been investigations before and into the property. and so i checked them out. and there, as you said before, there are two in spain, one in davos and in switzerland and one in biarritz in france. but there could be many more, because these are just places that investigations have shown they have properties. but in europe, a lot of european countries don't have public registers of properties. so they could have apartments in germany, in portugal and sweden that we just don't know about. >> incredible. in a sense, as you say, it's so amazing what you found out. yet obviously in so many ways the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the unknown massive amounts of money. of course when it comes to

putin, who knows. tens and tens of billions. thank you so much for sharing that with us and all the photos as well. >> thank you for having me. >> all right. and next, will tensions fall now that the chinese spy balloon is down? "outfront," a key lawmaker on the house intelligence committee. plus, are words leading to violence? why the artist formerly known as kanye west is topping one chart that very few would admire. ♪ let's go! ♪ what you gon' do? you ain't talkin' 'bout nothin'! ♪

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tonight, prigozhin prigozhin, head of the notorious wagner army recording a video from a russian fighter jet and claiming to have bombed eastern ukraine. challenging president zelenskyy to a dogfight in the sky. this as intense fighting continues around bakhmut. lots of people are dying, dying horrible deaths. a ukrainian commander describing the city as an unwinnable fortress. thousands of russian soldiers have died there. ukrainians have died there. jim heim is the top democrat on the house intelligence committee. and congressman, you're being briefed regularly. so you know the very latest

about prigozhin's growing influence in moscow. the former u.s. commanding general for europe earlier tonight told me if prigozhin went up in a mig above ukraine, he would be shot down and killed. why is he engaging in this propaganda in a fighter jet and seemingly childishly suggesting he and president volodymyr zelenskyy have an air duel? >> well, it's all understandable in the context of what it is he is trying to do. he is trying to displace the russian military hierarchy. this is the whole point about his fight in bakhmut, which is not a terribly important military prize. but he is saying look, russia hasn't had a lot of wins. and one win arguably, it's not done yet, the one win is under me, not under the minister of defense, not under all the four-star generals. it's under me. it's very much a power play inside the kremlin. which by the way, you wouldn't anticipate that a frat boy would challenge enemies to a dogfight. but that's the nature of the

testosterone-fueled conflicts inside the kremlin. >> it's really amazing. on a day where we have video of a russian running, his entire body on fire, that one of the most senior people in charge of the battle there would be making mockery of a dogfight. it is hard to get your head around it. so the other day, i talked to a russian officer. the senior most officer who has spoken out. he fought on the front lines for several months. he said he witnessed torture there. he has detailed it. he has talked about it. he was in an anti-mine unit. he has defected now, and he is seeking asylum in the united states. so congressman, i actually talked to him when he was in mexico. he has approached border guards. he is now formally seeking asylum. here is some of what he told me. >> translator: i ask the ukrainian people for forgiveness that i came to their land with a gun in my hand.

i believe that the united states of america is the country of democracy where human rights are upheld. >> congressman, should the u.s. entertain his asylum plea or one from any russian soldiers who defect from the military? >> yeah, erin, i don't know a lot of details about the particular case, but i will point out that this is a really difficult and challenging area. you can't have a situation where war criminals and an awful lot of mid level and senior officers in the russian military are war criminals, where they decide that their get out of jail free card is to defect and come to the united states. so i wish i could tell you there was a simple answer to this, but we obviously encourage defections. it's not bad to see senior members of the russian military decide that they no longer want to be in the fight. but at the end of the day, war criminals will need to be held accountable. so it's going to be a challenge

for us to figure out who should get asylum and who needs to be held accountable for their war crimes. >> right, right. and certainly all of that out in the public in a way that it wasn't -- von braun, i'm thinking of other situations we can all think of. i want to ask you about china, if i can, congressman. we're learn mortgage about the three chinese spy balloon incidents that went undetected during the trump administration. one of them at least was in 2019. the balloon seen over florida and texas. one transited from hawaii all the way down to florida. and we're just finding out about them now. what can you tell us about that? is that because after they saw this one, they were able to say oh, now we know what this looks like? now we can see things that we thought were ufos or uaps were actually balloons? >> yeah, so i can't get too deep into the details, but i can tell you this, which is it's almost impossible to fly something the size of one of these balloons. they're truly massive.

these things are truly massive. they're imminently visible, as we know from the civilians who saw them with the naked eye in montana. so it should come as a surprise to nobody that we actually know a fair amount about the history of chinese piloting these balloons. now who knew what inside the trump administration, it's not clear to me right now what the answer to that question is. but it is important that people understand that this is not a radically new technology that we were completely unaware of, and by the way, the opportunity to observe will have a whole conversation inside the congress about whether the biden administration was clear enough and transparent enough of what was happening. the opportunity to observe one of these things up close and personal is a huge counterintelligence win for the united states. >> all right. congressman himes, thank you so much. i appreciate your time. >> thank you, erin. and next, hate in america. from flyers left by cowards to the ugly statements of a celebrity, all of which may be

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flyers found in several atlanta area neighborhoods. this is after antisemitic pamphlets were found in the neighborhood. we have details on one factor to deal with the rise in antisemitism around the u.s.. >> the nypd is looking for this man, wanted for attacking a jewish man in central park and sounding kanye 24. kanye west, also known as ye, posted this a few weeks prior. when i wake up, i am going death con three on jewish people. >> the top ten worst antisemitic comments last year and you put this -- why? >> no question, when you see the reach of 20 west -- >> he's got a larger we then barges in the entire world. >> hashtag kanye's right was tweeted ten townsend times -- and potentially seen by more than two billion people. >> the business people that

have raped my people, that just happened to be jewish. >> but who is actually listening to him? then jealous is a former double acp author and civil rights activist. >> simply put, most black folks -- with a white supremacist. >> he's talking about nick fuentes, a holocaust denier who joined va for dinner with donald trump. >> now where danya west may be helpful perhaps is to reach young wightman. >> he was reached by white antisemites. >> they're 15 minutes of mainstream pain. they were gifted this amazing gift by the social influencer. >> but, one recent study also claims young black and hispanic respondents express antisemitic attitudes at about the same rate as right ault right responders. like these guys.

>> [crowd chanting] >> but the analysis doesn't reach a definitiveness conclusion about why. a teenager was reportedly arrested for dousing and orthodox jewish man on his way to pair on saturday. on snl, chappelle said that the -- canoe west was saying the quiet thoughts of. out >> the rules of perception, if they're black, that it's again. if they're italian, it's a mob. but if they're jewish, it's a coincidence and you should never speak about it. >> let's speak about it. jews were heavily involved in creating hollywood because they were barred for nearly every white-collar industry. by an antisemitic society. and today -- >> the best estimate i can find, israel. really. by 20% of managers, agents, executives and hollywood are jewish. >> there's no hard facts to back up that number. so we come up with the numbers

and we do find out that there are a disproportionate number of jews working in hollywood, just for arguments sake, just for arguments sake -- so what? >> if 20% of hollywood biggest wigs are jewish, 80% are not. >> so we don't even cast jews as jews. so where is the control? in the up coming movie gold up, helen mirren, wonderful actress, not jewish! >> in full, another black star, kylie rookie from the brooklyn nets, posted a link to an antisemitic movie. so to apologize -- >> i'm proud of my heritage and what we've been through. >> irving was suspended. >> being black in america is already hard enough. and for us to go with other ethics groups it's hard enough. it's hard enough being black. >> the majority of hate crimes in america race related it almost half of them target black people. >> i promised my life was

leading -- started by blacks and then joined by jews, or started by jews and joined by blacks. >> i'm still convinced to this day that blacks and jews have the natural alliance that needs to be re-connected. >> i'm bound to agree with that. >> yes, there is always pain on both sides. >> and, one thing that everybody can agree on is that hate is being spread on social media. whoever is posting it, whoever is reading it. and for proof of the growth of the problem, just look to new york city. hate crimes past five years, crimes against jewish people, way, way up. as the mayor says, the way goes new york owes the entire country. what can you saying is not new but he's spreading it to a wide audience. he is as they say these days an influencer. erin? >> thank you so much, nick watt. and thanks to all of you, cnn tonight with alison camera is next.

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