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survivors, across -- struck the area at the worst time imaginable, early in the morning, -- [speaking non-english] >> those are just two buildings, two of more than quake to the shocks and the turkish after side. nearly 4000 people are known to have died according to turkish officials and state media. the numbers climb with each new

update, nearly 19,000 marchers are said to be injured and. our national aid is -- this is cnn report from -- we've been watching crews there trying to make their way to a 14 year old child trapped in the wreckage of a two story building. they go as quickly as they can but it is delicate and dangerous work and other teams try stopped at one point to work out how to proceed. it is unclear what the team's condition is. we do know however that this is hardly the only such scene across the area. there are many. cnn's jomana joins us. what is the latest, jomana? >> anderson, utter, utter devastation across what is this massive earthquake zone that stretches across ten provinces in southern turkey.

and across the border into government controlled parts of syria as well as the rebel held northwest of their country. we are talking about a part of syria that you find some of the country's most vulnerable women and children who have been displaced several times over the past more than a decade of civil war. these are people who are entirely reliant on international aid. this is coming at a time when they have been facing very, very harsh winter, could not have happened at a worse time for the population. in northwestern syria as well as here in southern turkey as well. as you mentioned, earlier anderson, continuing to rise. the latest figures we have, more than 3800 people confirmed killed in both countries. the fear right now is that casualty figures are going to rise significantly in the coming hours and days. >> flatten in seconds, two aftershocks. the turkish tv crew reporting live during the makings of an apocalyptic scene. the republics are grabbing a young girl as the rubble and smoke settles around them. rescue efforts been aiming

immediately. in southern turkey, a young man trapped, desperation in his eyes and in the predawn darkness, a moment of joy. pulled from the wreckage, this was a residential building full of families asleep and their homes when the massive earthquake struck. >> i was sleeping when my wife woke me up. the quake was very severe and very scary. it took almost two minutes until the shaking stopped. >> as the hours go by, more rescues, hospitals also begin to overflow. reported deaths going up by the hundreds each hour. millions impacted. in syria, a father cries over his babies limp body. many children among the killed

and injured. it's unclear just how many are still trapped and how many have lost their lives. >> there are 12 families and no one managed to get out. they are all inside here. >> the white house lets have done this before. now pulling people out from under a very different disaster. so many in northern syria had very little yesterday. people will be left with nothing today. and turkey to haunt help with the needed. world leaders are pledging and deploying rescue teams. the search and rescue will stretch on for days. hope remaining as long as possible. >> hope remaining as long as

possible. >> the search and rescue will stretch on for days, hope remaining as long as possible. >> continue near the region. how hampered all these rescue efforts right now in turkey and syria? >> they are continuing, anderson, but as you can imagine it is nighttime here, it is dark, this is definitely slowing down the search and rescue operations that have been ongoing now nearly 4:24 hours. rescue workers are dealing with so many challenges, the weather of course, it is freezing, snowing. many roads are blocked, making it very difficult for them to access a lot of these areas. they have got low visibility being reported in some areas. as well, many, many challenges that they're facing. one of the issues we have heard from turkish officials is the fact that this is such a vast area that they have to deal

with. it is not contained in one province or two, we are talking about a large area. ten provinces, millions of people living in those areas across southern turkey. a very, very complex search and rescue operation of course. international aid and support that turkey has requested is beginning to arrive. we are hearing from aid agencies and syrians in northwestern syria, calling on international community also to act urgently and do more to provide support and assistance for these parts of syria that are in no way equipped to deal with yet another humanitarian disaster that is unfolding at moment. >> appreciate from instead will. joining us now, structural engineer, kit miyamoto who will be heading to turkey tomorrow to join a team from this

company that is already on the ground. kit, i appreciate you being with us. we are watching these rescues underway, we are seeing these buildings continue to collapse with aftershocks. we understand a 14 your child is trapped in one of them. can you explain just how, at this stage, search and rescue teams approach this? it seems like in a lot of places, it is not expert search and rescue teams, it is a local police, it is civilians trying to do what they can. >> exactly. this earthquake is a massive one. i'm talking about along the fault line, it exceeded 120 kilometers. it is a long area, big area if you can imagine. estimated almost 10 million to

almost up to 20 million people affected by the motion. we are talking about 15, 20% of the country affected by this. it is definitely a mass event. there is also the rule area. a lot of smaller, and reinforced areas, those are dangerous to. the extent of the damage in rural areas has not been seen yet. it will be a lot more coming up. -- >> when you see these buildings collapse, the only thing after the compare two is the earthquake in port-au-prince in haiti, estimates as high as 200,000 people killed in that. those structures were smaller, obviously a lot for construction. how do the structures here compare, how much of a problem is that? >> well, turkey does have one of the best engineers in the world. they are good, building the same as california. but the order stock for buildings, the building code change there in 1997. anything before that, 2000, they don't really meet the earthquake criteria. there is a risk of that.

also, it is about how the contractors and masons implement this on the field. there is definitely a lack of that in many cases. the estimation from our engineers is one out of ten buildings collapse, they actually are of newer construction. >> what do you expect to find in the countryside and how does, how long of an effort is this to try to recover people? >> well, this is probably the biggest natural disaster the turkish nation has experienced in many years. i think turkey is a strong country. we've a great engineer, but they definitely need our support. the international support, no doubt in my mind, and syria for sure. >> miyamoto, i'm glad you are heading over there. the best to you and everybody who is trying to help, we appreciate it. we turn now to the chinese spy balloon seen -- wreckage of it has started arriving in quantico, virginia two days after and after a two

shot it off the south carolina coast. that is only part of the picture. there is also the pentagon, claim that there were three others like it during the previous administration. several former officials, including john bolton disputed this over the weekend. a senior current official tells cnn that the intelligence community is prepared to brief key members of the former administration. some of them telling us that they need to be contacted. as for how those other instances went undiscovered until after the fact, commanding general used a phrase that you may not have heard before to explain it. >> i will tell you that we did not detect those threats. that is a domain awareness gap that we have to figure out. i don't go into further detail. >> for the details such as, exactly what a domain awareness gap is. it may be akin to a food park at, that is just a guess. the chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst joins us now. for more on what the fbi

analyst could learn. can you just walk us through what the fbi is doing right now a chronicle? >> when they bring these pieces and parts from 47 feet beneath the ocean surface, it goes to the marine base quantico where the fbi has its academy and lab. often away from all the other buildings is a very short complex called o t d. it is the operational technology division. these are the scientists, the engineers, the special agents, the electronics whizzes who actually build the fbi's most sophisticated surveillance equipment. what they will do is, they will

look at these parts and say, this is a piece of something that we recognize, this part fits with that part, this comes from something who's capability is x. what they're trying to do is, forensically put together what was on that balloon as the payload and what was it designed to do? >> the fbi has said, it is the size of regional jet. this is a huge thing. plummeting through the sky into the ocean, the damage has to be pretty extreme. >> pretty extreme, but not as extreme necessarily as it would've been if were shot down over some vast unoccupied place in montana. but here is where the police at oh td are going to make their money or not, earn their money or not. not just helping, they will have help from the nra, the national reconnaissance office, cia people, experts in chinese surveillance technology. but where they really earn their money is, they're able to find that piece where they have it intact enough or can repair enough to download data and see what was being vacuum got into those surveillance technologies and what was being sent back. >> i want to ask you, finally. you are on the program a couple of days ago talking about threats to the electrical grid, particularly from white supremacist groups or neo-nazi

groups. we just got news now that there was a power plot grid, being described as a neo-nazi leader, i'm not sure how much of a leader he has. and some some woman from maryland who he was linked with, their plan to attack electrical substations to quote completely destroyed the entire city and that would spark some sort of a race war that white people would then take over according to them. >> this is literally everything we were talking about on this broadcast fired a night come to fruition. this was a real profit won by a leader who used to run the division, now it is been renamed as something else. >> i imagine it is relatively small. >> relatively small, but they operate online so they are not all in one place, and not altogether. but they get acolytes in these chat rooms in the darkest corners of the internet and he finds her, she finds him, they find a third imaging jules who turns out to be an fbi source, but they're talking about hitting multiple substations, doing the kind of damage to equipment in their planning that would take months to a place. they're hoping to plunge baltimore into a blackout that is going to redo looting, riots,

and a race war. all of the things that come in the documents that are the playbook for this. and it is just becoming a theme of this kind of right wing accelerationist, neo-nazi movement online. >> the timing was incredible, john what, thank you so much. coming up next, a look ahead to tomorrow night's state of the union speech, the accomplishments that president biden will point you. nearly two and three americans do not see this. later, new developments in the general election for george santos. days after the new allegations surfaced. the one single digit accomplishment he can point to when it comes to his job approval numbers. power e*trade's easy-to-use tools like dynamic charting and risk-reward analysis help make trading feel effortless and its customizable scans with social sentiment

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joining me now, political containers from across the political deck from, scott jennings, jeff duncan, former republican governor of georgia. so karen, what is the problem? [laughter] why is no one since doing that. >> it's a couple of things. number one, i think folks are fatigued and a lot of the things that we in washington think resonate with people who don't necessarily connect in their daily lives. they don't necessarily always see it right away. but that is part of why the president is going to talk about it. we call this the informed vote. we see this in polling and focus groups when you talk about what he is done. actually, then the number start to change. that is why we are going to get a laundry list. i know you wanted a short speech, but it's not happening. >> does this change anything? does anyone remember state of the union except for folks on cable news? >> the one line of the state of the union that i remember is bill clinton once saying, the era big government was over.

a pivot back to the middle. because they had lost in 94, he was preparing to run for reelection. and so, that is why and waiting to see if biden recognizes the problems that he has. 60% of the american people think he has done very little, 60% of his own party doesn't even want him to run again. they want somebody else to for the nomination. obviously, is not a failure to connect with everybody, it is a failure to connect with his own people. i want to see how he responds to that. they have got serious underlying political problems that they seem to be scrambling for a way to fix. >> i don't think a pivot is necessary. i think that what you are going to see is a president who has been very successful in his first two years in office. that success actually showed itself at the ballot box in november. unlike bill clinton who got molly walked in midterms, or barack obama who got beaten. the only thing i remember is joe wilson, that wasn't even a line from a speech, that was a member of congress. i do think you're going to get a laundry list. one of the things that this

white house reminds me of the obama white house is that you have to do a better job of communicating your successes. i'm not harping on becomes department per se, but what i'm saying is, more democrats would say, there is not a correlation between him not running for office again by democrats and his success. there are people who don't want him to run for office that think he has been an awesome president of the united states. they have to get out there and share that message. i think the state of the union hopefully is the beginning of a campaign, maybe not to run for office again, but at least two -- >> governor, if no one thinks that he has accomplished much in the last two years, given the makeup of the house. how much is he going to feel able to accomplish in the next two years? >> those numbers are horrible. there's no way to describe those as optimistic. but i think there's a disconnect. it doesn't feel like joe biden has been successful, even though the other side of the aisle for me sees all the successes. it is because i think america has a hard time figuring out how he actually makes his

decisions. it starts although it with afghanistan. it seemed like a rash isolate decision that was under informed, even as we go through this morning, watching this balloon incident. i don't want to quarterback and forgot were to shoot that thing down at, but i feel like the commander-in-chief should have communicated to america who's wondering, what in the world is going on? communist chinese government has a balloon going uncontested across our country. trying to figure out the rationale behind the decision making, i think it is really, really plugging him. >> i think he is almost, in some ways, a victim of success. we want him because we wanted it back to normal. imagine if we spent 24 hours of donald trump tweeting every ten seconds about the balloon. we would all be at the office right now, we would be so on edge. i think to some degree, i spent my first holiday with my family this year. we have not been able to see each other because of covid. we forget what it was like when he took over. that's a good thing. >> there's a logjam in the next few years in the house, is that

actually go to help? >> i would underscore the fact, i think people forget this sometimes, many of his largest successes were actually bipartisan. i'm not as afraid of this house. i think this house is an organized, i think kevin mccarthy is yet to be proven to be a leader. but you talk about the inflation reduction act. you talk about the infrastructure bill, you talk about the things, or the covid relief packages, the things that he has been able to do in a bipartisan fashion are his biggest pieces of legislation. when people will feel it, that is a question for a later day. >> karen, i've a question for you. why do you think it is that donald trump was beating joe biden in this abc news washington post poll? if everything is going great and he's doing everything bipartisan, and everything he says is true, why do you think it is that after everything we have seen other trump, which admittedly some of it is really terrible, he is beating joe biden right now. >> why do you think it is? >> is that a rhetorical question? >> i want to know.

my views are that he got elected president because he was not bernie sanders and he was not on trump, his job was essentially to bridge us out of that era. that is it. >> which done quite well. >> now, the country wants change, generational change. they don't want him, frankly i don't want they don't want him or trump to run for reelection, which was borne out in the polling. if it's so good, why are they planning for trump again? >> here's the thing, we just had an election, we just had an opportunity for people to vote. they overwhelmingly said we would like democracy, we would like freedom, we don't actually want extremism. the republicans control the house by a very thin margin because a lot of districts are gerrymandered. it was not this whopping -- >> they did win the national whopping vote. >> they said they did not want donald trump, that was a huge mandate. we have to talk about the 800 pound gorilla in the room. joe biden is going to be 86 at the end of his second term. there's a wait to that. i don't think any company looks to hire executives or leaders with that type of age.

certainly, that weighs on people all across the country, across both sides of the aisle. >> we flip side of that is, the front runner until you all change your party nomination process is still trump. to answer your question directly, the united states of america doesn't want joe biden or donald trump to run for office. period. that is just where we are, people don't want to people -- but i think when we are talking about tomorrow, in the job of the past, from tomorrow backwards, joe biden has been an extremely effective president of the united states. can he sell that as someone who is an older individual? that is a question that we will just have to answer. i would say, if it's old versus new, then new will win out, whether not that new is wrong desantis or whether or not that new is -- but the fact is, if it is donald trump versus joe biden, i take down trump 14 out of 14 times. >> i think there is an interesting development starting on both sides of the aisle. the profiles of governor are

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>> we health -- for george santos, a sign it is beginning to look into one or more of the many allegations involving his biography and finances. it comes as a staffer named eric myers says he is filed police reports against santos, accusing the long island republican of sexual harassment. according to the house ethics complaint, he says he touched his inner thigh and quote proceeded to touch my groin. national politics reporter eva mckend joins us now with the latest.

what essential saying about all this? >> anderson, he is emphatically designing the allegation. derek myers came to santos's office from ohio where he wa s working as a local reporter. meyers was charged with wiretapping last year after he published audio recorded by a source in a courtroom, that case, it is still ongoing, but that is what santos made reference to today in his denial. suggesting that this is someone who is aggrieved essentially because they didn't get a job. let's listen. >> any part of that -- [inaudible] >> it is comical. >> do you deny the claim that is against you? >> of course i deny the claim against me. let me make it clear, if there was any part of that was true, he should not have begged for

job. being accused of exactly what he did to us. >> so you deny it? >> 100%. >> meyers did in fact take the conversation with santos and provided the recordings to the news website talking points memo. but that sexual harassment allegation is not in any of the public material from the site. we here at cnn haven't been able to independently verify that recording. meyer says that he filed a police report and anderson, as many of our viewers know, it is illegal to file a false police report. >> do you know if the house ethics committee is going to launch an investigation into these allegations? >> we don't anderson, not at this stage. the house ethics committee, they are a bipartisan group that takes their work seriousl y

and has a long-standing policy of not commenting. i did speak with a government ethics expert later this evening, he told me that this is a serious allegation that he believes the committee will in fact investigate. i'm learning a little bit about how this would work. he told me that they would interview the congressman and then they would try to interview witnesses if there were any. and then there is this separate issue of him, the complainant, working in the office for free as a volunteer under the guise of eventually getting a job. that was his understanding. that ethics expert telling me that it is not clear that that arrangement was above the word. that may be something that the committee has to look into as well. >> is congressman santos attending the state of the union tomorrow? >> it sure seems that way. congressman santos says he has invited michael one stop, a volunteer firefighter who is at the world trade center on 9/11 and suffers from neuropathy related to toxic exposure.

this would not be a head-scratcher in any other case. especially for a member representing new york. but santos repeatedly claimed his mother was at the twin towers on 9/11 and that her exposure to toxins played a role in her death. cnn found that immigration records show that his mother was not even in the country at the time. why he would raise this issue in the context of his apparent lie on this matter about his mother, anderson, that is truly puzzling. >> eva mckend, i appreciate it. joined now by harry with some polling data that doesn't paint a good picture of the embattled congressman. people are doing polling, what is a show? >> i have a general rule of politics. you can get 10% of americans to agree on anything. 10% of americans think the u. s. fake the moon landing. worse george santos favor rating among his old

constituents? it is 7%. it is 7%. that seems hard to me. no, no, no, no. >> it does. >> -- >> i think he's doing a great job. >> i'm sure you could find some percentage of people who are pathological liars. i don't think about is a high one. i think the fact that there are fewer constituents in new york who have a favorable view view of him than americans who think he faked the moon landing is a pretty good indication that we are actually below the mendoza line of american politics re-can get 10% of americans to basically -- >> if you had a sense of shame or cared about what the district thought, he might resign, from looking at those poll numbers. >> they also asked in that particular poll, do you should resign? 78% of his constituents said that yes, he should resign. i made a cause historical conversant of other politicians and whether or not voters thought that they should resign at the time of the scandals. where you can see essentially is that santos at 78% is higher than richard nixon was in 1974. he was in the 60s. higher then elliott spencer was back in his scandal, back in 2008. and higher than anthony weiner was back in 2011. >> what phase of the anthony

weiner scandal was that? >> that was taken after we found out some initial stuff, it was before he resigned, it was not of course during his mayoral bid. that was a bid in which he ended up in the single digits. but the fact was that obviously is a scandal of a different level. the thing about the desantis scandal, every single day it seems like there's a line coming out. it almost seems like a lot today. >> the salado focus in new york where he is representing, allegedly representing a district. what about the rest of the country, is there a lot of interest in that? >> that's interesting to me. we are in new york right now and obviously, event was in washington d. c.. i was wondering, is this sort of a beltway story. but, we can get a pretty good idea from google searches where people are searching for george santos, whether not is in new york. as it turns out, 92% of the searches for george santos are outside of new york state. >> that is interesting. >> it gives you an indication

that in fact there are a lot of people. >> only 8% of them are in new york, i wonder if people in europe are like, enough of desantis, we hear about this all the time. maybe outside, less. >> i think the fact that we had that previous slide that showed all the scandal laden politicians in new york, i think -- >> they were all new york politicians. >> richard nixon did end up living in new york. >> that's true, he did. harry, always a pleasure. >> thank you. >> just ahead, the latest in the double murder trial of alex murdoch, a big setback for his defense, plus testimony from the only witness who saw murdoch around the time of the murders. we will be right back. i have sleep apnea. couldn't use cpap. now i have this.

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murdoch on the night of the murders and that he made her quote, nervous. randi kaye has more with that. >> was it unusual to see alex murdoch at that residence, that time of night? >> yes, on my ship, yes. >> this woman is the only witness who saw alex murdoch around the time of the murders. michelle shirley smith work as a caregiver for alex mother and says alec came to his mom's home sometime after 9 pm on june 7th 2021. that would've been shortly after the state says maggie and paul murdoch's phones ceased all activity. meaning they were likely dead. alex mother had alzheimer's, smith said his mother was sleeping that night and that it was unusual for alec to come visit her so late. smith recalled alec state about 15 to 20 minutes. despite that, she says she told her the next day unsolicited that he was there much longer than that. >> just to be clear, what was

the statement that he said about how long he was here? >> 30 to 40 minutes. >> his face was, i was here -- >> i was here, 30 to 40 minutes. >> was either 30 to 40 minutes that night? >> not to my knowledge. >> smith tried on the stand as he shared how that conversation with alex made her so nervous, she called her brother to tell him about it. she seemed to suggest that alec was sending her a message to say, he was there longer the night of the murders. she also describes for the jury how alec seemed fidgety. the defense pushed back. >> is his normal behavior kind of fidgety? >> yes. >> smith told the jury days after the murders that alec returned to his mother's house around 6:30 in the morning with what looked like a blue tarp. >> something like this? what did it look like? >> like a blue tarp, a blue tarp.

>> blue? >> blue. >> was it vinyl? >> it was a tarp that you put on a car to keep your car covered up. >> did he say anything when you walk in? >> no. >> what did he do when he walked in? >> went upstairs. >> the prosecution argued in opening statements that investigators recovered a blue raincoat at alex mothers home, which had gun residue on it. the special agent which led the division told the jury that she found a blue raincoat tucked away in a closet at his mother's house. >> you located a blue rain coach in the coat closet on the second floor. when you found it, it was balled up like this. >> that is correct. >> still, the defense injected some doubt. getting smith, the caregiver, to confirm that she thought it was a tarp, not a raincoat. >> it was not a rain jacket, was it? >> no, it wasn't. >> it was a blue tarp.

>> yes. >> the defense also pointed out that the blue item, whatever it was, did not have a gun wrapped inside it. such as a murder weapon which would have left gunshot residue, but the caregiver notice more about alex the night of the murders. >> did you observe anything about his face? anything on his face? >> he had -- >> man, i apologize, what? >> a little bruise or something. >> where was it? >> above his forehead. >> what you can see on alex was blood. >> did alec murdoch have blood on his clothes? >> no. >> did you have blood on issues? >> no. >> you get blue blood on his hair? >> no. >> randi kaye joins us now. so, if alex murdoch didn't have blood on him when he went to his mom's house, what would that mean necessarily? >> well anderson, based on the >> well anderson, based on the timing, he likely went to his mom's house after those murders

had already occurred, so it could mean if you can have blood on him that he really wasn't there at the time of the murders as he has said. or it could mean, as the prosecutors have suggested, that he washed up and change his clothes. after allegedly killing his wife and son. now we know from the caregiver at the mom's house that he was wearing shorts anyway t-shirt when he showed up there, which is different than the clothing that he was wearing just about an hour before the murders happened to occur on that snapshot video that his son paul had sent out. the jury will have to decide which one they believe on that. but also anderson, that just one note on that blue raincoat, the witness who oversaw all of the testing of the gunshot residue on that raincoat, she's going to take a stand tomorrow, she will likely say that there was gunshot residue on the rink out as the prosecutor has already said in his opening

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