tonight, we have new details about other chinese spy balloons over the united states in the past. just like the one that was shot out of the sky by fighter jets over the weekend. >> they just shot it. see the smoke coming from it? >> cnn got an exclusive look at an intelligence report from last year that showcased chinese spy balloon sightings during the trump administration.

one balloon circumstnavigated t glove, drifting pass hawaii and florida at an altitude about 65,000 feet. this is what jake sullivan told kasie hunt about that discovery. >> because the intelligence community made this a priority at the direction of president biden, we enhanced our surveillance of our territorial air space. we enhanced our capacity to be able to detect things that the trump administration was unable to detect. and we were also able to go back and look at the historical patterns. and that led us to come to understand that during the trump administration, as you said, there were multiple instances where the surveillance balloons traversed american air space and american territory. >> okay. let me bring in our guests now. cnn analyst, john miller.

errol lewis and scott jennings and shawn. i want to understand. help us understand how the intel community can enhance their detection process and look into the past to see how many balloons floated over years ago. >> yeah. it's clear to understand why it might be confusing. a lot of people are asking this question and wondering, if we had the information, how is it that the intelligence community was only able to produce a report last year that revealed these balloons flew over the united states. i think there's a pretty good answer to that question. when a new administration comes in, it's not unusual for them to sit down and take a hard look at the advasaries and look at a time when were out of office. they look at finished

intelligence reports. the intelligence that's been analyzed and summarized for the president. but they also go back and look at raw intelligent. i will tell you every time we look at raw intelligence, we look at something we didn't know before. what we may be talking about is a situation that we had not analyzed the intelligence that would have revealed that the spy balloons flew other the united states. we had more intelligence than we had analysts to look at this stuff. it's possible we didn't see it. >> that's interesting, shawn. in other words, there was too much intelligence and maybe it was an oversight. is it necessarily that the intelligence community did wrong during the trump administration? or do some things just have to fall through the cracks? >> i think shawn is on target. we served at the same time in the national director of intelligence's office. sometimes these are processes.

you'll find what the signature is and it's a balloon. where is it crossing over? our own nor-com uses the same madle, the gear, to do loitering, direction of intelligence on the border. we had to figure out, do we know what this is? "b," are you sure that's not us? "c" what can we learn about it? overtime, they figure out these are chinese products on big balloons that are gathering and sending information in real-time. and you get the analysts and the ngo and the nro and everybody and they put together a report. >> errol, what's amusing, if anything, we talk a lot about all of the high-tech ways that china could be infiltrating in terms of cyber attacks and tiktok. this is as old-school, low-tech, as it gets.

>> been around since 1783 and the french revolution. they've been using balloons for intel. >> is that -- i don't know how to make of that? is that comforting? is it not comforting that we still miss it sometimes? >> it's comforting that we have an open enough system that people can acknowledge when there's a problem. that the intelligence community can tell the military folks, here's something you missed. we have a problem here. for them to acknowledge on national television, we didn't know this was happening. think about what the comparable action is in beijing. heads are rolling and that may be a literal statement. we have this problem, when 18th century technology is evading our cyber defenses, there's a time for a reset and a chance to look at this over again. >> scott, why are you giving me that eye? are you skeptical? >> no. >> do you think that the biden

administration should have taken steps to shoot it down sooner than it did? >> that certainly -- whether we detect these things. i think it's good that we acknowledged we missed them before. that's a good thing for people to know. i think the biden administration wasn't going to acknowledge it at all, until a newspaper in montana figured it out. >> let me challenge you on that i think biden was briefed on tuesday. we broke it on thursday. that's 48 hours. you wanted him to tell the american people -- can't presidents think about anything for 48 hours about what they're going to disclose? >> by the way, what good do we do? everything we learn, shouting it out to everybody in the world, while we're trying to figure out what action to take or not take. >> it was over american soil and people could look up and see it. that's a big question whether you should disclose. the big debate and the ongoing political debate, is whether

they should have shot it down earlier than they did. that's the ongoing political embarrassment for boiden is tha this sat over the united states for a few days. >> the argument was they had to wait for it to be over water. the debris does scatter about six miamis. >> if we picked it up over the aleutian islands in alaska -- there's a lot of country, ain't too many people. a lot of trees and animals and birds and that's it. i'm just saying. i'm not here to second-guess everybody. the average person looks at this and says, we let the thing fly all the way over the united states before we took action? >> i have to be contrarian here. i've been listening to that since it crossed in from canada. and you have to think about this like an intelligence officer. is it a threat? no. we have intelligence reporting. we've seen it before. we know what it is. now, there's two things to do.

one, it's a threat because it's gathering intelligence. but nobody disagrees it didn't see anything they can see from the satellite. it can last longer and look closer. and the key is, what is the advantage of letting it go? if you're thinking of it as anan intelligence officer, it's their collection platform. can we get its telemetry. >> can we still do that? >> we can pick up the pieces. it's going to otd, operation technology division. they will put the preisses together and see what they recognize because this is the time stuff they build there. the key is, will they be able to find something, collected data that can be repaired or downloaded. that's why it's a collection platform. if it's here, let's take advantage of it.

>> shawn, do you have any thoughts, if the intel community could shoot it down earlier? and if they will be able to glean valuable stuff now that it's in the ocean in a million pieces. >> on the question of shooting it down earlier, as john said, we had to stop and think. anyone who is saying shoot first and ask questions later, not only is it true that we would ask questions that we didn't consider the ramification for people on the ground. when we think about shooting this down, we want to be able to collect as much information about it as possible. so, where we should it down matters. i think what people have to understand is that this balloon did not traverse across the united states without the u.s. government, putting efforts in place to protect sensitive information. that was the misnomers that we let this fly across the country

and collect information. we learned something about china's trade craft. i think one of the things we should note, one of the things in the intelligence community, is that we prepare for the possibility that some of our sensitive technology might find its way into the hands of others. it will be interesting to see once the chinese realize this balloon wasn't coming home, whether they took measures to protect whatever information was being sent back or the technology in the balloon. >> thank you very much. thanks for all of the different perspectives. now to this. people in one atlanta neighborhood are waking up to their driveways being littered with anti-semitic fliers. what is driving the rise in hate? what are they doing about it?el, and effortlessly responds to both of you. our smart sleepers get 28 minutes more restful sleep per night. proven quality sleep. only from sleep number. hi, i'm lauren, i lost 67 pounds on golo.

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woke up on sunday to find ae anti-semitic images on flyers waiting in their driveways. one was georgia respective esther panners. tell us what happened when you went to your driveway and what those looked like? >> my sunday went to get out the newspaper. he came back in and told me there were some anti-semitic material at the bottom of our driveway. i put on my jacket. went to go look. sure enough, there were three p packages, and there was unpopped corn kernels and vile flyers insidebaggy. >> why are there corn kernels in there? >> i don't subscribe logic toish

rational behavior. i have no idea. >> what were your thoughts when you discovered those? >> i had heard this was happening in other nakeds neighs over the last few months. it was my turn. my neighborhood and my turn, and i called the police. made a report and i texted my neighbor to see if it happened to her home. found out she wasn't in town. i put it on socialmedia. a dispatcher told me they had been receiving reports in sandy springs. i heard it was in our neighboring community, in dunwoody. and had heard it was in neighboring counties in the months before. i was surprised.

i was resigned that it was happening in my neighborhood. and angry. >> of course you were. do you know how many people receive things like this? >> no. only anecdotally. i don't have the numbers from law enforcement. my husband went to take our dogs for a walk later in the day and saw about 50. 50 in our neighborhood. we didn't take a formal count but it was a lot. i would say hundreds over the last few months. >> after you discovered it, you tweeted out, welcome to being a jew in georgia, my driveway this morning. sandy springs police department came and took for testing. govern yourselves accordingly, ae anti-semites in the state of georgia. you say welcome to being a jew in georgia. meaning something like this has happened before? >> it had been happening before. it was happening over a period

of months. but anti-semitism is rising in georgia. that's one of the reasons i decided to run for office. there would be no jewish rechre representation in georgia if i hadn't run. and incidents had been rising. extremism had been rising. if i wasn't going to do anything about it, someone had to. it was going to be me. we have to put our foot down. we have to stop it. we know, as jews, what happens, when people don't stop it. so, it's not just up to us to stop it. we're not big enough to stop it, k numerically. >> do you think it's jdl behind this? >> that's who is written on the flyers. i don't want to give them notoriety because they thrive on it. these are organizations. these are not kids doing one-off

things. these are organizations that try to recruit members into their hate groups in order to terrorize and intimidate jewish people. a friend of mine texts me that her holocaust survivor father received this. can you imagine? someone who survived the nazis has to deal with this in their home? how often is that? we have to try to put a stop to it. georgia is actually on the cusp of hopefully passing a bill to defy anti-semitism. we have no definition for anti-semitism in georgia. 30 other states have defined anti-semitism. in georgia, if you commit a crime -- a crime, not speech. but if you commit a crime, and it happens to be against a jewish person, and you express intent, to do it against a

jewish person, there's no definition of anti-semitism. if they do it, and did it because they were jewish, they can say it was against the ethnicity. something that happened in israel that this person had nothing to do with. that's a defense. until quewe can define anti-semitism, we can't protect jews. >> in your tweet, you say, i'm coming for you with the weight of the state behind me. are you? what does that mean and look like? >> to me, that means, if you commit a crime against jews, motivated of d hatred against j you'll get targeted of a crime.

if you're going to target jews because they're jews, you will get punished for it. there will be enhanced punishment. if you're going to discriminate against jews, you will be punished for it. >> the fact that you are the only jewish member of the state legislature, should we be surprised by that? >> i'm underrepresented. jewish people are underrepresented in georgia. representation matters. we need more voices in government. every minority group deserves to have representation in government. at the moment, we're underrepresented. while i'm alone, and it's a little lonely, i'm not really alone. we have allies. today, i addressed the house of representatives. normally a few people come up and stand with whoever is

speaking in solidarity. today, most of the house came up and stood with me. it was amazing. and the speaker gave a passionate speech to say everybody stands with me. so many people started to come up, the speaker asked people to stay behind so i would have someone to speak to. it was really overwhelming the amount of support and love that i got from my colleagues, who are all lawmakers. it was something to say about how far georgia has come in the last century because it wasn't always so friendly to jewish people. >> i'm comforted and heartened to hear about the support you had in speaking today. thank you for that story. and obviously, we'll be watching closely what happens in georgia. >> thank you so much. >> esther panitch.

and scott jennings and john miller are back with us. it's not just georgia. i will pull up a graphic we have of some of the anti-semitic incidents across the united states. there were flyers in the atlanta suburbs. and banners on the los angeles freeway. there was a projection in jacksonville, florida, on the side of a building, saying kanye was right, meaning about the jews. and a molotov cocktail at a synagogue john 29th. emma, you see this as part of a larger piece, with the resurgence of white nationalism. >> certainly. as a jewish person, you grow up saying that anti-semitism is foreign and far away in time and place. the hear the words, welcome to

being a jew in georgia is terrifying. it's important that we step back and understand the broader phenomenon that's contributing to this. anti-semitism is part and parcel in part of a white nationalist movement. there's extensive research, that seventh semitism is fueled by the growth of this group that's been emboldened in recent years. there's a hate crime that occurred every hour in the u.s. there's been a 100% growth of hate groups in the last 20 years in the country. when we see the visible ma manifestation of hatred against jews, what is going on with white supremacy at large. >> it feels overwhelming. just in the united states, this must be daunting.

we saw this creep up a few years ago with identity europa and groups like that. they were doing flyering in jersey city and staten island, with anti-semitic messages. we're thinking this is new york in 2018, 2019, where is this coming from? the qanon movement that is alive online with hundreds of thousands of followers, anti-semitism and jewish tropes flow through that, as part of the theme there. you had the unite the right rally in charlotte. all these faces, marching with torches. we're in the new millennium that this is happening. at the time the president of the united states of america, said there were good people on both sides, after someone rammed

their car into the anti-white supremacist protesters. and you fast forward to the other day. and you have nick fuentes, an avowed holocaust denier at mar-a-lago breaking bread. it's not just a trump thing. but it's a movement that is getting approval at levels of the government and society that really validates it in a scary way. >> i don't know if that's what lit the stick of dynamite, but it didn't help extinguish it. >> you have to throw in kanye, a cultural crossover that throws you for a loop. >> the anti-semitic incidents, 221,000 incidents. that's a 34% increase year or year. in terms of the tropes that john

was talking about. in 2019, 61% of respondents believed one jewish trope. now, 85%. and six or more, 11%. now, 20%. what do you think is happening here and what is the answer? i don't know what the macro answer is. i know what the microanswer is. any one of us, in our lives, when we interact with people, who need to hear the truth, have the spresponsibility to tell it. we have to not interact with people that are spreading this. and that's what donald trump did when he had a meal with a white nationalist. we have a microresponsibility. i don't know if that will add up to the macro solution. it is global. i was reading a report about a jewish government.

they put out about the rising anti-semitism in europe, in germany and france. it is not just the united states. it's not history. this is real. it's happen right now. when you have groups of people who can communicate with each other all over the world, it can spread rapidly and it's extremely dangerous as we've seen from these things in the united states. it's extremely worrisome. everybody in our political spectrum has responsibility here. we're going to tell you how the justice department tells this neo-nazi leader and a woman tried to destroy baltimore. new reporting on this.

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a neo-nazi and maryland woman charged tonight with what the d.o.j. is calling a racially motivated plot to, quote, completely destroy the city of baltimore. federal authorities allege that they were going to attack substations. ex experts warn that extremist groups are targeting facilities as their targets. what do you have on what happened here? >> as we reported last week, on cnn, we've seen a big increase in 2022 on attacks on power stations, substations, across the country. >> i think 25 confirmed attacks on power facilities in 2022. >> right. some are gunfire, sniper, sab sabotage, vandvandalism.

they are putting out playbooks saying we've got to bring down the power grid. if we hit the right eight or nine places we can have a cascading collapse, that will plunge the united states into a prolonged blackout they hope is a catalyst for the beginning of riots and looting and things the government can't fix and the race war. and finally, the fall of society, and there rise to white power. but the new development today is the arrest of brandon russell, the former head of the -- now, the leader of the new socialist order. he was on supervised release from his conviction after a plea of guilty for possession of explosives and threatening to blow up the power grid in florida, when he found sarah beth clendaniel, who conspired with him. and a source online, to attack

power plants around baltimore to plunge the city in blackout. >> maybe we should give them longer prison sentences so they're not on supervised release to do this. this affects all of us. it's scary. they are targeting these things. they may not be the brightest people but they are -- it's working. they are attacking the power grids. >> they are. and they are trying to flow with terrorism and mayhem. we may think it's remote because they appear to be idiots, but the reality is, a blackout can cost billions of dollars in of damage. that can happen because of a lightning strike. it's time to talk to florida power & light, pg&e, con edison, all of the private power companies that provide 65% of the power in this country and tell them you have a new expense. you have to go to the rate

payers. maybe you go to the government. maybe you go to your hedge fund, the sovereign wealth funds. but you have to harden the facilities. you cannot just leave substations out there for the nazis to take shots at. >> and just to key off of errol, there's 64 power stations with 65,000 substations, owned by 3,000 companies in 50 states, in 3,030 counties. none of them are regulated by a body that sets the standards. it's the weakest link in the china will be the risk. >> again, talking about nazis in 2023. it's hard to know where they get infected with the poison. are they angry people that are looking for someone to hate? or what is the sickness? >> we have to look at hate

crimes that have occurred in the last five years in this country. white nationalists weren't just given a hall pass in recent years, they were walking into the principal's office. look at what happened with tin sur rec the insectionists that went into the capitol. we they've are developing savvier tactics. baltimore is a predominantly black city. we're seeing the effects of the hatred at the highest levels of power in this country. >> they're being brought to justice. before that, they were given more than a hall pass and told they were good people. even on january 6th. they have been brought to justice. what happens to the attacks on power grids. this one, they just figured out and arrested and charged. others are more mysterious. >> the moore county attack,

where 45,000 people were without power for days, that's unsolved. the thing that was the catalyst for this was metcalf, california, in 2013. that was highly sophisticated. it's the model that were on the internet saying we have to exploit this and bringing it forward. >> we're going into a new era. there was a time when you could get on an airplane with a ticket with somebody else's name on it. we're well past that. we have a situation where five or ten years from now, it would be unthinkable we would leave so much of the grid exposed in this way. >> we have to mention. we just spent in the other block, the rise of anti-semitism as a key function of these groups. the power grid thin

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there's been a rash of animal tampering incidents at the dallas zoo, including the temporary theft of two emperor tamarind man kiss. police have arrested and charged one young man, zookeepers are worried that animals may be in danger. cnn's ed lavandera explains.

>> reporter: the apes are oblivious to the fact that their corner of the dallas zoo is a crime scene that garnered worldwide attention. for the humans at the zoo, it's been a month-long nightmare. the executive vice president of animal care and welfare is showing us where the mysterious break-ins, escapes, possible murder and animal abductions occurred. it started in this encloe schaar, that is home to four monkeys. they found a four-foot-high cut in the wire mesh. >> some of the climbing structure inside the habitat was broken and had collapsed. that made us think that a larger animal had been in here. >> reporter: none of the monkeys escaped. >> a lot of us went to dark places in our minds in the last month. >> reporter: you can almost picture whoever was in there was chasing these guys down. >> i can only imagine how scary that is for a person to be in

their space, who is trying to grab them. >> reporter: around the same time and two exhibited away, the clouded leopard habitat was open. a female leopard walked right out. >> a s.w.a.t. team rolled out here that mornout here that morning. that has to be terrifying. >> a s.w.a.t. team heard leopard and thought hleopard-leopard. >> reporter: two zoo employees found her. >> one said, why is that squirrel so pissed off. and there's a squirrel barking. down here, the leopard was curled up looking at them. >> down here? >> there's the curator who said why is the leopard so upset? >> reporter: the zoo's curator called for help. >> a chase ensued. >> reporter: she is safe and sound now. >> at first, we thought isolated

incident. somebody tried something and failed. >> reporter: it was just the beginning. a vulture named pin was found dead. dallas police said the rare bird was wounded. and last week, two emperor tamarind man kiss were taken from the zoo. >> a huge cut here. >> the one-pound monkeys were found in this abandoned house about 15 miles away. zoo officials say the monkeys were unharmed. the last incident allowed them to arrest a man with six counts of baltimorery and two counts of burglary to a building. but investigators say he is not charged in connection with the death of the as a vulture. the fascination is fewed by shows like "tiger king" and social media influencers, creating an underground world of

exotic animals as pets. >> it's a massive problem. the globally, the illegal pet trade is again driving many animals towards extinction. and we think of it as an other world problem. this is an opportunity to let meme pea that animals need to be help alone in their homes. >> it doesn't help that social media influencers are showing kids that it's cool to have this thing in my house. >> that might be one of the motivations here? that kind of influence? >> i do. i do. >> reporter: ed lavandera, cnn, dallas. here in new york city, z zookeepers are desperate to recapture an eagle owl named flacco. the bird escaped after the exhibit was vandalized. the owl has been spotted in central park and on nearby 5th avenue, as well. i may have solved the mystery. look at what was sitting on my

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amc theaters, america's largest movie chain, is changing the way they are pricing tickets. they will now be on seat location. seats in the front will be cheaper. and seats in the middle will cost more. what's so funny about that? >> and seats next to my children will cost the most. >> or be free. do you like this idea? >> i think it's -- if you show up at the movie theater, like i do, with five people in tow, and you end up in the first row, it's pretty miserable. i would pay a little more to sit higher. but also closer to an emergency exit. a number of times i had to take kids to the bathroom during the movie. it's a lot. i don't want to disturb everybody else. >> do you take your family to the movies? >> we go sometimes. when there's a big -- one of the kids big movies come out. it's not as much as i like to. i love movie theaters.

being able to go to the theater, you talked about it for a long time. >> it was an event. what i'm amused by, errol, is it so crowded this is going to work? when is the last time you had to sit in the front row of a movie? people aren't going to movie theaters right now. >> that's the point. they have squandered a great opportunity. they have made us go and wait on two lines. a line to get into the theater. a line for the food. you have to wait for the seat. it's a miserable experience. and a number of theaters have figured out if you let people pick their seat in advance, they will pay 40%, 50%, 100% more, to come in and have a decent experience. >> you like this idea. theaters have figured out, if you serve booze, you're really popular. do you go to the movies, emma? >> it's hard. when you have any movie you want

to watch from your couch and you can make your own snacks instead of spending your life savings on popcorn, it's hard to leave home. i feel for movie theaters. they had a triple punch of streaming. everyone having massive screens in their homes. and then, the pandemic. during the pandemic, people had the hierarchy of risk. i want to see my friends and go to work. but to see "top gun" i don't know. >> you pay less for the bleachers if you go to the sporting event. you can get standing room seats to stand in the back of a jazz club or a brozway theater. somehow they thought everyone would pay full price for the worst seats in the building. >> it did work for decades. here's what elijah wood had to say. the theater has been a democratic space for all and the price session would provide for

all. >> take out the bad seats. you have the theaters with the awesome reclining loungers and the lights go down. i would pay more to get a good nap. i have fallen asleep in the theater. i woke up refreshed. amazing. >> $15 nap, fine with me. >> the 15 bucks you spent. >> absolutely. we need a nap room. thank you for watching, everyone. our coverage continues now.

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