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>> translator: we are alive but nobody comes. we heard them. they are calling out asking for help. how can we rescue them? a oh, my gosh. the anguish. search and rescue teams race to save lives across turkey and syria. the death toll topping 5,000. countless people still trapped in the rubble and fighting to stay alive. also this morning we are live on capitol hill where president biden is going to make his case for a re-election, an announcement that's expected tonight. a recent poll shows most americans don't think he has achieved much. can president biden cut through
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the noise? we're going to speak to the white house communications director to get her view in a few moments. also, the faa will be in the hot seat on capitol hill after a series of travel meldowns after near collisions. we begin with the search and rescue operation in turkey and syria. more than 5,000 people are confirmed dead after yesterday's catastrophic earthquake. there are thousands upon thousands of collapsed buildings that still need to be searched. we have seen some moments of hope, though. this video of a small girl pulled from the wreckage alive. but many are still waiting for rescue. a warning now, you will likely find this video very hard to watch. >> that is a woman under a heap
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of concrete crying help, help. freezing temperatures have made the situation even more dire. our nick paton walsh is live on the ground in turkey near the quake zone. thank you for being there. this weather complicating all of these search and rescue efforts. >> reporter: yeah, poppy, we are heading closer to the epicenter of kahramanmaras where this struck essentially at two times. a significant aftershock of 7.5, a major earthquake, frankly, anywhere else in the world, hitting also in the same region. you can see some of the damage. the other side of the traffic, a constant flow of people, ambulances, heading out from this area. so hard to get some of the aid in. from istanbul a constant stream of ambulances, fire engines, excavations. the job is starting but under enormous time pressure. i'm standing here in brilliant sunshine but every once in a
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while we get a dense horizontal snowstorm that comes in that makes it hard for aircraft, very dangerous on the roads. these highways lined with smashed cars that have been in accidents on the way here. that's another rescue job for people to try to achieve. kahramanmaras the epicenter, as i said, significant destruction there. we'll see more of that in the hours ahead. also hatay significant loss of life there, too, and children being pulled from the rubble. this is the essential problem now. we have a small window for rescue services here in turkey where they knew something like this could happen, where they are prepared for earthquakes. while they have the resources and are getting help from outside the country, too, a small window for them to get into that rubble and take the most fragile out. this struck in the middle of the night, people asleep in their beds not wearing warm winter clothing. i'm freezing standing here. it's a delicate time, many hearts, frankly, on edge.
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that is potentially better news in turkey. you cross the border into syria where there's very little medical rescue infrastructure at all because of the brutal war there for a decade. the stories are significantly worse a. very dangerous few days ahead. >> we just saw the drone shots where the international rescue committee says because of the war only 45% of the hospitals are even operational right now. nick, thank you for the reporting. we'll come back to you later in the program. don? later today president biden will be making a trip to capitol hill to deliver his state of the union address. the administration saying that the president will be focusing on the progress made by his administration especially the economy. so let's talk about that, get a preview of it with kate bedingfield. good morning, kate. thank you for joining us on cnn "this morning." it's good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> let's talk about what is going to happen and people's perceptions because there is this new "washington post"/abc
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news poll finds that about two-thirds of americans feel president biden has not accomplished a whole lot in his first two years in office. perception is reality when it comes to public office. why aren't the american people feeling or seeing what the president plans, what the president is doing, and does he plan to talk about that tonight? >> well, absolutely he will talk about that tonight. you're going to hear from him tonight about the things we've accomplished in the first two years making a difference in people's lives. 12 million jobs created during president biden's first two years in office. historic low unemployment, wages going up, investments in our infrastructure, our roads and bridges, historic gun safety legislation. so, yes, the american people are going to hear directly from the president tonight about what we've accomplished in the first two years but also about the path forward, how we're going to keep building on that progress, how we're going to finish the job. people across the country, remember -- go ahead.
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>> why aren't the american people feeling that? is that the issue with the president? is that the communications office? what is going on? >> remember where we were when president biden came into office, in the depths of a pandemic, inflation was creeping up not just here but around the globe, and so the president took quick action, meaningful action to start rebuilding this economy from the bottom up and the middle out. the choices he's made have, again, led to historic job creation, historic low unemployment, and people are starting to feel that around the country. as the president would be the first to say and will say tonight, we're going to keep talking about what those impacts mean. over the course of 2023 and into 2024, people are going to start to feel the impact of some of the major legislation we've passed, the infrastructure law, the inflation reduction act that's lowering prescription drug costs and energy costs for people.
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pem ar people are going to feel the impact. they will fan out across the country. >> that's a look into the future. as of now on the economy, 41% of americans feel they are not as well off financially as they were when biden became president. is there a disconnect between the indicators the white house points to versus how people feel when they are grocery shopping or when they are paying their rent or paying their bills, kate? >> we've made huge strides in bringing costs down, but the president, as he always says, we have more to do. we have further to go. he understands the impact when you go to the grocery store and you're paying more for meat or milk or eggs. he understands the impact that has on your family. that's why when he makes choices about his economic agenda, he's thinking about how is it going to impact people around kitchen tables across this country. he grew up in a family just like that where you had to think about how were you going to make ends meet, how are you going to make it add up at the end of the
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month? he thinks about an economic plan and it's an economic plan that has made huge progress. again, we're looking at historic low unemployment. we're looking at 800,000 manufacturing jobs created in this country. making things in america again for the first time in a long time. so we've made enormous progress but there's certainly more to do. the president is relentlessly focused on bringing down costs and you'll hear that from him in a speech. >> something that may hurt that is that americans feel a major impact if we default on our debts and concerning the debt limit. is that -- he is saying he is not negotiable, nothing is negotiable, he will not negotiate the debt ceiling. do you think that's irresponsible? >> i think it is the responsibility of congress, as it always has been, to address the debt limit. speaker mccarthy and members of the republican caucus voted under president trump three times to raise the debt limit clean with no preconditions. so this is a constitutional
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responsibility of the congress. the president is not willing to make the full faith and credit of the united states a bargaining chip because the consequences of defaulting would have enormous impact on families across the country, a very destabilizing impact on our economy. no, the president is not willing to negotiate. that is congress' responsibility. however, the president is having a conversation, he met with speaker mccarthy last week and will continue to work with the congress. he is having a conversation about fiscal responsibility, about our priorities moving forward. he's going to release his budget march 9 and is asking republicans to put their plan on the table so we can hear where are the cuts they're proposing to make. are they propose to go cut social security, medicare, our national defense? so he wants to see their plan and he wants to have a conversation. under this president we've reduced the deficit, just one more point, $1.7 trillion under this president and his plans moving forward will continue to build on our economic strength
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while being fiscally responsible. that's the conversation he wants to have with congress. >> i want to get as much in as possible because we don't often have the opportunity to speak with you. i'm sure the president never anticipated he would be talking about a balloon traipsing across america. the shooting down near myrtle beach he said did not change his state of the union speech, or is he going to talk about that? that has a huge impact. everyone is talking foreign policy now with this very visual symbol of a balloon going across america. >> well, of course our relationship with china was always going to be in the speech. it is a key consequential relationship, one pillar of our foreign policy. the president has obviously worked to continue to manage our relationship with china to a place of competition and not conflict. i would anticipate that he will mention the events of the last week, but, again, the speech and the larger pieces about his foreign policy have not been
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reworked because of this balloon. now what i will say about the balloon is the president handled it effectively and with strength. we were able to capture intelligence on the chinese as the balloon passed across the country. the decision to wait to shoot it down gave us the opportunity to do that, to gather intelligence on them, and we were able to shoot it down in territorial waters where we could recover the payload, gather that intelligence, and there was no threat to the american people -- >> he's criticized for not shooting it down sooner. he's been criticized for not shooting it down sooner. you don't think that was a mistake? >> no, because we were able to gather more intelligence and more information. we were able to collect back on the balloon. we know more about chinese capabilities and trade craft as a result of that decision and then we ultimately shot it down and sent a very direct message to china that it was unacceptable. >> i have two quick things for you because we don't often talk about national security in terms of domestic terror. two people arrested and charged with conspireing to destroy --
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they wanted to further their neo-nazi goals. will the president talk about white supremacy or the threats of the far right domestic terrorism tonight? that is an important issue. >> and as you know, don, the president talks all the time about the need to strengthen and continue to fortify the soul of our nation. a piece of that is calling out white supremacy, calling out hate. as the president says, hate never goes away. it hides. we have to be vigilant about it. just yesterday we convened a meeting here that the second gentleman participated in, the chair of the domestic policy council, our security adviser and people across the administration to talk about the rise of anti-semitism and hate and violence across the country. and so this is something that the president has never shied away from calling out. he believes that silence is complicity. i would expect you will hear from him tonight about the need to continue to protect and
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fortify the soul of our nation. >> how will he address police reform? tyre nichols' family will be in the audience tonight. what will he do as it relates to police reform? >> you should expect to hear from him about police reform. he believes that we need more accountability in policing. he obviously across the course of the last two years has called for congress to send the george floyd act to his desk. when republicans in the senate prevented that from happening, he took action and put forth an executive order to increase use of force standards and, again, to increase accountability. so he believes we need -- that police need accountability. they also need resources to be able to do their jobs well, to be able to walk their beats, to know their communities so that the people in communities across the country who trust and rely on them can have that trust. so i would expect to hear from him about the need for police reform. >> kate bedingfield, we appreciate you joining us on cnn
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"this morning." >> thanks for having me, don. i appreciate it. >> join us for the address tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern. kaitlan? >> don, what a preview of the address that everyone is anticipating. as we wait for that, also this morning, a highly anticipated aviation safety hearing taking place here on capitol hill. it comes in the wake of widespread air travel issues including the faa computer outage that caused a nationwide ground stop. southwest airlines holiday meltdown and two near miss incidents. officials from the largest pilots union are expected to testify. you're wearing socks with airplanes on them. >> thanks. >> you are prime to cover this hearing today. in all seriousness, this has captivated the nation's attention. what are we expecting? >> the head of the ntsb will testify. she spoke to me yesterday and tells me the latest close call
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will likely take center stage when two planes almost landed on top of each other in austin on saturday. she says now they came within 100 feet of a disaster. she says a wake-up call for the entire industry. the newest case of a near collision on the runway comes as aviation leaders are assembling on capitol hill. investigators say before dawn saturday a fedex boeing 767 was about to land at austin's international airport as a southwest airlines 737 was told to take off from the same runway. the national transportation safety board now tells cnn the fedex crew aborted unprompted and started to climb averting disaster. >> fedex is on the go. >> it was very close and we believe less than 100 feet. >> ntsb chair is anticipating it will come up during tuesday's hearing on aviation safety t. comes three weeks after another near collision at jfk where a
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delta airlines flight abruptly stopped its takeoff as an american airlines flight taxied across the runway in front of it. [ bleep ] >> cancel takeoff plans. >> it's scary. i worry about the potential for a catastrophe. >> issues in the air are being met with issues on the ground from last month's faa computer system failure that paralyzed airports to southwest's holiday travel meltdown that canceled more than 16,000 flights. the u.s. travel association now says bad flight experiences are putting a damper on americans' travel plans. >> the operating environment is much more difficult. >> reporter: scott kirby predicts a rough year for aviation and says his airline is trying to control what it can. brand-new graduates from united's industry first flight school are now headed to new jobs. on their way to shore up pilot shortages at the airlines. >> the last generation of older
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pilots is start to go leave. our job is to back fill positions and keep the industry going. >> reporter: more people work at airlines before the pandemic. the pressure is on to keep the safety record clean. >> a great time of hiring. i'm very excited about that but we have to make sure that our focus is first and foremost on safety. >> reporter: all of this comes as congress is setting the faa's budget. that determines how much the agency can spend. and, kaitlan, never before has this been thrust into the limelight in such a big way. >> it's remarkable to see this hearing playing out. everyone will be watching it play out. thank you, pete muntean. poppy, back to you. something that stood out to us from the report pete gave us, how close the southwest jet and the fedex cargo plane were to colliding, less than 100 feet apart, 100 feet this is what that looks like. you see don and down the hallway
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our senior data reporter -- >> on the end here. >> but think about that. the distance is so short it fits in the walk from our control room to our studio about half the length of a cargo jet itself. there were 128 people onboard that southwest flight and they were that close. here they are to a collision. >> keep in mind we were walking -- imagine if you were on an airplane going a lot faster than that. it would freak me out. >> that's how close. what's the number? >> this morning's number is 100 feet. that was how close we were. i think the thing that sort of put in perspective, and pete was hinting at it, that is the second close call in the last month. it was 1,000 feet between that taxiing american flight and the taking off delta flight colliding at jfk. all of a sudden -- i was flying on friday. that's scary stuff if you're a passenger, right?
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what's important to put in perspective is that flying has become so much safer, in fact, over the last few decades. >> thank you for this. thank you. >> i want to bring comfort. >> to a nervous flyer. >> the early average back in the 1970s it was nearly 2,000. look at where we were in the 2010s. >> that's for the whole decade. >> that is the yearly average. so 422. that's worldwide. >> and private? >> this is worldwide. these are airliner fatalities on the average. in the united states we're significantly safer than we are, say, in some foreign countries. the key thing we're getting so much safer and the other thing that is so important compare it to other ways of traveling, the deaths per 100 million miles traveled. look at cars, 0.46. bus 0.04. airlines.0004. airline travel is the safest way to travel compared to anything
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else. when you're getting into a car you're much more likely to have a fatality than if you're going on an airline. >> perception versus reality as i just said can kate bedingfield. i'm so nervous about flying when you're in much more danger in a car. >> this is what the flight attendants tell me when i get nervous. thank you. thank you for that nice display, by the way. we are back here on capitol hill. i will be joined by the chair of the house oversight and accountability committee, james comer. we'll talk about the hearings set for this week and his questions about the chinese surveillance balloon that the u.s. navy is now recovering. [ coughing/sneezezing ] dude, you coming? alka-seltzer p plus powermax gels with more concentrated power. because the only thing dripping should be your style! plop plop fizz fizz with alka-seltzer plus.
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>> the u.s. military released new pictures of their recovery operations off the coast of the carolinas. where that suspected chinese spy balloon was shot down. here in washington republicans have criticized president biden and the pentagon for not taking action sooner. the administration and national security officials defended the move saying they were waiting to down it until they could do so safely over the ocean. joining sus republican congressman james comer of kentucky, the chairman of the house oversight and accountability committee which will be holding hearings on the border as well as twitter this week. we'll get to both hearings. on this downed balloon do you expect republicans will probe this and start an investigation? >> i do. we are concerned about our homeland security. we don't believe this administration takes homeland security very seriously. we will talk on our committee about the debacle at the southern border, the crisis at the southern border. our southern border is not secure. we're going to learn our northern border is not secure at
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our hearing today. and then we see this balloon just go through our entire airspace and planes have to be diverted. is our airspace secure? we have questions and hopefully will get some answers soon. >> one thing you said as we were learning about this balloon and tracking it, you asked on fox news is it bioweapons in the balloon? did the balloon take off from wuhan? we don't know anything about it. you have no evidence that it had bioweapons. >> i asked the question what is in the balloon. this is something the white house should have advised us on. they should have had a briefing to tell us what this was. back home in kentucky this is all anybody talks about was this balloon. no one trusts china. they know china is an adversary. my concern was the military had no idea anything about the balloon, what was in the
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balloon, was it a spy balloon? was it a weather balloon like china said? what exactly did the u.s. military know about this? what did our intelligence know about this? did they know it was even in our space before it got in the alaska airspace? a lot of questions and that was one of the questions for all we know it could have bioweapons. they could be testing -- >> you don't have any evidence. >> we asked the question because we don't know. we didn't know. we still don't know what was in the balloon. >> there are still questions about that, both parties want to know about that, so does the white house as well. there will be a briefing on thursday on capitol hill. you will, i imagine, be in the briefing. if you go into the briefing, and you have to be careful what you say coming out of that, and they say, no, there are no bioweapons, will you come out and make that clear publicly? >> i never said it was. i stayed for all we know it had bioweapons. we don't know anything about the
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balloon. there is a concern our federal government isn't securing our homeland. we know the southern border and the northern border are wide open. we know that criminals are pouring across the border with fentanyl, human traffic, increased crime in our cities. now is our airspace secure? are they making sure none of our adversaries are invading our airspace, are they trying to do anything, or was this simply a test by president xi to see if he could do it, to see what, if anything, joe biden would do, how would he respond? senator mcconnell suggested there were plenty of opportunities from his advisers, plenty of opportunities to shoot that down in rural areas in alaska or montana before it made its way across the united states including flying over fort campbell in kentucky. >> which is in your district.
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the one in montana as well. there are still big questions about that. you have a slew of hearings this week including one where you've subpoenaed three former twitter employees on thursday. you recently met privately on capitol hill with elon musk. what did he tell you? did he give you anything he believed should be asked that hearing on thursday? >> we talked a long time about the hearing. elon musk is a great american. thank goodness for elon musk. you think about the crises we're looking into in the house oversight committee with the twitter documents. we wouldn't nknow the governmen was involved in censuring conservative speech if not for elon musk being transparent and disclosing the twitter files. the thing troubling to mean is the fact that according to the emails and even zuckerberg implied this at facebook, the fbi was meeting regularly with the social media platforms telling them, be careful. this might be disinformation. this might be russian
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disinformation, even suggesting they ban people from their platforms. credible outlets like "the washington post," this is troubling. the government has no role in censuring speech. also, we wouldn't know the president mishandled classified documents were it not for a leak. this administration has not been transparent. >> it was reporti ing from cbs news. you implied they colluded to suppress the information, hunter biden's laptop. there's no evidence there was any directive coming from the fbi to twitter on that, so do you have any definitive proof, anything we will see on that? >> i would invite cnn to watch our committee hearing wednesday and see if you can pick up any new information. >> we will be watching but we've spoken to former twitter e exec executives, senior staff, who say there's no evidence of that. did elon musk suggest anything you should ask these former employees? did he share anything with you that he has not shared publicly?
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>> elon musk is very concerned about the government's role in big tech, the government's role in censuring speech. is it the fbi's role to have an agency of 50 people that does nothing but police social media? is it the fbi's role to use our tax dollars to pay twitter and facebook and google and the other platforms for their time so that they can meet every day to -- >> there are questions on disinformation especially after what happened in the 2016 campaign. you can say those are legitimate, right? >> there are always questions about disinformation. we have questions about disinformation. we are concerned about things dr. fauci said that we believe may have ended up in time being labelled as disinformation. so who makes the decision as to who determines what is disinformation and what is not? one thing that you may think is disinformation, i may believe is
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fact. who is going to decide? you or i? what we want to know is walk us through the policy. what was your policy to determine what is disinformation, and who are you seeking advice from? who in the government was advising you, and what were they saying? walk us through that. we want to get a picture of what the process was in censuring people. >> i understand you have a lot of questions. on hunter biden's team and the investigation there, his lawyers are asking state and federal prosecutors to basically pursue criminal investigations into people who disseminated his information. they say he's a private citizen. the information, they believe, was illegally passed around. have you spoken to his legal team yet? >> i have not. let's think about that. they spent two years denying that laptop was his. then it had been altered and now they're threatening to sue because the contents have been made public.
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i >> have you sent subpoenas to banks for his financial information? >> we are trying to obtain the financial information -- >> does that involve subpoenas? >> it will if we don't get the bank records from treasury. we shouldn't have to subpoena the banks for this information. this information prior to joe biden becoming president was readily available to the house oversight committee. he is blocking me from getting information that every one of my predecessors, republican and democrat, had access to under president trump, obama and george w. bush. >> there are questions about trump's financial information, he refused to release his tax information. >> i'm not requesting taxes. i'm requesting suspicious activity reports which were created to help members of congress be able to track suspicious foreign transactions. so these were put into place so that we could communicate better with banks and law enforcement. >> i understand, you say you may
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have subpoenas. you asked for visitor names and the concerns about who may have been around the ones president biden took with him when he left office. have you asked for those names from mar-a-lago? >> there's an investigation of that. there's a special counsel looking in that. >> there is looking into biden as well. >> we'll ask for those for pence. we will treat pence the same way we're treating joe biden. with trump, it's a different deal. >> why? >> there's a formal prosecutor. trump has been investigated for six years. he's still being investigated. >> there's a special counsel for biden as well, so why does it make a difference for trump? >> pardon me for not having as much confidence in the special counsel appointed by merrick garland. >> he appointed into trump as well.
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>> i'm against both special counsels. we don't need a special counsel. you cannot name one time in our history where a special counsel has been effective. these special counsels never materialize. they take forever. they operate behind closed doors. there's no transparency. i believe our oversight committee or congressional investigative committees can do much better work in a transparent setting and do it quicker than the special counsels. >> you said you will ask for biden and pence but not for former president trump. >> they're already looking into that. you have an aggressive special counsel looking into everything with trump related to his mishandling of classified documents. so that box is already checked. >> the same to biden as well, though. >> we don't know. our investigation is over influence peddling. there's a concern among a lot of republicans that some of these classified documents may have been part of the business model with the president's brother and
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the president's son in some of their shady business dealings. that's why we're concerned about biden. >> there's no evidence of that so far. >> there's no evidence they've influence peddled -- >> but not in relation to the classified documents. >> but we're investigating that. >> congressman comer, we're out of time, unfortunately. i know you have a bunch of hearings. thank you for taking the time to join us . >> thank you for having me. >> this is the time we're in where facts are sort of flexible -- >> that's why we have kaitlan collins on the hill fact checking in real time. >> citing "the new york post" as a credible source and saying that facts are -- it's just -- i can't believe that we're here. >> kaitlan, that was a great interview. moving on. >> listen, that's a big issue when it comes -- hold on, please, with the music. it's a big issue. the american people will have to suffer through all of this stuff
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from election deniers to people who don't believe in facts, we don't have a shared reality and now it's taking center stage like marjorie taylor greene, an election denier, a conspiracy theorist, a qanon influencer or supporter presiding over the house of representatives. it's a sad day for america when it happens and a sad time for us when we have to deal with that. >> and i also think, that was the point i was trying to make, why it is critically important to constantly and in real time fact check. right? and say, but -- for example, merrick garland appointed the special counsel, as kaitlan said, for both trump and biden and are you going to treat these things the same -- >> as going back to a special kind, i'm not sure if it's the same with bill clinton and ken starr. i think there should be equal treatment by all if you're going to appoint a special counsel for the former president you should appoint one for the current president and possibly for the vice president and twhaf you. here we go. we'll be right back.
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so a live look now at austin, texas. that's the starting point of "the last of us" that chronicles a zombie apocalypse by fungus and has a lot of us wondering could it happen in real life? >> no. >> could it? our chief medical correspondent is dr. sanjay gupta. good morning. is fungus, this kind of fungus, actually a threat? >> first of all, i have to say i watched part of the show now as homework for this assignment, and it's a really interesting show. i have to say. what the show is about is a fungus actually inducing this mind-altering behavior in humans. that's not a real threat. but where they got the idea was the idea of this fungus actually inducing sort of a change in ants. i don't know if can you see this but this is an ant that was
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infected. it climbs up a tree, climbs up a plant, just basically locks in there and you can see at the top of the screen there in the middle of the screen this fungus is actually growing out of its head now, and the reason it's doing that is it's basically stripped the ant of all its nutrients, the fungus is a total parasite and is creating the spore and will spread its seed and infect other ants. it is wild this is really wild. now that, thankfully, is not something that happens in humans, but that is where the show creators got the idea for this television series watching what it does to ants. generally speaking there are different types of relationships between pathogens and humans. the symbiotic relationships. we can break them down about mutualism is one of them where things like coral and algae. where one benefits and the other
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has no impact, that's like a bird building a nest in a tree. what you saw was parasitism where one pathogen uses the other organism for its own benefit. fungus using the ant to spread itself even further into the forest. it's wild. and that's what they're trying to build on for this show. >> i have to tell you when they told us about this segment, i was like, no way is sanjay going to do that, until i realized it's a real thing. it's a real thing and now we kind of understand it thanks to your brain. sanjay, thank you. >> you've got it. thank you. no, i had the same thought initially when i heard about the segment. then i started to dig into it. it's fascinate to go see how these pathogen canss can change behavior. it is wild to dig into. >> they can't control our brains. >> he's a brain surgeon. >>'s brain surgeon.
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shown for a plane in the pentagon. there is an islamic invasion into our government offices right now. kennedy getting killed in the plane crash, that's another one of those clinton murders, right? >> so she has pushed conspiracy that mass shootings were staged and false flag events including called a parkland survivor a paid actor. she engaged in antisemitic and anti-muslim rhetoric, compared barack obama to osama bin laden, compared mask rules in congress to the holocaust before she entered congress. also liked social media comments calling for the executions of democratic politicians including nancy pelosi, hillary clinton and barack obama. her list included fbi agents. she posted a picture of herself holding a gun alongside pictures of three members of the so-called squad with the caption she was going on, quote, offense against these socialists. in 2019 and 2020 she encouraged
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protesters to, quote, flood the capitol and endorse political violence claiming that 2020 election was stolen from donald trump and in the past two months she has downplayed the insurrection against a symbol of american democracy, her very own workplace. >> and i have to tell you something. "bans steve bannon and i would have organized that, we would have bon. not to mention it would have been armed. >> wow! woo! >> yeah. see, that's the whole joke, isn't it? >> she says that she would have won the insurrection on january 6th with arms. the same insurrection she blamed on antifa and yesterday in the same capitol this was attacked on that same house floor that was breached by many now convicted criminals, marjorie taylor greene sat in for the house speaker and presided over
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the house, gavel in hand, the same house she says that she could have seized during an insurrection. a sad day for america. here to discuss adam kinsinger, melissa and mondir. good morning. having just heard that, where is the lie? >> you don't know where to start with that. marjorie taylor greene has just uniquely kind of decided to take on every conspiracy theory imaginable. it would be funny if it wasn't so scary. sometimes you look at the things she says and you are like this is so out there. this is a woman who doesn't believe basic facts about our history in the speaker's chair, as i was watching that very good interview by kaitlan collins with comer and i had to say something because he is citing sources that are credible, not credible, talking about facts that are flexible and maybe you believe one thing and maybe another. facts are facts. this is where we are right now. i wander if you are happy to be
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out of it? >> i am really happy to be out of there. it's sad to me. i know mr. comer. he is a good guy. i was kind of surprised by the turn he has taken as the chair of the house skboversight committee. hunter biden's laptop, maybe the fbi has an interest in that. his laptop was stolen from him and exposed to people. he is not in government. yet this is the republican's number one thing this year. so my political analyst hat says james comer this, marjorie taylor greene is very influential person in the party. if i take that off and speak as adam kinzinger, what she says is what a lunatic says. it's finding every conspiracy and taking the trust of the american people. you represent 700,000 people but you have a voice in front of hundreds of millions and you are telling them complete and utter lies for one reason, so you can be promoted in this low paying job that you have in comparison to other things. >> what with aabout the line sa
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crossed, fringe conspiracy theory, when qnon was not widely espoused by some in power and government to being repeated by people like marjorie taylor greene? i mean, you have years ago what happened in d.c. in the pizza shop, pizzagatend and then thes neo-nazis planning an attack on baltimore. lies lead to actual violence and can lead to death. >> absolutely. these comments are not just made and nothing happens in response to them. we saw an attack or attempted attack on the city of baltimore. well, it turns out a few years ago donald trump himself in attacking elijah cummings -- >> and the city itself. >> majority black city, quote, disgusting, rat-infested and a place no one would want to live. fast forward a few years. a neo-nazi and his ally, i guess, attempting to disrupt life in the city of baltimore. for one reason only, i think.
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>> everybody every day when you wake up you have a battle in your heart between, like, i will call it good and evil. light and darkness. you always kind of have to dark that. it's easy to let the dark parts of your heart overtake your thinking. you don't have to think too hard. all your fear can manifest into how you act. when somebody in power, in leadership, stands in front of you and speaks out the dark parts of your heart, it gives you permission to let that overtake you. a leader's job is not to do that. a leader's job is to avoid the temptation. >> you said i think, don, are you happy to be out of there. you said you are so happy. recognizing what that moment is because you fought so hard against that while you were there and realizing, i think, you couldn't change it enough? >> yeah. look, to abextent i am sad i don't have the ability to fight there. i am personally glad to be out. it was 12 years. you have to say are from my party, i don't think it's going
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to take just one person coming along and saying the right things. this thing has to burn through the party. there has to be a moment where people are like, this doesn't work anymore. >> there is a similarity between us and that because when i was on the night show every day it was a knife fight about you are wrong, whatever. so this is a -- because i thought it would be -- there is a different conversation you could have. it's very easy, as you said, this fight in your heart to be lulled into the idea that -- and to normalize what comer said, to what marjorie taylor greene said, and that people actually believe it. the american people are going to have to deal with this for at least the next four years about what's real and what's not. and -- >> yeah, you were in the white house. >> you said don't be lulled into this sort of false narrative that trump has been -- he is different because he has been investigated. you said that's bs?
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>> we were talking about how many republicans and former government officials we know who we, you know, are honest decent people and now they are doing things that are performative and they know better. comer i would put into that box. he said donald trump has been investigated for five years. two years ago he helped incite an insurrection on the u.s. capitol. the idea that there is a date of expiration on it is absurd. i like the point that adam made. this is a crucial moment for the country. when are people going to put doing what's right for the country ahead of their political ambition or future ambitions? feels like so many people, whether it's a marjorie taylor greene or lauren boebert, they are running for the cable news gig, not to serve the people of the districts or the people of the country. it's terrible and we are going to look back and be like, what are we doing? >> what do people do? step away like you? do they step away like you? find a different route to tell the story, tell the truth?
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>> the beginning is having conversations with people you disagree. we are on different sides of the aisle but let's talk about what a democrat and a republican could marginally agree on. >> it's incumbent upon the media to educate the public about facts, which should not be in dispute. unfortunately because of changes in the media environment you have too many networks in this country focused on pushing the same lies that you see from even james comer to say nothing of donald trump and other people who are like him. >> could i say that the bible says you can't point out a speck in somebody's eye when you have a plank in your own. there is benefit, whoever you are, recognize your own issues, right? this chinese balloon, every republican is saying biden needs im he impeached over this, which is insane. the democrats when solemone was killed, they were wanted to start world war iii in the middle east. recognize that. look, our side has had some
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inconsistencies. right now i got to tell you the republicans own this inconsistencies thing. standing in front and litsaying lies and conspiracies as facts is destructive. >> the struggle is giving it a platform for me. but the people need to know. >> all right. >> what do you do? >> that's right. >> by the way -- >> that's a struggle in my heart every morning, i kid you not. what do you give platform to, what do you give voice to and what do you do in that position. >> we are grateful you share he. >> you said people need to hear that voice. thank you all. we got to g thank you. we'll be right back. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need.
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