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i'm victor blackwell. welcome to cnn newsroom. >> we're hours away from president biden's state of the union address tonight, his first to a divided congress. instead of nancy pelosi over the president's left shoulder, it will be speaker kevin mccarthy. the speech is expected to draw the largest television audience for the president this year. americans will hear biden lay out why he believes the state of the union is strong as he said last week. >> he's expected to talk about lowering inflation, improving infrastructure and getting past the worst of the pandemic. he's also expected to talk about america's stand against china. of course just days after an american fighter jet shot down one of its supply balloons. the president will likely increase the urgency for congress to act on policing reform and an adult weapons band. all of it will be a test run for his re-election bid. phil mattingly is with us now. what more should we expect from the president tonight? >> you know, victor, you laid out pretty much everything to
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some degree. it's important to know one of the key pieces of this, which is how many people will be watching this president in prime time in this moment given the backdrop of a divided congress, a critical inflection point of his first term in office and what we expect to be a couple weeks before he announces that re-election bid and the importance of this moment for this president. one, to connect with what white house officials feel is real, intangible accomplishments, on the legislative side, economic recovery, the public health crisis which they believe is waning, and trying to connect those not just to the american public which seems to be skeptical when you look at the polling right now but also connect them to what they believe they can accomplish going forward. white house officials make clear progress will be an element here but not a mission accomplished type moment. there is more work to do and why the president believes he can finish the job not just the next year or two years but the next
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six years. that's the undercurrent that is very important. the president will detail economic agenda, foreign policy planks. you can look at the guests in the first lady's box, he will talk about police reform, mental health, the war in ukraine that is still ongoing, that is a vocal point of the president's foreign policy. he'll also talk about republicans and don't expect this to be, when you talk to white house officials, any kind of political attack line speech or partisan warfare type speech. he will lay out clearly, when it comes to the debt limit battle that we're already kind of in the middle of now, the president has a diametrically opposed view than kevin mccarthy. he will also detail where there's areas of overlap, where the two parties can work together, lowering the temperature, steadfast leadership type moment when he knows tens of millions of americans will be watching. it will be a long speech, but an important speech for the president and what he's not only
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doing now but for the months ahead. >> thank you. as we said, the economy will be a major focus of the president's address. millions of americans face sticker shock on prices. we know about the cost of eggs, rent and gas has come down a bit. >> jay powell spoke just moments ago in washington. he made it clear that inflation is not going away any time soon. >> it's a process of getting inflation down, it's begun. it's begun in the goods sector, which is about a quarter of our economy. but it has a long way to go. >> it has a long way to go, signaling him to also say that more fed hikes are coming as well. more interest rate hikes from the federal reserve. >> exactly. saying it could be a bumpy road ahead. so, this was a 45-minute conversation. it covered a lot of ground on inflation. he said we have started to see the disinflationary process play out in goods, think physical
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things, electronics, appliances. some of those prices are falling. but in services, rent, airline fares, that has a way to go. he said 2023 will be a year of significant declines in inflation, but that it will take until 2024 before we likely get back to the fed's 2% target. no indication in these comments that they have any plans to change that 2% target. what about the state of the economy? he pointed to the red-hot labor market. he said the labor market is strong because the economy is strong. guys, this is the first time we're hearing from chairman powell after that blockbuster january jobs report. it showed that the u.s. economy added more than 500,000 jobs in the month of january. the unemployment rate ticking to a fresh 50-year low of 3.4%. it was shockingly high. it shocked many economists including powell. listen to what he said about that. >> we didn't expect it to be this strong. i would say it kind of shows you
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why we think that this will be a process that takes a significant period of time. the labor market is extraordinarily strong. by the way, it's good -- it's a good thing that inflation started to come down without -- that has not happened at the cost of strong labor markets. >> so, a good thing, but a complicating factor for the fed as it tries to tame inflation. we also learned on a lighter note that as a stress reliever, every job comes with its stress. the chairman of the federal reserve no different. chairman powell sharing he likes to ride his bike and play the guitar as a bit of stress relief. that was a fun note, too. >> that's nice. thank you so much. joining us now is john avlon host of "reality check: extremist beat" and margaret hoover, host of "firing line" on
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pbs. john, what is the mission for not just the president delivering the state of the union but this president now? >> this is the most important sales job i think of joe biden's presidency. he needs to make a case for what he's done in a way that the american people have to the fully recognized yet. he needs to make a case for what he wants to do and how he'll do it with a republican congress. this is going to be about physical vigor, clarity of vision and crispness of delivery. the style is important for the president to answer those questions about his age. >> we heard from speaker mccarthy and others, to behave tonight. that mics will be hot. does that suggest that we could have a night of civility? >> one can always hope. i hope we do have a night of civility. this state of the union address is two years into president biden's -- what would have been
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and he can still say was a first two years of a lot of legislative achievements. but the fact is -- i know john avlon, you're for that. he had a democratic senate and house. the major legislative achie achievements happened kind of without him. now he has an opportunity to demonstrate how he can actually broker deals at the negotiating table with kevin mccarthy, a republican speaker of the house and a democratic senate, which is a very divided senate. this is where we'll test the meddle of joe biden. i think you'll begin to say that today marks the beginning of that. >> i couldn't tell if that grunt was one of approval or disapproval. >> that was a disapproving grunt. >> look, biden objectively achieved a great deal legislatively over the first two years. it was a narrow democratic majority.
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he had to herd a lot of cats. he corralled a lot of senators to help get that legislation through. the question is can he identify the areas where he's objectively got weakness in public perception. work with republicans to get legislation passed, and will republicans under kevin mccarthy take yes for an answer? it's not going to be about the debt ceiling, there's other things. there's room for bipartisan compromise. >> what do you make of this polling from abc news and the "washington post" that shows 6 out of 10 americans think the president has achieved very little or nothing at all. one of the criticisms he had of the obama administration after the affordable care act was that they didn't go out and sell it. is he having that messaging problem as well? >> yes. i will say, usually when politicians blame the messaging, it's an excuse for their own weakness. in this case objectively, it's not true that he has not
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accomplished a little or nothing. he objectively -- the biden administration has been consequential, legislatively successful but there's been a problem in selling it to the american people. that's why the sales job is job number one for joe biden tonight. >> objectively and accurately, how can sarah huckabee sanders respond tonight to the state of the union speech? the newly sworn in governor of arkansas, former press secretary to president trump. what can she say about a booming jobs number and we also objectively know there was a historic legislation passed over the past two years. >> nobody underestimates sarah huckabee sanders. if you do, you do it at your own pe peril. she's a talented communication and politician. she will make -- she will plant
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the flag for what a republican conservative populism is, and what i'm looking for is exactly what policy she's going to shape. she'll talk about social conservatism, how good the overturning of roe v. wade is. that's important in her state. these are extreme positions even within the context of the republican party. then she'll plot out some other economic pushbacks to the biden message. it will have to do with pouring a bunch of money into the economy, what role did that have in stimulating the jobs market and payrolls? i'm looking for this rift and this wedge that you will see. this is sort of a precursor to the republican 2024 nomination because you'll see a split about ideas. so, more traditional conservatives like asa hutchinson, nikki haley, larry hogan, chris christie and ron desantis and sarah huckabee
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sanders. there's a real ideological fissure on the right. sarah huckabee sanders represents the latter. >> some of what the president discussed is this unity agenda, what he thinks democrats and republicans can get done for veterans, against cancer. as we talk about optics, how much will we see kevin mccarthy support all of that knowing that there's some in his conference who don't want him to applaud, stand, support the president at all? >> i suspect kevin mccarthy spent a lot of time thinking about when it is appropriate to applaud, support, and to do the thing that the americans are looking for, which is government to work and not just be obstructionist. he knows he has a national stage. 40 million people will have their eyes on kevin mccarthy for the first time ever. he waited a long time. but he has to, you know, corral the far extremes of his very, very tenuous majority.
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i suspect that will be one of the people reading between the lines with his body language. i suspect he will not -- he told them to behave. he wants them to reflect well upon republicans. >> so no ripping up of scripts. can i ask you something that you wrote about, that's the delicate dance that this president is going through right now in terms of deciding his future and whether he says i'm a one-term president or i'm going to run for a second term. if he does, that would make him 86 years old by the end of the second term, if he does win. talk about what's going on in the decisionmaking process before he does make his announcement. >> as you mentioned, i wrote a column about this for cnn opinion. look, i think that biden has a strong case to make for why he deserves a second term. the two counter factors are his age and that most second terms are dogged by disappointment.
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if you're thinking about presidential legacy, there's a case that should be made that he should go out on his own terms, show the virtue of democracy is not about holding on to power and focusing on a long-term policy agenda. being real, there's a power of incumbency. democrats giving that up would be seen as a self-inflicted wound. all the gravitational pull seems to be about him running again. if he does, he has to show he can work with republicans and that we can pass things. we're not as divided as we seem. these other factors, age and the right arc of history that he should keep in mind. >> a lot of people wondering whether we have another biden/trump runoff. >> not a popular option. >> john, margaret, thank you very much. join anderson cooper and jake tapper for live coverage of the state of the union address starting tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern. in turkey and syria, tch
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t search teams are digging through the rubble of thousands of collapsed buildings trying to reach anyone who may have survived monday's earthquake. the death toll is now above 7,000. it will likely rise even more. >> we want to warn you, what you're about to see is upsetting but conveys the heartbreak of this disaster. this is a father holding his daughter's hand. she died in her bed when the quake struck. he didn't want to leave her there. there you see a father holding his daughter's hand. there's been some miracle stories to tell you about. a little girl trapped in a wreck building crawling out of the debris to rescuers. look at her. now more than 70 countries including the united states have offered to help. becky anderson is in southern turkey and joins us for more. i know you've been there throughout the search and rescue today. this is one day later. what have you seen there? >> it's been interesting.
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you talk about the international support. a search and rescue team from kazakhstan, for example, on a site just about 50 yards down from where i'm standing at the moment on what was a live search and rescue operation until about an hour ago. they had to call a halt to that because the building which was partially collapsed is in danger of fully collapsing. there were 24 people in that building. when the quake struck at 4:15 monday morning, it's now 10:00 at night on tuesday, four of those 24 have actually been recovered alive today. there was a 3-year-old, a 7-year-old, and two adults. which is absolutely a heartwarming thing given the heartbreaking scenes we're witnessing today. on the site behind me here, we
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understand there have been 15 people unaccounted for. we have been hearing reports of signs of life here. you may be able to see the drills or hear the drills behind me. they're using spades and their bare hands at times to just shovel away the debris. they understand -- or they believe through the equipment that they're using that there are -- or there may be a void underneath here in which there may be people still alive. in fact, a couple hours ago, there were reports of somebody actually contacting them with a mobile phone to say they were still alive. so we've been hearing these calls for silence when all the heavy equipment is turned off, everybody goes silent. those on the site, those who are gathered here and many of those gathered here beside me are family members.
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everybody goes silent hoping against hope that the rescuers will actually be able to recover somebody. sadly, while we've been here, that hasn't happened. certainly they haven't rescued anybody alive. in fact, they held a white sheet up about an hour and a half ago. they were clearly bringing out a body. the rescue goes on. the search and rescue goes on. this is not a recovery scene as of yesterday. i can tell you every single person working on that site will continue until they have to close this out. this is not quite as cold as it was. it was bitterly cold when this earthquake struck. it's about minus 1 or minus 2 now. these conditions are not easy. as i say, while there is hope, these guys and women will continue. we're 41 hours into this operation. back to you. >> it's miraculous that in these conditions, you talk about the temperature and the lack of tools to dig some of these survivors out, that they are
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still bringing people out. as you said, they will continue to work for as long as they believe that there will be survivors of this earthquake. becky anderson for us in turkey, thank you. for information about how you can help the earthquake victims, go to cnn.com/impact. back here in the states, the memphis city council holding their first meeting since the video was released of the tedly tyre nichols police stop. we're learning that seven additional police officers are going to face discipline. we'll take you live to memphis next. and what officials are learning about other chinese spy balloons that flew over the u.s. during the trump administration. this cnn exclusive reporting ahead. it gets in betweween teeth to d destroy 5x more plaque above the gumline than floss. for a cleaner,r, healthier mout. listerine. feel the whoa! if your business kept on employees through the pandemic, getrefunds.com can see if it may qualify for a payroll tax refund of up to $26,000 per employee.
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council meeting with the city attorney telling me in addition to the six officers who have been terminated for their role in the tyre nichols death, seven others will face discipline. these officers are expected to be disciplined bringing the total to 13 officers who have been or will be disciplined for their role in the tyre nichols stop. these officers were not identified nor were details given as to their environment. the city council meeting was tense at times. there was a tense exchange between one councilman and the police chief here. the councilman was like where's waldo in the days after this incident was made public. she asked if what happened to tyre nichols was a culture problem within the police department or a training problem. listen to her response. >> culture is not something that changes overnight. you know, there's a saying in
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law enforcement that culture eats policy for lunch. we don't want to just have good policies because policies can be navigated around. we want to ensure we have the right people in place to ensure our culture is evolving and changing to the philosophy that we're talking about, the reforming and the reimagining what policing looks like in our community. so, having the right people in the right place at the right time is critically important. >> as many as dozen public safety reforms are being proposed here today. those reforms, if enacted, would take weeks to enact, about six weeks according to one councilman's estimation. those who did attend from the public are clear the changes they want to see. they want the end of plainclothes and unmarked cars during traffic stops and data transparency which they say is
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an ordinance which would give them a better idea of why people are pulled over and what happens to them afterwards. >> we know tyre's parents will be there at the state of the union tonight as guests of dr. jill biden's tonight carrying those messages and asks. there are new questions about george santos' finances and we hear from the house speaker into the possibility of an official house investigation into that congressman. and china says the debris from the china balloon shot off the south carolina coast belongs to china and not the united states. new detail a about what was inse that balloon. ♪ ♪ ♪
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house speaker kevin mccarthy says that george santos is facing ethic complaints but an investigative panel has not yet convened. in just the past week, santos has faced allegations of sexual harassment and renewed questions about his campaign finances. those are just a few. you know the list of the concerns that are prompting some of santos' constituents to confront him in person today. a literal busload of district 3 voters are traveling to capitol hill to call for his resignation. >> i'm here as a singular individual who is outraged to be represented by george santos. >> i happen to be a republican, that's why i'm disappointed in the republicans, especially mccarthy, who stands by this guy
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literally and figuratively, with somebody who has embarrassed this district 3 and is just going to be ineffective for the next two years. >> just a little while ago, santos said he would welcome those voters. >> i look forward to welcoming them and having a thoughtful discussion for them. that's their freedom of speech and i'll entertain a conversation with them every single day. i represent them all equally. we'll see how he greets the voters when they come with their questions. from your reporting, what could the ethics committee be investigating right now? there's a long list of potential topics. >> exactly. to go through the whole list would take half this time. >> at least to 3:00. >> 4:00. >> a lot of them are his biography and what he's said about that that has been proven
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false and fallen apart. the other big piece of this is the financial filings that have been made. you have a number of complaints brought against him as well as a criminal investigation. it all will come down to were these statements false that were made and, you know, what is actually behind them? one of the things that's jumped out to people are a series of these entries, these disbursements to vendors for 199.99. one penny shy of what would be required to file receipts and other materials with the fec. for santos, the volume here is very big. he also had a number that went to anonymous vendors. what me and my colleagues had done by looking into these filings, found that lee zeldin, when he was a congressman, also had 21 199.99 filings to anonymous venders on one day. the one thing they had in common
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is the same treasurer. so there's a lot of questions. santos is trying to distance himself from this saying he had nothing to do with the fec complaints. this treasurer, nancy marks resigned at the end of last month. so there's some rift here which makes it interesting from an investigative perspective. she's been in campaign finance for a long time. she's worked with zeldin, she worked for santos. and this santos work put her under the spotlight. we reached out to her multiple times. she has not responded for comment. >> very interesting common denominator there. thank you. in the alex murdoch first-degree murderer trial, the disgraced lawyers allege financial kcrimes are staking center stage as the prosecution tries to carve out a motive. we're live outside the courthouse.
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. efforts to recover fragments from that suspected chinese spy balloon continue off the south carolina coast. these new pictures show the rush to collect debris after it was shot down on saturday. china says what's left of the balloon and its payload now belongs to them and not the united states. >> on capitol hill, staff members for the so-called gang of eight, congressional leaders there, were briefed on the balloon by u.s. intelligence officials and the lawmakers expect to get their own briefing tomorrow. house of republicans are considering a symbolic resolution of condemning china. natasha bertrand joins us now. what are you learning about this
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balloon? >> my colleague, zach cohen, obtained a military report outlining details about these kinds of balloons. not this balloon exactly, because that one was shot down on saturday and we're waiting to see what intel officials and military officials can glean from the wreckage there. in terms of what the administration and the u.s. at large knows about these balloons, an air force report says over the last several years, china deployed multiple balloons across the world that can fly as high as 328,000 feet. it's circumnavigated the globe in 2019, a specific balloon the air force covered, and went over hawaii and florida undetected by the tragump administration at t time. this raises questions about the united states' ability to track these balloons over the united states. we heard from the commander of
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norad yesterday who told us that there was a domain awareness gap in what the u.s. has been able to detect in terms of where these balloons actually are. that's why this balloon in particular that we saw travel over montana last week went undetected by the u.s. before, of course, it was traveling into u.s. airspace. this was a report that was sent to congress. we know now that the administration has been aware of these balloons for quite some time. guys? >> thank you. for more on this, cnn military analyst cedric leighton and the director of the china asia program at the university of texas -- austin. i'm trying to figure out why china sent these balloons in the first place, especially given the timing and knowing that xi and president biden were hoping to stabilize relations between the two countries.
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>> that's a great question. that raises some troubling questions about the decisionmaking process on the chinese side. this is a sensitive time in the u.s./china relations. the two sides said they wanted to stabilize things. either this was a sensitive operation authorized by xi jinping or it was not authorized. there have been instances where the chinese military or other actors have undertaken sensitive operations without the knowledge of key leaders. but xi jinping has tried to fix a lot of those coordination problems with the central national security commission. either those efforts have not worked or this indicates more risk acceptance on the part of the chinese leadership than we thought. as the chinese are trying to put blame on to the united states, this has not helped the bilateral relationship but it's been a problem for the broader
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global narrative that china has tried to portray. >> and one could argue an embarrassment for china and xi at home. colonel, as we heard, something that is troubling is that this is not the first time the balloons have been traveling through the united states. as we now know, in the trump administration they went undetected. the norad head and commander said he attributed it to the domain awareness gap. how worrisome is that. in >> it's very worrisome, because the key thing that really is in that word, domain awareness gap, is that we didn't see it or detect it. that fact is a key indicator that we have a lot to do in order to fill that gap. so, whether it's radar coverage, intelligence coverage, a combination of both of those, those are the kinds of things that actually need to be put together where you have a complete picture of the airspace
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from the ground level all the way up to outer space. that's what was missing here. we didn't think the chinese would be using balloons to this -- for this purpose, and the fact is, of course, they are using them. they gave us indications that they were doing it and we should have followed up on that. >> there's also one flying over latin america as we speak. sheena, do you think it was right -- i know there was pressure from republicans and democrats to respond, and respond he did by canceling tony blinken's trip to china. do you think that was the appropriate response, not canceling it but postponing it? >> i think just in a practical level, as long as that balloon was in the air over the united states, it would have been difficult for blinken and his team to get a lot accomplished. the balloon would have overshadowed and made any progress on the trip very, very difficult. you know, this was a sensitive operation that took place right
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on the eve of a major visit. i think postponing certainly while the united states gets more information and tries to figure out both the gaps on our own side and as you were discussing a moment ago, but also more about what the chinese decisionmaking process is that led to these balloon flights is an appropriate step. >> colonel, if i could get you to weigh in on the u.s. military notifying congress that china has more land-based intercontinental range missile launchers than the united states. we should note that the united states has more nuclear-tipped missiles, but the chinese are expected to develop more over the coming years. what should the u.s. do in response to that? >> i think what we're looking at here is the way things have played out, there is no arms control treaty in place. so there's really no nuclear arms control treaty like we had with russia and the soviet union. there's nothing like that with the people's republic of china.
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so, what you're seeing here is, in essence, an arms race that the chinese are running without us playing in it, though we are the ones they're competing against. >> we're likely to hear more from the president on u.s./china relations in his state of the union address as well. thank you for your time. in syria and turkey, more than 7,000 people are dead. tens of thousands have been injured, an unknown number of those still unaccounted for. details on the precarious rescue mission for people still trapped after the earthquake. ours!! not coughing? hashtag still not coughing?! mucinex dm gives you 12 hourss of relief from chest congestionn and any type of cough, day y or night. mucinex dm. it's comeback season.
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today in the double murder trial of alex murdaugh, the jury heard testimony from the cfo of murdaugh's former law practice about his alleged financial crimes. prosecutors say they explained the motive for him allegedly killing his wife and son. >> cnn's randy kay is right outside that courthouse. get us up to speed. >> reporter: well, victor and bianna, this is what's happening so far. jeanne has been there on the stand saying the motive he had for his wife and son, and prevent them from being exposed. they took the jury through the dozens of cases they say alex murdaugh worked on, and they say he stole millions of dollars from his clients going back as far as 2013. many of these were car accident victims who really needed this
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super bowl lvii is this sunday in fephoenix. there's a massive security plan. local, state, and federal officials involved. also include cybertechnology and drones. fbi officials say right now there are no credible threats. >> we have a very important message to communicate. it is a message that we are grateful to the nfl for amplifying, and it is a message of vigilance. if you see something, say something. we all have to be alert to a potential threat to make sure that it does not materialize. >> now for the game, philadelphia eagles/kansas city chiefs, the players spoke with the media today. cnn sports anchor coy wire is in phoenix. what are you hearing, coy?
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>> reporter: hi, victor. i'm hearing excitement in voices. even disbelief from some players that they actually made it to the super bowl. some of the greatest players of all-time have never played in one. hall of famers, eric dickerson, ladainian tomlinson, all more than a decade in the league, and not a super bowl appearance. so many of the players that have made it though, victor and bianna, the most remarkable journeys. one player will be tough to miss on sunday. 6'8", and 365-pound jordan mailata, paving the way for jordan hurts. he grew up in australia, and his dream was to play in a rugby league down under, and he struggled to make it. took all sorts of side jobs to support himself and he was told he didn't fit the mold. he took himself to the west, and gets an opportunity with the eagles and he's in the super bowl. he told me all about these tough days early on. listen. >> i was a scaffolder, stage
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builder, demolition expert, and junior -- i wouldn't even call myself a junior carpenter. i was just there helping the actual carpenter do his job. i was, like, cool. you want me to pick this up? i think the hardest part was just waking up at 4:30. that was the hardest part. the hardest part is always waking up. once you're on the job, you just got to be where your feet are at. >> those feet need size 18 shoes. jordan the giant said the toughest part was not seeing his family while he was away from home from this train and trial tracks from the rugby just worth $4,000 to being told he wasn't good enough, and now a $60 million plus-plus contract extension. playing in the super bowl. he's a great example of betting on yourself as many of these players have. >> yeah. who needs rugby when you have got football that will take you to the super bowl? coy wire, thank you. we
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