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to overturn the election making a major move tonight. will pence cooperate? plus new reporting into upfront this hour. biden has a new obsession. the president zeroing in on a certain republican in florida. our phil mattingly reporting tonight. senator john fetterman still hospitalized tonight, after feeling light headed. it comes after he suffered a massive stroke last year. fellow stroke survivor and country music superstar randy travis is out front tonight to talk about his road to recovery. let's go up front. good evening, welcome to all, this is a special addition of out front tonight, i am erin burnett. you tonight, the special counsel with a major move. former vice president mike pence has been suspended. the special counsel jack smith calling it as part of his criminal investigation into trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. of course, pence was there that they and all the days before and after and on that day, the mob threatened to hang him, remember that?

he was at the heart of trump's efforts to overturn the election. >> i hope that our great vice president, our great vice president comes through for us. he's a great guy, of course, if he does not come through, i won't like him quite as much. >> of course, pence did not come through, not before the insurrection after he was rushed to safety because an angry mob of trump supporters are trying to hunt them down and threatened to explicitly hang him. >> president trump said, i have the right to overturn the election. president trump is wrong. i had no right to overturn the election. the presidency belongs to the american people and the american people alone. frankly, there is no idea more un-american that the notion of any one person could choose the american president. >> evan perez begins our coverage out front live in washington. evan, what more are you learning about the subpoena of the special counsel? they've been quiet from jack

smith for a while and coming up now with a very significant development. >> this is a historic milestone really, erin, and the sophistication that's been going on two years, taken over by jack smith back in november but we knew that there would be negotiations going on between the justice department between prosecutors and mike pence's lawyers to try to work out and agreement for him to provide testimony. obviously, at this point now he is under a subpoena and expected to show up and provide documents, expected to provide testimony to the justice department as part of the investigation. he's a very important witness, obviously, because he had all the interactions with the former president trump, both before the election and in those key weeks after the election. there was a december meeting that mike pence the scripts his more between him and trump in which trump or suggests the idea that he is going to challenge the election results.

of course, there were multiple meetings at the oval office in early january, before january six, all of those things that mike pence details in his book are now fair game for prosecutors to ask questions about it, and those are things that mike pence and his team were fully aware of before the book was published so you can bet that prosecutors want a lot more but because mike pence is represented by emmitt flood, one of the well known lawyers here in washington, who is a hawk on this issue of executive privilege we expect that that issue is going to come up. we'll see whether that means that there are certain questions that he will refuse to answer and then what the justice department does about the. does it go continuing fighting for additional answers, or the reason to bring forth. >> thank you, very much, evan perez. my panel is with me right now.

let's not were evan finish. ryan goodman, on the legal side, he brings up a how executive privilege will be important to. this again, we say how pence did not testify in front of a generous committee. he did allow mark short and others, so he is going to use executive privilege, but do take that will slow this down or work? >> it certainly will not work. there is a u.s. supreme court case, united states versus nixon, a unanimous decision, which a sitting president is forced to turn over documents under a subpoena in a criminal trial. the court says when it comes to a criminal trial, it's kind of game over. there is no such opinion for congress, so that's why pence was able to maneuver in that regard, but here, it's a done deal. the only question is how quickly it will be decided. it's already been decided very quickly for a senior aide to try to invoke executive privilege, but it was excited against that. >> one thing we bring in the political part of this, obviously, you can't totally look at a crystal ball, but on timing, do we get enough information for jack smith to make some sort of indictment decision on criminal liability for trump on january six this

year? you've got him as the only declared candidate right now for the 2024 election. >> so could biden in weeks, the reason is that all the judges would know that this is a decided outcome. the district court judges, this could happen quickly. it would not have been quick with congress, but she's already done that very quickly with pence's senior aide. >> you say the decision on executive privilege will be -- >> the decision on executive privilege, so delicate testimony, that could be very quick. the supreme court maybe does not hear the case. they could say that this is already been decided by us, and then this seems like an and stage for jack smith, the fact that he is doing pence now. i do think that would mean within months, he might make a decision on indictment. >> it's incredible, because for all the conversation, at least for a while, have been the classified documents. that was opened, and then there is a lot of mess, like biden and pence and everybody else, but the january six part of this has been quiet. now you have this happening tonight. reince ng you can have an indictment within months, -- >> two years at the january 6th,

to me, it feels like what took so long? mike pence is so central to what happened on that day, as you noted. he was there before, they're on that day, thereafter. what he knows, what he experience in that pressuring of him to overcome an election, i can't believe we don't know yet from his own words outside of his mom or which is very carefully crafted and protected so i feel like it's about time and i think the important thing is, we will see if mike pence can finally break free from trump. he is criticized him here or there for them not see lunch, january six, wanted to terminate the constitution, but he's also said he does not know if trump is fit to be president again. how do you not know that? he has not been able to acquit him entirely and insist they are amicable. i am sorry, when your former boss calls you a [bleep], you are not aliqopa.

>> it is amazing, in this context, i love how the mom are always comes first. oh, executive privilege, i can say but i got no problem putting out a more, we see it again and again with john bolton, with mike pence. do what a seat was just saying, let's put a bit about what pence has actually said as he sort of started more and more to come after trump on this issue. here he is. >> but frankly, when i saw those images and when i read a tweet from president trump saying that i lacked courage in that moment, it angered me greatly. but to be honest with you, i did not have time for eight, the president had decided in that moment to be part of the problem. i decided and was determined to be part of the solution. . a >> it angered me greatly.

he does not amount. but how will he handle this. >> i think one interesting aspect that this is that mike pence feels frustrated about the way that matchup reacted on gender sex itself. there is a lot of questions about what pence was privy to prior to january six. the whole fake electors scheme, all those things, he probably have some contact with. also, mike pence is running for president, not officially. he's doing all the things you do when he ran for president. he wants to stay as much on the good side of trump supporters as he possibly can. this subpoena makes it easier. it's not him going up and saying i have things to tell you, i was forced to do it, so i am sure he's practice many times in the mirror how he will position this but this makes it easier for him to try to at least at the middle. >> to that point, it is amazing that pence wants to stay on the good side of trump supporters, what planet is ian? >> he has two if it expects to get to the republican party, he has to be able to carve up some of those trump supporters in

order to be him or whoever else comes in the field. i was thinking about this and ordering would have been better for this to come sooner? i wonder also why it took so long, but politically, this is actually a great moment, he is clearly trying to be the savior of democracy, i was the one who had to get it done, so this timing, again, the justice department is requiring and to do this, so now he can come to what is the legal obligation is and come out and say that this is why i still have trump policies, but i did what the justice department needed me to do, and now i am running for president because i saved democracy. >> that will make sense, but ryan, not that he's been subpoenaed, he could just be

like, it's one of my time, i will waltz on in there. how much resistance, as you know, as tepid as it may be? >> it's difficult to know because he's given the appearance of resistance but he also could say at any point, he really could say, i will not fight this legally because all my lawyers tell me that i have one of the best executive privilege experts in the country, and this is unwinnable. i am compelled to give my testimony. >> and so, s. e., what do you think the reaction is in trump world today? they were hoping that this aid would not come. it's been two years, has not come. they could maybe think, maybe it was not going to. >> right, listen, everyone here is right, but i'm sure mike pence wants to stay on trump's good side, trump supporter could side, but he'd have to be there and the first place. he's not on the good side of any of those people. look people wanted to hang him. he's not winning them back. make matters worse for mike pence, he's not winning the other side of the republican party, the never trumpers, who

thought that mike pence sold out. he was a deficit hawk who went to the white house and saw the deficit and to explode. he jettisoned all the things that he blatantly like the bottom to carry trumps water. there is no natural mike pence constituents to please. he should go in there, tell the truth, let the chips fall where they may. >> pick a lane, thank you all very much. everyone, stay with me next. new reporting for the white house, you'll hear first out front, the urgent question president biden asked a senior aide this morning as he boarded marine one for florida. very telling about his plans. our phil mattingly is next with that reporting. plus elon musk spacex, blocking ukrainian forces from using the critical starting technology of germs against the russians, why? and a new update on this health of senator john fetterman who's been splice again after suffering a stroke once you go. he is still in the hospital tonight. struck survivor and country music superstar randy travis and his wife are up front to talk about the long road to recovery. ♪ ♪ ♪ liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. with the money we saved, we tried electric unicycles. i think i've got it! doggy-paddle!

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>> the very idea that a senator from florida wants to put social security and medicare on the chopping block every five years, i find so outrageous. so outrageous, that you might not believe it. >> let's go right to phil mattingly at the white house. phil, obviously, he's referring to scott's proposal, every federal program up for five years, then up the exceptions to it, so that missile security. you have new reporting on just how intensely president biden's focus not just on sentence -- desantis but on scott? >> we'll see a policy, policy that's cup on the table. when it's got put this on the table early last year, almost immediately, according to our advisers, the president mocked into it, and as one officer said, was a political coal mine. if only democrats could coalesce behind the importance of battling against that plan. if you want to know just how much the president cares about getting the details right here, as he was boarding marine one during his trip to florida, which i joined him on. he stopped and looked at one of his advisers and said, do we

have copies of these cup plan at the event? the advisor said, yes, we do. what he's referring to, you've seen him over the course of the last few days, holding up a two page pamphlet that details that specific provision of senator scott's rescue plan for america that he introduced last year, and in that plan, he wanted it on every single seat of the audience at the event today. keep in mind, this is a partisan audience, democrats and biden supporters, yet he thinks the words themselves are so critical that he wanted it out there. this is not a new thing. one adviser told me that late last summer, going into the midterm elections, he was driving this idea of you need to post these words. you need to get these words and paper copies that you can hand to people because when they read the words, they will recognize that in his view, this is an extreme issue. extremism to see something that the president focused throughout the midterm election campaign and will likely in a reelection campaign in 2024. you saw today, and what it underscores more than anything else, one, the recognition of the residents of the issue. you saw it played up during the state of the union address, but also what it means going

forward. he'll be focused on this going forward, talking about this going forward, and election campaign will focus on this message as well, as one adviser said. he's letting them hang themselves with their own words, and it's certainly their case with the pamphlet. >> phil mattingly, thank you very much. back with me, harry hinton, watching the numbers and polls. it's pretty amazing that he would say, that detail and the fact that you want those in your church, right? your people are coming, you don't just want them to believe, you want them to evangelize. >> that's right, he brought the receipts and brought a for everyone sitting in the crowd, and he wants people to take photos of the receipt and imposed on social media so that people can know, what rick scott proposed and by rick scott, he is assigning him and connecting him to the republican party. and it is smart because we are in a moment where the truth will set you free. we need to know where these

people are standing on these important issues, and the fact that he was in florida and did it -- he mentioned the sentence, but he went into scott's backyard and said, i'll show you what you said. you wanted to do at me on tuesday night, well, let me bring you what was actually in the plan, now what do you have to say? >> of course, the plan does not say, asterisk, i give an exception for -- there is no astronaut and

there. harry, i suppose we can all guess where people stand on cuts to social security and medicare in florida. what are the numbers? >> oh my goodness gracious, we have a poll for you that will show you how many american support cutting social security, medicare and medicaid. it's less than 10%. it's a percent. 79% -- >> give me their names, i want to know who they are. >> exactly, you find a percent sporting anything, that's called a percentage, basically equal to the george santos favorable rating in his own district at this particular point. that's basically on the same level as 10% of americans believe we've picked the moon

landing so this is less popular than a wild conspiracy theory. >> how far can you take this, as he? >> i think he's hoping for a very long new cycle on this and let me tell you, the biggest tricky is pulling off here is that he is forcing republicans to talk about policy. it's not what they wanted to. they want to talk about culture wars, want to talk about wokeism. >> especially desantis -- >> especially the santa suit occasionally creates policies to solve invisible, imaginary problems. he does bring policies to the table.

other folks like marjorie taylor greene and the lower barber, then i hear the govern but to get attention and do grievance politics and politics of revenge. biden is forcing republicans to talk about policy. it's not where they went, it's where democrats want, so it's a masterful thing, and if i were him, democrats, i would use this as a lesson for the next year and a half. make republicans talk about policies because they don't want to. they want to talk about mr. potato head. >> so nancy mace, the republican congresswoman, tight reelection race, she wins, comes out with a win last night's press club dinner. wow, did she bring it. i get that these are jokes, but these are the temperatures where it is like, oh, i am just kidding. here she is. >> did you watch mccarthy during the speaker's foot? i know many of you were in the halls of congress during the vote, i have not seen someone assumed that many positions to appease the currency republicans since stormy daniels. we all knew that matt gates would never let the vote get to 18. i do have a message for this evening. he really, really wanted to be here tonight because he could not find a babysitter. really, like who lies about playing college volleyball. who does that? if you're going to lie, at least make it about something big, like you actually won the 2020 presidential election. recently, there's been a lot of talk about antisemitism, but ever since march of taylor greene ever started behaving, the rate of jewish space laser attacks are not zero. i know everyone thinks republicans are not funny, but if you get >> who nee>> honestly, iof doing they're trying toff a sis definitelynancy mace has gone ba forth with her own caucus in the past.

>> trump came out against her. he did come against or, seems like she is picking a lane. >> right, absolutely. she has long been opposed to people like markets. it's not surprising, given the opportunity to have to cover about this is just jokes. >> oh, i loved it. i have been following nancy mace. this nancy mace, i can get behind. calling it like it is and not being afraid of taking off trump and taking off the rowdy wing of the republican party is important. it really is important to call the stuff out, even as jokes. >> you got nancy mace. the overall field starts to ship up here, we talked that pence wants to run, is intended plan, trump is the only announced candidate. biden clearly wants the, run

and he has windfall honda cells are now, so he's in florida. if it is biden versus desantis, and i am going 50 steps ahead. what does that look like? >> desantis leads and the polls right now. the fact he is going after desantis because if you look at the primary polls, what you see is basically donald trump, ron desantis and it's everybody else. mike pence is at 2% of the polling, nikki haley at 1%. if you match desantis up against trump individually, what you see is that desantis is leading, get this, 52% to 42%, so the idea it will definitely be donald trump, it will probably be either joe biden against donald trump or run desantis it biden sites to run. but at this particular point, who knows? >> that also shows, if you look at that, it's very early again, donald trump has about a third of the gop. his base, whatever it is. maybe it's less than that. but if you give him that, you still have the other third, getting up way into the modern part that desantis has. >> it's really fascinating about who supports who. you have independent leaders leading very heavily for donald trump. you have trumps corpus, people with college degrees, they're still there, but a fairly

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>> former russian president dmitry medvedev spoke out today saying that russia will increase its production a battle tanks and they will do it because the u.s. in germany are sending their new top-of-the-line tanks to ukraine. it comes as president zelenskyy is asking for more modern tanks, long-range missiles and more fighter jets. here is sam kiley, a closer look at the ukrainian arms right now on the front lives. take a look at, this it's a story you will see first upfront. >> carrying weapons designed 75 years ago, these ukrainians are grateful that their training with an american vehicle. even if it is from another age. there, a mixture of combat veterans and relatively new recruits, but all have been fighting in ukraine's eastern front of russia in the cultures of bakhmut and soledar. their commander-in-chief, a lot of may zelenskyy, has begun the

west for modern nato standard equipment, and he's been given some modern weapons but not the strategic weapons, like long range missiles and jets that he says he needs. meanwhile, ukraine's war is expected to intensify, and ukrainians make do with old soviet weapons. and workhorse hand me downs like these m1 one threes. trip carriers, which the u.s. army started using in 1960, about 400 have been given to ukraine by the u.s. and others. this has been patched up since it took a direct hit in bakhmut, where they top gunner was killed. >> to say that it's old, that it looks old, but it looks battered. it does the job, after percent, he tells me. >> ukraine has been given better at defenses, better

artillery, better resources stumps, than it had before, but zelenskyy said that is not enough in any way, not the best equipment, often, not even second best. >> the ukrainian military are keen to stress that they are really grateful for all and any hope that they're given. these armored personnel carriers from america are better than some of what they started the war with, and they are an important part for battlefield replacement. they've been here since the summer. this one, already needs a new engine. >> ukraine captures a lot of what it needs from russia. it's desperately cannibalizing ancient equipment for parts, like a 20th century nation under siege, not a nation backed by america and by nato allies. making two is what ukraine has done. privately though, commanders are making clear that it will take more than an iron will and hampton what pins for them to win this war. >> sam, it's amazing when you see that you are by the armored

personnel carrier that it's a new engine. it does seem that one thing coming out of president zelenskyy's talks is that more eu leaders are becoming open to the idea of sending private jets. the british prime minister, with a fighter jet helmet on x to zelenskyy was pretty clear message, so what has changed? >> i think what is happening, and this is been the case throughout this war and indeed, the previous war, if you go back to 2014, when ukraine was denied any type of lethal aid. that was the uk that came forward in the end, many years later with lethal aid and then during the 11, nearly 12 months into this war, aaron, in governmentally, nato and other western allies of ukraine have been helping out, but they've been very anxious about it, worried about the nuclear threat coming from russia. i think the tipping point has been the realization that the war in europe, the president zelenskyy has been saying, is ongoing right now, and it could spread and get worse if russia

is not stopped. so now we've got the polls, the dutch, the british, the french not ruling it out, all hinting that they might be prepared to send those fighter jets that they saw desperately need, aaron? >> simply, thank you so much, on the ground in eastern ukraine along the front lines. i want to go now to retired army lieutenant general mark hertling. general, as these announcements since come of more weaponry going to ukraine, lay apart tanks, u.s. tanks, abram tanks, russians responding. they are coming out and saying that russia will increase its production of battle tanks. they are coming out with great fanfare to say so. we know about the sanctions, know about the shortages and materials, what it takes to build those tanks, does russia really have the capability to change the numbers on the ground in terms of tanks? >> i don't believe they do, and it would be a real push for them to do it. the russian ten factories are estimated to

produce about 200 a year. they are very cheap tanks, not very good, they don't compare well to western tanks but even if they were to produce those 200 times a year, and i am suspected that, they don't have to cross the full them. they've been having all kinds of problems with mobilization. what we know right now at this conflict at this face, it's a rush between russian mobilization of soldiers, as many as they can get on the battlefield and the u.s. providing the kinds of equipment that ukraine needs to fight them. the rest of the winter, probably into late

winter will be tough. i think in the spring, you will see the pick up of ukrainian forces and the capability of projecting counter offenses and offensive operations. >> yet, u.s. and german officials say that the tanks, the little parts and abrams will not come for a few months. the training is starting now, but you've got to train multiple people protect, months at that. thanks welcome for months. why is it taking so long, even just on the delivery front? >> erin, what i would like to do is balance since report, a very good one, the 113 he is talking about is what the u.s. army calls a combat taxi. he is right, we have given about 400 of those, but when you think about the other things, 30 billion dollars that the u.s. has provided in aid to ukraine, that's about six times as much to ukraine used in their defense budget alone and about a third of what russia's defense budget is. but also, you have to include and, 31 abram tanks, 45 thanks, honored five by the vehicles, personnel carriers, 250 security vehicles, over 1700 humvees, 38 himars, the list goes on and on, so anyone that is saying that the west is slow rolling this, does not have a long list of the things that have been provided. they have a two billion dollar package. >> before you go, i want to ask you one other crucial thing. we're reporting tonight that

the president of spacex, founded by elon musk, says it is not going to prevent ukrainian soldiers from fully use that starlink satellit e service, as talking to an adviser to zelenskyy the other day, this has been the key of the war to them. they have relied on this. what do you say to elon musk right now? >> i think it's despicable, aaron. this is the scene then time that mr. musk esper and the restriction or the constraints on the use of the starlink, and it is critical for ukraine combat opportunities, not only for guided ammunition from artillery pieces and himars but also the guiding of their drone capability. ukraine citizens are getting crushed by russian artillery and russian missiles, and they have to fire back. to

strip away the capability of giving ukrainian force a, just a precise and precision weapon is just despicable on my part. if mr. musk is doing the, he is a horrible human being in my opinion. >> general hertling, thank you so much. >> pleasure, erin, thank you. >> next, new images from the china spy balloon showing five and tennis, huge solar panels, so that china could listen to u.s. communications, pinpoint where they were coming from. we'll go live to beijing this hour, and senator john fetterman, we can tell you is remaining hospitalized tonight. he felt light headed after he suffered a stroke last year. fellow stroke survivor, randy travis, country music legend, has a message along with his wife or others battling with this. at adp, we understand business today looks nothing like it did yesterday. while it's more unpredictable, its possibilities are endless. from paying your people from anywhere to supporting your talent everywhere, we use data driven insights

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>> tonight, senator john fetterman still in the hospital undergoing test that they're a health scare. a senator spokesperson said he received the results of an mri showing that he did not have another stroke. veteran was taken to the hospital yesterday. he said he felt light headed. it has been nine months since he suffered a stroke in the middle of his 2022 campaign. but for those who have survived a stroke like country music superstar, seven-time grammy

winner, randi travis, awareness is affecting. travis suffered a near fatal stroke in 2013. he was rushed to the emergency room when complaining of congestion. he then suffered a massive stroke that affected the whole of part of his brain. at one point, his heart completely stopped. doctors rushed to put him on life support and into in a deuced coma. he had a 1% chance of survival, 1%. he beat the odds. out front now, randy travis and his wife, mary. randy, i know it will be ten years to the summer since you suffered a stroke. it's a miracle that you're with us today. every day's been a part of your recovery. how are you feeling now? >> good, yeah. >> yeah, he feels good. he has a job in his heart and keeps a smile on his face. we do every day understand how blessed we are to still be here. we've got every day. for being here and for all the blessings that get in our way each day, so she's just been a joy to be with and to walk through this with. >> i know that you, obviously

randy, you hear and think, and it's bubbly processing that could be so difficult. mary, you've been there but randy side through the entire road to recovery, and as such a crucial part, it's incredible to see the video that you shared with us of randy in 2013 when they started compared to where you are now. i know the rubble part for you, randy, still such a challenge. we're having this conversation, mary, you're helping with the talking, what has been the hardest part of the recovery? >> i think the hardest part of the recovery is understanding what the new year's, and i hate the cliché, the new normal because there is no normal. but the aphasia, the aftermath. 85% of the people in the world don't know what aphasia is, which is the inability to speak, the pathways between the brain and the amount, it's severed. that's a hard thing to deal with, especially when you are randy travis, who spoke to the world, through a song.

the other thing is the rehab that you go through after stroke. it's extremely grueling. you just have to stick to it, and you are not ever defeated until you quit, so you just had to keep doing it day in and day out. understanding that life is the best there beat that we found, getting back to doing as many things as you did before, maybe in a different way but continuing to move forward. >> i know you all go to dinner with friends, and into all these things. as you say, the things he did before but in a different way. randi, for you though, so much of what you were or who you were was public, or at least we had a view of you performing. you're singing, as mary says. he spoke to the world to your

song. a few weeks before your stroke, you are on the road this summer, some of your last stops for detroit and chicago. he looked healthy, completely healthy. i know you then started experiencing congestion. you are rushed to the hospital in critical condition, and then they had to induced coma for 72 hours. you went to the surgery to reduce the pressure on your brain, all of this, mary, what should people know about all suddenly this can happen? >> it can happen overnight. like you said, he was working out two days before we went to the hospital. the day we went to the hospital, we had had an eight-hour meeting, and he said i don't feel good, and that was unusual for randy, but what we were experiencing was the viral cardiomyopathy to hit the heart. it had shut down -- the heart was starting to shut down because it was being stressed by the lungs filling up.

as far as the stroke symptoms that anyone would normally see which is the -- you see the acronym fast, face drooping, arm weakness, speech slurred and then time being the most critical issue, but we did not experience that because he was in a coma at the time of the stroke. probably created from when he flatlined, and they resuscitated him. they believe that's when the club was creating the stroke. ours was the borough cardiomyopathy that started to tumble down, and then at the data, it's been a stroke and one thing led to another. it happened quickly, it was pretty much an overnight thing for us. >> you know, randy, you did come back to the stage in 2016 at the stroke, and you are able

to sing amazing grace. you are conducted into the hall of fame. it's got to bring a lot of joy to so many and inspiration to so many to be able to see you to do the. i know the support of many, you don't even know who they feel like they know you, must mean a lot to you after all of this? >> a lot, good -- >> mary, what is your message to other struck survivors on the road to recovery? >> don't give up.

don't ever stop, don't ever stop believing the we would go to plateaus of recovery, and then we'd think, that's it. what then the next thing you know, there was another little thing, and i always caught them giant baby steps because it would be something else that we go, that was enough to keep us going again, and don't ever stop, and don't lose hope, and don't lose your joy in life. remain possible. surround yourself with good and positive and thankful people that bring you joy. i think that's the best medicine that there is, just living life. none of us are given a tomorrow, so just to be here are small again in life. we keep shooting for the stars. i suggest that for all of us. >> yes, for all of us. thank you both so very much. mary and randi travis, thank you. >> thank you, erin, for having us. god bless. >> next, the first evidence from the spy plane in the hands of the fbi tonight. the biden administration reveals what they already learned. that is next. i have sleep apnea. couldn't use cpap. now i have this.

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