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former president bolsonaro who called himself the trump of the tropics. both countries framing today's meeting as a renewal of an important friendship. the d.c. police arresting a man for attacking democratic congresswoman angie craig. kendrick hamlin charged with assaulting the minnesota democrat in her apartment elevator. she threw hot coffee on the attacker to fend him off, and she suffered some bruises, but her office says she is otherswise okay. the vice president among those who call to check in on her. senator kyrsten sinema playing cards close to the vest. the arizona independent refuses to say whether she'll run for re-election in 2024. >> you have not yet announced that you are going to run for reelections. >> i won't be doing that today. >> but you could change your mind. >> nope. >> democratic senator john fetterman's office says he did not suffer another stroke. the pennsylvania democrat still in the hospital. that after feeling lightheaded wednesday. fetterman's team says the senator is being monitored just in case for signs of a seizure,
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but so far there are none. appreciate your time today and all week on "inside politics." hope to see you on monday. have a nice weekend. abby fphillip picks up our coverage right now. a very good friday to you. i'm abby phillip in washington. thank you for joining us. an fbi search, a subpoena for former vice president mike pence. right now the feds are searching pence's indiana home for any additional classified documents that may still be there. the move was expected as pence's team has pledged full cooperation with the investigation, and we are also learning that a second location may be searched, as well. pence has also been hit with a subpoena in the criminal investigation of former president trump's role in the capitol insurrection. pence was a key eyewitness and a key victim of the events on and around january 6th. and the special counsel wants to hear all about his interactions
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with his former boss during that time. cnn is tracking both of these stories. what are we learning first about this fbi search? >> reporter: it's a pretty big and busy week for mike pence. this fbi search is still going on in indiana at his home. he's not there right now because mike pence and his wife just announced a few days ago his daughters had a baby. they're on the west coast with family. the fbi is at his home, and that's because the justice department is continuing to conduct a review after classified documents were found a few weeks ago by an attorney who was doing his own search at pence's residence. it comes on the heels of classified documents being found in the home of joe biden and the office of joe biden, as well as that criminal probe into mar-a-lago having documents. so donald trump's beach house in florida also having documents. and so this search of pence's home in indiana, it was somewhat
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expected, abby. after this attorney had found the documents for pence, they were in touch with the justice department, and they have tried to be very cooperative. we also learned through our reporting that a private attorney is on site at that home, and in the next few days there is another expectation that his office in washington, d.c., will also be searched as parts of this classified documents review. >> and this mirrors what -- how the justice department has reacted also to the biden case going and searching those locations again. on a separate matter, tell us about the subpoena. what is the department of justice wanting from pence by asking him -- subpoenaing him to come in? >> reporter: right. it is a separate matter. it is the criminal investigation being conducted by the special counsel's office of jack smith into january 6th. and the subpoena is asking for documents and for testimony from the former vice president. now mike pence, if you remember back at the end of the trump
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administration, he was witness to so much of what was happening in the oval office. he had private conversations with donald trump as trump was trying to pressure him to block the outcome of the election in the senate. he also was a victim, trump supporters were chanting "hang mike pence" at that time. and up until this point it was unclear whether he would be subpoenaed, his team we knew had been asked for him to provide information, some of his deputies have testified in this criminal investigation. and then pence was out on a book tour talking about some of his private conversations with tr trump. here's pence speaking to jake tapper in november a little about what the justice department may want to hear more from him on. here he was. >> i'll never forget on january 4th we had another meeting. he asked me to hear out his lawyers. i made it clear that i didn't believe i had the authority he was being told that i had to reject or return votes to the states. but we spoke amicably, and the
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president left with the helicopter to go to that rally in georgia. >> reporter: pence is alluding to the private conversations he had with donald trump. now the big question is how much is this criminal investigation going to push for what he and trump were saying, one to one another, and they have never heard under oath in any context from the former vice president. >> yeah, i mean pence has been so guarded in public about what he will say. the question is will he also do that in private. thank you for all of that. let's bring in cnn legal analyst kerry cordero and political analyst laura baron lopez. this is now becoming a bit of a pattern for the fbi at this point. is this what we can now expect going forward when they are trying to teal with these former officials, currents officials even, with -- current officials even, where classified documents
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where they shouldn't be? >> it does show a level of skinsically is important to the -- consistency which is important to the fbi for them to do their job to recover any classified information that might be located in places it's not supposed to be, and then conduct an investigation to determine any further effects of that, whether information was exposed in a way it shouldn't be. then eventually determine whether there's any cull cup ability or whether these were accident. it does seem that they are establishing a practice in these unusual circumstances where senior, high-ranking government current or former officials have been determined to have classified information in their residences or offices where it shouldn't be. and so the consistency is useful, it's important. and it's done in a way that is at least with respect to the current president and former vice president pence in a way that's done in cooperation with them and in cooperation with their lawyers, not in an
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adversarial way. >> the other big question that has loomed at all of this is the other piece of the pattern here. will the doj believe that it's necessary to also appoint a special counsel in the pence case as they did with biden and with trump? >> well, it's unclear at this point if they think that they need to do that. with former president trump the trigger that attorney general garland said made him make the decision to appoint the special counsel was because the former president announced his candidacy for future re-election, so that was a significant factor in appointing the special counsel. president biden is the presumptive nominee, and so that caused them to appoint a special counsel. that point to avoid any conflict of interest since this is the current administration that they had to conduct the searches of
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president biden's residence. so i think it's currently unclear whether the justice department thinks that there is enough information about the pence documents. something beyond just this was an accidental misplacement and it's contained and limited. i haven't seen something publicly yet that indicates they would feel compelled by the attorney general to appoint a special counsel. >> and carrie, turning to the other matter here which we should continue to emphasize is separate, this is the special counsel that has been charged with looking into the investigations, the document investigations related to trump, but also the january 6th investigations. they have now subpoenaed pence. what do you think is going to happen behind closed doors here? do you expect that pence will evoke some kind of executive privilege to restrict his testimony to the special counsel? >> well, i think what's important to note about this subpoena that's issued to former vice president pence is that it was done after a long period of
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negotiation and dialogue with his legal team. so it's not something where the justice department is serving the subpoena out of the blue to surprise him or anything like that. they've been in dialogue with his team. they obviously had gotten sort of as far as they could with where he was comfortable in gauging and potentially a voluntary way. and sometimes a subpoena can be issued because the recipient actually would prefer to be compelled. so in this circumstance i just want to raise that as a possibility, abby, that this may not -- this move by the justice department to serve the subpoena may not be as adversarial as it might appear. it might be that this way the former vice president can testify, he can do so under oath, and he can do so in a way that he is as a matter of fact and also can say that he's following the rule of law. he is responding to a law enforcement demand for his information. >> that's a really good point.
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one last thing before you go and we don't have a ton of time, but are there any tea leaves to be reading here about what stage of the investigation we could be in considering that they've gone already to pence to get the subpoena? >> so the january 6th investigation i think is a really extensive investigation. i do think it marks a progression, so they start at least with his story that he has to tell because they started with his former staff members, gained information that they could from them. and now they've moved to him. obviously it is significant to subpoena a former vice president, and the january 6 investigation is an investigation of national significance. it's not like it's just any old criminal investigation. it's very consequential. and so it does i think mark that the investigation is making progress. but i don't think it indicates that it's nearing the end of the investigation yet. >> all right, thank you, carrie
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cordero. we lost laura in there, live television. but thank you, carrie, for sticking with us. >> thanks, abby. now over to turkey and syria. the death toll from monday's massive earthquake has now surpassed an extraordinary 22,000 lives. tens of thousands of people are injured, and the hope of finding more survivors is fading. even in the midst of all of this death and destruction, there are still miracles happening every day. a teenage girl was rescued today after being buried for 107 hours under the rubble in turkey. and the crews are racing against time to get to any others who may be trapped still alive. in a crowd, a man fought back tears as his parents and four siblings were rescued alive after 102 hours buried under that debris. cnn has more from istanbul, turkey. selma, the world health organization, they are warning of a potential secondary disaster unless more aid gets to
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these quake victims quickly. you are -- as you've been in this distribution center where they're working furiously. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: we're at this massive hangar that they've just turned, as you can see, i'm going to start walking you through it, into this distribution center. there are hundreds of volunteers here. they've formed a human chain and are passing down boxes. they received two million individual donations, and they are working furiously. each of those boxes is packed with the basics for those families, diapers, food, water, sanitation kits, mattresses, and then they take these boxes rights down these human chains that you're seeing here, passing them down, passing them down, and loading them straight up into these trucks here that are going go right to that affected area. they're going to drive straight to those fronts lines. we have four trucks lined up here, four different trucks being loaded up at the same time. all of these humans working as
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fast as they possibly can. if you can believe it, there's a queue outside here. so many people want to volunteer. i know it looks so crazy, but they keep on pulling more and more pallets of goods. it does look a little bit crazy, but they're shouting down orders on these loud speakers. if you want to keep following me to get a sense of everything that is coming through. all of these are packed with everything that someone who has no shelter will need tonight. they know that if they keep working furiously they could make a difference. so far, 250 of these trucks have gone out to thosefrontslines. all of this coming from the people of istanbul. local residents working for turks from turks. it's enormous. a mammoth effort for a humanitarian crisis that is so huge. i'm going to kind you going here. if you speak to any of these volunteers, they're going to tell you the same thing. they're going to tell you we couldn't sit at home. we couldn't just sit and watch these pictures of people
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suffering. i'm going to keep moving, and i know again it's chaotic, keep going with me here. this is how it works. this is how it functions here. everybody's helping out, everybody's pitching in. they keep forming queues, trying to pass these boxes. you speak to these people in the jackets, the ones giving the orders. sometimes they have loud speakers and they're giving orders. if you ask any of these volunteers, they're going to tell you the same thing. they're going to say i couldn't sit at home and just watch people suffering. some of these people have families in the affected areas. this is their way of doing something to help the many, many millions affected here. >> the extraordinary power of human compassion on display with you there, salma. thank you so much for that report. and over to the white house now where president biden's feud with the gop over social security and medicare is still raging. that was the backdrop as biden met with a bipartisan group of governors today. and a big focus were his domestic priorities like infrastructure. joining us now is someone who
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was at that meeting, new york governor kathy hochul. governor hochul, thank you for joining us on a busy day for you i'm sure. >> thank you very much. >> governor, this week the president delivered her "state of the union" address. a lot of people are saying this is also laying the ground work for a 2024 run. yesterday you were a part of a group of democratic governors saying you fully support a biden re-election, but i wonder what more does biden need do to win over some democrats and we know based on the polls there are some, who are still skeptical that he should be the nominee? >> well, president biden absolutely laid the foundation for a re-election run. he will make that decision on his own timeline. he has tremendous supports among the democratic governors, and i believe the people he represents. what he talked about at the "state of the union" and reinforced to us as state leaders is that we have to keep focusing on ways we can create more jobs, whether it's
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infrastructure, whether it's the green economy, semiconductors, all the legislation that he has successfully shepherded through this congress that is now available for us to take to the states and get in the hands of our constituents. so he has a great message. we support him. and also the way he is standing up to protect social security and medicare, he laid down the gauntlet. and no one better get in his way to make sure that we protect the rights that our seniors deserve to have in elder years, they've worked hard in their lives. president biden wants to make sure no one forgets that. >> you brought it up so i'll ask you about this. i mean, that's been getting so much attention, the president's lines at the "state of the union" highlighting what is in fact a republican plan by senator rick scott to sunset all federal laws like social security and medicare. but here's the part i want to ask you about -- republicans are saying that it isn't fair to claim that they're proposing that in exchange for the debt
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limit. i'm just wondering for the sake of clarity, i mean should president biden be more clear about whether that rick scott plan is actually, you know, something that republicans have put to him in negotiations on the debt? >> listen, they have raised it -- this is something they raised at their own peril. literally over a decade ago, i was elected as a democratic member of congress in the most republican district of new york because republicans even then, paul ryan would talking about changing medicare and making it harder for seniors. there are consequences. republicans will lose elections if they continue to tamper with something that has been a right of our seniors for decades and decades. so the president is correct, and he also talked to us about the debt ceiling, that you should not tamper with our faith and good credit because it has way -- consequences beyond our boundaries. it has a global effect. republicans stop playing games, work with the president, continue delivering money and projects to create good paying
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jobs in this country, bring the jobs back home. create the supply chain here so there's so much we can do together. so they should stop playing games, stop scaring our seniors is what they're doing, and work with the president to get the job done. >> i want to move on now to this issue embroiled new york city and the mayor there, eric adams, has asked for more state support, more federal support to deal with the issue of migrants in new york city. first of all, what do you need as a governor from president biden to help deal with this influx of migrants? >> we need assistance at the border to have processing at the border so people can go with already the asylum status applied for. and that is part of the plan he's put forward, that people would start applying in their home countries which will help future migrants. but those who are already in our country, we have to get more federal assistance for their housing, for their education,
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for their health care. as far as the state of new york, we've actually put forth $1 billion in my budget to continue what we've been doing, but also ramp up for more people. greatest solution in our opinion is to allow these individuals to get work permits earlier. we have a 3% unemployment rate in the state of new york. all over the country employers are desperately looking for workers. and all the jobs that president biden and the democrats are creating. whether it's in hospitality, health care, agriculture, working in restaurants. there is so much demand. we just had productive conversations with the top administrative aides about how we can get that changed -- >> did you get any commitments on that? >> we're talking about it. we're talking about it and working hard with them. >> all right. i want to get to one last thing. embattled freshman congressman from your state george santos, you actually met with the bipartisan delegation from new york when you were in washington this week. but reportedly george santos was
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not among them. what do you want to see congress do to tealdeal with him? he's under investigation, accused of all sorts of things including lying about most of his biography. what do you want to see congress do about that? >> i want him gone. i did not invite him to my bipartisan meeting because i didn't think it would be productive, and also he's not on any committees. we were talking about what members can do on their committees. he's a huge distraction for our state. and that's not just from democrats, that's from republicans who in our meetings with the governors and also what i did with my own delegation, people want us to roll up our sleeves, work across the aisle, and start producing results. someone like george santos is not someone who can do that work right now and, therefore, he should move on. >> all right. governor kathy hochul, thank you for squeezing us in between all your meetings on this very busy day. have a great rest of your day. >> all right. thank you. and cnn is learning exclusive new details on the
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china spy balloon investigation. it turns out that the u.s. developed a method to track these balloons lasts year. we'll have all the details on that ahead. plus, a jaw-dropping amount of money. adidas says it could lose from its nasty breakup with the man formerly known as kanye west. ed. with the money we saved, we tried electric unicycles. i think i've got it! doggy-paddle! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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the united states early on in the biden administration. and with that happened the u.s. -- when that happened the u.s. was able to detect particular signals emanating from that balloon. when they did that, they said i wonder if these signals have popped up anywhere before. and so when they did that, when they put these signals kind of through the u.s. intelligence community's holdings and cross checked it with other data, they were able to detect those signals and, therefore, those spy balloons transmitting over the u.s. in other instances including at least three times during the trump administration. now this method is very important because without it it is very difficult if not impossible for the touted keep track of these balloons because they can fly extremely high, they are slow moving. and they're generally not what the u.s. radar detection system is designed to detect. and so this method that was developed by the u.s. intel community just last year and used for the first time just last year has also allowed the u.s. to track these balloons in real time as they transit the globe.
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because as we have learned, the u.s. has also managed to see a number of these balloons crossing over five different continents, as many as 40 of these balloons across five continents. tracking them would be a lot harder if not impossible if they did not have this very specific method that they developed only in the last year. >> really fascinating reporting. thank you for that. turning now to the war in ukraine. russia is escalating attacks with missile strikes hammering much of that country. several regions of the country have been left without power today. but russia's launch of an overpowering spring offensive seems to have not materialized, at least not yet anyway. joining us is retired u.s. army major mike lyons. major lyons, thanks for being here. so it doesn't appear right at this moment that russia has begun this spring offensive. do you think that it is still coming? >> hi, abby. i do. what the russians are doing
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right now is fighting what's called the covering force battle happen. they're doing is sending out small units well ahead of the main body of forces they have. we know there's about 60,000 troops, three divisions that they have in reserve there, in eastern part of ukraine. and they're sending out these small units to probe and find weaknesses in the ukraine military and force the ukraine military to use resources against them. i think this is all part of a grander scheme. there's no question russia has the initiative right now in that region. and this is a part of an offense that's likely started but, again, covering force battling with the military refers to it, designed to show where the enemy is weak. >> and ukraine's military in 2022, in the last year, seemed to have a lot of momentum. they were performing i think perhaps better than the russians expected. but then six weeks later, there are new questions about whether russia has the momentum now. what do you think is playing out on the ground?
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>> i think what's happened is russia has started to learn, and that's got to be a sign of ominous warning for ukraine. if russia is learning to do difficult tactical missions, for instance river crossings, we saw six months ago the russians had a problem crossing rivers tactically and surviving units as they were going on rver. they'll have to perform more difficult tactical missions. we're seeing indications that they're learning from them. that's a real warning for the ukrainian military if that is the case. ukraine will have to do the same things itself if it wants to go the offensive. the river separates the two forces right now, and that's a very difficult technical mission. so on both sides russia seems to have the advantage both in the initiative and then in a learning process. >> tell me a little about the timing here. how critical is the timing in terms of how much time ukraine
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has to train up on some of the new, you know, supplies that they're getting from the europeans, and do they have that time given that the russians seem to be preparing for an offensive? >> i think it's going to be a very difficult mission for them to train up. likely they're in simulators now. i'm sure training in germany, other places. we brought some back to the united states for the patriot missiles. until you get on the battlefield and get in the weapons systems, it's difficult. the tanks are still not there yet. we're seeing pictures of them on rail heads, for example, in poland. but time is not on the side of ukraine at this point. and the russians are going to try to keep that initiative, go on the offensive and make sure that those tanks don't get there. what we haven't seen, though, is the russians try to interdict some of those supply lines. go after rail heads -- that's the only way they're going to make it to the battlefield with any kind of speed and accuracy, and that is to get them there on rail heads. so we haven't seen russia do. that they're going to continue to bomb infrastructure and go after those high-value targets
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there. but russia right now is doing what it does best and that is bring a lot of military power and capacity, move slowly and destroy everything in its path. >> and we're also seeing them really going after civilian targets, as well, which has been devastating for the ukrainian people. retired u.s. army major mike lyons, thank you for all of that. up ahead for us, adidas just revealed just how much its bitter breakup with kanye west could cost. and it is a simply staggering figure. we'll have those details next. so adding a student title might feel daunting. national university is herere to support all your titles. national university. supporting the whole you.. if your bubusiness kept on employees through the pandemic, getrefunds.com can see if it may qualify for a payroll tax refund of up to $26,000 per employee. all it takes is eight minutest. then work with professionals to assist your business with itsorms and submit the application. go to getrefunds.com to learn more.
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the sports wear giant adidas is putting a dollar figure on its very-profile and very messy breakup with kanye west. and like kanye or ye as he is called now, it's a lot. cnn has more to break it down. vanessa, how -- i hesitate to ask, how much money are we talking about really? >> reporter: this is an expensive breakup. i want to walk viewers back to how we got here essentially. october, 2022, was not a good month for kanye west. he wore a white lives matter shirt to a paris fashion week event, got a lot of criticism there. got into a fight with p-diddy.
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tweeted anti-semitic comments. more ranting and more anti-semitic comments on a podcast which ultimately led adidas to terminate the partnership in october. so what is that costing adidas? wow. $1.3 billion because of this breakup. and why is that happening? that's because they have an estimated $1.3 billion of unsold yeezy merchandise. so they simply can't sell it anymore. so what they're looking to do is possibly, possibly rebrand the items, but part of this partnership was that people wanted to buy it because they knew it was yeezy. and another thing they can do with this merchandise is ultimately destroy it or donate it, but that doesn't get them any money back. potentially rebranding could get them a couple hundred million dollars back. but you know, this partnership between yeezy and adidas was so lucrative for about a decade, but wow, just $1.3 billion in
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the hole now because of this breakup. >> yeah. and that explains why in your earlier graphic it took them a couple weeks between some of the initial statements from kanye west to get to that several represents part. they didn't want to lose that $1.3 billion. but separately, the "wall street journal" just reported not about beyonce concert tickets but about this clothing line that she has with adidas, ivy park. it is despite all of the buzz around beyonce, suffering from weak sales. what's going on there? >> reporter: yeah. you know, beyonce may have broken records with the number of grammys she's won, but she's not breaking records with adidas right now. according to the "wall street journal," sales dropped 50% last year compared to 2021. so it brought in about $40 million. that's the ivy park line. however, the projection from adidas or the target from adidas, rather, was $250 million. that's what they were hoping to get. so they are down in terms of what they were hoping to make by
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$200 million. now according to adidas, they're responding to the "wall street journal's" reporting on this, they say nope, the partnership is strong, and it's successful. beyonce not commenting on this right now. however, what she is doing is on instagram she's posting that there's a new ivy park drop this week. so there's a new line of merchandise coming out between the two. but projections, according to the "wall street journal," for this year not looking much better. $65 million in sales for ivy park. they were hoping to target $335 million. that is a huge difference. i think all of this begs the question, abby, are these celebrity partnership deals really worth it for brands? at least when it comes to beyonce and kanye west, the numbers are not painting that picture. >> i mean, if it doesn't work for beyonce, i don't know who it's going to work with. i can't -- you know, there are not that many huge mega-stars out there, and she's one of
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them. so it really is a cautionary tale. vanessa, thanks for breaking that down. >> thanks. and coming up next for us, the former police officers who were charged in the brutal beating death of tyre nichols could soon face a new legal trouble. we'll explain why next. no matter your purpose, at pnc private bank we will wowork with you every step of the way to help you achieve it. so let us focus on the how.. just tell us - what's your why? ♪3, 4♪ ♪ ♪hey♪ ♪ ♪aryou ready for me♪ ♪are you ready♪ ♪are you ready♪
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now-former officer initially said that nichols tried to grab his partner's weapon. now video does not corroborate that. and the fired officer then backtracked on that claim. cnn's nick valencia has been following these developments for us. nick, what are we hearing from the district attorney about the discrepancy between the claims and what the video evidence shows? >> reporter: hi there, abby, this has turn into a sprawling investigation into the past criminal cases. nil nay p anything where the district attorney brought criminal charges. and right now they're telling me one of the good things is that these officers weren't on the force for that long. rather than looking at hundreds of cases potentially, we're potentially talking about dozens of cases. the bigger question, though, is right now they're going to look into the five officers. but does this investigation expand beyond them, and you know, are they going to look at the entirety of the scorpion unit which is about 30 officers. in that case it would be quite a heavy lift for the d.a.'s
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office. abby? >> yeah. it raises some serious questions about how far -- how far this goes within that memphis police department. thank you for following all of this for us. >> reporter: you bet. and a defibrillator saved damar hamlin's life when his heart stopped on that football field, but some high school athletes in that same situation may not be so lucky. the results of a cnn investigation up next. what if it had happened a few miles away from here? >> it would have been a totally different outcome. you can do cpr until you're blue in the face, and it's never going to restart the heart. ♪ ♪ ♪
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- [announcer] do you have an invention idea but don't know what to do next? call invent help today. they can help you get started with your idea. call now 800-710-0020. this week, nfl union doctors said they were optimistic that the buffalo bills' damar hamlin will play football again after experiencing a rare cardiac arrest on the field last month. but what if he had still been in high school, and suffered a similar event? would he have gotten the same treatment? well, our dr. sanjay gupta investigates that issue. >> he went down. >> we're going to need off. >> when buffalo bills safety damar hamlin collapsed on the field in january, pete lake immediately thought about his son, peter. >> it really brought back a lot of emotions and still that's the
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truth. >> reporter: two years ago, then a high school freshman, peter lake was playing defense for the loyola dons against the mcdonald eagles. he was right around the 20 yard line, and what you're about to watch is the exact moment his heart stopped beating. >> i went to the ball, i stepped in front of it and i justify got hit. i've done that many times before. >> i kind of even winced, like, just thinking in my head that one is going to hurt. >> reporter: jeremy para is the assistant athletic director and trainer at his school. that sunny day, he was watching diligently from the sidelines. >> this shot was pretty hard. i was watching peter instead of the course of the action of the game. and i started looking for what was going to happen next. and then just like that, i got dizzy and i just, like, blacked out. >> i could hear first. he had some ajginal breathing.
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he's prone on the ground. i checked for a pulse. we didn't have one. >> reporter: the diagnosis, commotio cordis, a rare phenomenon. let me show you exactly happened to peter. his heart here is contracting and relaxing. that's a normal rhythm. but at the exact millisecond the heart needs to recharge, that's the little bump here, the lacrosse ball hit the left side of his chest. as a result, his heart never got the chance to relax. it starts fibrillating instead. peter goes into cardiac arrest. and the clock starts ticking. what was that like for you? >> didn't have time to think. with no pulse, no breathing, we needed to get the ad and ems activated as soon as possible. >> reporter: and in peter's case, it all worked. and fast. two to three minutes. but watching all this as a
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parent, i couldn't help but wonder, what if this were my kid's school? your kid's school? as part of a cnn investigation, we learned that nowadays, at least 20 states have laws requiring aeds, and in reality, about 70% to 80% of schools have at least one defibrillator on hand. but how accessible they are, that is the real issue we uncovered. what if it had happened a few miles away from here? >> it would have been a totally different outcome. you can do cpr until you're blue in the face and it will never restart the heart. it is 100% access to an aed within a very timely period. >> reporter: turns out, where you live makes a big difference. for example, in ohio, in michigan, more than 70% of public schools had aeds, but in locations that simply couldn't be reached in time. in oregon, just half of schools had an aed accessible within four minutes of all sports
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venues. and in vermont, despite 81% of schools having an aed, just 16% of them had them located at fields or arenas, and about half the time they were in the school nurse's office or the lobby. >> this is an example of a -- >> reporter: we learned athletic trainers are critical and schools that had athletic trainers were more likely to have aeds. the chance of survival from a cardiac arrest nearly doubled to over 80% if an athletic trainer or aed were used. but as things stand now, a third of the country's schools don't have anyone in that position. >> all athletes should be afforded the same resources that we have here at division one athletes and college have, and professional sports as well. >> reporter: that's the thing. its availability and access. both are crucially important. and it is one of the most important things you can do for your kids. make sure aeds are available, and accessible in your kids'
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school. it saved peter lake's life, and allowed for moments like this. >> dr. sanjay gupta, thank you for that really important report. that does it for me here. "cnn newsroom" will continue right after this. lomita feed is 101 years old. when covid hit, we had some challenges. i heard about the payroll tax refund thaallowed us to keep the people that have been here taking care us. learn more at getrefunds.com.
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