the 12-year-old was watching the lakers playing the golden state warriors when suddenly the all-time scorer lebron james sat down next to her. >> i asked for tickets. i thought lebron would break his record. even as he broke, i'm oh, my gosh, congratulations. i'm like congratulations already. when i heard he had a foot injury i was sad. we didn't know if he was traveling with the team or not. then when he ended up being down here, i'm not that tall, obviously. i could only see his shoes, i looked up and saw lebron james. what's going through my mind, oh, my god, the greatest player in basketball was sitting next to me. and i just freak out completely. >> wow. game of a lifetime. she even took some pictures with

the nba legend. all right. thanks for joining me, i'm christine >> going to throw it as far as his arm can take it. and the kansas city chiefs have won super bowl lvii. >> that was pretty amazing. kind of a lackluster finish like you expected. >> just right down the middle of the field. it was great. congratulations, kansas city. the we're excited. poppy so excited she's on assignment. it was a thrilling super bowl. the kansas city chiefs are champs again. ahead, the top highlights from the historic face-off. that is in a moment. and rihanna, breaking internet. i kept thinking oh, my god, pleasen don't fall. >> i know. >> her stunning performance.

big news she reveals during the halftime show. she didn't really say it. but -- showed it. >> yeah. >> also this morning, the u.s. shot down a fourth flying object over north america. raising more questions about why so many objects are being spotted now ahead norad's former deputy commander over seas the american skies. >> spotted or just being shot down? we'll tell you about that. also, more than 160 hours later, survivors are still being found. >> narrator: -- under the rubble. the death toll surpassing 36,000. we're live in turkey straight ahead. we'll begin with three mysterious flying objects shot down by u.s. fighter jets. we still don't have a clear explanation from the pentagon or white house about what they are or where they came from. they were different shapes and

sizes. it was shaped like an of course at d.c. an o-- an octagon and had strings hanging from it. and saturday suspected chinese spy balloon that flew across the united states was also flying much higher around 60,000 feet. the pentagon says it will sort through all the wreckage of the different objects to figure out what they are exactly. people want to know. we should -- let's bring in our cnn national security reporter. good morning to you, natasha be bertrand. is it more of them or just shooting them down because of first one? >> the u.s. military said they have changed their detection filters and made it easier to detect the objects traveling above a certain altitude and at

a certain speed. but, look this is an unprecedented series of events. the military doesn't know what the objects actually are. >> reporter: the u.s. on edge dispatching fighter jets to shoot down another mysterious object in michigan on sunday. the incident is the third time that the u.s. military has shot down an unidentified object that was assessed to pose a threat to si civilian aircraft. >> this is the first time within the united states or america airspace that norad or the united states northern command taken action against an airborne object. >> reporter: on friday and saturday, u.s. jets shot down two more objects near alaska and over northern canada. they were flying at around 40,000 feet and have balloon like features with a small metal cylinder underneath. sunday's object over lake heron was at 20,000 feet and described by officials as octoganal with

surveillance capabilities. it prompted bipartisan criticism from lawmakers. >> i have real concerns about why the administration is not being more forthcoming. part of the problem here is that both of the second and third objects were shot down in very remote areas. my guess is that there just not a lot of information out there yet to share. >> reporter: after a chinese spy balloon went into the u.s. earlier this month and also shot down, the north american space defense command re-adjusted filters to better spot slow moving targets operating above a certain altitude. which may be leading to more detections. but officials say they won't know more about the objects until they can recover and analyze all of the debris. the incidents have also raised questions about whether similar objects have simply gone undetected in the past and whether shooting each one down is the right response. >> what's become clear in the public discussion is we don't really have adequate radar systems.

we certainly don't have an integrated missile defense system. we're going to have to begin to look at the united states airspace as one that we need to defend and that we need to have appropriate sensors to do so. >> so, don, pentagon faced a lot of questions last night about whether this is the in you norm. about whether the u.s. military is going to be shooting down every one of these objects as it detects them. they're going to adjudicate this on a case by case moving forward. >> thank you very much. we're also still waiting for the white house or the pentagon to explain what they know about the flying objects, what they learned and whether or not dchia is potentially responsible. that's president biden saturday night ignoring reporters shouting questions as he was hosting governors at the white house. our senior white house correspondent m.j. lee is covering the story. m.j., the big question is what is the white house saying about this this morning?

>> yeah. you know, kaitlan, it is remarkable that we didn't hear the president on any of this over the weekend given that we're talking about three object that's were shot down at his direction in as many days. you know, pentagon and other administration officials have given some information after each incident. what the american people have not gotten yet so far is sort of a full explanation from the president on what to make of all of this. should people be concerned? is there reason for alarm? one democratic congressman i was speaking to just last night, he was saying to me that the silence frankly is odd. especially given that people genuinely are freaked out right now by the headlines. but as of this morning, as of right now, we don't have any indication from the white house that the president is going to deliver remarks. there is nothing on his public schedule. the pressure is mounting for him to address the situation in a bigger picture way as these incidents and these headlines come out. >> is part of it because they don't have the answers

themselves? is that why we're not hearing more full explanation from the white house? >> yes. absolutely. that is a likely explanation for why we have not heard from the president in this way. as of this weekend, as natasha talked about, folks are still trying to get a better handle on what exactly these objects are, where do they originate from and is there real reason for concern? there is a real risk, according to people that we have been speaking to, of putting the president behind the podium and asking him to sort of address the situation that he doesn't have a complete picture of yet. there is a plan to do that. there is also a growing urgency here on the recovery efforts as they try to figure out and get the debris and analyze the situation and figure out what these objects are so that the white house can hopefully communicate better on what exactly is going on here. >> all right. m.j. lee, we'll wait to see if we do hear from the white house on this. thank you. ahead, we're going to speak to

norad's former deputy commander. what he says about why the objects have been missed before and what it could mean now? also this -- ♪ we are the champions my friend ♪ ♪ we'll keep on fighting to the end ♪ >> i'm kind of wondering what philadelphia looked like last night and this morning. kansas city chief fans there celebrating victory in super bowl lvii. the second championship win in four years. star quarterback and nfl mvp threw three touchdown passes and even rallied after reaggravating an ankle injury. did you see that? i saw it. unbelievable. he led his team to a defeat of the philadelphia eagles. 38-35. we have the plum assignment live in glendale, arizona, with more.

so what did you think? >> what a game? this is the most evenly matched super bowls we have ever seen. featuring the two most tall kae -- talented coached teams. there were stunning running touchdowns, passing touchdowns, defensive touchdown and superstar hovering high like a diamond in the sky. this game had it all. >> reporter: history made at super bowl lvii. the chief's patrick mahomes and eagles jalen hurts shining in the most highest xog super bowl and one featuring two black starting quarterbacks for first time. the grass was an issue at times. players losing footing repeatedly in the first half. and mahomes will get his ankle rolled up on. same one he injured a few weeks ago. the mvp rijiin pain. the grass would have no effect on the halftime show.

♪ who's going to run this town tonight ♪ >> nine months after becoming a mom, floating on plate form high above the field, rihanna pulling off her first performance in seven years and doing it with another baby on the way. a rep for the star confirming to the hollywood reporter she's pregnant during this come back performance. speaking of come backs, chiefs and mahomes come out on fire in the second half with three consecutive touchdown drives. and with the game on the line, mahomes took off on a soar ankle, grinding out a long run deep into eagles territory and then the play eagles fans won't soon forget. a defensive holding call on james bradbury. >> i was hoping he would let it go. it was a hold. >> reporter: that was all the chiefs needed. the game winning field goal. >> for the second time in four

seasons, the lombardi trophy has a red and gold reflection! >> mahomes super bowl mvp for the second time in his career. >> how do you put all of this into per inspect sniff. >> it's hard, man. it hasn't even sank in. i don't think, to go from a team that wasn't -- i wouldn't say majority picked to win the afc west to win the super bowl. that speaks to the guys in the locker room. >> how do you describe how tough patrick mahomes is? >> he is the greatest player ever. that's what he wants to do. >> toughest son of a gun you ever met, man. that texas gunslinger ain't going to let nothing get in the way. >> once in a lifetime generational player, man. and sometimes he just does things so special it is normal for him. and we just got to appreciate pat, man. >> andy reed cementing him sest as best ever and overcome with joy after the victory. >> it means a lot. i could kiss you right now but i won't do that. >> you know, at the time my

brothers and teammates is the best family in the world. >> we're the best! >> we're the best! >> oh, man. i mean, you know, i love jalen hurts. so this is hard for me to see him go down like this. he had such a good game yesterday. i loved what he said. you either win or you learn. >> yeah. he always talked about formative experiences when i spoke to him that helped him become who he is. dating back to his high school days and before he got to alabama. and patrick mahomes listening to him talk after the game, he said, you know, if the eagles won that game, jalen hurts would have been the super bowl mvp, not me. so so much respect from patrick mahomes. jalen hurts and eegagles have s much to be proud of. >> that ankle injury or when they re -- whatever you want to call, exacerbated the situation, everyone -- i was watching was

like oh, my gosh. i went oh, yeah. because then he's going to fight through it and he's going to become a winner fighting through the pawn and the super hero guy. and that's exactly what happened. it was fascinating to watch. >> yeah. the strongest steel is burning the hottest coals. we see greatness come out of the moments of which you're speaking, don. it was really sweet afterwards. i reminded patrick that it was ten years ago as a teenager that he tweeted how great to say you won the super bowl. now he won his second super bowl. this is fwgreat. the first time i went to disney world. now i'm going to disneyland. he is headed there this morning with his wife and two churildre to celebrate a heck of a win. >> i love him and his relationship with kelce. they jump into each other's shot. >> once in a generation. >> thank you, coy. appreciate it. >> he must not have slept at

all. >> i didn't sleep much either. i stayed up and watched the after, after, after game. crazy. >> hard to look away. all right. also happening, we're tracking another international development. that was israelis protesting outside parliament this morning against prime minister benjamin netanyahu and his controversial judicial reform plan. it aims to give lawmakers way more control over the supreme court. and as this move is inching towards approval, you're seeing a lot of the fear about the legislative branch that is going to potentially have unchecked authority. cnn has a reporter there trackin tracking the story our live shot is a little touch and go. what you are payou are hearing from the people? >> kaitlan, for weeks, tens of thousands are protesting in tel aviv. largely seen as the more liberal city in israel. today on a monday, many thousands have gone on strike from work and decided to come

here to jerusalem to the backyard of the legislators, of the parliament. that bill, that reforms went through the first committee hearing today and essentially this would allow the is uzi isr parliament to overturn with a simple majority. this is the road that past the supreme court. you can see the amount of people. we have a sea of flags. we've seen a lot of lgbtq flags. we heard lots of chants not only against this judicial reform but also against the occupation. we've seen tents about palestinians. this is capturing not just a mood about the judicial reform but this government and benjamin netanyahu in general. kaitlan? >> we'll stay with you as you get more updates. thank you so much. also this morning, outrage is growing as the human teri catastrophe that we're seeing is deepening across turkey and sear

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the death toll in turkey has taken almost 36,000 lives. we're learning more about the recovery. here a man was found after 167 hours under the rubble. one of the latest in a series of recoveries. this baby was also rescued after being hungry for 108 hours. he's in good health and doing well so far. but this comes as anger is building among some of the survivors over the government and turkish president's handling of the crisis. the government's initial response was slow. our reporter is in southern turkey. it's kind of hard to even see what is behind you. what are these recovery efforts looking like this many days after? >> yeah. kaitlan, it's a really good question. we're now in -- going into day eight since the earthquake

happened. this is just one area in one city and this is a city that did not see a lot of help in the beginning. it is way, way up. it was hard for people to get here. now they are here. but they are facing this kind of destruction. this is actually two separate buildings that collapsed. we're told you about the people who were here when it happened that the first building collapsed, they called that the bad building. one that didn't seem to be built properly to withstand the kind of shaking that these two earthquakes actually brought to this area. and the second building, it was actually collapsed upon by first building. so you have this horrible effect. there are 200 or so people living in these buildings. and i want to show you something. now the heavy equipment has come. and they're starting to try to dig out.

they do believe yesterday that they heard potentially someone alive in this incredible amount of concrete. what you're seeing, if you take over to the right, taking pictures, you see people standing there. some people are here to try and do some work. and some people on the other side, let's swing the camera over here, if you look along the street, if you come with me and we're going to try to be careful of the work that's going on, but if you look along the street and standing along here, these are family members. these are people that are simply hoping beyond hope that their loved one is found. some people are hoping that they're found alive. but many people are hoping that they can at least see a body here so they can bury their loved ones properly. we have seen mass grave sites already because there are simply too many people. we're talking more than 30,000

people now who have died in this earthquake. but every day, even eight dawes on, every single day we're hearing of rescues. we have seen one ourselves. we were able to speak to a child that was rescued after seven days in the rubble. and here they pulled someone out just today. they hear signs of life in another part of this city. but the destruction cannot be underestimated. it is all over the place. you can drive for miles and miles and suddenly you're seeing more and more piles of rubble. now you'll notice that there are buildings standing. but most of them cannot be occupied because if we were to take you up, there are cracks all throughout that building. and no one feels safe enough to stay in them. they're not safe to be occupied. so people are in the streets. i want to mention one more thing. a lot of people don't think about this. all they want to do is see their family members. they're stuck in this rubble. i don't know if you noticed all

of this dust all over the place. the reason i had a mask , the reason i'm wearing that, there is chemicals and a ton of -- [ inaudible ] >> all right, sarah, having trouble with the camera work there. there is not a ton of service on the ground. we're going to stay with her. we're going to focus on the human aspect of that. you saw the families waiting for news about their loved ones. we'll check back in with sarah in the 8:00 a.m. hour. we're also following another major story. three objects have been shot down over the united states and canada over the last three days. a lot of questions. the form drer director of operati operations at norad is going to join us. >> he's a very famous guy right now. the house speaker kevin mccarthy come turning to the five families of his conference as he tries to raise the debt ceiling as they cut spending.

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i mean this is like a fascination for everyone. everyone is wondering what is going on over the skies of north america? three more objects shot down so that makes four. are there more things floating up there or just being more vigilant now? the air force general in charge of norad that, is north american aerospace defense command says we have a lot to learn. watch this. >> i would be hesitant and urge you not to attribute it to any specific country. we don't know. that's why it's so critical to get our hands on these so we can further assess and analyze what they are. >> all right. so we don't want to get ahead of ourselves. we want as much information as possible. let's talk to scott clancy of norad. he was deputy commander of the alaska region. good morning to you. thank you so much. we appreciate you joining us here on cnn this morning. i'm sure this is a very business

dw -- busy time right now. the takedown of the first balloon was the first time they have taken kinetic action against an airborne object over the u.s. airspace. there are four objects shot down now. so what is going on? what are your concerns? please explain to us. >> i think you're seeing the confluence of two things. the first thing is what general vener, my old commander, referred to as intelligence gaps that existed with our systems of detection across north america. as he said in his briefing after the initial shootdown of the chinese attributed balloon, they have since closed those gaps. and it's been referred to as to adjusting the filters on the systems. i think there is maybe a little bit more to that. but what it does is it allows these systems to be seen more often. the second thing, and this is just conjecture from my perspective, i think you're also seeing the confluence of

distinctive activity to test the systems. i think it's the confluence of both things that were producing these number of events. >> does that mean you think it's china? >> no. i do not. i think that the general's prudence with respect to atlast three is good. i think the tension that's already exist and the relations between china and the united states particularly but let's just say china and the western world over the straits of taiwan and the economic dealings, over the flooding of the international laws, canada has been contradicted in a couple things. making sure we can recover them is smart. i think it smells to me as the guy who was directed to conduct

operations to defend north america, i would be very suspicious. i'd be on high alert to make sure that all of our adversaries are countered. >> can you follow something you said. you said to test our system and why now? why so? i think that's what we're trying to get out of the recovery and the analysis of the pay loads of the devices that have been shot down. it's not just where they were. it's not just the critical infrastructure or defense infrastructure, nuclear fields that they flew over. it's also the type of sensors that they had onboard. and then finally, what you're really trying to ascertain is whats what the overall intent of the doing this with these devices that time? it looks to me to be a concerted effort because you have any more than one object.

then it looks like a coordinated effort. and it might not be over the infrastructure that you fly over. you might fly over infrastructure, attempting to see inside of our networks or command and control system. the reactions so that you can play out the reactions for the future. >> since you were the former deputy commander here, what can happen once they detect something like this? you know, they scramble the fighter jets to go and investigate. and then when do they make the call to shoot something down? what is the threshold for that? >> that's a great question. we would detect with the long range radar systems or be cued by national intelligence of canada and united states of upcomin upcoming event or event occurring inside the zone. at which point in time in the region we would make either my commander or myself would make the decision with respect to

launching alert aircraft to be able to respond. now those alert aircraft will go. and alongside of awacs or airborne early warning systems that have very long radars and associated tankers, we would inspect those objects or what we would call targets of interest. once an identification is made, you heard the canadian minister of national defense saying on the device that was shot down in the uconn, that they wanted to establish visual identification which is why they waited for daylight. twh once that identification is done, that is important to delineate exactly what you're dealing with. is this a civilian aircraft? is this a military aircraft? what is it? up until that point in time, it's only a radar contact. it's at that point in time that norad headquarters in colorado springs will describe those elements to the national

authorities of canada, united states. they'll explain them to both. however, the decision to take action will be with the sovereign authorities of either one of the nations that the object is in. so, for example, it would have been the canadian prime minister that ordered the shootdown for the object in it ucon. if it was in american airspace like alaska that, would have been the per vview of american authorities. >> how do you tweak the way we detect such things? like, how do you tweak that? how do they charnge it and why? >> this has been an on going effort to make sure that those of us who are charged with the defense of north america are maximizing the systems that we have right now. i think about radar screen that is full of little dots and all over that screen. a human is trying to interpret all of the radar contacts. it becomes difficult f your

primary threat is from aircraft that travel at hundreds of miles an hour, then you're going to adjust to gain or filter to weed out all of birds, environmentals, and as such you weed out also balloons that are low speeds. at which point in time you're not going to see the targets. the second thing is that the radar system that's we have in norad have, you know, their very old now. and we've been lax in modernizing the norad infrastructure to be able to deal with this. if you apply data management systems, machine learning and ai on the back end of existing radars, instead of a human trying to interpret those things, machines are able to bring that data out and interpret them for us so we're more effective. i think you're seeing boning of these things happen. >> fascinating. fascinating. thank you. retired major general scott clancy. we appreciate it. it's interesting that we --

they're having to swetweak it rt now and what they're having to do on the back end. fascinating. >> yeah. >> many of this year's super bowl ads featuring big hollywood names, the favs and flops. that's next. plus this -- >> you know the rules. ♪ where have you been all my life ♪ >> rihanna turning her highly anticipated super bowl halftime show into a pregnancy announcement. we have highlights from the performance. we'll analyze it. ♪ have where have you been all my life e ♪

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following her performance, rihanna's representative did confirm to the hollywood reporter, yes, what you saw is true. she is pregnant with her second baby. the grammy winner welcomed he had first child with her boyfriend last may. joining us to talk about the moments is the host of the c carrie champion show. what did you make of the rihanna concert that also had a football game going along with it? is. >> accurate description. accurate description. first off, i this that i there was so much anticipation around whether or not she would bring someone out. and they were all the prop bets surrounding who she was and what she would do. but to me, she brought out the biggest gift of joy there was that, was a child. and i want everybody to understand, they were wanting to see more dancing and more this and -- i thought that was amazing she was pregnant and decided to announce that on

national stage. that took so much out of her. >> look, i thought it was great. you're right, people wanted more. but kind of like it when entertainers just stand there and sing and entertain and not, you know, sometimes they try to do too much. i was just nervous -- i kept saying, please nobody fall off the floating things. i hope she is strapped in. that made me nervous. >> yeah. me too. and you can see, i thought at one point -- i tried to interpret what i thought was happening. you could see she was a little nervous too. first of all, i can imagine not being nauseous, but second of all, there was a lot of anticipation. she said days leading up to this she has not performed in over five years. she was very nervous about the performance. she was nervous about what people would say. but i felt like that was a great iconic moment for women. without diving too deep into this, don, fweewe feel we can'te

a child in the prime of our careers. she's unapologetic. i think that say big moment. that is symbolic. >> people have to remember, i don't know if it's fair to qualify this as her side gig. she really makes money on the business. from her cosmetic company. that's why she is a billionaire plus. it's because of her cosmetics, not because of the music. the music is great. she's got two gigs. she's a businesswoman and entertainer at the same time. so props to her. >> yes. and also, i'll tell what you else stood out to me, did you notice, she -- you talk about her being a businesswoman. she took the moments to, like, do her makeup, right? you saw her. >> yeah. she definitely tied it n i love. that i thought that was so smart. you're right. she is very honest about what it was like going into that. i love that. she admitted, you know, i am nervous and hesitant about this. we look forward to seeing what she does with this platform going forward. >> bye, thank you.

>> thank you for talking to me. see you. >> bye. >> okay. so let's be honest, there are really thee things people tune into the super bowl, football, kind of, performances and ads. >> i do look familiar? >> no. >> should i be in it or -- >> i want you. >> what are you doing here? >> i got to go, guys. >> grab me a glaze. >> you are excited about buying an electric vehicle but worried that it could leave you unsatisfied? then you could be one of many americans concerned about premature he lek trifiction. >> what are these? >> we call them popcorners. >> say their name. >> popcorners! >> yeah! >> those commercials also are a

way to check the pulse of the mesh economy. the biggest day in american sports which is also the biggest day in american ads is a use if will measure of which firms and sectors believe themselves to be the future of the economy and why it's an excellent abobarome of bubbles. joining us is our axios media reporter. so listen, the mood from the country, is it fair to say that commercials represented that or did they -- are they to steer us in a certain direction? >> they absolutely represented it, don. if you think back to the pandemic a few years ago, brands were afraid to be too funny. they didn't want celebrities to be cracking jokes. a very somber time. now fast forward, we just came out of a pretty rough year in 2022. and i think a lot of brands were leaning into the fact that consumers just wanted to have a good time. you saw a lot of brands being very funny. fewer of those sent mental

tearjerkers. we had a few. we had a ton of ads that leaned into america's vices, tons of ads for binge watching tv and tons of ads for all sorts of junk food and snacks, et cetera. >> what i notice as watching this, there weren't any crypto commercials. last year there were a ton of those. if you look every single commercial was a crypto one. of course, we have seen what happened with that. what does that say to you? >> there are reporting that a bunch were booked. but then given the fallout around ftx, the advertisers pulled out of the game. you know, there was a lot of financial service that's were still represented as well aztec companies. you had everything from e- trde to door dash and google. if there is an industry st struggling, don't expect them to show up he is super bowl.

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he can't pass a play with cuts. the hard right demands the deepest cuts that mainstream republicans won't vote for. and i'll tell you, my experience in this, the party that holds out with brinksmanship loses. we're going to win this fight and it will be a clean debt ceiling. >> confident prediction there from chuck schumer. we're covering all of this live from capitol hill. it stood out to me yesterday we heard from james comber, congressman comber, he said he would like to see what the republican plan is as soon as next week. basically, they still have not landed on a plan yet themselves. >> not yet. kevin mccarthy is trying to change that. he is trying to show that republicans can get the 218 votes needed to pass the spending plan. one of the chief criticisms is they can't negotiate among themselves let alone negotiate with the white house. so kevin mccarthy is trying to prove everyone wrong and strengthen his own negotiating hand in the process.

not to mention in the absence of the gop plan, democrats started to speak for them. you remember that state of the union moment last week when biden suggested republicans want to cut social security and medicare which they insist is not true. we'll see what they come up with. there is another aspect to kevin mccarthy's strategy. that is he wants to show his own conference he is going to be inclusive in this process. he convened a meeting last week with the so-called five families, the different wings of the republican conference. also a "godfather" reference. there but it is still early. but it does offer a good window into kevin mccarthy's management style. this had is going to be so important for kevin mccarthy because he knows that these debt ceiling talks are going to be a make or break moment for his speakership. >> it is fascinating. five families. just become the accepted term that kevin mccarthy is using to describe that congress. we'll see how accurate it is. thou thank you for the great reporting. the u.s. military shoots down a fourth object in eight

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i have real concerns about why the administration is not being more forth coming with everything that it knows. part of the problem here is that both of the second and the third objects were shot down in very remote areas. so my guess is that there is just not a lot of information out ther