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satellite here, jim sciutto and erica hill both join us. first of all, everybody -- a couple things. super bowl, that's top of mind, right? and these objects that are over the sky. which one do you want to talk about first, guys? >> we are brought to you by satellite not by balloon, just so you know. >> important clarification. >> important. >> you guys won't be shot down. >> the administration has to answer questions here because it's happening with such alarming frequency now and there is not a lot of clarity as to who exactly so sending these, are they a threat, do you have to shoot down every one? that the new world we are in? it's a dicey time, particularly between the u.s. and china. >> especially while they're still waiting to recover some of what was shot down, that only ups of anti in terms of questions and people want answers, understandably. >> did your team win? i know rihanna won. >> i was team rihanna. we won. >> i like the halftime show.
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my team was telling me -- i was like rihanna is floating above the field like 100 feet. that to me is cool. >> yeah. >> scary. >> speaking of flying objects. she looked great, though. all right, guys, we know you have a busy show ahead of you so we will let you take it from here. >> enjoy your day. >> have a good day, guys. >> very good morning to you this monday, i'm jim sciutto. >> and i'm erica hill. so this morning president biden is facing pressure to respond after the u.s. military shot down three unidentified airborne objects in just three days. right now st officials are working to recover the remnants of those objects. so far no indication as to whether they have any connection to china's suspected surveillance balloon. >> a lot of open questions. while the pentagon says there was no military threat but security officials across north america are on alert. this morning the biden administration is firing back after china is now accusing the u.s. of illegally flying high-altitude balloons into chinese air space, more than ten
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times they say in the last year. all as officials in a northeast chinese province claimed they were preparing to shoot down an unidentified flying object as well this weekend. for more on the trio of objects shot down by u.s. fighter jets over the weekend, let's begin with cnn pentagon correspondent oren liebermann, also mj lee. first to you, oren. can you tell us what we're learning about the new objects shot down this weekend and what exactly -- or how much of a threat the pentagon believes them to be? >> so to recap, there was one object shot down over alaska on friday, one over canada saturday, northwest alaska, and then the one over lake huron pretty much right before the super bowl. the problem is the pentagon hasn't really put out a description of what we're looking at or what these are, simply describing them as objects. they are very small in size and the pentagon has said they don't believe they posed any military threat, but because of that their altitude, between 20,000 and 40,000 feet, they were roughly where commercial air
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space flies so they were viewed as a hazard to civil aviation and for that reason were taken down. there are recovery efforts in all three cases but crucially the objects have not yet been discovered so we haven't gotten a better description of what it is the pentagon is looking at or what the additional concerns may be. adding to the confusion, we've heard from a few u.s. officials including jake sullivan describing these as balloons but the pentagon won't quite go that far in saying that these are balloons. last night a pentagon official did say that there are a number of other entities such as companies or research organizations that launch objects into the atmosphere, into the skies, suggesting perhaps that's the explanation here. but they haven't come in on one explanation and said, this is what's responsible. they have said that they are very different, not only in size but apparently in terms of capabilities as well, from the chinese surveillance balloon that was shot down off the coast of south carolina about a week and a half ago. so we do know that much. but a further description still very much wanting in this case,
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especially because these were objects shot down in u.s. air space and that's a key point here. now, also adding to the confusion broadening out the story is the accusation now coming from china that there were objects in chinese air space. that got a forceful reaction from the pentagon which said the u.s. doesn't have a surveillance balloon program, that's china that has that program. erica and jim? >> yes, the back and forth will continue. mj, as we look at all of this, president biden is facing intense pressure this morning because he has been so quiet about all of this over the weekend. what are you hearing from the administration? any plans for a more public discussion or statement from the president? >> reporter: not as of right now, erica, but you are absolutely right that it was pretty remarkable that over the weekend we didn't hear the president engage on this issue once. you know, the fact that there were three downed objects at his direction by the u.s. military in as many days and nothing yet from the president is pretty notable. we have of course heard from pentagon officials and nsc
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officials and others after each incident to sort of share information and share information about what they can say, but that's been pretty limited so far, right, and what the american people have not gotten so far is sort of a comprehensive address, an explanation coming directly from the president on what they should make of all of this. should people be concerned? is there reason for serious concern? one democratic congressman i was talking to just last night said the silence just strikes him as odd given that there are people across the country who are genuinely freaked out by these headlines that they are seeing, but there is no indication at least as of this morning from the white house that the president will be giving remarks or speaking to this. so we will see if the fact that his public schedule is empty right now if that changes over the course of the day. but, you know, one likely explanation for why he hasn't spoken yet about this again in the comprehensive way is that u.s. officials very much are still trying to figure out what
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these objects are, where do they originate from, do they give us reason for concern and there is a sense at the white house and among people close to the president that sort of is making him speak about this issue and get behind the podium and address the public at a moment when he clearly doesn't have a full picture that there are political risks to that, but he may be speaking about something that he doesn't quite fully understand and that u.s. officials don't quite fully understand, but i think all of this goes to show why the recovery effort that is under way of the various debris and the objects that have now fallen, why there is such urgency there as u.s. officials try to gather as much information as possible, analyze the situation so that hopefully in the coming days the white house can give a better explanation for what exactly is going on here. >> mj lee at the white house, oren lieberman, thanks to both of you. joining us now to digest cnn military analyst general wesley
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clark. good to have you on this morning. first i wonder if i could get your view. nato secretary general stoltenberg said that china and russia have been increasing use of balloons and other intel gathering aircraft in this space here, near space or somewhere between 30,000, 60,000 feet. in your view is that a new and major threat in terms of intelligence gathering? >> well, i think it may fill in some gaps that the chinese and russians don't have covered in their own satellites surveillance programs. insofar as its collecting information it would be used in targeting against us or exploring our own research with a low level electronic warfare and things like this, yeah, it's a threat and we don't appreciate t don't want it and they don't have the right to violate u.s. air space. >> so what's your level of concern this morning, general? >> you know, right now what we
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really need to do, erica, is just unpack everything that's happened. we're certain that the first balloon that was shot down off the south carolina coast was a -- was a balloon for reconnaissance. got signals coming off of it, got pictures of it, watched it, watched its trajectory. okay, we're going to get the pieces of it, we will assemble it, maybe there was a self-destruct mechanism in it so some of it may be burned in addition to whatever damage the sea water does to it. the other three objects they don't seem to have the same signature. could they be reconnaissance? sure. could they be from russia instead of china? sure. could it be from north korea? of course. could it be some misguided effort by some fishing fleet trying to look for salmon off the coast of alaska and it got disoriented by the wind? you know, we need to really get to the bottom of it. so there's -- you know, first
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reports are almost always wrong. >> yeah. >> so let's give the president and his team time to really get into it before we start making announcements. >> let me ask you, then, in that fact-finding space that we are in now, is shooting them all down the right response because you do have genuine risk of escalation, now you have china threatening to shoot down what it says is a u.s. balloon near its base but i think -- my mind goes to u.s. uncrewed drones flying around china but then of course crewed surveillance aircraft as well, there is a risk of escalation. >> there is, but the first balloon -- the second balloon, the one that came over -- from alaska, was shot down over yukon that has a threatening traj trajectory. i don't know how the balloon over -- the second balloon that was shot down this weekend or the one yesterday, how they got there, but they are in civilian air space so they are hazards. so one has spoken up that i know of. we haven't heard some research foundation from california
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saying, oh, no, no, this is the next thing for satellite broadcast of internet so please don't shoot it down. no one was taken credit for it from the united states. i think it was a hazard to aircraft and let's see what the facts show. maybe when people wake up on monday and they look at their reports from their balloons over the weekend they will discover that this balloon is not reporting, they will call the pentagon and they will acknowledge they did something that was a hazard to civil aviation, but i'd say the odds are probably hostile activity. >> so you believe it's probably hostile. the assistant secretary of defense for dhs on sunday said the reality, too, is that they've increased surveillance on the heels of that chinese surveillance balloon and that's part of what's leading to seeing more activity, more things being shot down. do you believe it's that simple? is that the explanation? >> i think, you know, when you are looking at the sky if you are looking for something you're more likely to see it and so we've been tuned to look at jet
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aircraft and incoming missiles. we haven't tuned our radars, we haven't alerted aircraft and searched to look for balloons. now, we are, maybe they've been here for some time, maybe it's a new program that's coming against us, but, sure, we do have the capacity to spot these things if we set up our raerds and put the right systems in place and if that's a concern then we should be looking for it and it seems to be a concern, if not real, then it's political and we want to make sure we've got confidence in our own national security. >> general wesley clark, always appreciate your insight. thank you. >> thank you. well, this morning the death toll from the earthquake in turkey and syria now exceeds 36,000 people, just staggering, and while hope is fading to find survivors, still shower seeing incredible rescues. overnight a woman who had been trapped in the rubble for 175 hours was pulled out alive. >> eight agencies, however, and
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authorities are warning that the chances of seeing more miraculous moments like that understandably they are becoming increasingly slim. sara sidner is live in turkey this morning and quite a scene behind you, my friend. what are you finding? what are you hearing from folks on the ground there? >> reporter: the devastation is just so enormous you cannot get your head around it. what you are seeing is just one spot where destruction is everywhere, but in every street there is a building and some streets there are multiple buildings that are just crushed, pulverized by the weight of the building, smashing down on itself. you are seeing right now people looking for potential people alive, but more likely people who have died, and i do want to give you a sense of how you're seeing this view from a bird's eye view. we are standing on a bridge that
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goes right over the street. it is perfectly fine, there is no bowing, there is no cracks. what this speaks to, because you see some of the other buildings as well, if you look just past the rubble there is a building that is still standing, and what you are seeing many people have been complaining about is that some of these buildings are just not built well. they are, as someone said, bad buildings that have crumbled in the face of a 7.8 and then a subsequent 7.6 earthquake. those are huge earthquakes, make no mistake about it, but you can definitely see the difference between how some buildings have with stood them, even though they are damaged, and how some buildings have pancaked, which is a definite sign that something is wrong. and the government is now going after dozens of people, investigating them for bad building practices. i do want to give you a sense, though, because we have this bird's-eye view, we are on this bridge looking down at all of this. if you look to the right, you
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just go past these tables, you will see people sitting there. they have made makeshift stoves, they are drinking coffee and tea, which is very common in turkey. they have wonderful, wonderful tea, but they are sitting there because they are waiting for the potential of their family members to be rescued or recovered. family after family after family sits in the absolute freezing cold waiting to see if there's any signs of life or even at this point if there is any signs of their loved ones so that they can give them a proper burial. we have seen so many scenes of sorrow here and that's the hardest thing to take. the buildings are buildings, but the people here who are dealing with this know that they will be dealing with this for months if not years to come because it is such a vast destruction area across southern turkey. i do want to let you hear from a
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woman we spoke to, erica and jim, who was so distraught and she's just one example of what people are going through now as she waited to try to find the body of her husband. >> translator: there is nobody out there, it's been six days. i'm waiting here with my twins, standing in the cold. my life, my blood, my everything, my best friend in life, he left me with my twins here alone. >> reporter: she has twins, they are 11 years old, there is a girl and a boy, they were also out there waiting to see if their father would finally be recovered. that is just one of hundreds of stories like this. we now know up to 35,000 people have been killed and there are still hundreds more that they believe are trapped or dead in these collapsed buildings. back to you guys. >> i can't imagine those vigils, those poor families standing by
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those buildings waiting for -- well, slim chance of good news. sara sidner, thanks so much. still to come this hour, one of former president trump's attorneys confirming they do plan to challenge the justice department's subpoena for former vice president mike pence, so will that claim of executive privilege hold? we will ask a lawyer. plus, the baby bump that stole the show at the super bowl. ♪ i'm alive ♪ ♪ we're like diamonds in the sky ♪ rihanna confirming after that blockbuster performance dangling above the field she is, in fact, expecting baby number two. we have all the highlights from the big game. >> that was the special guest. later i will speak with the former president of ukraine petro poroshenko after a weekend of massive shelling in the east. signs that a new russian offensive has begun. you could earn yourr master's degree in less than a year for under $11k.
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donald trump's attorneys says the search for classified documents at the former president's properties is done and that his legal team has handed over additional records, including a laptop to the justice department. >> in other words, they found more. the trump lawyer confirmed his legal team found the additional classified material during a search in december. cnn legal affairs correspondent paula reid is with us. paula, you spoke to trump's attorney. what more did they find and where exactly? >> so he tried to dismiss this entire controversy as just the problems with how documents are packed up at the end of administrations. he said that's a problem for trump, a problem for biden, for pence but clearly it's more complicated for his client. he confirmed in fact they did find additional documents with classified markings in december, they handed those over to investigators, but, jim, they also had these same documents that had been scanned on to a laptop belong to go a staffer for a pac. so i asked him how is it that a staff member of a pac has access
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to classified materials? now, he insisted she just thought she was copying schedules, she didn't realize there were these classified materials in those boxes. look, that's not a great explanation. >> that's also the responsibility of the person with the classified documents to protect them and not allow access. >> exactly. one of the big questions is trump has been out of office for two years, how is it that classified materials keep turning up? they also turned over a folder marked classified evening briefing and he explained where this folder was and why he had to turn it over. let's listen. >> he has one of those landline telephones next to his bed and has a blue light on it and it keeps me up at night so he took the manila folder and put it over it so that it would keep the light down so he could sleep at night. it's just this folder, it says classified evening summary on it, it is not a classification marking, it's not anything that is controlled in any way, there's nothing illegal about
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it. >> so using a folder like that to block the blue light on your nightstand, we also know that a similar folder is on display at a trump bar at trump tower. it as i told the attorney it's a flippant attitude toward classified information. tim dismissed that and said this is just stationery but it speems to how the former president feels about the investigation. special counsel jack smith is firing off new subpoenas, targeting very high profile witnesses including former vice president mike pence, former national security adviser robert o'brien and the trump legal team told me that, yes, in fact, they do intend to try to block some of that testimony by asserting executive privilege. it's unclear how successful they will be but that will definitely likely drag this investigation out. >> if there is a folder you wonder what are the contents of those folders. >> is there nothing else you can use to block the blue light? a lot of questions. >> paula, thanks so much.
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joining me to discuss elie honig. always good to see you. in terms of privilege, let's pick up there. so trump's attorney told paula yesterday, look, if they are not going to give us a whole list of questions then we are going to say assert privilege to everything because in his words you can't let the doj run roughshod here over everything. how common would it be for prosecutors to offer up the questions in advance so that a decision could be made on whether executive privilege may apply? >> so that would be very uncommon, erica. there is no rule or law requiring prosecutors to do that. typically you don't want to tell your witness in advance what exactly you're going to ask, but here is the problem prosecutors have in this case, if there's going to be a legal challenge to executive privilege as paula has now reported there will be, the judge is going to have to make those determinations question by question. it's not going to be a ruling on executive privilege sort of in the abstract. eventually each question will have to go in front of the judge and be decided. so really prosecutors have two
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choices, one is they can say, fine, bring us to court and we will handle each question at the time in front of the judge, the other is to say come on in, we will ask you the questions and you can answer some and maybe not answer others. ultimately the specifics of the questions will have to land in front of the judge. >> so that's going to happen. timing would come into play here, which we've been talking about from the moment we knew that there was a subpoena, right? in case executive privilege was brought into play here by the president, with i now we're learning about or of course if the vice president had said i'm not going to comply. o which one of those two options makes more sense for investigators? >> if doj wants to move this quickly they would send out the list of questions. it may not be in their best interest strategically but if they want to move this along as quickly as possible they give the questions now and they can go into court and say we object to this question, this question, not that question. there is a timing issue. we are already two and change years out from january 6 and it's going to take time. if there is going to be an
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executive privilege question over some of this stuff, you're going to have to go to the federal district court, whoever loses there will certainly go to the federal court appeals, whoever loses there will try to get to the u.s. supreme court and even if this is super expedited, erica, you are looking at four to five months minimum to get this legal dispute resolved. >> i thought it was interesting -- the question that paula asked, the question that i had, too, why would somebody who was affiliated with a pac have access to those documents, have them on a laptop? it was explained away as they didn't realize, they thought it was just schedules. in addition to, well, there are legitimate questions about how the white house handles its transition. that may be true, we're learning that. but based on everything we've learned about both what was discovered and the attitude toward it, could this trigger any sort of additional investigation or request for another search? >> so to me that new piece of information from paula is really important and i think really concerning to prosecutors and to the intelligence community because before we had these hard
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copy documents, we've seen the photos of them splayed out on the floor by the fbi during the search. you are talking about pieces of paper, but now we know those pieces of paper were replicated electronically, scanned into a computer. who knows? was that the only laptop, were they emt mailed, scanned, transmitted by any other way? now the genie is out of the bottle and i think prosecutors have to figure out were they scanned, replicated, sent out any other means. >> elie honig, always good to talk to you. thank you. >> thanks, erica. still ahead, a night of big athletic and musical mvp performances at the super bowl. look at the moments folks are talking about the most this morning. what were your favorites? plus, the special guest on stage with rihanna during her halftime performance, a surprise. ♪ let's go! ♪
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♪ they did it. kansas city chiefs super bowl champions, again, after beating the philadelphia eagles 38-35. pretty exciting game, even for someone who doesn't follow football that closely. mvp patrick mahomes overcoming an ankle injury in the first half, leading the chiefs to their second super bowl win in four seasons. it was great football field, great action on the field, and great action above it. that halftime show rihanna's stunning performance on those platforms floating way above the field, a montage of some of her
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biggest hits but there was more news. that's not the only thing that had people talking. ♪ when you hold me i'm alive ♪ ♪ we're like diamonds in the sky ♪ >> she was rubbing her baby bump there. that was news. after the performance her representatives confirmed she is pregnant with a second child. that's quite a special guest. >> yes, indeed it was. she had teased a special guest and she certainly delivered. when it came to the highlights in between the plays, too, the commercials, which is what a lot of people watch for, let's be honest, this t-mobile ad starring bradley cooper and his mom certainly had plenty of people laughing. >> i don't like the way you look. >> does t-mobile really have a 5 -- >> america's largest 5g network. try it again. >> oh, my [ bleep ]. you look like a flamingo in this. >> america's largest 5g network. >> you who can i help new hi,
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how are you? >> you're making me crazy. >> joining us now to discuss eric dagans. great to have you with us. that was a fun one. i was sitting with my son and i was like is that really his mom? this is very cute. it was adorable. that one was adorable. actually a few good ones, i think a lot of duds, but definitely a few good ones in there. what's your number one? what stood out to you? >> well, first i want to say you guys didn't play the coolest part where he says i've been nominated for nine awards and she goes, yeah, but you didn't win. >> you didn't win. that was so good. >> that's your mom moment. yeah, thanks, mom. thanks for bringing me back down to earth. >> thanks, mom. well, i would say what surprised me about the ads was that i felt one of the most effective ads was a really simple ad, it was an ad for the farmer's dog which is this company that makes fresh dog food, and it's a very sentimental ad about a young girl who has a puppy and she kind of goes through her life,
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she grows up, the puppy grows up with her and by the time she has her first child the dog is right there and she promises to love the dog always. that sums up how dog owners feel about, you know, their puppy, children, and it's sentimental and tells a story and you don't have to spend a bunch of money for celebrities or special effects, just tell a story that is embedded in the heart of your product and that makes people feel good. >> sometimes a story rules. so personally i tend to like the ones that push the limits a little bit and there was definitely one last night that pushed the limits, that one on the premature electrification. let's play a clip from that one. >> are you excited about buying an electric vehicle but worried that it could leave you unsatisfied? then you could be one of many americans concerned about premature electrification. symptoms may include fearing you might not be able to last as long as you'd like. >> there was plenty of charge
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before and sometimes it goes away. >> a lot of times. >> i've been working a lot. >> being unsure if you have enough power to handle your payload. >> i don't know if i've got the power for this, baby. >> i'm adventurous, i like to go all the way, i don't want to have to question if we're even going to make it. >> the wife's reactions were the best there. i mean, i don't know, what did you guys think of that? >> so good. >> jim, are you trying to tell us something? >> thank you, eric. >> i'm just -- oh, my goodness. >> i loved that ad because number one i love the guy who is the narratnarrator, but it's a way that's poking fun at the idea of you want -- you know, people are worried sometimes that an electric vehicle wouldn't be as strong as a gas-powered vehicle so it's their way of kind of poking fun at that and i really kind of love that. >> it was really clever. i'd love to talk about ben and j.lo with dunkin' because i love a good massachusetts accent but we don't have a lot of time so
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let's talk rihanna if we could. >> sure. >> where do you think it stacks? look, i thought she was great, i was team rihanna in the super bowl but overall what do you think this morning? >> it's so hard to compare these things because, you know, every act brings their own uniqueness to it. i think for people who were rihanna fans this was like going to church. i mean, she sung -- you know, an amazing cavalcade of a dozen or so hits, she was really well showcased and on top of it all she's doing it while she's pregnant. you know, my estimation for her is that talent and ability and her tolerance for heights just kind of went through the roof once i saw not only that she was doing this amazing performance but, you know, she was doing it, you know, while she was with child and of course all her fans also loved the way we all found out about this. so, you know, the emotional impact of it, you've got to score it up there.
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at least among recent super bowl halftime appearances. for me i'm a stone prince fan so prince is always going to be my boy as far as, you know, most impactful, but she did an amazing job and i was really impressed in the end by everything that she pulled off. >> and how about her own commercial, right, for fenti. she is one hell of a businesswoman, too. >> and floating. >> as the rumor goes the artists don't get paid for doing those things. i don't blame her for turning the halftime show into an ad for fenti as well. >> eric deggans, we will keep talking about it. thanks so much. >> thank you for having me. we are covering a lot of news this morning. coming up next nato's latest assessment on ukraine. they say russia's new offensive has begun. i will speak with the former ukrainian president petro poroshenko right coming up. hey bud. wow.
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right now u.s. defense secretary lloyd aus season on his way to brussels to meet with counterparts from 50 nations the war in ukraine top of mind as the u.n. secretary general stoltenberg warned we are seeing the start of a new russian offensive against ukraine. one ukrainian official said there was record shelling in the eastern part of the country and also show heavy losses for russian tanks in that area. joining me now former ukrainian president petro poroshenko. mr. president, thanks for taking the time this morning. >> thank you. >> you heard the nato secretary general there saying this morning that a new russian offensive has started.
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i wonder, do you share that view? has it begun? >> absolutely, but this is not starting like that on monday. i was on this weekend in the south and the ukrainian artillery brigade, the artillery intelligence and reconnaissance now report there are very promising figures about how we attacked the russian tanks and how many -- how big is the number of russian tanks that were destroyed and russian soldiers were destroyed. this is the brigade of russian marines who make an offensive operation there and this is how ukrainian armed forces destroy all the plan of the russian troops. but definitely russian new offensive operation is launched. they want to receive certain success on that one-year period from the launch of full scale
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aggression and we definitely need to concentrate how to stop new putin crazy attack. >> u.s. officials i've spoken with doubt that russia has the manpower and the equipment to make real progress with the new offensive and i wonder if you share that assessment. >> look, one year ago all the world said that the second biggest russian army in the world do a bilitz creek and no one believe we can destroy russian offensive potential. we do that here, near kharkiv, near kherson and we definitely try to do our best. what we need for them very much welcome the decision about supply for us the more than
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1,000 -- this is at least for aid brigade and this is exactly what we need. definitely we very much welcome the tank solution, but, please, start with the more simple things. troops need ammunition, we need 105 artillery and this is vital like urgently now. we need a radar system against russian drones and we need air defense against russian missiles. please, time is a key factor for that. we have one of the best armed forces in the world which is fighting for the freedom and democracy in the world we need very simple things, ammunition. >> it sounds like you're saying with these pleas here that you're not getting the help you need and fast enough. is that your view?
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>> without help of our western partners situation would be significantly more difficult. this is the key factor for our victory. if you want i can give you all together at least three factors. weapons, which we need from the west, sanctions which we need from the west to cut putin's ability to finance, and nato membership. this is the key factor for the future, victory for the future peace and we need just to be more sophisticated. the second thing i am happy when i speak with him during my last visit to -- to the america and i'm confident that we need to accelerate and i really admire the great leadership of the united states, the bidep biden,
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secretary austin in this ramstein agreement to assist ukraine but we need more and everybody knows about that because we are fighting not only for ukraine, we are fighting for you. >> former ukrainian president petro poroshenko, thanks so much for joining us and please be safe. >> thanks a lot. just ahead, he warned officers he had a heart problem as they continued to tase him. now an investigation is under way after 32-year-old man died shortly after that encounter with north carolina police. what officials are now saying next.
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the favorites? >> well, this is just released over the weekend back on january 17th before 2:00 in the morning, and this is a month later getting a look at the video, and i want to warn you that this is disturbing after the nation wa watched the beating of tyre nichols at the hands of the memphis police department. and now, this is in raleigh, north carolina, when there were emphasis patrols of criminal activity, and police officers will patrol a certain area to tampen down certain calls. so you can see the police officers approach the car of darrel williams, and they say they saw an open container, and
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that is when they came to arrest him and that is the probable cause, but williams is asking the police officers over and over, what is happening? why are you doing that? that is when he is running from the police, and he is tased by multiple police officers, and i wanted you the hear one of the incidents or part of the interaction where he was tased two times within just less than a minute and take a listen. >> and what is this? >> put your hands behind your back. >> three, two, one. hands behind your back. >> please. >> let go of -- >> bro, yo. >> put your hands behind your back now. >> bro. >> hold it. hey, wake up. >> yeah, we got one.
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yeah. >> he is breathing. >> but moments later, he was no longer breathing. police officers say they were not able to find a pulse, and just about ant hour since the initial interaction with the police officers and going to the hospital, he was pronounced dead. the family members of this man, darrel williams say that they believed that the officers used excessive force when they tased him. i spoeblg to ke to the legal representation, and they don't believe that the officers had probable cause to detain him. and the mother of darrel williams wants justice and more information of exactly what happened, because what she says she is seeing on video, and what the police department reported
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to her do not line up. >> the cries of him as he is being tased is heartbreaking. >> and now, the controversial plan to overhaul the judiciary. >> with a lot of self-interest it seems with facing criminal charges himself have some supreme court changes with a simple majority. and hadas, this would be a constitutional change there in jerusalem, and is this going to happen? >> yes, it would be a huge overhaul in the judiciary reform if it were to pass, and most importantly, it would allow the israeli parliament to overturn a court decision and that is why
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tens of thousands came out to protest, because today is the day that the bill came in front of the justice committee. it did pass the committee, and this is why the people came out, because they were hoping that their voices would be heard within the halls of parliament, and many of the protesters here, they see the reforms of ruining the independence of the judiciary and helping benjamin netanyahu in the corruption trial, and what many deny, because they believe it is the beginning of the end of the israeli democracy, and president biden weighing in for a statement of to new york times asking for a consensus to be built and that is the best way to be built to avoid divisions. jim? >> hada gold for us there. we will be back. ♪ to guide you through a changing world. ♪ the hiring process used to be the death of me.
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