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moldovan government and the moldovan people. >> you have no confirmation? >> i have no independent confirmation, but we're certainly not questioning the capacity, the will of the russians and mr. putin to try to do that. it's perfectly right -- a page right out of his playbook. >> yes. i was going to ask you a question. just one quick question -- is it lighter than air or heavy ier than air? >> we have not. >> all of the three shootdowns occurred offshore but the one in canada was over land. is there policy to not shoot over land because of safety concerns? >> i wouldn't read into some kind of policy decision. we will always, in deciding whether something should be taken down or not, consider the
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impact on the ground. >> when the chinese foreign ministry indicated that they would respond in the way they were prepared to. and it turns out the other objects are chinese origin, is there a menu of options prepared for how we deal with that? >> terrific hypothetical. we're just not there yet. >> on to the relationship issue, the chinese spy balloon, you got china buying more oil from russia. you got china opening up cases in u.s. technology from u.s. universities. and president xi is going to be meeting with the president. and at what point does the president ask for a call from president xi? >> again, i don't have a call to talk about today. again, let me say here, i know i'm running close on time, sorry -- >> no, it's not your fault. >> -- the president met with president xi at balanci.
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at the g20, the whole purpose was to move the relationship. the most consequential bilateral relationship in the world, the president knows that. and he wanted to move that forward. and secretary blinken was dang near wheels up to beijing to have those kind of conversations to get some of these venues back on track, whether it was climate change or military to military. we were looking forward to do that. then the chinese decided to fly a surveillance balloon over continental united states. and it wouldn't have been appropriate to have that meeting. when are those discussions going to get back on the calendar? i couldn't tell you. as secretary blinken has said, it will happen at the appropriate time. now is not that time. it doesn't mean, and people shouldn't take away from this, that all communication has been severed between the united states and china, that beijing and washington aren't talking. we still have an embassy there. we still an ability, through secretary blinken's good offices to communicate with senior
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chinese leaders. and fortunfortunately, the chin military is not interested in talking with the secretary and lloyd oaustin. >> what about the relationship -- has this list of things set back the relationship? >> it's certainly not helped us move forward in the way we wanted to move. >> in the back. and that's the last question. >> no, sir, no, sir. right here. >> okay. >> oh, thank you. last friday, you answered my question about president biden's message during his trip to poland. but i'm wondering why he specifically has chosen poland for this trip, since so many countries are helping ukraine? and he visited poland a few months ago.
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>> the president's really looking forward to this trip. certainly not lost on showing it's timed around what sadly is going to be a year of war in ukraine. poland has been a strident ally, a tremendous supporter of ukraine. and a generous host, not only to american troops, but millions of ukrainian refugees, who have fled there in safety. the poles are, pardon the pun, they're punching well above their weight, and we very much appreciate all the support. the president wants to thank president duda in person. he wants to thank the polish people in person. he wants to make broader points how it's important for the kind of unity we're seeing with the poles continues sadly into what will be a second year of war. >> okay. >>le we have to end the briefin.
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>> naturally, i have two questions. one on the unexplained aerial phenomena. and the second will be on the russia/ukraine war. my understanding is the top officials at the pentagon, when asked explicitly if they were ruling out any kind of extraterrestrial presence, they weren't ruling anything out. and yet, at the beginning of today's briefing, albeit with her usual warm smile, this jeanpierre seemed to talk about -- >> i don't think anyone has to worry about aliens with respect to these craft. period. there's nothing more to be said on that. >> on the anniversary of the war, we heard from the cia director in congressional testimony that president putin had been observed by u.s. officials to have constricted his decisionmaking circle, during the pandemic, that he was
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making erratic decisions and these were seen to have played out in what happened on the battlefield. as we approach this year anniversary, what do we observe about president putin's decisionmaking now, the caliber of his decisionmaking, and also his grip on power in his own country? has any of that changed over the course of the year? >> i can't speak to the way mr. putin gets advised and how he -- you know, who's advising him and what they're saying. i wouldn't begin to get inside kremlin decisionmaking processes. clearly, mr. putin is not making good decisions. shouldn't have invaded in the first place. this is a country that posed no threat to anybody, let alone russia. clearly, he hasn't made sound decisions nor has his military with respect to performance on the battlefield. they're still suffering the same problems they were a year ago. logistics, sustainment,
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integrate of pojoint fires, manpower personnel, unit cohesion. i could go on and on. the military is still struggling they were not surmounted the problems it's borne out by the problem he continues to change generals the way i change socks. she's still struggling. >> i have to end the briefing, i've got to go into the oval. i will see you tomorrow. and thank you for the compliment on the smile. i appreciate that. we just heard from john kirby. i'm victor blackwell. welcome to "cnn newsroom." >> and i'm bianna golodryga. moments ago, the white house responding to the national security mystery unfolding miles up in the skies. now in just three days as we noted, the u.s. shot down three unidentified flying objects, actions american military has never taken before until this past friday. the white house just explained the u.s. made the move as a
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precautionary step. >> because we assess that they weren't manned and weren't being controlled, therefore, left to atmospheric conditions, the real risk to safety flight was a problem. even though we had no indications that any of these three objects were surveilling, we couldn't rule that out. and so they're -- you know, you want to err on the side of safety here in terms of protecting our national security interests. >> in the last hour, we are learning now details about the latest object that was shot down sunday afternoon. it was the smallest and lowest flying to date. an onlooker reported this video of a fighter jet scrambling over the skies near lake huron. >> a senior administration official said sunday's object was at 20,000 feet shaped like an octagon with strings attached. just then, it took over a
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cylindrical object in canada. and then friday, another object down over dead horse, alaska. now, national security officials say all three mystery objects are smaller than the spy balloon from china. the u.s. brought that one down a little more than a week ago. cnn's jeremy diamond, natasha bertrand is here. jeremy, we'll start with you, there are plenty of questions but what we learned from the white house about these objects. >> yeah. i think what's important to note, this is a clear effort from the white house to try to address the public's concerns after we saw three a additional foreign objects shot down. and the united states was not caught flat footed on. and john kirby made that point repeatedly going back to 2020, the u.s. discovered this program by the chinese. and also the president had received a briefing back in june
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2021, about his broader phenomenon of unidentified objects. what happen we got today, is a sense of why president biden chose to shoot down the objects over the weekend. making clear that public safety was a top concern here. john kirby denied there were any political pressures, when asked the question by our phil mattingly, he said it was a question of safety. and he also said, one of the reasons that the u.s. is perhaps discovering these objects they're also looking for more. tweaking some of the setting on k norad radar. >> one of the questions we're seeing more is because we're looking for more. as you heard general vanherck mention last night. they have modified the filters, or the gains, as we call it, in radar capabilities to look more
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discretely at high altitude, small radar cross-sections and low-speed objects. >> and john kirby also said these objects were shot down out of an abundance of caution here. but these were decisions made directly by the president on the advice of his top advisers. kirby also said they're not tracking any additional objects today. and we also heard from the white house press secretary jeanpierre, at the top, they hadn't ruled off that the objects are extraterrestrial pi wanted to make clear there's no evidence to linking these to exetraterrestrial activity. >> and from justin trud eau ove the weekend.
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natasha, you have new details. what exactly are you learning? >> what we're learning, the objects shot down over alaska and northern canada over the weekend, the object shot down friday and saturday, they actually had similar characteristics in that they both had payloads. what does that mean? that's essentially a small metal s cylinder that is on the object to potentially collect surveillance. but it's unclear whether they had that capability. and then we're learning that the object shot down over lake michigan yesterday, that was octob octagonal. and apparently, all three of these had month propulsion systems. they were not self-proposeellin. and it was unclear whether they were controlled by a force but
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more likely by the wind currents. these are interesting details, but still do not get us any closer to understanding what these objects actually are, or importantly, who sent them. i think the point that jeremy made is really important, though, that the biden administration is now insisting that the reason why they are learning more about this is because norad, after that chinese spy balloon transited the u.s. last week, changed its filters to widen the aperture of objects they're seeing in airspace. that could be the reason why they're detecting more. however, officials are cautioning that this cock the cit could be the case that these are sent there and obviously a new policy that the u.s. is employing yard to whether or not to take these objects down in that. >> natasha bertrand and jeremy diamond, thank you so much. joining me is mark asper who served as secretary during the trump administration.
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mr. secretary, thank you for joining us. given what we know to date about these objects at least two of them had payloads and obviously, the lower altitude at which they were flying, do you think it was the right call to shoot them down? >> i think it was. i think whenever you have unidentified aircraft entering your airspace, you have to put your sovereignty, your security first. and you also had the safety of civilian air flight that the white house has talked about. for those reasons, i think that makes sense that they did this. >> the administration thus far says there's no indication of a connection between these three downed objects and the initial chinese surveillance balloon. what is the basis in your view in that conclusion as preliminary as it may be right now? >> i don't think you can make that conclusion yet. i think we need to see from the wreckage and from the forensics
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of the wreckage. my hunch is these are not chinese surveillance balloons. the axis came from the north as compared from the west with the initial balloon. i guess are these are probably weather balloons or scientific balloons or something like. but boy, if these are chinese balloons it says a lot what is going on in china and what we're up against if indeed that is the case. >> how would you rule that out? >> again, we have to do the forensics. i'm glad to see that the administration is taking a more proactive approach. they're clearly discriminating what happened early, they're recalibrating and making decisions earlier. i think that's a good thing when it comes to airspace and sovereignty. i suspect many other western nato allies are doing the same thing. >> do you believe what admiral kirby said one of the reasons why we're seeing more of these is perhaps we're looking for them more and even the change in filter and enhanced technology.
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do you think it's as benign as that? >> absolutely, i think what the administration was caught off guard last week or so with the chinese spy balloon, there was a political backlash to what happened. dod went back, recalibrated what it's looking for. adjusted its filters. the security was probably briefed. you, so you have a lot more folks at norad looking closely that were identified maybe in the past that were either ignored or overlooked or disre disregarded. it's really going to drive a vev review of our policies and procedures of which we act on, manned or unmanned. military or civilian research, you name it. i think it's going to drive a big policy point that seems to be overdue. >> it seems to be overdue as you were in the trump administration. as you know, you had been on the air you had not been aware of
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any chinese balloons. subsequently, we found there were at least three that traveled across. and attributed to a domain awareness gap. had you been briefed on that gap and does that concern you at all when you hear admiral kirby saying china may behind the balloons and they have more sophisticated satellites on earth and that this might be something they do in the future, enhance the balloons? >> yeah, i few questions there. first of all, i've not been briefed. i did get outreach from the d & i, and we have yet to schedule to get the top briefings that they have. as you rightly said, when i was secretary of defense, we didn't have this awareness. nobody came in rushing to say we had chinese balloons over us. as the administration has said, we learned later, going back and looking at the data, that this was indeed happening. so, my sense is now that they've closed that awareness gap with regard to adjusting their
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filters. we do know we need to modernize our radars up along the norad line. i think we need to enhance it with artificial intelligence machine learning. but all of this is going to help us better surveil our airsairsp. look, w with regard to the chin, they found a gap and they've been doing the same thing in 40 countries and five continents. and the balloons are most notably over a target area, and we saw that in montana. >> what do you make of the fact that the chinese military does not have any intention of reaching out or responding to requests to speak with secretary of defense austin? >> you know, the chinese response on this has been all over the board. they began with denial. then they said it was the balloon. then they played the victim card
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and got angry and threatened us. look, we need to keep the lines of communication open. i think they should be reaching out to us, not us to them to kind of resolve this. the relationship is going downhill, we need to find the bottom and build it back up. but we the american people, the western allies, democracies of the world should not be disabused of the fact that the chinese have a strategic, and that is to dominate the pacific. and change the rules to suit the needs of the chinese communist party and that's what we're up against in the 21st century. >> thank you for your time. >> thank you. and the number now up above 36,000. some of are defying odds like this 25-year-old woman pulled from the rubble 178 hours after the earthquake. more of these stories ahead. id connect with an advisosor to create your personalilized plan. -let's find the right ininvestments for your goals okay, great. j.p. morgan wealth managememen.
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from the plains to the coasts, we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive. it's now been a full week since that catastrophic earthquake hit parts of turkey and syria. the number of people about 36,200 now. so it's astounding that today we're still seeing rescues like one. a 25-year-old woman recovered
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alive after 178 hours buried in that rubble. >> unbelievable. hours later at that very same rescue site, a 13-year-old boy named kahn was pulled from ash and rock on to a stretcher and carried down to an ambulance. >> just hearing of that miracle right there, that boy being alive. the turkish health minister just placed this video where rescue workers placed an oxygen mask on a young girl after she spent 178 hours under the rubble of a building and asked if he'd like to eat a bagel. she also wants strawberry milk as well. >> the least they can give her at this point given what she's been through. cnn's nada bashir is in istanbul. nada, seven days without food or water.
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what more are you learning with how the rescues are being carried out? >> reporter: well, bianna, victor, these rescues have been a remarkable feat. it's not just turkish rescue teams, of course, it's teams from the globe flying in to take part in that rescue effort. and that's laid out there, it's still continuing. we're still seeing miraculous rescues a week on. in the last hour, we learned as cnn said, that a 10-year-old girl was pulled out of the rubble, after 185 hours being buried there. these remarkable feats are giving many people in turkey hope. it has to be said that the rescue effort is quickly now shifting to recovery efforts for those still waiting for news from their loved ones hoping they're still alive underneath the rubble. that hope is dwindling fast. and of course the hope is shifting from those who have
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been lost in the earthquake, but lost absolutely everything. and here, aid and emergency assistance has been coming in in the last week, there are 20,000 volunteers working around the clock this last week at the distribution centers to sort through the aid and humanitarian assistance to deliver that to the affected southeast region of turkey. so far, more than 200 trucks have left this distribution center heading to southeast turkey. there were two ships as well that arrived in qatar with that medical care sent from that city. i have to say, it's a ground swell of support. people are happy. every time the truck leaves the building, the cheers and clapping can be heard around this huge warehouse. but there are concerns, still, the coordinators say this isn't enough. they need more support, more aid, more donations. not only from the turkish
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government, but also from the international community. of course, it has to be said, that the aid we're seeing being sent around to southeast turkey is far more robust than the aid and humanitarian assistance that has crossed into northwest syria. an area where 4 million people were already so heavily dependent on humanitarian assistance. the u.n. says it's now working with the government in demarcus to get aid to the rebel-held territory in the northwest. volunteers there say it's simply too little too late. >> nada bashir with the story from istanbul, thank you so much. let's bring in steven allen, he's a disaster response team leader currently working with crews in turkey. steven, thank you for your time. let's start with nada left off. the ability to get the resources, get the aid to people until areas that need it, both turkey and syria. talk to me about the challenges of getting what's been promised to where it's needed? >> yeah, look, it's a great question. it's a really important thing to
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highlight. so, i'm glad it's coming up, at usaid, we are working to get things for the people of turkey and people of syria really where they need to go. we've been involved in the search and rescue effort. we've brought two teams out from the united states to work on usaid who are highly trained teams from fairfax, virginia, from los angeles county. working alongside and with their turkish counterparts to drsave many lives as possible. you saw that footage. it really does give them hope when they see there are still people being pulled alive from the rubble. but it's amazing, this far into the tragedy, that it is still happening. >> and -- >> you know, the next phase of what we are doing is providing additional assistance to the people of turkey and syria.
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we're working with the government to determine where the needs are. we have pledged $85 million for usaid from turkia and syria. and we're working to get as much assistance as we speak. in syria, we've been working in syria as usaid for the past ten years. we have a very robust network of partners. many of whom were able to pivot the resources they had to immediately respond to earthquake assistance. but we recognize it's not enough. we've worked with our u.n. counterparts and other partners to make sure we are sending assistance in. but this is an area that has been fraught with access challenges for years. it's only compounded by the tragedy of the earthquake. >> and that syria, and sadly, the war can help explain some of the difficulties in getting the goods in. but you have in turkey, a severe shortage of tents, housing,
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medical supplies. as an organization like yours that is used to rescuing and conducting these operations around the world, what do you think is the blame for the delay in getting some of these supplies in now? >> you know, i have to tell you, being on the ground here in turkia, i've been in a town that was really hard hit by the earthquake. that's where we have our rescue crews. it's really hard to explain the extent of the destruction. and just the scale of the tragedy that we're dealing with here. i think it's important to note that turkia in particular has a very robust national response infrastructure for crises like these. but the level of crisis that we're facing here is higher than anything that could realistically plan for on their national level, which is why they've asked for international help. and that's why we're here to
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support them. we do have stocks and material that we are transporting to turkia. we have shelter supplies. hygiene kits, things like that, coming from our warehouse in the region. and we are working with others to bring in more supplies now to augment what the people of turkia and the government have already been able to provide. >> stephen allen with usaid, thank you so much for your time. and thank you for what you're doing there. for more information on how you can help the victims of the earthquake go to cnn.com/impact. the superintendent of a new jersey school district resigns in the wake of a 14-year-old taking her own life after she was attacked by four other teens. we'll have the tragic details straight ahead. tle number you'll never forget. ♪ customizeze and save. ♪ only pay for whahat you need. ♪ liberty. libertrty. liberty. liberty. ♪ old school hard work meets bold, new thinking,
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there's some alarming new information on the mental health of american children. this is according to a new cdc survey. teenagers, especially girls, are experiencing more violence, suicidal thoughts and mental health challenges since the onset of the pandemic. >> more than 40% of high school students said that feelings of sadness or hopelessness prevented them from engaging in their regular activities for at least two weeks of the year. 57% of girls felt persistently sad or hopeless in 2021. and 52% of lgbtq plus students have also recently experienced poor mental health. 22% attempted suicide.
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>> one teen suicide happened in new jersey. a 14-year-old girl took her own life after a video shows her being beaten by four other teens. >> those teens are now facing charges and the school's superintendent has resigned. cnn's brynn gingras joins us now. what more can you tell us? >> this is just so scary. when you see the video -- what happened, we don't want to show you the whole video, to be tickly honest. but i'm going to describe to you what you actually see in it. 14-year-old adriana kuch, she's walking out of her high school with her boyfriend when four people throw some liquid at her. and take her to the ground and start beating her before school personnel actually intervene. now, her father claims that the school didn't do anything about it. all they did, they sent her to the school nurse. they didn't alert authorities and we do know that the four students were suspended.
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but he said he's the one who took this daughter to the police department, filed the police report. and then that video circulated and then his daughter took her own life the next day. she was found dead the next day. i want you to hear more from her father. >> they think it's fun to attack people and make videos and post them. she blacks out. and they don't call an ambulance, they take her to the nurse's office. adriana was the most happy, beautiful young lady in the world. >> now, the school says they did alert authorities. those four teenagers, they have been criminally charged. one of them with aggravated assault. and they said that the superintendent has resigned amid controversial comments he also made in the aftermath of all of this. this fallout is continuing. there's been protests at the school, guys. people have said, not just this incident, but saying there's really a cultural -- it's happened in the past. and the school down do anything
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about. >> what do we know about what's happened at this school before? >> we know one mom has actually sued the school and said her daughter was similar, beaten, she actually provided a video to us. and the school, talking about the allegations we've just seen and they have said they're looking back not only at recent incidents but past incidents. and they're actually working with the department of education to reform any policies with anti-bullying. there's so many parents coming forward saying something needs to change because this is what could happen. >> especially in light of social media. >> absolutely. >> brynn gingras, thank you. there is help, you can call the suicide prevention line at 988. expect with counselors anytime, day or night. it's free and confidential. 988. turning to overseas, incredible scenes out of
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a judge is ordering portions of a georgia special grand jury report into 2020 election interference to be released on thursday. state prosecutors have investigated whether donald trump or any of his associates broke the law. >> portions to be released will not include specific charging recommendation. fulton county's district attorney suggested last month, the special grand jury had recommended multiple indictments. and said her decision on whether to bring charges is imminent. let's go to jerusalem where tens of thousands israelis
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flooded the streets to protest against prime minister's benjamin netanyahu controversial plan to overhaul the judicial system. >> the proposal would allow lawmakers to overturn supreme court decisions but many fear it will weaken the highest court and erode checks and balances. cnn's hadas gold is in jerusalem. ahead das, i know netanyahu is saying people are basically reacting to this but you're seeing tens of thousands turning out in protest. >> reporter: yeah, benjamin netanyahu has said that the reforms are a long time coming that the supreme court has become too elitist and that this is something that the voters want because they voted him and his allies into election. we've seen in the regular address in tel aviv, which is typically seen as the left leaning.
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but the reason the protesters have come here, skipped school and work to jerusalem to protest in front of the israeli parliament. because it was today that these reforms were getting one of their first sort of legislative tests. it was passings through committee hearing. and they told me, they wanted their voices to be echoing through the halls of parliament. we actually heard they could hear them. now, we don't have exact numbers, i was down there, definitely tens of thousands. i've seen equistimates ranging m 60,000 to 80,000 people. they worry this is just a way for benjamin netanyahu to get out of his ongoing corruption trial. i should say this is something is that he flatly denies. and even worried that this is sort of beginning of the end of the israeli democracy. i know we're showing images from within the israeli parliament. this is actually the committee
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meeting. and a knock-out heated meeting. the coalition lawmakers were chanting, one of them jumped over the table yelling shame and disgrace at the lawmakers trying to push this through. they were actually forcefully removed by security. so far, this legislation is passing through. the israeli president, though, last night, gave a rare televised address warning that the israeli society is on a potentially violent collision course. he was calling for all parties to come together, to come to a consensus agreement on reform. saying both sides have a right to their points. even joe biden weighing in, in a statement in "the new york times." it's very rare for a u.s. president to get involved in israeli politics. he wayded in saying one of the best parts of israeli and american democracy is the judiciary. and he was also calling for content. and we heard from the justice minister saying they are willing to speak with the opposition
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-- austin is in brussels. i think we've got it up. we lost that. here is what we're going to do. we're going to try to get that recording. i watched a bit of it, and play it back for you and get the news from the defense secretary. he is there in brussels. we'll get that for you as soon as we can. let's go to what we learned from the house today just a short time ago about the president's decision to shoot down three identified -- unidentified flying objects over the weekend, action america's military has never taken before until this past friday. national security official john kirby said after the u.s. recently discovered a spy balloon from china, norad, the command that defended u.s. airspace started monitoring the skies more closely. >> kirby said the u.s. is seeing more of these objects because
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we're looking for more. >> their altitude z were considerably lower than the chinese high-altitude balloon and did pose a threat to civilian commercial air traffic. while we have no specific reason to suspect they were conducting surveillance of any kind, we couldn't rule that out. >> the chinese balloon flew at 60,000 feet while the three unidentified objects had the altitude of 40,000 feet or lower. just into the newsroom, sources say the objects brought down over alaska and canada friday and saturday both carried pay loads or receptacles. >> we'll start with cnn's phil mattingly at the white house. tell us more about what came out of that briefing, phil. >> there are still unanswered questions. we don't know what they were, what their actual construct was. u.s. officials have been clear they don't believe it had any