the architect of the capitol fired, and tonight he's got. president biden firing brett blanton, the architect of the capitol today. the architect's responsibilities in this day and age include overseeing the capitol management and operations. word came after house speaker kevin mccarthy demanded his ouster. an inspector general report accuses blanton of wasting taxpayer money. he infuriated many in congress by staying away from congress during the january 6th insurrection. he told lawmakers he couldn't drive there because so many people were already there, so he used the work vehicle as a command post. >> i am outraged that you would be in a comfortable place, sir, while the rest of us were thinking about dying that day and how we were going to come out alive that day. outrageous that you were not here. >> blanton, a trump appointee, is also accused of offering tours to so-called patriots in the weeks before the 2020

election. he denies doing anything unethical. thanks for joining us. i'll be back at 9:00. >> good evening. we beginning with change about everything we do not know about the three on swrex shot out of the skies over the u.s. and canada this weekend. there is a lot. it's not just us or just you or everybody doing google searches or phoning their members of congress who don't know. it's also the members of congress themselves, at least to a degree. >> what in the world is going on? >> senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and the full senate are expected to get a classified briefing on the subject tomorrow. until then he clearly has questions. >> what are we shooting down? where did they come from? whether they are hostile or not? is there coherent guidance about when to shoot them down? how did we get into a position where the greatest nation in the world doesn't know what is traversing our own air space?

>> to be fair, we are less in the dark tonight than just yesterday when norad's top general found himself not ruling out space aliens. >> have you ruled out aliens or extraterrestrials, and if so, why? because that is what everyone is asking us right now. >> thanks for the question, colleen. i'll let the intel community and the counterintelligence community figure that out. i haven't ruled out anything at this point. >> so he didn't yesterday. today the white house did. >> i know there have been questions and concerns about this, but there is no, again, no indication of aliens or extraterrestrial activity with these recent takedowns. >> okay, so no indication of that according to the white house. late today cnn obtained a pentagon memo sent to lawmakers today describing the object shot down saturday in canadian air space as what appeared to be "small metallic balloon with a

tethered payload below it." the object shot down sunday overmichigan's lake huron "slowly descended into the water after impact." what we still do not know is whether those two or a third from friday are in any way related to the larger chinese spy balloon shot down off the carolina coast or whether these other three are surveillance craft at all. we don't know how close a look fighter pilots got at them before opening fire. and if they did, we don't know what they told their superiors they saw and why we, you haven't been told that about these conversations. we also don't know exactly why these objects are apparently just now being spotted, with an emphasis on "apparently" because another thing we don't know is whether or not the defense department and intelligence community are as much in the dark as the public is. and if they do know a lot more than they're telling us or letting on, why aren't they telling us or letting us know? then there's the white house. multiple sources tell cnn even the president's allies worry

he's saying too little. that's something spokesman john kirby today tried to rebut. >> we have been i think as transparent as we can be. i won't speak for the president's personal speaking schedule, but he has been deeply engaged in every one of these decisions. >> we're at the pentagon with breaking news on all of. this so three unidentified objects shot down out of north american air space in three days. are we any closer to learning what they were or where they came from? >> in short, the answer is no. the pentagon, the white house, the national security council as you just heard there keep describing these as "objects" without anything beyond their relative size, which is much smaller than the chinese surveillance balloon shot down off the coast of north carolina, and their altitude, between 20,000 and 40,000 feet. and it's because of those altitudes that they were shot down because they're a threat to civilian aviation. in the shoot-down over lake

huron, a second missile was needed. three sources familiar with what happened there say the f-16 fired a first heat-seeking side winder missile, but it missed, forcing the fighter pilot to fire a second missile to take down that object that slowly descended over lake huron. general vanhuerk did not acknowledge the missed missile. it's not clear what happened, if it flew off or was misdirectedded. that goes into the questions that we have about these, namely, what are they, why are they so hard to target if it's anything beyond their size, and where do we go from here as the recovery efforts continue, anderson. >> there is new reporting on the efforts to recover the debris from the original chinese balloon shot down earlier this month. >> correct. a defense official tells us a significant portion of the wreckage has been recovered, a salvage vesle with a crane arrived off the coast of south carolina on friday and got to work. it has been more difficult on

some days to go into the water because of the conditions of the seas frankly, but on the days they could work, they have raised a significant portion of what's below, including some of the structure and crucially some of the electronics that the f.b.i. is working to investigate to figure out what sort of tech there was. in terms of the surface recovery effort, essentially what's floating on top of the water, that had wrapped up a couple days earlier. now it's a question of what else and what's left on the bottom of the ocean in about 50 feet of water. >> what more are you learning about the apparent adjustments made to the radar used by norad to detect objects that might be flying through north american air space. >> this has been an interesting process. after the chinese surveillance balloon was detected, norad essentially adjusted its radars to make them more sensitive. they were designed to pick up, for example, heavy russian bombers off the coast of the u.s. instead they were shifted to also be able to pick up slow-moving, smaller objects. and then, boom, boom, boom, we have these three incidents right in a row, friday, saturday, sunday. the question is: is there an

ongoing process of refining the radars? a defense official says that process is ongoing to try to make sure they can find anything that poses a threat to u.s. national security, but perhaps to avoid some of what's not a threat to national security that forces norad to scramble fighters. >> today the chinese foreign minister accused the u.s. of "illegally flying multiple balloons into chinese air space in the past year." the u.s. government has denied that. >> absolutely. this got a forceful response from deputy secretary of state wendy slerman. wwendell when wendy sherman. take a listen. >> there are no u.s. government balloons over the people's republic of china, none, zero, period. >> to be clear, though, the u.s. has spy satellites just like the chinese. those are in international space where that's perfectly legal. the u.s. simply saying we don't have anything like a into balloon in chinese sovereign air space. >> appreciate it.

our next guest is retired canadian air force major general scott clancy, the former director of operations at norad. also john miller is here. john miller, let's start with you. does this make sense that we don't have... we really don't have many answers at all at this stage. >> it does, because we're getting a lot of answers on the chinese balloon that began all of this controversy in early february. these others don't match. don't know what they are. don't know if they are corporate, weather related or other spy vehicles from maybe other countries. it's really the challenge of first you shoot them down, then they break into pieces or fall into the water. then you have to put that puzzle back together. i would not be surprised, nor would anybody in the u.s. intelligence community, to find out that these are multiple surveillance platforms that were literally flying over or under the radar for some time from

multiple countries. >> general clancy, we learned the first missile shot at the object sunday over lake huron missed. does it make sense there are still so many unknowns about the three objects. is it plausible the u.s. government doesn't know who is behind them or at least what kind of vehicles these were or objects these were? >> yep, that makes total sense to me, anderson. i think that norad does its best to detect these types of objects, and all of the activities that surround our periphery and on the inside. however, in my experience as the director of operations, there is going to be gaps in that intelligence and our ability to respond to them. what you're seeing here is the ability of norad to close one of those gaps. >> major, wouldn't a pilot in most cases, if a pilot shot it down, would they have had a visual of it? would they have been able to photograph it? you would think at this point it's been a day or two, that

photo might be published. >> yeah, so i think there probably were. i don't know that for sure. here's what i would extrapolate. the minister of national defense of canada in her briefing on sunday stated categorically that she was waiting until daylight to take action because they wanted a visual identification. that to me meant very clearly that they were going to be taking pictures of it from the aircraft that engaged that was an f-22 raptor out of the alaskan norad region, which has the ability to do these things, as well. so i think there is more information there, but i also think it's prudent for the security services to wait and see until they can confirm the type of attribution that would be required to go forward with it. >> john, that makes sense to you, that there was a pilot who saw something, took a photograph? there is information that the government has that they are in the process of trying to collect more information about. it's not as if they are as blind

as we are? >> the before picture, as the colonel just said, is going -- the general just said is going to be essential. you want to know what did it look like before it shot you down. it also helps you to put it together. but you have challenges there because you have f-22s flying at speed even their version of slow is pretty fast to get a picture of something that is moving way slower. >> general clancy, norad command readjusted its filters to better spot slow-moving targets operating above a certain altitude or at a certain altitude. can you talk about that? is that why... would that account for why suddenly there are three objects all in a row? >> that would account for some of them, anderson, but i think what we're seeing is a confluence of two things. one, even during my time, a couple of years ago as the director of operations, we were working hard because we already knew that our aging radar systems had some significant

deficiencies. one of the ways in which you do filter information is you want to weed out that which you are not really worried about as a threat. slow-moving targets end up being on the bottom end of that. but this wouldn't in my estimation explain all of these targets all at once. i think the other thing that you're seeing, and this is speculation perhaps on my behalf, but it's based upon my experience, i think you're seeing a consorted, coordinated intelligence gathering operation by one or some of our adversaries. >> do you think these objects are then... do you think they're from the same adversary theoretically or possibly from the same adversary? >> i mean, everything is possible. again, i would go back the general's comments, my former boss, it would be prudent to wait. the reason for this is the diplomatic impacts this could have. i say diplomatic. but they could be military,

strategic, and economic. they are multifaceted and complex. i think you would want to be sure to do deliberate action as a nation state based upon information that you have and acting prematurely would not be prudent. >> general clancy, john miller, appreciate it. thank you. coming up, the latest moves by florida governor ronnie crosby rron desantisto position himsela presidential run. and later, a report from the quake zone where the death toll now tops 36,000 people. "anderson cooper 360" brought to you by: ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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great sunshine state of florida. >> taking his record from florida's capital to the national stage. as one of the country's youngest governors with one of the loudest voices on conservative policies. it's a driving force in the latest cap chertoff culture wars, already shaping the 2024 campaign. >> when other states consign their people's freedom to the dustbin, florida stood strongly as freedom's linchpin. >> the governor has introduced himself as a leading culture warrior with a growing list of what he calls anti-woke laws and proposals. >> this bill takes three main steps. >> like the parental rights in education act, which critics have dubbed the "don't say gay" bill that bans instruction of sexual orientation and gender identity in kindergarten through third grade. under his watch, transgender children in florida can no longer access certain treatments, and the eliminated

state funding for lgbtq mental health programs. he's also called for bans on mandates for covid-19 vaccines and mask, used state funds to expand a controversial migrant relocation program, and is locked in a battle over an advanced african american studies course that he says goes against state law for how race can be taught in florida classrooms. >> why don't we just do and teach the things that matter. why is it always someone has to try to jam their agenda down our throats? >> he spends his time signing laws passed by the g.o.p. controlled florida legislature, rather than sounding off on social media, like his one-time supporter and now rival, former president donald trump, who now mocks desantis with a nickname. >> ron desanctimonious. >> the governor is releasing a new book, "the courage to be free," at the end of february, and setting out on tour with stops in texas, california, alabama, and beyond. on the floor of the florida senate, democratic senator jason

pizzo has blasted desantis and towed us today the governor has cast his entire agenda as the backbone of a presidential bid. >> ai it's a playbook that i thk is squarely set toward a national audience because it's not curing any problems here. >> desantis is build national team, cnn has learned, with plans for an announcement in late may or early june. after the florida legislature enacts even more of his agenda that could serve as a roadmap for his political future. >> we will fight the woke in the businesses. we will fight the woke in government agencies. we will fight the woke in our schools. we will never ever surrender to the woke agenda. >> and you can just feel the republican field start to take shape, anderson, really week by week. others are exploring the race, but right here in tallahassee, that's where governor desantis is building this record brick by brick that's designed to appeal

to those primary voters in south carolina, in iowa, in new hampshire, those key early voting states. now, of course there is so much intrigue here in florida about the former president and the current governor, both of them meeting with their big donors next week in palm beach, and nearly simultaneous meetings, but we should point out this is not a two-man race. nikki haley is getting into the race this week. tim scott, the south carolina republican senator, soon to follow, and many more some the question here is: is the record that governor desantis is building going to help him in the primary? it surely will, but what about in the general election? is he moving too far to the right? those questions, of course, will have answers much, much later. >> appreciate it. now michael bender, he and maggie haberman shared the byline on a great piece out under the headline "desantis' challenge: when to challenge trump." he has so far pursued a policy of conflict avoidance when it comes to the former president.

talk about the logic behind that strategy at this point. he's clearly looked at what happened to republican candidates in 2016 during the primary. >> yeah, that's right. i mean, this is trump's party. no matter how you slice it, it has been for five or six years now. i mean, the best way to explain the problem that ron desantis has in front of him is, as i want to tell you about talking to some of the trump rally-goers at the end of 2022, this is right before the midterms, when everyone thought a red wave was coming, i was walking around doing some reporting at trump rallies, talking the rally-goers about 2024, asking them if trump would be the best republican to win the white house back in 2024, and somewhat surprisingly, i had very little trouble finding rally-goers, trump rally-goers who told me, no, trump is not the best republican to win back the white house. these people, you know, these trump loyalists see what's been happening for several election cycles, how divisive trump is,

how many people he turns off in a general election, and they know that there could be another better choice to beat biden or whoever the democratic nominee might be. but there is a huge but here, they are so loyal to donald trump, even knowing that, they say they will vote for him if he runs. and he has announced his campaign. that's because they say how he's fought for them, how vigorously he's fought for them, that they don't want the media to stomp on his gave, these kinds of things. republicans generally are very, very pragmatic voters. they want the back someone who is going to win in november, and this kind of loyalty presents a very big problem for people like ron desantis. how do you attack someone who draws so much of that loyalty from republican voters without it bouncing back right on you? >> as you point out in the article, the former president recently made an ugly insinuation on social media about his time as a teacher.

when asked about it, governor desantis says he's focused on work, not attacking other republicans. how long is that going to be his strategy? plenty of people have tried to avoid the slings and arrows coming from donald trump. that doesn't necessarily work either. >> that's right. i mean, i think what desantis wants to do here is hold off for at least a couple more months. the legislative session in florida will help where he'll have plenty of issues that he can essentially campaign on in florida and turn on national issues that. runs from march until about may. so it doesn't seem like desantis is going to announce a presidential campaign before then. what he wants to do is focus on that legislative session and keep talking about those issues. the question, though, well, you raised the question, what he's done so far, though, is pretty

remarkable. with this strategy, he's effectively made it a two-man race. i know jeff mentioned haley, tim scott, some other folks who could announce very shortly, but this strategy of taking the high road from desantis has remarkably made this the story of the republican primary so far is a two-man race between desantis and trump. >> we'll see how long that lasts. michael bender, appreciate it. fascinating article. just ahead, a seven-year-old girl held from the rubble in turkey after this huge earthquake last week. we go live to turkey and the search for survivors.

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>> turbish officials shared a video today after rescuers pulled a seven-year-old girl from the rubble near the epicenter of that massive earthquake last week near the syrian border. our affiliate in turkey says she is seven and in the second grade. rescuers put an oxygen mask on her, as you can see. her first request was for strawberry milk and a turkish pastry. we do not know more about her condition. we don't know the status of her parents or her family, only that according to turkish officials, today more than 1,300 children are separated from their parents after the earthquake. the death toll is now at least 36,217 people in turkey and syria, and a top official now believes the rescue phase is "coming to a close." cnn is in turkey. what is the latest you've been seeing and hearing? >> you know, you hear these

stories of children and people being rescued eight days on, and they are incredible. but as you said, as the hours go on, it really has become more of a recovery. we could smell the smell of death outside some of these collapsed buildings. we're in adiyaman. we were in hatai where it was like block after block after block of absolute destruction. it is hard to get your head around how bad things are from an earthquake that hit this region, not one but two. it's the worst thing that this country has seen disaster-wise in about 100 years. this 38-year-old woman desperately pleads with volunteer rescuers to search for her husband bedir. he's buried, she says, in their

corner apartment, which is somewhere under this rubble. they try to console her, but this mother of twins wants action, not words. >> translator: there is nobody out there. it's been six days. i'm waiting here with my twins standing in the cold. >> she says she's been asking anyone who will listen to dig her husband out, but for six days she says officials kept telling her they needed per peace-kepermission from the govt to start on her building. soldiers told us, if you attack us, we have the authority to shoot us. "if you have the authority to shoot, why don't you have the authority, she says" to pull him out. i want my husband back even if he isn't alive." she may have accepted his death but can't go on without seeing

her husband's body removed from this hellscape. "my life, my blood, my everything, my best friend in life, he left me with my twins here alone." while she waits for the realities of her husband's death, here in this area where you see enormous piles of rubble, these are different buildings, but you can't really distinguish them because there's just so much destruction, there have been signs of life. a child was found here alive after a week in the rubble. nurses comfort the girl who they think is three or four years old. she's dehydrated and in shock but alive. this is the moment she was rescued. her exhausted little body pulled from under the seemingly endless mountains of rubble in hatai.

she was rushed to the makeshift hospital set up in the parking lot of the actual hospital that was evacuated after the earthquake. when she first arrived, as a mother, i felt that she was like my own daughter, this nurse says. she's cracking up the staff. she's talking. when he walked in, the toddler had managed to make the nurses laugh, relieved she could talk about it. what is it that she said that made you all laugh. she made all the nurses laugh. "the word that made all the nurses laugh is mama, and i'm hungry. i want to eat something." >> what did that do to your heart when she said "mama"? >> i felt a great pulse in my heart, she says. no one knew her name. when they asked, she said "dada." this toddler does not speak turkish. she speaks arabic. rescuers later toll us she's

syrian. the chances of survival in this sea of dust and destruction dims by the hour. while this wife and mother of twins awaits proof of the death of her husband, further into town, this toddler has given new life to hope of finding more survivors. "it's an important example that such a miracle crowd happen even after a week has passed," the turkish minister of health told us. this little miracle takes flight to a fully functioning hospital, away from the place she used to call home. >> such an incredible rescue. has there been any update on the woman searching for her husband or waiting for her husband to be taken out? >> yeah, there has, anderson. her husband has been found, but he has been found, his body. he is dead, but she is while in great grief, she is just happy

that she's at least able to see him one last time and give him a proper burial. these scenes are happening all over turkey. that was in hatai. we're in adiyaman where you see behind me a huge amount of rubble. this is a couple of different buildings. i'll give you a look at the seabrook. it's about 4:35 a.m. here, and you can see that the rescue crews that are here have been going all night long, and this is partly because they know that there are at least seven people that are trapped inside of this building. there were signs of life at the very beginning, but they have not heard any signs of life in the last couple of days or so, and we did end up meeting the family of some of those who are trapped. they say five of those seven people are their family members. that's the kind of heartbreak you were seeing all across turkey. families are keeping vigil outside of these destruction

zones just waiting to say good-bye one last time to their loved ones, because a lot of people have lost hope that they will see their loved ones alive again, anderson. >> appreciate you being. there thank you. i am joined now by someone from the u.s. who is in turkey assist with rescue and recovery missions. john, i appreciate you being with us. i know you have been doing this for a while. you have seen and heard a lot of things. what's it been like for you and your team in turkey the last couple days? >> hi, anderson. thanks for having us on. it's been a pretty devastating area here in adiyaman where your reporter also is. there are numerous, widespread apartment buildings that have come down, sometimes on top of each other. that complicates the rescue scene. as you can see on that video in front of you, we're trying to

get into these void spaces that are created. sometimes it's very difficult to get to those. we're certainly in that phase now where a lot of the easier rescues that are all on the tops of the rubble piles have been made. so we're trying to get to those that are deeply in tune within the structure in those void spaces while we still can. >> what are the biggest risks that you're dealing with? because obviously any time you're... you've got layers of -- you've got different floors of a building that have collapsed on top of one another. there could be void spaces. there could be people inside there, but moving anything, you risk, you know, other debris falling. so what are the biggest impediments? >> safety is a very big concern of ours. with our heavy rigging team that we bring with us along with our structural engineers and our rescue customers, they will help move the large concrete slabs off of the pile in as safe as possible of a manner knowing they are trained with knowing

how those slabs, once we remove them, how the rest of the building will respond. it's never a 100% sure thing, but we take safety very, very seriously, because we don't want to become part of the issue and get hurt ourselves. >> the mission inevitably moves from rescue to recovery. how does that change your approach or does it? >> >> it doesn't really. what we hear, vaz as long as the turkish people require our assistance, we'll be here helping them out. when they say that they have moved to a recovery operation and they no longer need the urban search and rescue capability that u.s. aid has provided, we'll work to mobilize and come back home. >> john morrison, i appreciate all the work you and everybody from your team does. thank you very much for talking with us tonight. >> thank you. >> coming up, never-before-seen body camera footage from sheriff's deputies that responded to the 911 call the

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>> tonight we have never-before-seen body camera footage from sheriff's deputies who responded to alex murdaugh's 911 call the night his wife and youngest son were shot to death. he's on trial for the double

murder and denies killing them. the video was recently played for jurors. randy cabe has the key moments from the video. first, we want you to know the redactions and blurring of the video came that way from the court itself. >> the scene is secure. both with gunshot wounds to the head. >> it's just before 10:30 p.m. on june 7, 2021, the night maggie and paul murdaugh were murdered. this is body cam footage from colleton county sheriff's office daniel greene who was first on the scene. moments af after arriving, he ss alex murdaugh. >> i want to let you know because of the scene i did go get a gun. >> it's in your vehicles? do you have any guns on you at all? >> no, sir. it's leaning up against the car. >> i don't have anything. >> yes, sir, i see that. >> murdaugh appears to be upset, but first responders have testified in court they inner saw any tears. moments after sergeant greene

arrives, murdaugh offers up his own reasoning as to why someone would kill his family. >> this is a long story. my son was in a boat wreck months back. he's been getting threats. most of it has been benign stuff we didn't take serious. >> okay. >> you know, he's been getting like punched. i know that's what it is. >> a key moment in the body cam footage comes when sergeant greene asks murdaugh when he last saw his family. listen closely to his answer. >> when was the last time you were here with them or talked to them or anything like that? >> um... it was earlier tonight. i don't know the exact time, but i left. i was probably gone an hour and a half at my mom's. i saw them about 45 minutes before that. >> alex told investigators he was not home at the time of the murders and hadn't seen his family in hours, but remember,

at trial, the state revealed evidence of a video recording extracted from paul murdaugh's phone. it was taken just minutes before he and his mom were killed, recorded at 8:44 p.m. prosecutors and more than a handful of witnesses say that's alex murdaugh's voice on the recording. that puts him at the murder scene around the time of the murders. on the body cam video, we also see for the first time this bizarre exchange between alex and deputy beaufort mcdowell, who arrives on the scene. in the middle of talking to sergeant greene about his wife, he pauses to greet the deputy. >> maggie murdaugh, margaret murdaugh. how you doing? >> i'm okay. >> reporter: alex also asks the deputies several times if his family is dead. >> did you check?

>> did i check what? >> did you check them? >> we got medical guys. that's what they're going to do. >> they are dead, aren't they? >> yes, sir, that's what it looks like. >> on some of the body cam video, alex murdaugh is seen pacing around the property. he's making phone calls, including one to one of his brothers. >> the police are here now. the police are here now. >> in another clip he asks the deputies to get his surviving son buster on the phone. >> can you get a police officer with my oldest son in columbia. i haven't told him yet. >> randi joins us now from south carolina. the pathologist who did the autopsies also testified today. what did the court hear? >> well, anderson, she told the court that paul murdaugh was shot twice, first in the chest, but then in the shoulder and the head. that was the fatal wound. she also said there was no sign

of a struggle with him, no defensive wounds and that he was standing and facing the shooter as he was kid. if it was indeed his father as the prosecution allege, he was looking ri right at him. maggie murdaugh was shot five times. the fatal shots were delivered while she was on the ground including one to the back of the head and no sign of defensive wounds or any sign of a struggle with her. >> appreciate it. thank you. coming up, back to our top story and the mystery in the skies. harry anton joins us to explain how many people believe we are not alone in the universe and this still-unexplained video taken n by navy pilots. this is how tosin lost 33 lbs on noom weight. i'm tosin. noom gave her a psychological approach to weight loss. noom has taught me how you thinabout food has such a huge impact

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so, americans' cure 'tis about ufos was already piqued when the u.s. intelligence community released that long-awaited report on what it

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compared to a week ago. the last two days, with the exception of one day a few years ago back in 200 were the most searched days for ufos since 2004 so a lot of people very interested. >> april 28th, 2020 was what, when that report was released. >> yeah, so essentially back then we had the pentagon released a video in which they showed some navy fighter pilots, in fact, i think we have some of that video. >> i interviewed one of them. >> yeah. >> what's going on? >> there's a whole fleet of them. >> my gosh. >> they're all against the wind, the wind 120 knots out of the west. >> and then there was the one that just like traveled in strange like -- >> what's so interesting we get this idea of uf osse like flying

sauers out of "mars attacks" but that wasn't what that was. what the heck is this? it was kind of cool to see and they weren't really -- >> the one moving strange and fast. what's the consensus? do people think extraterrestrial life exists? >> the pew research center asked when the military reports on these ufos, do you believe they're actually extraterrestrial life going on outside. we're a 50/50 nation on this. essentially 51% of americans said definitely yes or probably yes. it is a sign of extraterrestrial life, 47% said probably no. definitely not and what's interesting to me about that question is that essentially on pretty much everything we look at there's a partisan divide. no real partisan divide on this. no real age divide. no real educational divide. >> how many reported seeing a ufo? >> so, you know -- >> or say they have? a majority might believe it but

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i knew we ran that double move route that he wasn't where he usually was at. when you see him on film he tugged him and forced him out of the direction of where he wanted to throw the ball. at the end of the day you got to play football and the refs make their calls the best they can and it went our way on that call. a couple of other ways might have come. you come to the parade too. i know paul is trying to get out there. >> it's okay. i'll let paul represent me. it's okay. i appreciate it. enjoy disneyland. >> a reference to kansas city superfan and actor paul ruud. congratulations to patrick mahomes and the chiefs, the news concerns, "erin burnett outfront" starts now. outfront next. inside the white house on how the president is responding behind closed doors to the unidentified objects flying over the u.s. will he share the details with the american public? plus, governor ron desantis

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