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victim in room 114. they do have the door barricaded. there's someone in room 135 shot as well. room 114 and room 135 we have -- >> it's always the 911 calls we get to hear. >> it's chilling. >> here we go again. good morning, everyone. hate to start off with such terrible news. poppy is on assignment right now. america waking up to yet another mass shooting. michigan state university is now the scene of the nation's latest massacre, at least three people killed. we're going to take you live to the scene with new details and what we're learning about the shooter. also, the white house and the national security counsel spokesperson, john kirby, making it clear we are not under invasion by aliens. he will join us live in a few moments as we have real questions about what we are seeing. plus, new reporting this morning, what we now know about one of the mysterious flying objects that was shot down by u.s. fighter jets. plus, we're going to take you to the gun range where
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ukrainian forces are learning to use advanced german tanks. could they help turn the tide of war? our nick robertson live in warsaw. we'll start with the mass shooting that happened overnight at michigan state university. yet another american community, this time a college campus, that has been shattered. police say that the gunman opened fire at two different buildings on campus. killing three people, critically wounding five others who are now in the hospital. the person attacked the school's arts and sciences building before then moving on to where students gather at the student union. investigators say the 43-year-old gunman you can see here on security camera left the campus after his rampage and ultimately killed himself. >> he's not a student, faculty, staff. and we have no idea why he came to campus to do this tonight. that is part of our on going investigation. >> as questions remain about the motive, this is cell phone video that one person took of
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terrified students running for their lives, holding their hands up in the air as heavily armed officers rushed on to the scene. you can see a michigan state trooper with a high-powered rifle that led a group of students to safety. one of the witnesses there on the ground spoke to abc news and described the shooter as storming his classroom before opening fire. >> the shooter came in our room and shot three to four times and i'm pretty sure he hit two students in our classroom. >> adrienne broaddus is covering this story, live for us at the scene in east lansing. you actually went to msu. you know this campus very well. how far apart are these two buildings where the shooter went and how far apart where they took place? >> reporter: berkey hall is to the right of me, the union is left of me. you can easily walk from berkey
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hall to the union. investigators telling us at least two of the deceased were found at berkey hall. the other was at the msu union. the motive, still unclear this morning. >> this truly has been a nightmare that we are living tonight. >> reporter: chaos and carnage at michigan state university, after police say a 43-year-old shooter opened fire at two separate locations on campus. investigators say there was a confrontation and then the 43-year-old ended his own life. >> we were there locked in the rooms, and the guys were telling us to run out the back door as quick as we can and run for our lives. i sprinted out there as fast as i can into the woods. >> we all thought we were safe on the second floor in the calf tear yarks but obviously we weren't. we were told to evacuate. we all ran out. it was terrifying. it was pretty scary. >> oh my god. >> reporter: students captured on this cell phone video running for their lives. >> want to get something in front of the door? >> reporter: some students say they sheltered in place in the
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cafeteria, listening to police reports. once they realized the shots were getting closer, they started barricading themselves in the room. >> the s.w.a.t. and the cops came in and they all told us to get out of the cafeteria, so we all stormed down the stairs. >> reporter: about a mile and a half from the university, east lansing high school's district board meeting was interrupted. and the building also on lockdown. >> we've been advised by elpd to remain here and go into lockdown right now. >> reporter: police were on scene within minutes. >> officers in the building, following their active shooter protocol and going towards the threat. while officers were in berkey hall, the suspect moved over to the union. and when the incident took place there, officers quickly redeployed to the union. >> reporter: students and faculty were left sheltering for hours. many students were evacuated but say they left confused and
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shaken. >> i was looking for my friends. when everyone was running down the stairs, everyone got lost all over the place. people were crying and scared. just really bad experience. you don't take it seriously until it's happening to you. >> reporter: this shooting is the 67th mass shooting in the u.s. so far this year. >> our campus grieves. we will all grieve. and we will change over time. we cannot allow this to continue to happen again. >> reporter: parents watching this all unfold at home were also terrified. one thing, as a freshman, every freshman who goes through orientation learns how you greet members of your spartan family. if you see someone wearing a spartan hat, shirt or even a bracelet, when you see them, you say go green. their response is go white. as spartans grieve each other on this valentine's day, a day set aside for love, their hearts are hurting.
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>> yeah. one thing they don't tell you is how to deal with a mass shooting like this. thank you. new this morning, we're also hearing dispatched audio from the shooting at michigan state. take a listen to the emergency response at berkey hall. >> first floor in the cafeteria -- >> copy. first four -- >> north. >> multiple, multiple ambulances. >> medic, 91 and medic 93 on scene making way up to berkey front door. >> first floor is clear. >> people coming up the stairs of the union. saying there are still people down there trying to get out. i'm coming down. >> seven people. first floor. >> the basement has been cleared. the first floor has been cleared. we got one person out that was okay. another victim out of the kitchen. they're with medics.
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first floor is clear. >> couple personal connections here at cnn, including cnn national security analyst sean turner also a professor at michigan state university was on campus when the police alert went out last night. sean, thank you so much. adrienne graduated from there and is an alum. you are a professor there. you were on campus as this just happened, as i said. what happened? what did you hear and see? >> yeah, don. last night it was about 8:15. i went back to campus just down the road from where we are. i crossed over the road behind us, heading to my building. it was going back to work to get some paperwork when the alert went out at 8:18. i immediately thought, you know what, i don't want to be locked down here on campus. i want to go back and find out what's going on here. so i started to leave campus. and i can tell you that before i was off campus, there was an overwhelming response of law
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enforcement from all over this area, converging on campus to address this issue. so i knew at that point that we had something very serious happening on campus here at michigan state university. >> what's the campus like? is it pretty walkable? because we were looking at the graphic of just how far apart these two actual locations were. >> yeah. well, this is a massive campus here in east lansing, michigan. but the area where most of the students are, it's fairly walkable as we just said. you know, the student union is just here to my left. berkey hall just to my right. most of the classrooms and residential areas are in a central location here on campus. this campus is also -- this is not just a university that's in a community. east lansing and michigan state university really are one in the same in many ways. that's part of the reason i think that this campus, this university is going to come together to really help these
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students -- help everyone get through this. you know, this is just absolutely devastating. i've seen students this morning. i've talked to faculty members who are reaching out to their students to make sure they're all okay. now just begins a process of trying to heal and trying to understand why this happened here on campus. >> shawn turner, be safe. thank you to you and to adrienne broaddus. we appreciate it. we'll see you soon. next hour, we're going to be joined by the mayor of east lansing, michigan, mayor ron bacon coming up. we also have breaking news this morning. former south carolina governor nikki haley is now officially running for president. she is the first republican to challenge trump for that nomination. she obviously served as his ambassador to the united nations. she announced as much just in a video a few moments ago. >> you should know this about me, i don't put up with bullies. and when you kick back, it hurts them more if you're wearing heels. i'm nikki haley, and i'm running
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for president. >> haley posting that video as she expected to deliver remarks tomorrow at a church in charleston for the campaign launch event. this is notable given she obviously was trump's united nations ambassador and once said she would not run for president if he was running, but she recently deviated from that line. not only did she lead the united nations or serve as the ambassador to the united nations also the first woman governor to south carolina before that. so, you can see her trying to distinguish herself in that way in the campaign video, but it is pitting her against her former boss now that she is the first one to enter the freight. we expect more but she is the first one. >> that is expected to be her biggest hurdle. she has the credentials. u.n. ambassador, also she was a governor of south carolina as you mentioned. i remember interviewing her when she took the flags down. she got lots of praise from both republicans and democrats. there was some conservatives especially within the state that did not like it. she fought against it of indian decent, her parents as well.
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first indian-american member of the presidential cabinet. so she has that distinction, a very good resume, but i think her biggest hurdle will be how does she sort of square the circle between trump and maga and whether he -- what he comes out and says against her or for her. >> yeah. that will be something that faces other republicans who are expected to run, mike pence, mike pompeo. we'll see. she is not the only person from south carolina running. we expect senator tim scott to announce as much as well. very busy and very crowded. also this morning, we are still tracking what is happening out of washington. images of the chinese spy balloon that was shot down off the coast of south carolina, you can see here this is what the pentagon released. these photos. this is the navy moving the wreckage they recovered from the destroyed balloon that was in the ocean. the biden administration says that military intelligence will try to examine it to learn more about their spy balloon program. china trying to learn with this? that comes as the white house is also trying to tamp down
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speculation about the mysterious flying objects that u.s. fighter jets seem to be taking down almost everyday now. >> i know there have been questions and concerns about this, but there is no, again, no indication of aliens or extraterrestrial activity with these recent takedowns. >> i don't think the american people need to worry about aliens with respect to these craft. period. i don't think there's any more that needs to be said there. >> we have learned more about the object that was shot down over canada on saturday. that it was, quote, a small metallic balloon floated near sensitive sites belonging to the u.s., that is according to a pentagon memo that was obtained by cnn. our senior white house correspondent mj lee at the white house tracking this. mj that kind of got a few laughs in the briefing room yesterday, but there are still real questions about what we don't know about these objects? >> reporter: definitely. the administration does not have many answers, what did these objects look like? where did they come from?
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who owns them? do they definitely not have surveillance capabilities? all answers -- all questions without answers. and one thing that we just saw the white house being very clear about is that the u.s. military did not shoot down ufos. we're told by officials that they have been pretty sensitive to the fact that this is sort of a mysterious situation and ripe for conspiracy theories and that a decision was made that even without a lot of concrete information about these recently downed objects, that the white house felt it was important to at least rule out the fact that there was no extraterrestrial activity. that these were not ufos, that the president ordered shot down. as one official told us, everyone wants answers that no one answer at the moment, but again, the white house felt that it was important to at least rule out that these were not ufos. i will also tell you even though we've not heard directly from the president yet, addressing this issue, we are just seeing a flurry of activity with senior administration officials trying
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to brief lawmakers on capitol hill. there's going to be a classified briefing for senators today. and then an unclassified briefing call for house members. the question, though, right now is how much information and new information can they potentially share because, again, they've been pretty clear that they just don't know much right now. >> mj lee, we'll stay tuned to see what questions they do answer today. thank you. there's a lot left to learn about all the mystery objects that we have been discussing. cnn's tom foreman at the magic wall to help us visualize what we do know. tom, good morning to you. so start us off, if you will, on the smaller side. let's talk about the objects shot down on sunday. >> yeah. this one was on the smaller side. get a scale here, statue of liberty, empire state building, much higher than any of that in that it was about 20,000 feet. it was described as being an octagonal shape here. and it was -- had some kind of strings hanging down the edges. that's one of them shot, apparently descended slowly into
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lake huron. about 20,000 feet, don. >> let's move to higher ground or i should say higher in the air. what about the ones on friday and saturday? >> different ball game there. in this case we're going to move much higher than this. past mount everest where you typically find commercial planes flying. that's when your getting to 35,000 feet, in that general area. these were shot down because specifically they posed a threat to the idea of commercial airlines coming through the area. what do we know about these? a little bit more. we know this one over alaskan waters is about the size of a car, according to officials. this one was a metallic sort of balloon with some kind of payload below it. this was shot down over the yukon. we get a little more scale, little more sense they're higher, 35,000 feet. >> so the pentagon has said that they don't know who is behind the last three items, but the last item they're blaming on
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china. so tell us how it's different. >> completely different ball game when you talk about that first one that was shot down. you're going to go much higher than these items that we were talking about, up to where this f22 came in and shot this down. when they went after this, it was hovering around 60,000 feet up there off the south carolina coast. totally different ball game here. in this case, when we get all the way up to that item, we're talking about one that was believed to be at about 60,000 feet when it was shot down. this part down here was the payload. believed to be about 2,000 pounds. they're trying to collect all of this. it's going to be a workout collecting it all simply because these pieces down here, they're way out there and very cold territory. but every piece they get is a little more information to figure out where they all came from and what they were doing. >> tom foreman helping us out this morning. thank you, tom. appreciate that. straight ahead on "cnn this morning," we'll be joined by senator republican who is set to receive a classified briefing
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one giant leap for mankind. ♪ germany has now confirmed that ukrainian troops are currently training on those advanced leopard 2 tanks at a polish military base. this just weeks after berlin and western allies agreed to provide those tanks to ukraine and others, delivery of them could come as early as next month. cnn's nic robertson went to warsaw to report on what the training looks like. >> reporter: after just a week of training, ukrainian tank crews show off their new skills on a polish gun range. the first time their leopard 2 training has been put on display. the crews pulled direct from ukraine's eastern battle front.
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>> translator: too soon to say what's best about the leopard 2, ukraine's tank trainer says. but the machine is good quality what is most important, my soldiers like it a lot. >> reporter: their training fast tracked, 12 hours a da, six days a week. compared to the polish standard, eight hours a day, five days a week. polish instructors say the ukrainians will be ready in a month. most of them have some tank skills already. the polish brigadier in charge says. they're so keen to learn, we have to hold them back. and peacetime is rare, if ever, the tank crews are racing through their training like this. it's a sign of how much they're needed at the front lines. they're being accelerated through their leopard 2 apprenticeship. poland's president who has been at the vanguard of pushing nato allies to give ukraine modern
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battle tanks and is sending 14 of poland's came to meet the ukrainian crews and see their progress. his visit providing big publicity for poland's commitment to ukraine. flavor of what u.s. president joe biden will hear when he visits next week. a pitch for a joint tank brigade. >> translator: i hope that soon the brigades will be ready for ukraine and also includes american abram's tanks so that ukraine can counter the russian offensive. >> reporter: the tanks and the training only part of readying this new force for war. >> translator: the biggest challenge now is spare parts for these tanks. we are setting this task to the german defense industry. >> reporter: for the ukrainian tank crews, patiently parked up
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and waiting through most of the polish president's visit, priority is getting back to the war, even if that means the training is sped up. >> translator: i think that the training time will be enough for us to get to grips with the technology, he says. we are lacking a lot of heavy armor like this. if we get it, it will be much better. >> reporter: on this training ground, perhaps more profound than tank skills honed, history in the making. the foundations of a fully-modernized nato-compatible ukrainian army being laid. but it's not going to be quick. even though it's being sped up, just the tank component alone, that new nato compatible modern army, the ukrainians say they want about 300 to 400 tanks. there are 21 tank crews getting their training that we saw here in poland.
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germany started its training on the same tank just yesterday. so you can see 400 tanks, 21 crews are going to take a month here. it's going to be a big build, perhaps to the end of the year before they can have the right number of tank crews ready. and then fighting in formation, that's a whole another skill to learn as well. >> yeah. it takes time and, of course, raises questions about the timeline of the country's now agreeing to give them. nic robertson, thank you. i'm so glad you're there. ahead, we're going to break down a new memo coming out of the pentagon about the object shot down over canada. the white house john kirby and senator mike rounds on the intelligence committee are both going to join us next. try bn with 20 grams of protein for muscle health versus 16 gramams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspired flflavor. learn more at boost.com/m/tv i've never been healththier. shingles doesn't care. but shingrix protects. proven over 90% effective,
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♪ so we're learning some new details about the objects that were shot down by u.s. fighter jets over the weekend. this is according to a pentagon memo obtained by cnn. the omts shot down over alaska was metallic and the size of a small car. the object shot down over canada was a small, metallic balloon that crossed near sensitive sights in the u.s. before it was
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shot down and the object shot down over lake huron on sunday slowly descended into the water after impact. now, the objects were flying at altitudes between 20 to 40,000 feet. military decided to shoot them down because at those altitudes they could pose a threat to civilian aircraft, which would be really, really serious. joining us now, white house national security counsel coordinator for strategic communication and that's john kirby. john kirby, thank you for joining us this morning. i appreciate it. >> you bet. happy to be here. >> since we last officially heard from you, any briefing or any update that we should know? >> nothing i can say operationally, don. we still have not located the debris from the three objects shot down over the weekend. although, there are intensive recovery operations under way to try to find, locate that. once it's been located to try to recover that. but nothing to report. now on the spy balloon that was shot down a week or so ago, divers were able to get into the water over the course of the weekend and were able to recover
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a significant amount of debris, including some of the structure and some of the electronics. all that has been shipped off now with our fbi partners. we're going to try to analyze that, see what we can learn. >> it almost seems like this is something novel and now the united states and i know it is not. should it take the u.s. military this long to recover these objects especially if the u.s. is the one that shot them down, john? >> you know, when you do something like this, don, you want to do it over areas where you're not going to hurt people on the ground which means it will be remote areas as best you can. then just getting to those remote areas can be difficult, don. particularly if you throw in not only the latitude at which these things are located, at least the first two but the weather conditions right now. it's february and up near the arctic, the weather conditions are not permissive for search and recovery operation. >> this is fascinating to folks just watching at home. everyone is wondering, what's going on? why so many. is this new. if you're looking for more, i'm paraphrasing here, you're likely
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to find them. is that what you believe? is that what -- is that what our intelligence folks believe? >> we think don, that this could explain why you've seen so many incidents in a short period of time just over the last few days. we adjusted the norad staff adjusted the parameters for the radar systems. the sensitivities to look for things that were low -- i'm sorry, slow, high, and small. small radar cross section in the wake of the chinese spy balloon. so when you're doing that, when you adjust your sensitivities on the radar, you're likely to see more of those kinds of contact. we think that's in part why there have been these most recent incidents. >> cnn also learned the first missile launched at the object over lake huron did not hit the target. do you know where that missile is? does it concern you if missiles are missing targets that over american people, over, you know, the united states?
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>> i can't confirm the reporting that a missile was fired and missed. i would add a couple of thoughts here. one again, these were very small radar cross section targets. and so, it's not inconceivable to me as a former military man to believe that one might have missed just because of the size of the target. and there are safety mechanisms in place that pilots use. i don't think the american people or the canadian people need to be worried about the possibility that one of those missed. >> but that is our reporting that it did not hit its target and this is happening over american air space. if the standard operating procedure going forward is to shoot these objects down to keep civilian aircraft safe in the sky, can you guarantee americans on the ground that americans on the ground will also stay safe as well, john? >> yes, i can, don. >> as simple as that, even though you said you don't know if it was -- where that missile is and you can't confirm, but that is your reporting? >> i can't confirm your
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reporting. there are safety protocols with all these kinds of engagements. the whole purpose of these missions were to keep americans safe. that's what was behind the president's decision from the very, very beginning. make sure we were keeping the skies safe for civilian air traffic. these three objects were at altitudes that could potentially pose a risk to commercial air traffic. and also, they pose a potential surveillance risk to sensitive sites on the ground. it's all about safety and security of american people. that always comes first with the president. that was behind these decisions. that won't change. >> job kirby, we appreciate you joining us from the white house this morning. thank you very much, sir. >> my pleasure. and now we go from the white house to capitol hill because in fau hours senators will get a classified briefing on the objects that have been shot down in recent days. among them is republican senator mike rounds of south dakota who serves on both the intelligence and armed services committees. good morning, senator. thank you for joining us on this. i want to get to your questions on that briefing in a moment, but first i would like to get your reaction to the breaking
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news, that nikki haley is entering the fold for the 2024 republican nomination for president. what do you think? >> former governors can do a great job as president. ronald reagan was a former governor. i think nikki is very, very capable as well. >> would you support nikki haley over former president trump? >> i would just simply say i think we'll have other people entering the race as well. i'm looking forward to tim scott taking a look at. i hope he will also announce. i think a number of individuals that the american public will be able to choose from and based upon that, i think we've got a real good opportunity of taking back the white house. i'm looking forward to that race as well. in the meantime, we're concerned about the senate races coming up and we look forward to winning back the united states senate as well. >> we'll get to those races, of course, as well with you. but first back to this briefing that you're going to be going to behind closed doors in just a few hours from now. we just heard from john kirby. are you satisfied with what you heard from the administration so
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far? >> you know, all of us want to get the information as quickly as we can. what i do appreciate that the admiral is doing is he's being very careful to provide information that he can back up. and so i appreciate that. i would love to get more information, more quickly. i would really like to find the information or at least the data that they've got on the items they already recovered. i know they're going through that. i think we'll find out more once we recover some more of the debris, so at this stage of the game, i think we all have a pretty good understanding of what it may be. but we don't know the details. and so, if they want to stick to the program of we've taken them out, we know where they're at, we're going to give you the details as soon as we get them, then i'm prepared to accept that because that's the best data we can get. in the meantime, look, we're still concerned about the fact that it took a while to actually be able to change the arrays on the radar. that suggests that we got some weaknesses there that we're going to go to work on. i think when the military says that they need to make improvements in re dar and they need some additional capabilities, that's something
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that we as congress can do something about. and it means improving and upgrading the radar systems we've got and allowing them for not only pick up the high traveling or the fast traveling items but the slow traveling items as well, even if they're small and, you know, maybe we missed them in the past. >> senator, you said you think you have a pretty good idea of what they may be. what is that? >> well, i think, look, bottom line is that we know the first one was a balloon and i think now they indicated the second was was also some sort of a balloon or a metallic-type of substance. that's what's been reported. i think that's consistent with what it appears to be. i'm not going to get into the details of what they've given us already, but i think once they get this debris, i think they'll be able to come back and share a little bit more about it. but what we know they've been traveling at really low speeds and that suggests that this is something that they may have been doing for a while and using it to collect data on us. >> the u.s. is shooting them down with fighter jets and with mice siels. we actually learned the first missile they launched the one near lake huron in michigan,
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that missile miss and they had to fire a second one that took down that object. do you have concerns about the u.s. using fighter jets and missiles to shoot down objects over u.s. air space? >> i think we should always have concerns any time we have to engage using our military equipment to take down items that are out there. i do think it's appropriate that right now with as much attention as being -- as is being provided, that we do take a strong approach to this and that when we find out about them that we do take them out. i also suspect that they have gone through great lengths to make sure that when they do make one of those attacks on one of these items that they take precautions to protect the american people as well. i believe that. and i also think that there are safeguards put into place so that if they do have a miss and -- look, these missiles are designed for taking out a little bit larger piece of equipment with a little bit more metal on it probably and little more heat signature and so forth.
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the fact that one had missed, i think that's something they hoped they would not do but most certainly something they knew was a possibility. >> okay. and senator, i want to ask you about something that you said here on cnn on sunday about social security to my colleague jake tapper. you said i kind of look at social security the department of defense and our defense spending. we're never not going to fund defense but at the same time we every single year look at how we can make it better. are you suggesting that social security should be funded on a year by year basis? >> not so much that we fund it on a year by year basis but that we try to make improvements on a year to year basis. and look, the reality is we have an on going funding source right now for social security. but when you put it on the back burner and don't look at it and don't try to make improvements in it and simply say, oh, we did it once. we don't have to look at it again. that's when things start to get out of hand. look, bottom line, republicans and democrats alike i think would agree we have about 11 years until social security --
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to the point they can't pay all the benefits that people have earned. that they have worked hard for and committed to. so i think part of our job is to manage that and to get in and to make sure that long-term people can always count on social security being there. and if you're not prepared to actually manage it, then i think you risk the possibility of not paying attention to it and things get out of hand. that's what we don't want. and i think we're wrong when we tell people we shouldn't talk about it. it's kind of like if you talk about it, someone will accuse you of trying to destroy it. that's not the case. we were sent here to try to make it better and make sure it stays there for a long period of time. >> what specifically do you mean by improvements? that is going to be something that people are going to be curious about. what exactly republicans would like to see done differently? >> i would share with you first of all, we know if we don't do anything we will see benefits right now could be decreased by 24% -- in about 11 years. and if we know that now, based
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on the actuarial determinations already been made, shouldn't we be talking about now what we're going to do to improve in that? and we think there are proposals out there that can protect the benefits from those individuals that are retired now and those coming up, but that we can also take a look at new funding capabilities, new ways of managing the process itself, social security itself, to where we might even be able to make it to last more than 75 years without making major changes again. and i just think that that's something that we should, as responsible people, be talking about. let's make sure that the american people can always count on it and that they're not being threatened and don't look down the line, gee, if they don't do something in a couple years i may see reduction in my ben fits. that's what we're trying to avoid. you can't do that if you're not prepared to stand side by side, republicans and democrats alike, and say let's see what we can do to fix the issues that are there, make it better and give
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stability to social security long term. >> senator mike rounds, three very important topic. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. ahead, we'll hear from congresswoman nancy maze. to talk about the administration's handling of the unidentified objects being shot out of the sky. and the new plans from nikki haley to run in 2024. we also have jeff zeleny and scott jennings standing by to discuss. that's a lot. up next, the troubling cdc survey on teen girls and suicide risk. we'll discuss that and the upcoming hearing aimed at keeping your kids safe online when brianna keilar joins us live. that's next. ♪
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faired much worse than boyce. grieving families visit capitol hill for a senate judiciary committee hearing this morning on teen suicide and how social media is harming youth. cnn's brianna keilar reports now. >> his absence has left a hole in our hearts forever. >> reporter: kristen bride, one of a growing number of parents who have lost a child to cyber bullying. her 16-year-old son carson died by suicide in 2020, after he was harassed on a snapchat integrated app that allowed users to send anonymous messages. >> i woke up to the horror that he had hung himself in our garage while we slept. and there are no words to describe the tragedy of that morning and everyday afterwards. >> reporter: kristen channelled some of her grief into activism, spearheading the passage of carson's law in her home state of oregon. it requires school districts to notify parents or guardians of incidents like cyber bullying and harassment.
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>> i think that there really is a level of helplessness, especially from parents who are trying to keep their kids safe online. >> reporter: she's trying to change that. testifying before congress today, one week after president biden's call to action during his state of the union address. >> we must finally hold social media companies accountable -- >> reporter: the vehicle it provides for cyber bullying are also getting renewed attention as the cdc unveils a new report. it shows significant declines in youth mental health and increased suicide risk in 2021. especially among girls. >> the levels of poor mental health and suicidal thoughts and behaviors reported by teenage girls are now higher than we have ever seen. >> reporter: and is the story of adrian, a 14-year-old student in new jersey, who was attacked by four other teenagers in her school's hallway, has stunned
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the nation. video of her attack was posted to tiktok. her father said she died by suicide the following evening. >> getting hit in the face with a water bottle didn't hurt adriana. what hurt adriana was the embarrassment and humiliation. they just kept coming at her. >> reporter: facebook's internal research revealed how instagram, its photo and video sharing social media service can damage young user's mental health and body image. >> i came forward at great personal risk. >> reporter: prompting whistleblower frances haugen to go public and testify in front of congress in 2021. >> kids who are bullied on instagram, the bullying follows them home, into their bedrooms. the last thing they see before they go to bed at night is someone being cruel to them. >> reporter: at the time, a facebook spokesperson disputed haugen's testimony, but said the company agreed it was time to create standard rules for the internet. >> we remove content that could
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step in and take on social media giants in a meaningful way. >> i really want the committee to see the face, the personal tragedy that is a result of these social media companies being completely unregulated. we need help from the federal government and we need it now. >> and we see the vulnerabilities in the numbers of this new cdc report. one in three teenage girls saying they have considered attempting suicide, one or five gay or bisexual teens saying they attempted in the year before they were surveyed. they navigate a perilous online world we didn't have to deal with as kids. i want to flag, we are putting up the suicide and crisis hotline number, 988, as we talk about these very important and sensitive issues. >> very important number, 988. thank you so much. up next, why elon musk is
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thank you very much. why is it so important for ukraine to have satellite and internet access? >> this is a capability they have had for a while. they have been using it for months. and to shut it off at this critical time or throttle it to reduce its effectiveness, i just felt it was wrong. i do not think it's escalatory, i do not think it's an offensive capability when you are defending yourself, you are going to do it with whatever means you have, and it was just shocking to me that at this moment that's very, at a very critical time, he decided to do this. >> is there any part of you that understands the position he is in? he tweeted at you that we are trying hard to do the right thing, the right thing is extremely difficult and extremely difficult moral question. what is a difficult moral question here? what is he talking about? >> well, first of all, i have a
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lot of respect for elon as an engineer, technologist, certainly a visionary. i mean, he may go down as the thomas edison of our time and i do respect him. but i think what is escalatory is allowing putin to win this war this ukraine. and when you are defending yourself from genocide, defending your people, your infrastructure, to me precision strike capability is not an offensive measure. i guess i get his point if he thinks that this using this capability could lead to world war iii. but in my experience and being a close, you know, student and study of russia, spending time there, understanding, you know, a lot about, think, putin and his motivation, he is not going to back down and we need to defeat him on the battlefield as
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quickly as possible or that's where the escalation will occur. >> this is a two-part question. when we were growing up, anything to do with space seemed that it was nasa, right, it was government regulated. now you have rich guys and these companies that are having to make these decisions or in control of these decisions. why is it the case that ukraine is relying on elon musk's goodwill for something as important as their internet connection? is that something that the u.s. or maybe nato should be providing or could provide? >> you know, i think elon, like i said, he is a brilliant guy. i think he figured out there was a need to provide internet connectivity throughout the world. he felt that there was a business case to do it. i think u.s. government law allowed him to do it. but now i think we are learning that maybe this should be a capability that the u.s. government or nato has control over to allow countries that are
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attacked in this illegal, immoral, genocidal way to defend themselves. and i wish he would -- i wish he would reconsider this. again, to me the biggest point is, when you are -- i mean, this is on ukrainian territory. it's not like he is using this capability to attack russia. the ukrainians are using it to defend themselves from tanks, troops, artillery. to me that is not he is cla totory whatsoever. >> well, scott kelly, so happy you could join us this morning to talk about these things. i wanted to get it the spy balloons. thank you, scott kelly. >> thanks. "cnn this morning" continues right now. ♪ ♪
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