good tuesday morning, i'm erica hill. >> and i'm jim sciutto. where to begin? a place we begin so often a night of terror and heartbreak, this time at michigan state university. a gunman opened fire at two locations on the campus in east lansing, michigan. he killed three students and critically injured five others. cellphone video caught the chaotic moments after gunshots rang out. students forced to run for their lives. some sheltered in place in cafeterias, others had to barricade themselves inside their own dorm rooms. >> take a listen as one witness describes those moments when the gunman entered a classroom and opened fire. >> the shooter came in our room and shot three to four times and i'm pretty sure she -- he hit two -- two students in our classroom. >> police say it was a caller's

tip which led them to the 43-year-old gunman after an hours' long manhunt. police crediting early calls, too, in terms of their response. they say the suspect had no connection to the university and died of a self-inflected gunshot wound. cnn's adrienne broaddus is live in east lansing, michigan, this morning. we just learned a fair amount at that press conference. what else did we learn there? >> reporter: erica, i will take you through what authorities just told us. we learned all of the students who were shot were students, in fact, here at michigan state university. we know the three deceased were students here as well as the other five who are listed in critical condition. investigators telling us the suspect was a 43-year-old and they also identified him as anthony mcrae. investigators were clear and said they do not know right now what this person's motive was. they don't know why he showed up

here at the union, which is behind me, and the other academic hall just next door, and started firing shots. they say he had no connection to msu. investigators did recover a handgun and they also executed a search warrant on a residence linked to the suspect, but investigators would not confirm or deny whether that residence is where this 43-year-old man lived. members of law enforcement were stunned as well as health officials caring for those five who are in critical condition, as well as a lawmaker who went through this in 2020 in november. i was there at the oxford shooting. here is what she had to say. >> for me the most haunting picture of last night was watching the cameras pan through the crowds and seeing a young person wearing an oxford strong sweatshirt. the sweatshirts that were handed

out after those kids lived through a school shooting 15 months ago and we have children in michigan who are living through their second school shooting in under a year and a half. if this is not a wake-up call to do something, i don't know what is. >> reporter: so a lot of emotion there as you can imagine as she's talking about those students who were in their senior year when that oxford school shooting happened and now they are freshmen here at michigan state university. for those of you who may not be familiar with the campus, this is the main thoroughfare, we are on grand river avenue, the union is just behind us. it is the heart of campus. it's where people come between classes. i stopped by the union often during my four years here at michigan state university. the multicultural center is here, there's food places here, smarty's is here, it's a short walk from the sparty statue and

one thing that is likely on the minds of the students who survived this shooting, when they enter a building they will be scanning for an exit. jim and erica? >> it's got to be particularly tough for you having gone to michigan state and see this happen to a place i know is near to you. thank you for bring gs us updates. with us now former washington, d.c. metropolitan police officer michael fanone. good to have you on this morning. >> thanks for having me. >> i've asked these same questions about countless number of times, motive, how did they get the gun, police response, et cetera. you've been in law enforcement for years. is there any more essential fact to an event like this than the fact that this person was able to get a gun? >> i mean, i think that pretty much sums it up. you know, the readily available access to firearms -- i mean, i do think it's important that we

take this time to recognize law enforcement's response in this situation and the cooperation that they had with the public. you know, in an active shooter scenario responding officers are trained that their primary responsibility is to identify and neutralize the threat posed by that shooter, and in this case law enforcement's efficiency in obtaining those surveillance images of the shooter and their decision to release those images to the public that resulted in that tip and ultimately led officers to the shooter's location just shows how effective that relationship can be. >> absolutely, and we heard that from chris rossman in this briefing earlier talking about commending the community, talking about how important it was once that picture was out that somebody was vigilant, they recognized it, they called. when this is now so commonplace, sadly, in this country that we are talking about a shooting as jim said, that we have asked these questions countless times,

what has changed in your view in terms of training, both for responding to these active shooter situations and specifically on a massive campus like this, and even not just the training for officers, but what happens afterwards in terms of the lasting trauma that people in this country have and specifically law enforcement has after continually responding to mass shooting events? >> well, the training changed dramatically in the aftermath of columbine. at that point in time the, you know, train of thought was that law enforcement officers, first responders should set up a perimeter and wait for more specialized units or s.w.a.t. units, your cert units to respond there and make entry into the structure. since then it's changed. when i first came on the police department in 2001 we had five-man response teams, then it was brought down to four, then three and ultimately the first

responding officer's sole responsibility is to enter the structure even if it means alone and identify the shooter and stop that threat. >> the trouble is, michael, right, even with the best training, right, and even with heroes -- i mean, we have had this situation with a number of shootings where folks confront the shooter -- you can kill a lot in seconds, right? particularly with semiautomatic weapons. i was struck by the video, i believe we have it from the roof of a nearby shooting that showed -- first of all, those are people run, right, for their lives, but it shows all the police cars that responded. i mean, it was hard to count, dozens of them. they got there quickly, as quickly as they could -- here you go. they were able to identify a suspect quickly, but he was still able to kill three people and injure five others. i mean, there are limits, are there not, to what even the best trained law enforcement can do?

>> well, absolutely. i mean, law enforcement is a reactive body, you know, our job is to respond to these situations, you know, a lot more needs to be done, obviously, in my opinion, to prevent individuals like this shooter from obtaining firearms, from having firearms. ultimately at the end of the day -- well, listen, jim, i'm a gun owner and i believe in a strong second amendment, but i think that it's important that, you know, we take stock in these situations and recognize that the place our public safety needs ahead of our recreational wants. >> michael fanone, always appreciate your insight, your expertise. thank you. >> thank you. new this morning, former vice president mike pence is expected to fight that subpoena to appear before a grand jury.

the special counsel investigating former president trump is seeking pence's testimony on trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. >> cnn crime and justice reporter katelyn polantz is here now. i thought the former vice president wanted to give his account of the truth out there, but he's fighting this subpoena, can you tell us why and on what basis? >> we don't know if he's fighting yet in that we haven't seen any court filings at this time but he has spoken publicly in the past about some of his conversations with donald trump, the special counsel's office came to him with a subpoena for testimony telling him you need to show up at the grand jury and speak under oath, and now our reporting this morning is that he is going to launch a major unprecedented legal fight, the sort of thing that really has not been tested in courts before. whenever we've talked about these sorts of legal challenges, a lot of the discussion has been around the executive branch, are there protections around the presidency. that was what was theoretically expected with pence, but

actually his team appears to be gearing up to make a different sort of argument that on january 6th he was acting as the president of the senate and thus some productions around him that apply to congress should also expand to him potentially. so that is going to be the type of legal challenge that the courts really haven't made calls on before. >> right. >> and with pence, he could potentially be challenging the full extent of the subpoena, not just declining to answer questions. >> he wrote about some of this in a book that he sold. >> he did, although the speech and debate protection around congress is quite broad, even in criminal cases. sometimes there are members of congress that are subpoenaed to testify in trials and they say we are just not showing up. so we're just going to have to see how this plays out, what the vice presidency actually is. is it a member of congress in this context or is he member of the executive branch? >> and it will drag it out. katelyn polantz, thanks so much. we do have this just into

cnn, the latest inflation numbers are out. they were still hot in january, though there are some signs of some categories of prices cooling down. >> cnn chief business correspondent christine romans joining us now. any surprises for you? >> well, look, you had inflation up 6.4% over the past year and so that's seven months in a row of slightly declining, moderating inflation i would say, but that month over month figure up 0.5% december to january is getting a lot of attention, half of that increase was because of shelter. that's something that's not easy to shield yourself from, shelter inflation. we're watching that carefully. overall you can see the trend 6.4% a little hotter than many on wall street had expected, but it is moderating from that 9.1% pace that we saw last summer. when i show you this month over month, you can see where i was a little concerned about that pop on that last bar, that is because of shelter, that is because of food, natural gas and gasoline prices. those numbers year over year are still troublesome.

what i would say my take away from this is people are still feeling the pinch of inflation. it is still a year into this big story for american households and kitchen table economics, it is not getting dramatically worse, but it's only slowly getting better. i think it shows the fed still has more work to do here to try to slow down the economy a little bit, get the economy growing a little bit below growth potential so that you can start to really stamp out inflation, because inflation is something that's difficult for families. on the shelter front, i'd just like to point out a statistic we've been talking b our team here, rent prices, it was a record increase for rent prices at 8%. so that is -- maybe it will turn around a little bit. also egg prices up 70%, i'm hoping that will turn around. i've been watching wholesale egg prices decline but butter prices up 30% year over year. people still feel t inflation i think is still issue number one for american households. >> i bought eggs yesterday, a

mother of teenagers, and there was a slight decrease. >> great. okay. >> at my local grocery store. >> anecdotal is very important. >> one mom's report. christine, appreciate it. thank you. >> you're welcome. new this morning, another story we're following, nikki haley has officially thrown her hat in the ring for the 2024 presidential race. see her pitch for why republicans, she says, should pick her over donald trump. plus, we will be live in turkey as chef josé andres and his world central kitchen deliver critical food and supplies to earthquake victims as they do so often. also this hour testimony set to resume in alex murdaugh's double murder trial despite two jurors being replaced due to covid. newly released body camera video of alex murdaugh as the first officer arrived at the scene, what that video may tell us. so no hiding under your pillow. or opting for the e couch. your best sleep. all night. every night. for a limited time, save up to $500 onon select tempur-pedic

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showcase some dysfunction between different wings of the party. they obviously know that former president donald trump is in the race, but once other republicans start getting in the race it's going to cause a discussion over different policies, different approaches to politics and the white house thinks that that will benefit president joe biden who has been talking about all of the things that are happening in the economy, talking about bringing jobs back, and so they would rather focus on their message and allow republicans to spend time fighting one another and so they're happy that nikki haley is getting into the race and they're hoping that more republicans get into this race sooner rather than later. >> there are republicans, nancy mace among them, republican congressman nancy mace who this "morning express"ed concerns about too many republicans coming into the primary and, therefore, beginning donald trump the same path he had basically in 2016 of so many folks splitting the vote, he takes 30%, 40%, he is the nominee. >> that is definitely a

possibility. we have not seen any specific republican rise to the top of the pack yet. we have seen a lot of talk about governor ron desantis of florida, he has not thrown his hat into the ring officially yet, even though he is making a lot of moves that show he may be one of the next republicans to join into the presidential race. right now it doesn't appear that he has cleared the field, it doesn't appear that donald trump has cleared the field and so we could see six, seven, eight, nine or ten republicans get into this race. we've seen governors and senators and the number of different people from across the spectrum of the republican party say they're interested and so we could be in a position where you have so many republicans splitting the vote and donald trump has the strongest base of any of the potential candidates so he could be one that comes out on top again. >> do you think we have a good sense this morning of who nikki haley's base is at this point? >> not yet. she says she's going to spend much of the next several weeks trying to define that base,

trying to rally that base. she talked about her background, her upbringing, the fact that she's a woman, also said that, you know, if you are in heels when you kickback it's going to have more of an impact. so i do think she's trying to appeal to women, appeal to suburban women and also appeal to people who want a new generation of leadership, but it's not yet clear that that is a majority of the republican party just yet. >> we'll see. oftentimes the underdog is the one who comes out on top. it's so early in the race. toluse olorunnipa, thanks so much. >> thank you. in the next hour senators are expected to receive a classified intel briefing on those three unidentified objects the u.s. military shot down over the weekend. yesterday the pentagon sent a memo to lawmakers describing the object shot down over canada saturday as a small metallic balloon with a tethered payload below it. >> clearly a variety of things operating in this space. cnn's senior white house correspondent mj lee joins us with more. i wonder when you speak to white

house officials, what's their level of alarm right now? do they believe they have this handled or that they're coming to grips with a bigger threat than they imagined? >> reporter: jim, one thing i can tell you this morning is that given that the biden administration continues to not have a lot of answers on these three objects that were downed over north america in recent days, there's been a lot of focus, obviously, on the recovery efforts, but what one senior administration official is telling us this morning is that it is possible that the u.s. and canada may not be able to recover at all the debris of these three objects. they said if they can't be recovered, it's going to be extremely difficult to say with great certainty what these things were. obviously a huge problem that officials are facing right now is that these three objects were downed over areas that are pretty remote, really being described as the wilderness in some cases, you know, theres a one object that fell into lake huron, they believe, into deepwater, there were the two

other objects over alaska and the yukon where the terrain is really difficult to navigate basically, and the winter weather hasn't been helping, either. so without the debris we are being told that the u.s. intelligence community is really trying to lean on information that they do have, but it is obviously limited. we are talking about mention like observations made by u.s. pilots who were operating those fighter jets and then, of course, the flight patterns of these objects before they were shot down. so this is why we are seeing a situation where the administration is not able to give a lot of answers. there was of course the one thing that the white house was very keen on ruling out yesterday and that was when the white house came out and said, look, what these objects were were not ufos. what the president ordered shot down did not have signs of extraterrestrial activity and the reason we are told by officials that they came out and said that so definitively is because they are sensitive to the fact that we are in a

situation where people might start sort of heading into conspiracy theory territory that these objects are obviously very mysterious in nature and they want to sort of nip that in the bud as quickly as possible, even though they don't have a ton of concrete information they can share about these three objects right now. as you mentioned, we are also obviously seeing just a flurry of activity with senior administration officials trying to brief lawmakers and trying to share with them what they can, but even in some of these classified briefing settings it's just unclear how much more information they can share at this moment in time. jik . >> it's not aliens. mj lee, thank you. still ahead, ukrainian troops are receiving accelerated training now on tanks from western allies, hoping to return to the front lines as soon as possible. what ukraine is hoping to hear from defense secretary lloyd austin, perhaps some more help, when he speaks in moments.

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from warsaw. nic, the latest discussion in terms of new weapons supplies is f-16 fighter jets or nato standard fire jets. i wonder when you're speaking to folks there do they consider that an essential part of ukraine's defense and offense going forward, or is kind of like the next shiny object? >> reporter: i think that they consider it here in poland in particular, but given that the president here has been at the vanguard of pushing for allies to send equipment, military equipment, be it in the early days just ammunition to today they are at the forefront of sending tanks, on the fighter air aircraft, though, he has sort of dialed back the rhetoric a little bit. i think everyone accepts it's going to be necessary but it's not a short-term solution. the air defense and ammunition, europe, nato isn't producing ammunition fast enough to keep up with the way ukraine is consuming it.

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in south carolina the double murder trial of alex murdaugh is resuming this morning. >> picking up where things understandably left off yesterday, that was with powerful graphic testimony from a pathologist. alex murdaugh visibly upset as the witness went into detail about how his wife and son were killed. >> what happened here was an extremely severe immediately fatal injury. the force of this wound actually pushed his -- the brain out of his head. >> what would have been the effect of that wound? >> that would have been immediately fatal and he would not have been standing, he would have just fallen to -- fallen to the ground. >> cnn's randi kaye is live for us this morning outside the courthouse. i mean, those details were -- that was just a small bit of it -- really, frankly, gruesome. very graphic. what else is the jury hearing? >> reporter: yeah, certainly hard to catch, erica. very, very difficult to be in court listening to those

details. alex murdaugh was visibly upset as those details were being shared as well, but that video, the body camera video, was redacted by the court, that's how we received it, so the bodies on the ground have been covered and they're blurred in that video, but you do hear and see sergeant daniel greene, he was first on the scene and the first person he sees when he arrives there is alex murdaugh. moments after he arrives he asked alex murdaugh when the last time was that he saw his family. listen to his response. >> when was the last time you were here with them or talked to them or anything like that? >> um, it was earlier tonight. i don't know the exact time, but -- >> okay. >> i left, i was probably gone an hour and a half from my mom's and i saw them about 45 minutes before that. >> reporter: so alex murdaugh says -- has said that he wasn't home at the time of the murders and he told that sergeant right

there that he hadn't seen his family in hours. the problem with that is that the state says that he was there at the murder scene at the time of the murders. they have extracted video evidence from paul murdaugh's phone at 8:44 p.m., a recording that the state says alex murdaugh can be heard on and also at least a handful of witnesses have also identified alex murdaugh on that video at 8:44 p.m. which would put him at the murder scene around the time of the murder, so that could be a program for him. getting back to that testimony from the pathologist, we did learn some more details about the autopsies. she said that the first shot to paul murdaugh did not kill him, he was shot in the chest, the second shot was to the shoulder and the head, that was the fatal shot. she also said that he was standing at the time, there were no signs of a struggle and that he was facing his attacker, facing the shooter. so if it was his father as the prosecution alleges, he was looking right at him. as far as maggie murdaugh goes, the pathologist says she was shot at least four or five

times, there were four or five wounds on her, the fatal shots were fired when she was on the ground including one to the back of the head. no sign of a struggle with her, either. erica, jim? >> details are alarming. randi kaye, thanks so much. here in the studio defense and trial attorney misty maris. as we go through some of what we learned yesterday, let's start out with the body cam. randi pointed out the questions on the timeline. the other thing that stood out to me is that alex murdaugh brought up this other incident involving his son paul who was killed there, a boat accident. brought that up pretty quickly and we see that on the body cam footage. it seems like an odd thing to bring up, except he's bringing it up saying, oh, i think i know why this happened, we've been getting these strange calls related to this incident. this must be why they were killed. >> absolutely. we heard that and we've seen that before, that's part of both sides' narrative. so the prosecution is saying this is the murdaughs doing what they did before and we heard

testimony about the death of mallory beach. the testimony there that the murdaughs were on the scene, trying to manipulate the narrative right from the get-go. well, analogous to that now we have alex murdaugh presenting this alternative theory of what could have happened on that night right away, immediately. one of the first things he says to the responding officers. so that's how the prosecution is going to use that as part of their narrative and try to make that connection with the jury. now, from the defense point of view, they're going to say, look, this was something that was plaguing the family and there are all of these other people, including those who might have been stiffed in these financial crimes, others involved in the mallory pebeach the threats to the family, they also had a bone to pick with this family and could have been the perpetrators. they will do that to try to raise reasonable doubt, this alternative theory we've heard right from the beginning, right from opening statements. >> something else that stood out, i was asking you questions about the testimony yesterday, there was this graphic testimony

from a number of different people involved in the pathology here, these forensic scientists. we heard not just about the wounds as randi was detailing there that killed them, but also there was some testimony about dna that was found under her fingernails, but it was such a small amount that they said it didn't even meet the threshold for creating a dna profile. there's really not enough there, right, to tell you who it belonged to. you say that's a point for the defense, why? >> absolutely. because the defense is, again, going to use that to say there could have been somebody else on this scene. remember the defense doesn't have to prove that somebody else committed this crime, what the defense needs to do is raise reasonable doubt. so by using that dna under maggie murdaugh's fingernail and we heard this on cross-examination, they said wouldn't it be odd she had just gotten a manicure, when would she have had the opportunity other than on that property that night to get that dna underneath the fingernails. and could this have been someone who committed this crime?

again, to your point, the defense is saying that this investigation was botched from the get-go. prosecution getting ahead of that in that testimony, look, this wasn't even enough to test to get a dna profile to potentially identify someone. but the defense is going to be using that in conjunction with other evidence, for instance, the muddy footprint that could have been on maggie murdaugh's calf, the hairs that were in maggie murdaugh's fist during the autopsy that have yet to be a part of this trial, we haven't heard more on that. they will use that totality of the circumstances to say this could have been somebody else and you cannot convict alex murdaugh for that crime. >> it is fascinating as it always is. good to have you here. appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. more than a week after just a devastating earthquake in turkey and syria. teams are still managing to make miraculous rescues in turkey but, boy, the survivors need critical help. i will speak with chef josé andres, his world central

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the death toll from the earthquake -- earthquakes really in turkey and syria has now surpassed 37,000 people this morning and even as the two nations grapple with the staggering number of dead rescue teams somehow are still hearing voices of survivors beneath the rubble. in one city first responders dug a tunnel under the debris of an eight-story building after hearing someone's voice as they worked their way through the ruins rescuers kept the young man talking to prevent him from passing out. in the end they were able to pull the 18-year-old man out. there you see him. amid the destruction aid groups have been working doing their best to help the survivors. one organization often at the forefront of this is world central kitchen, it's been serving more than 90,000 hot meals every day. i'm joined by the organization's founder, chef josé andres, who is in turkey. chef andres, good to have you on this morning. thank you for taking the time. >> thank you for having me. >> i think for folks outside the

country it's difficult to understand just the scale of this disaster. being there now, can you help describe to people just how far and wide the destruction is? >> well, jim, i've been able to drive very much around almost all the perimeter of these earthquake over the last seven days. i was two days ago in the north end part, right now i'm on my way to hatay in the southern part near the border with syria. we are talking around 450 kilometers in distance from one point to another wide plus add another 200, 300 kilometers. this is massive. i remember 2010, we remember that huge earthquake. this was one city.

one city that was destroyed. tens of thousands of people died. it was one city. when america and international community came to help, we concentrated in one city. here we are talking about ten major cities all across the eastern part of ukraine. this is massive from the mountains to the sea, this is massive. this is like 10, 20 earthquakes all at once. >> one of the issues of course has been access there, particularly in syria. i wonder are aid groups like your own able to get to the areas where people need help the most? >> obviously what is going on in syria, it is something that we cannot keep supporting meals without raising our voices for the people of syria need your help, but obviously the situation is very complicated. politically we know it is about the war and the different

factions and luckily for us, we are trying to go to syria, and two days ago, the members with the kitchen, and we are very known local ngo, we were able to cross, and already we have been bringing 10,000 meals, but this is like put your finger in one hole of thousands. in this situation when we delivered these meals in one hour from the border, inside of syria, it was tense. why? because people were hungry, and that is why the international community, and the u.n. was with the program and all of the organizations, we are together combined need to take care of those people in syria that are hungry, that they feel desperate that we need to be providing them with blankets and places to be built, but more needs to be done and more needs to be done. if you show up every day, things will be more calm, but the

people of the world, we need to do more for the people of syria. >> you were describing to me how whole cities need to be built for the ones that fell and those that are presuming not to be safe anymore and i imagine that the people need to be fed there for a long, long time. >> oh, in the kitchen emergency, we have done the best we can to ramp up very quickly, and we have in total more than 30 kitchens that we are using local partners and restaurants and who better than the local restaurants, and ones that their buildings we can see that they are safe, and we have engineers to make sure they are safe and cooking from the kitchens and doing already more than 120,000 meals a day, and probably we are going to have to in the next few days reach up to 200,000, and we have eight kitchens from the

center of the start of the center to help feeding those camps that they keep opening and as people are realize that they cannot be near their old homes, because they are not safe for them to go in. they are looking for the places where they can bring their families and go to the very hard winter and still 10 to 20 celsius, and they are freezing cold and you see the fires at night, because people need to be warm, and sometimes waiting in front of the building still hoping they will find a loved one alive or even finding bodies so they can do the right thing with their family member. the situation all across, yes, the food is going to have to be very important, and this is the stations, and we are going to tell the people one thing, the turkish people are amaziamazing this is a food culture thing, and whoever had a kitchen in the

early hours, they will be cooking and put the food in the back of the car or their truck, and they will go somewhere and they will open the car, and lines of people will be forming in those random humanitarians that these will go across turkey and people receiving a plate of hot food in these cold nights of turkey. >> thank you for everything that you are doing. we say not only do you feed the people, but you eat well and the food tastes good, and make its a lot of difference. chef jose andres, thank you so much. >> well, watching this, i am sure that you want to help organizations such as world central kitchen to get the aid where it is needed. go to cnn.com/impact, and there are so many vetted organizations that can help. >> on the airliner that plunged

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a united airlines flight from hawaii plunging to the ocean moments after takeoff and actually came within 800 feet of sea level. >> it had to be scary for the passengers, and the previously unreported incident in december is parking new interest today. gabe cohen has the details. >> reporter: another alarming incident in u.s. aviation. a united 777 diving towards the ocean just after takeoff. >> it felt like a roller coaster. >> reporter: rob williams was traveling home from vacation with his family. >> it is one where you are counting your blessings and

worrying about your family. >> reporter: the plane took off and then starts to plunge to the ocean and falling for 21 seconds and reaching 775 feet above sea level before it abruptly leveled out and then ascending again, and the plane which can carry more than 300 passengers was mostly full according to williams. >> what did the pilots tell the passengers? >> they got on the intercom and said, whoops, ladies and gentlemen, probably felt a couple of gs on that one, and everything is going to be okay. >> reporter: the crew reported the incident after landing safely in san francisco, and after investigation, the pilots who have a combined 25,000 hours of flight time received additional training, but neither the faa or united will say why the pilots ended up in the dive, telling cnn that the safety investigations are