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thnc . this is a story that everybody is fascinated with. is it a bird, plane? >> even pilots want to know. >> everyone wants to know. good morning, everyone. poppy on assignment. that was new cockpit audio of a u.s. fighter jets intercepting a mysterious flying object over michigan. more on that in a moment. but first -- donald trump's first major 2024 challenger kicking off the race with a speech just hours from now. how many other republicans will join the fray? that's a question as well. >> spoiler alert, a lot. trump's legal team could be
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getting deeper over classified documents that he took to mar-a-lago. the justice department is now saying they believe there is evidence of a crime as they are trying to force one of his attorneys to testify without attorney-client privilege. he was previously arrested on a felony gun charge. so why and how did the michigan state mass shooter have a pistol in the first place and there's a new study from the secret service. is there a typical profile of a mass shooter? we'll get to all that. will we'll begin in south carolina. that is where the contentious race to be the republican presidential nominee is starting to take off. just hours from now, donald trump's first major challenger nikki haley set to give her official announcement speech in charleston in the past haley said she would never run against her former boss. but she kicked off her campaign with a video that took some digs at trump. a field of contenders begins to build, it is unclear how crowded it will get. but it could get really crowded.
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this are plenty -- how do we fit all the people on the screen? >> do we have to shrink them down? >> it's like a game if you can name everybody. >> yeah. mixed potential candidates who might take on trump up on your screen right now. cnn's political director joins us now with more. david, you got your work cut out for you. first up, nikki haley expected to host a first event of her 2024 presidential campaign later today. so what do we expect? >> this is the beginning risris right? this is the new phase. donald trump had the entire campaign to himself. the only declared major candidate since november. now nikki haley getting in. prepare yourself. she's not -- it's not going to be a one-on-one haley versus trump for that long. but who the is nikki haley? she is 51 years old, she is a
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first generation american. she is the former u.n. ambassador. the first female governor of south carolina. she was elected to two terms. she didn't finish second term because she went into the trump administration and led the removal of that confederate flag from the south carolina state house in one of her highest profile moments as governor of south carolina. >> she has quite the resume. you looked at that graphic of everyone we think is going to run for this gop nomination. what do we expect her to say at this event? >> i think she gave us a good preview in that video you showed a little bit that where she is going to make a generational argument that it's time for a new generation of leadership, that, of course, is both inside the context of the republican primary, donald trump on the older end, but also in taking on joe biden, the oldest person to serve as president. she will do, i think, try to do two things here. she is going to offer red meat to the republican base primary
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voter, talking about things like america is not racist and we have to get back to our foundational values, the kinds of things that excite the base to here. but she is going to broaden the appeal of the republican brand. by talking about her story of child of immigrants, a woman of color. she's going to try to expand sort of the very image of the republican party in her speech as well. >> all right. let's talk about the other folks up there on the screen that we squeezed everybody's face on. we expect senator tim scott to jump in soon. so give us a better sense of the republican candidates that may be in the running here. >> yeah. i narrowed it down just a little bit from that graphic. i think the eight folks are the most likely, i think, to make a bid. they're forming operations, doing a lot of the early leg work. so in addition to tim scott, as you said, by the way, he's having his own event in south carolina tomorrow. he's not going to be in iowa. he is definitely on a presidential listening tour if
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you will. you have ron desantis in florida, of course. he's not likely to get in until his legislature wraps the business end of may, beginning of june. mike pompeo, mike pence, two former administration officials under donald trump. and then you have asa hutchison, former governor of arkansas. glen yunkin and larry hogan, the former governor of maryland. they all occupy a different space inside the republican party. i think these folks are likely to get in. who's not getting in? some folks have made it clear. tom cotton, the senator from arkansas said, no thank you. marco rubio just yesterday said he's not running. and ted cruz indicated he is focused on re-election in texas. >> i'll say something positive about those three people. they're smart. who would want to be presidentst united -- president of the united states? i always say that. >> marco rubio said yo why woule run and miss all the fun happening on capitol hill right now? >> true. thank you, david.
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we'll follow nikki haley later. lots of coverage. david will be a part of it. >> also this morning, we're tracking one of the most aggressive moves we've seen yet from the special counsel who is investigating trump's handling of classified documents. they're alleging in writing to a judge that they believe the former president has used one of his attorneys in furthering a crime or fraud. therefore, they want to get to what is known as the crime fraud exception which means they will be able to speak to evan corchran again, this time though without that protection of attorney-client privilege. they're asking a court to compel evan corchran to testify before the grand jury. he already did so for four hours last month. cnn's senior legal affairs correspondent paula reid is joining us now. paula, you and i have been tracking this legal team and what's happening with this investigation ever since really this started. really with that search of mar-a-lago. this is a really big deal though.
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>> this is a big deal. this is more aggressive moves we've seen from this special counsel alleging that there was potentially criminal activity by the former president and his attorneys. so prosecutors want corchran to come back. they want the court to force him to answer questions. the first time he came in, he was, of course, asked about the events leading up to the august search of mar-a-lago. and he invoked attorney-client privilege. that is his right. but now prosecutors are arguing that the court should invoke one of the few exceptions to the attorney-client privilege because they say that former president trump may have used corchran's advice or corchran himself in furtherance of a crime. so this is a significant development in this on going grand jury investigation. and i will will say the former president has also weighed in on this. his spokesman issued a statement. they described this as, quote, the weaponization of the justice department. but they're also under
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investigation for retaining classified classified documents. he is not under investigation for possibly trying to obstruct that probe. >> yeah. big questions and whether or not evan corchran may have to go before them without that attorney-client privilege. we'll see what the judge decides here. of paula reid, great reporting. thank you. michigan state university identified the three students tragically killed monday night by campus gunman. they are brian frasier, alexandria verner and arielle anderson. arielle was a junior and native of grosse pointe. her high school superintendent said her kindness was on display every second you were around her. brian fa br brian frasier was described as a leader and a friend. and junior alexandria verner was from a tiny community north of detroit where she knew almost everybody. during her high school years, she was a three sport athlete as
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well as an excellent student, active in many leadership groups. five other students remain in the hospital in critical condition. and this morning we're learning new details about the gunman. his father describing hims is a momma's boy who became bitter, isolated and angry after his mother died from a stroke two years ago. anthony dewayne mccray who police said died of a self inflicted gunshot wound after killing his killing spree was 43 years old. he was charged with carrying a concealed weapon without a permit. that was back in 2019. he pleaded good the to the misdemeanor and served a year and a half of probation. he was also able to buy two guns in 2021 though it's not clear, not yet clear if those guns were purchased legally or not. most mass shooters exhibit preattack behaviors like -- that raise concern in people around them. that's according to a new study by the u.s. secret service. we're curious, why isn't more being done by the public to report those red flags?
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josh campbell is digging into the data for us. he joins us now. josh, good morning to you. so there was no profile here of a mass shooter, i am told, right? a michigan state shooter, he compares to other recent incidents, i'm sure. but what is -- is there a profile for a mass shooter? and do these -- especially the latest shooters -- do they stack up to that or line up with that? >> yeah, don. there is no typical profile. there are commonalities. the secret service went back and looked at 180 recent mass shooters. i'll show you as we throw up that graphic, i'll break down what they found. particularly as it relates to age. the overall majority of recent shooters were young men. but as you look at this michigan state shooter, 43 years old. he fell within that age range that makes up about 20% of recent mass shooters. as we look at the next graph as it pertains to race. 34%, about a third of recent
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mass shooters were african american. so when you combine age and you combine race, he is somewhat of an outlier. but, don, one area where he appears to so closely resemble mass shooting characteristics that investigators found pertains to his behavior prior to the attack. take a listen here to one of the authors of that secret service report who told cnn the one commonality that they found in so many of these mass shooters. >> consistently across the five years that we studied, grievances were by far the most common motive for the attackers. and they could have been related to interpersonal conflicts, workplace grievances. >> so, don, that investigator telling us that this is what they see. the grievances. of course, we know the shooter's father told cnn that in the past, you know, a few couple years, his son went on this downward spiral, particularly after the death of his mother. again that, is something that investigators try to look for. is there some kind of motivating
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behavior, a factor in their life that appears it could have been partially at play here, don. >> we always sort of think of it as like a 20 or 30 something loner. but there isn't a specific profile. it's easy, though, josh, to feel hopeless and awake of all the mass shootings. but security experts say there are specific ways that the public can help stop the violence. so what are they saying? >> you need to be aware. you need to be on the lookout for characteristics that include someone who is becoming increasingly detached. people obviously who are discussing self harm. if you have someone that has those traits and also gathering firearms, that's obviously a concern. the good news if there is any good news in any of this is investigators say it doesn't take a trained investigator to identify some of these areas of concern. i spoke with my former fbi colleague and she created the fbi's active shooter program in the wake of sandy hook. she said that their research shows that so often these traits
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are on full display for people who are immediately surrounding mass shooters. take a listen. >> if it's a schoolmate, 90% of the time it's one of their classmates. 70% to 80% one of the teachers or faculty members. much if it's an individual not in school, then we're looking for somebody who is their partner, their spouse, their workmate. it is hard sometimes to get people over the hump of i don't want to get involved. but i would say think about this. you're not only potentially saving somebody who you know because you're around them from committing suicide and killing other people, but you may be saving your own life and the lives of your own family members. >> now experts tell tluus there a stigma out there. they think it is a stretch or don't want to get people in trouble. we're in this era with this gun violence that law enforcement researchers say it's pastime that people remain concerned about that. you have to put the concerns
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aside and try to seek help for people who might be in these situations and it's important to note, you can report information anonymously. go to tips.fbi.gov if you have concerns. you have to report it. we have to get past this stigma. so many incidents, don, people in the shooter's orbit saw something they just didn't report. >> tips.fbi.gov. great information. thank you, josh. >> you bet. also this morning, on the international front, new western intelligence says they're starting to gather aircraft. this is an parent attempt to bolster the trouble it is having with the land defensive. they're trying to bolster with jets and helicopters. all of this is also happening as the defense secretary lloyd austin says ukraine is expected to conduct an offensive against russia in the coming months. >> and so we believe that there will be a window of opportunity
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for them to exercise initiative and then change -- or continue to create the right conditions on the battlefield there. >> big questions about those conditions. cnn's reporter is at the border crossing. fred, as you're hearing the warnings from the u.s. and from other western allies, what were you seeing on the actual ground? >> hi there. i can tell you certainly seems as though ukraine is concerned there might be another invasion coming also from the territory of belaruse obviously involving russian troops. we're in a remarkable place. we're on the border between belaruse and ukraine. you can see here this is barb wire fence. only a couple yards down the road over there that, is already ukrainian territory. as you guys can see, it's heavily fortified. there are several layers of barbed wire. there is also some things that were put up, earth mounds to essentially stop anyone from
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going through there. that border crossing on the ukrainian side is absolutely barricaded from what we can see. we know that from the belaruse side, it is functioning. on the ukrainian side, all the border crossings have been closed because the ukrainians have that fear they could be attacked from the territory of belaruse. one thing that is also going on here that i want to point out is that there is some international trolling going on here. if our camera operator, can you zoom in on that? there is a ukrainian flag there. the other flag next to that is the opposition flag. and i can tell one thing. the authorities are not happy about that. the border guys around here, they have called that a provication by the ukrainians. we do have to point out we're on an organized press tour by the b belarussian government. we're restricted by movement in the country. the northwestern border crossing, one of the northwestern border crossings.
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you find more russian forces in the northeast. but nevertheless, you can slooet abso -- absolutely see the tension here. ukraine is bracing for a possible another offensive by the russians and fearing there could be elements from this country as well. >> given the role that belaruse played in the initial invasion a year ago. you can see why they feel that way. fred, fascinating report. thank you. just moments we'll follow up with dr. sanjay gupta. he is in turkey getting an inside look at the top trauma hospitals following the earthquake there. you'll want to see that. and spying in the air and possibly on your phones. we're going to speak to angus king and mike gallagher about concerns about china and cybersecurity. there they are. we'll see them on the other side.
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those are f-16 pilots trying but kind of struggling to describe a mystery thooobject t was in the sky. pilots shot down the object after missing on the first shot. given all this and what we've seen, the senate got a briefing on the classified objects. they had an unclassified phone call on it. this is coming amid a bipartisan effort to counter china on several fronts. joining us are two law makers from different sides of the aisle but both at the forefront of this issue. angus king of maine and he serves on the intelligence committee. and republican congressman mike gallagher of the house intelligence committee and select committee on strategic competition between the united states and china. so the two perfect guests here to describe this. given the briefings that each of you received yesterday, i think our first question is it clear to you what these objects were that have been shot down, the three of them? and that the u.s. will be able
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to recover them? >> well, i think, kaitlan, the answer is no. it's not clear what these objects were. we're very clear on the balloon issue on the chinese balloon, where it came from and we're getting more and more clarity on what its mission was as the debris is recovered off of south carolina. but these other three objects we still don't know. they were much smaller. we don't know who sponsored them, what the mission was. and you can't reveal any classified information. basically, i can tell you that we're still searching for the debris and we'll know much more when we find it. >> kaitlan mentioned in the introduction that the senators got a briefing yesterday. i want to play a little bit of what they said coming out of that briefing and then get you guys to respond. here it is. >> it was a really uninformative briefing. >> if you're confused, you
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understand the situation perfectly. >> we're still trying to figure out exactly what some of these things were. and they were not in the category of the balloon. >> so here's what i found interesting. those gentlemen, they didn't say it there. senator kennedy from louisiana from my home state said if you were under the impression that things were falling out of the sky, let me just tell you, that is not happening here. even lindsey graham saying, you know, let's calm down a little bit. i was surprised because they were so critical of the administration. what do you make of their reaction and do you feel the same way? >> for years now we had a problem with unidentified aerial phenomena. uaps fouling our ranges, things showing up in training ranges and us not knowing what they are. we tried to get the administration and the previous administration as well to take this more seriously. until now, until it bursts into
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public view, it really didn't get the attention it deserved. that is why there is major oversight. i am am an intel officer by trade. i think now is a time that demands complete transparency. americans are unnerved. they're concerned about the idea that we don't have complete control over what is happening if our airspace. i would urge the administration to just err on the side of transparency. put it out there in the open for people to see including the first incident. put the chinese spy balloon once we analyze it out there so we understand exactly what is happening in our area. >> you don't feel they're being as transparent as they can be? >> i think right now as senator king eluded to, there is a lot of unanswered questions with the incidents two, three, and four. that i don't fault them because there is an on going recovery effort and until we recover it and analyze it, we won't know the origin of that. i really think we need to be open and honest. i have been disappointed with
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the details in the briefings. i'm hoping we get more details going forward. this is an area where we have bipartisan concerns and i think we can resolve it in a bipartisan fashion. >> senator, do you agree with that? do you think they should be more public about, you know, what they do know and don't know? >> yes. absolutely. it's the instinct to hold information tight even if it's not necessary. the real reason for keeping things classified is not revealing sources and methods. how did we learn things? we don't want to signal that to our adversaries. but in this case, i agree with mike that the more transparency, the better. as he said, people are sort of unnerved by this. but in terms of the briefing yesterday, they told us what they know. it wasn't that they were holding anything back. at least as far as i could tell. i know a lot of those individuals. right now they're just -- we are just not going to know anything for probably a week as they try to gather whatever remains they can find and these objects they
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shot down. >> let me ask you then. this is a matter of obviously national security. but it is also, you know, foreign affairs. and the concern about china here. in an editorial on chinese state media. shooting down the balloon showed how immature and irresponsible and hysterical the united states is dealing with the case. do you think shooting down an unknown aerial object in the sky makes the u.s. look weak? is that a problem with a foreign adversary like china that they may see this as an aggressive action? go ahead, mike. i see you shaking your head there. >> not at all. this is -- chinese state media would have you believe this is a civilian weather balloon. the idea that we are the ones who are provoking, when they're the ones violating our airspace, violating international law, i think is laughable. what makes us look weak is if we do nothing in response to this
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violation of our sovereignty. i would say senator angus king and i worked together and we discovered the chinese are violating our sovereignty every day and crossing our border every single second incyberspace. there is much more we need to do to protect our domestic infrastructure here. but to do nothing and allow this aggression to continue, i think would invite further aggression. >> senator, one thing the two of you are working on is you're saying people are so worried about balloons and objects being shot out of the sky. every day on their phones, you know, maybe all people watching their kids have tiktok. you're saying that those surveillance efforts, you said, basically americans are voluntarily giving up their browsing and viewing habits to the chinese government. >> well, it's important, kaitlan to start with an understanding that in china, according to their law, any private company has to give up information or data that is in its possession
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when requested by the government. so in effect, that makes every private company whether it's tiktok or anything else an agent of the chinese government. that's really what the issue is here. by the way, we can't say definitively that they're using tiktok in this way. but the risk is very great because the use of this app, they can essentially know where people are going, what they're looking at, what they're doing. they can also use it for disinformation. they can use it in subtle ways with their algorithm to steer our kids in certain directions or our people that are using tiktok. so that's why mike gallagher in the house, marco rubio and i in the senate introduced a bill to ban it, which isn't the preferred alternative, or for them to sell it to an american or a western company so that this pipeline into intelligence agencies in beijing is cut off. it's unacceptable risk. we're talking about one big
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balloon. how about 62 million users of tiktok every day in the united states? that's where there is a serious risk. >> let's hope something can get done with both parties in the house and the senate. thank you, gentlemen, for joining us this morning. appreciate it. >> thank you, don. it has been nine days since devastating earthquake in turkey and syria. somehow rescues are still finding people alive. and this -- >> tells me they had some 5,000 patient that's have come here over the last seven days. the orthopedic surgeons and nur r -- neurosurgeons are operating for seven days straight. >> that is sanjay gupta getting access to the busiest hospital in turkekey. so no more n udging your partner. or opting for the couch. because the tempur-ergo smart base is our firsrst system that detects snoring and automamatically adjusts to help reduce it.
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it's hard to believe that death toll in turkey surpassed 41,000 people. somehow though, rescuers are still hearing voices coming from the rubble.
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the efforts are still under way. somehow people are still being pulled out alive. this couple was saved from a collapsed five-story apartment building in turkey. you can see them being brought out by the crews there. also here, a 77-year-old woman was saved after she spent almost nine days under the rubble. family members on the scene were just amazed. they hugged her after she emerged. we're getting word that a 45-year-old woman was rescued today after 222 hours. the turkish president says that more than 13,000 people are still in the hospital. cnn's dr. sanjay gupta went to turkey and on the ground looking at what those efforts for those 13,000 that are still in the hospital look like. >> reporter: guys, i made my way to an airstrip here, a turkish military airstrip where so many of the donations from all over the world, this is where they arrive. and then helicopters and planes and other vehicles come and take
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these supplies and try to get them to places where people really need them. we talked about more than 41,000 people have tragically died. there are also a lot of people vif survivor that's are injured and in need of the supplies. we went to the largest trauma center in this area. a trauma center not damaged by the quake. and they've been taking care of patients, thousands of patients, 5,000, over the last several days. i want to give you a look at what it takes to run a trauma center in the middle of an earthquake zone. >> reporter: time is the great equalizer in hospitals all across turkey. and there is not enough of it here at the teaching and research hospital. >> the patients come in with fractures and injuries. >> patients are consistently lost.
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tissue. tissue lost and brain trauma. >> reporter: this doctor is chief of staff here. within minutes, his trauma team paged again. another helicopter is arriving. we're now walking with the chief of staff to the hospital to the heli it is pad. they had 5,000 patients that have come here over the last seven days. orthopedic surgeons, neuro neurosurgeons have been operating for seven days straight. this is the largest trauma hospital in the quake zone. the doctors move fast. the goal, to care for this 26-year-old woman. her kidneys are failing from something known as crush syndrome. too many toxins released into her blood after her limb was finally freed. she will emergency kidney dialysis. patients from the quake zone finally, thankfully, making it here for help.
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in one with the most remarkable story i have heard. this beautiful family of five felt the earth shake and then watched the unthinkable happen. >> translator: our block was seven stories high. >> reporter: they could do nothing but watch as their 8 8-month-old baby was thrown from the window five stories to the ground. and then look what happened to their building. just flattened. somehow the baby survived. after being trapped herself for almost 14 hours. she began to dig and scrape through the rubble for any sign, any sign at all that her baby girl was still alive. >> translator: and at that point, the fifth day we thought we would be seeing her lifeless body. >> reporter: but then something astonishing happened. someone showed them this post on twitter. at first they weren't sure. but this baby girl looked very
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much like her daughter. >> translator: you see, we had no idea she had been saved. >> reporter: in the chaos, a good samaritan rescued the girl and she was flown here, broken and battered, left leg shattered, skull fractured, a small collection of blood on her brain but, yes, very much alive. just such a miraculous story. you think about that 8-month-old girl. she was thrown out the window. but had she not been thrown out the window, she likely would have been crushed. you saw how that building was so pancaked. people don't like to use the word miracle very often. but that was pretty miraculous, you have to agree. guys, this is an area, turkish airstrip, where so many of the donations coming in from all over the world. this is where they arrive. then there's planes and helicopters and other vehicles that take these supplies and get them to the people who need them
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the most. keep in mind, there are a lot of people that are still out there. they survived. but they may be injured and they're in tremendous need. and that's what these supplies are going to help serve. >> yeah. the word miracle is right. >> yeah. thank goodness for that. and also the sheer will to live sometimes, right? most times carries people through. i hope there is a lot more of that. our thanks to the doctor. a florida daycare under fire for how one teacher decided to celebrate black history month. >> she's like they painted all the children's faces black face and sent messages out saying happy black history month. there is no words. is this even real?
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a miami daycare under fire after a teacher had her children, some just 2 years old, wear black face to celebrate black history month. cnn's athena jones reports. i'm appalled, flabbergasted. there's no words. is this even real? >> reporter: this is how a daycare in miami celebrated black history month. a classroom full of 2-year-olds in black face. >> where are the checks and balances? >> reporter: courtney's 1-year-old daughter attended the daycare but not in this class says she was horrified when another parent at the school shared these photos originally posted on the daycare's app. they have since been removed. >> i get a phone call. from a close mom friend whose child also goes to the school. and she is like oh, my gosh. you won't believe what they have done in our child's class. like, i'm sickened right now. i'm completely -- i -- there is no words. tell me. she said they painted all the
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children's faces black face and sent messages out saying happy black history month. >> reporter: she reached out to the daycare owner and director that same day. >> and immediately seeing the screen shot over to her and let her know, this is racist. her response, i'm sorry, question mark. i don't understand. what are you saying? what is racist? black face. in our school, we don't use this word neither. we have this kind of mind. >> reporter: as a mother of two young bi-racial children, she says it's hard to protect them. >> i thought we would have more time before these sort of things or -- or racism or microagressions would be experienced by our children. >> reporter: reached by cnn, they declined to comment. they wrote, we have received a comment from one of our parents regarding the activity done in the teacher's class for black history month. we did not intend to offend
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anyone and very sorry. the following money she sent another message about improving the training of daycare staff. following a black history month incident, we want to let all of the parents know that we met friday afternoon with all the teachers and staff. we went over several ethical and multicultural education points. i will teach them a class covering all the necessary topics regarding u.s. history and multicultural education. you may rest assured this will never happen again. but that promise wasn't enough for courtney. she pulled her two children out of two separate branches of the studio kids daycare and is looking for another childcare provider. >> bottom line is we can't trust them with our children. >> and that is the thing that is most concerning. she can't trust this -- these administerors to take care of and educate her children. she said i understand that teachers have the freedom to create activities for the class but there are so many other ways can you celebrate black history month. another school they painted traffic signals.
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they learned about garret morgan, a black inventor that got one of the first patents for a traffic signal. and so their activity was painting traffic signals. she wonders why in this class the teachers decided to dress the kids up as division professions and paint their faces black. that is not a celebration of black history. she wonders how this could slip through the cracks. >> this is why knowing history and teaching the correct history of the country is important. then you don't do really ignorant things. >> exactly. education is key. >> again, in preschool and daycare. of thank you very much, athena jones. so let's talk about what is happening in relation to this. religious leaders and activists around the country traveling to florida today to protest in part governor ron desantis attempt to ban an a.p. african american studies course. >> our department of education looked at that and said in florida we do education, not indoctrination. and so that runs afoul of our standards. many people agree with that in
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other states. we were just the only ones that had the backbone to stand up and do it because they call you names and they demagogue you when you do it. i'm so sick of people not doing what is right because they're worried that people are going to call them names. we're doing what's right here. >> all right. there is a lot to discuss when it comes to. this joining us now is senior pastor at bethel church in jacksonville, florida, rudolph mckisick. thank you for joining us, bishop. i want your response to this. i want to hear what you think about this whole black face incident. is it -- do you think that this is sort of proof that we should be learning more about the true his history of the country don. absolutely. i think it is insulting and offensive and evidence that we do need greater education about black history and about our
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contribution to this country so that persons can adequately display and portray who we are during this month. >> and bishop, you are going to this protest today. what is the biggest message, the clearest line up want to get across by going and attending? >> well, we want to be very clear that we are not here just to make a statement, but we are here to effect a change. governor desantis says they want education and not indoctrination, and we want to be very clear to not miss the forest because of the trees. this is not just about an a.p. course. it's about his attempt to dilute colleges and schools that teach diversity, equity and inclusion. and it is our attempt to say we will not allow you to redact our history, whitewash our history, because in doing that you are
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left with nothing but a conservative consciousness and thought about black history, which, in effect, is indoctrination. so we are not the ones doing the indoctrinating. he is doing it. >> the idea of the history that many of us were taught growing up, you know, christopher columbus discovered america, which leaves out and puts native americans being here to the side, right? sort of a history that makes certain people look good. his office says that it is both dishonest and incorrect to claim that florida is banning black history and says that florida has a black history requirement in state statute. what is your response to that? >> i think it's a great talking point but it's disingenuous. we are not saying they don't teach black history. we are saying you want to redact black history to teach it the way you want it so that this
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generation is not uncomfortable. . so we're not the ones who dishonest. they are, because we are not whitewashing our history. >> you are saying he is dishonest. do you think he is dishonest -- do you think he is like that teacher who just doesn't get it because they haven't been taught? or do you think he is flat outlying and being dishonest about it? >> no, i think he grets it. i think he is using our state as the test lab to see how the nation responds because he wants to run for president. and what we want to show the nation, don, is if you allow him
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to run for president, what you are seeing in a micro cosmic way in florida is what you will see in a macro cosmic way in the nation. >> bishop mckissic, thank you very much. appreciate you coming on cnn this morning. >> thank you, my friend. and as we follow these conversations and what's happening in florida, that protest, we will continue to monitor it today, we are learning about gabby petito's family, their attorney telling a florida court they believe brian laundrie mother wrote him a letter that had references to getting a shovel, burying a body. more on that ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪
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jean casares with the latest. so this was a letter that they say was found in his backpack, right? >> this was, yes. this was a civil hearing yesterday. it was a status hearing. it was about discovery going back and forth. up, who is representing the petitos, because this is the petitos versus the laundries, and he said, your honor, we are a aware of a letter that roberta laundrie wrote to her son, brian, and that letter is in the possession of the defense and that letter says, and here is a quote from patrick reilly in court, things were expressed, including helping getting him out of prison, getting a shovel and some other things. and we want that letter, your honor. the defense stood stood up, matthew luka representing the laundries and said this isn't relevant. this letter was written a long time before they ever went on their trip. patrick reilly said, your honor, the letter is not dated.
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on the front of the envelope it says "burn after reading." now, so it went back and forth. the judge says i believe it is relevant and this case is proceeding to trial, all right? in florida. so the plaintiffs, the petitos will have a request to get that letter, but there will still be a battle. i want to tell you about this case. is intentional inflings of emotional distress ways. that time period when gabby was missing and the petitos were calling over and over and over again the laundries, texting them, do you know anything? they did not respond and they blocked them on facebook and they say that during that time that was intentional infliction of emotional distress. under florida law, it has to be outrageous behavior, beyond the norms of sissi. the laundries are saying we had no right -- we had no duty to you to have to respond to you. that is our right to stay silent at that moment in time. this case, if proceeding t

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