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top of the hour here in the cnn newsroom. i'm erica hill. >> i'm jim sciutto.
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this morning students and faculty at michigan state university are back on campus after the deadly, horrible shooting there. only, though, with an fbi escort so they can recover personal items left behind in the chaos. >> we're also learning more about the three young lives that were cut short. 20-year-old brian fraser, 19-year-old arielle anderson and 20-year-old alexandria verner were killed in that shooting. we're getting details about the gunman and what he left behind. we're also watching just about an hour from now, former south carolina governor nikki haley set to formally set to jump into the race for the white house. new details about who will introduce her at a rally in charlton and what her message will be. first straight to cnn's adrienne broaddus who joins us from east lancing, michigan. what more do we know about the three students who were killed, adrienne? >> reporter: erica, good morning
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to you. we're learning about arielle anderson whom her family afec shun nately called ari, her aunt said she was studying to become a doctor and her aunt says her laugh was gentle and she barely spoke above a whisper. also among the killed, two other students, alexandria verner and brian fraser. we've learned fraser was the president of his fraternity here on campus and verner was a star athlete in high school. their superintendent we heard from and their coach, both from when they were high school -- the superintendent and coach telling us they were special. among the survivors, we heard from a student who not only survived the shooting here on campus monday night, but she also survived the oxford high school shooting. listen in. >> i was flabbergasted to say the least. you know, after oxford, they said that this wasn't going to
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happen again, that we were going to be safe going back to school, and that's just not the case. the other night knives shock. i didn't think it was real, honestly. >> reporter: and that's the thing, we may never know why this happened. authorities telling cnn the shooter had no ties to michigan state university. the shooter's father michael mcrae, said in part, quote, ever since my wife died, my son began to change. he was getting more and more bitter, angry and bitter, so angry, evil angry, the father described it, saying his son began to let himself go. >> evil angry, indeed. thanks so much. from one mass shooting to another, sentencing under way for the man who shot and killed ten people at a grocery store in buffalo, new york. this just last may. you may remember it.
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19-year-old peyton gendren is expected to be sentenced to life without the possibility of parole. >> omar jimenez joining us with more. family members beginning to give the victim impact statements. what are we hearing so far? >> this is likely going to be a lengthy hearing, an emotional one at this stage of the legal proceedings. up to 17 victim impact statements are expected and we just got started. one just finished. the wife of aaron sultar, the security guard, who engaged the shooter when this happened back in may 2020 and also family of ruth witfield speaking right now who is a grandmother killed in this. look, these in regards to the state charges. he's been convicted on including ten first-degree murder charges and murder motivated or i should say domestic terrorism motivated by hate, the first time that charge has been used at the
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state level in new york since that became available. my colleague mark morales inside, said the mayor is sitting front row, the police chief is sitting front row. they want to send a message the city is united here in these proceedings. these are the state proceedings. at the federal level the death penalty still is on the table. merrick garland has yet to make a decision on that. even though the shooter pleaded not guilty to those charges, his attorneys indicated in december that if he were to plead guilty, they are asking for that death penalty to be taken off of the table as a potential consequence. we'll see if any decisions are made based on how these proceedings go today. obviously, that's another factor that could play out after this is over. >> absolutely. omar, appreciate it. thank you. with us now to discuss, dr. randy, an emergency physician and deputy dean at brown university school of public health. also the district attorney for westchester new york, former
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federal prosecutor. doctor, if i could begin with you, i think about the kids, right. certainly the kids who lost their lives and about the ones who survived, and particularly the ones who witnessed, experienced the shooting on the campus, but then have survived a high school shooting. how do students, parents, teachers handle the stress of this kind of thing? it's mind boggling. >> it is mind boggling. jim, i will tell you as an emergency room physician, i've seen firsthand so many times the effect of a bullet, not just on the body of the person who is shot, which is horrific enough, in and of itself, but on the witnesses, the family members, friends, community members, the first responders. there is secondary trauma for all of them. and to be honest, we don't have great solutions. what we have, instead, is this repetitive trauma our kids are
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growing up under, where they have increasing frequency of lockdown drills, increasing likelihood of personally knowing someone who has been shot. i will say as a parent, i try to protect my kids from seeing this stuff on social media, talk to them about coping and resilience skills, but it's time to step up as a country and think about the fact that we have a generation that is growing up traumatized who we've not done much for to help them cope and get through. >> a generation growing up that way and an increasing number of americans who feel they're just waiting to be around this next horrific event. you said that gun violence is the number one question or priority that you're asked about. what are those questions that are thrown your way? what do people want? >> i mean, people -- >> so what i hear, erica -- >> go ahead. >> sorry. no problem. >> what i hear over and over from people in the community and
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even on social media and even prosecutors and law enforcement, is how do we stop this? how do we make this end, or at least get better, because it feels like it's getting worse. it's easy to feel, because it seems like this is just a relentless, endless cyclical of mass shooting, i'm parent as well as a prosecutor and many of your listeners are as well, and it's terrifying. the other night when i heard about the michigan campus, i said wow, are my kids going to school some day because i don't know if i want them on a campus. we can't think like that. we are making progress and there is a lot we can do. if we feel defeated we're going to give in and it's going to get worse. some of the things i talk about a lot, we're doing a lot of work here on, here in westchester county, but all over the state and other states as well, by the
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time something gets to me as a prosecutor for sentencing or prosecution, it's too late, right. we're going to help the victims as much as we can and seek justice for -- against a shooter for the victims, but what we want is prevention. so we need more laws at the federal level that close, for example, the gun show loophole. we need more closure on background collection. we need the assault weapon ban and the high-capacity magazine ban. we need to stem the flow of guns. at the local level we need to use important tools like red flag laws that allow us to get guns out of the hands of people who have signs that they might be using those guns for some harm to other people. >> it's such a good point because clearly there are multiple solutions, no single one seems to work here. red flag laws, goodness, this guy threw up a lot of red flags and still got a gun. i want to ask you about the health piece, some of this is
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gratuitous, because folks who don't want to talk about guns say it's a mental health issue, but mental health is part of this. this is a troubled person involved in this shooting. what specifically is our health care system not doing now and has to change to give help, address cases like this, before they get a gun and go dkill people? >> the first thing is just to recognize these risk factors. physicians, nurses, physician assistants, they get no training right now in medical school or other parts of health professional school about how to recognize risk for perpetrating gun violence against one's self. remember, approximately two-thirds of gun deaths in this country are gun suicide. or of perpetrating gun violence against someone else. much less, we are not giving tools for how to help. we know that there is a deficit of mental health providers in this country and if we recognize problems we lack the resources
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to refer a patient to and off in health care don't know about things like red flag laws. we don't feel comfortable counseling on safe storage. there's a roll for the health care system, but it has to be embedded into and have a larger cultural change about how do we recognize risk and what do we do afterwards? >> larger cultural change and a conversation that we will need to continue. sadly, since it's not resolved but also so important to keep that conversation going. dr. renny, amy rocha, thank you. >> thank you. moments from now, former south carolina governor nikki haley will formally announce she is jumping into the race for the white house. >> kylie atwood is in charleston, south carolina, as we prepare for this announcement. what do we expect from her speech today? >> reporter: yeah. we're looking for her to introduce herself to the american people for the first time as a presidential candidate. obviously, nikki haley is pretty
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well known in the state of south carolina, the two-time governor here, and she'll lean on that leadership experience when she speaks today talking about how she brought together the community, for example, after that awful shooting at the mother emanuel church blocks from here. the other thing nikki haley is going to do is talk about her own personal biography, hone in on the fact that she is the daughter of indian immigrants. she grew up here in south carolina and in her words in a video she released yesterday, saying she was running for president, said she wasn't black, she wasn't white, but she was different. one thing that she has said is that she doesn't believe that america is racist. she may lean into, you know, those culture wars that we have seen some other republicans who are running for president potentially lean into over the course of the last few months, but for her, this is her moment to introduce herself for the first time. one of the folks that we are expecting to see on stage today
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is cindy warmbier. she's not a well-known name to most americans, but she's the mother of otto warmbier, an american college student who traveled to north korea, and he was detained there. he died just days after returning to the united states. nikki haley, when she was ambassador to the united nations connected with cindy warmbier and cindy told me last night that she credits nikki haley for giving her the strength that she needed to go from survival mode to fighter mode. that is one of the anecdotes that we'll hear, and it really underscores a piece of nikki haley's story that she wants folks to know. she's not scared to stand up to bully, she will stand up to america's adversaries, she did that she was the ambassador to the united nations on the world stage. another person we'll be watching for, ralph norman, a member of congress from north carolina, first one to endorse nikki haley
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today. he's been an ally of former president trump, and he said in a statement today that he believes that america is better off after what trump accomplished, but he believes that there is time -- there's a need for change in the republican party and think that haley is the best pick. guys? >> kylie atwood, thanks so much. joining us republican strategist sara longwell and bureau chief for the globe jackie kucinich. sara, you hear from kylie atwood there that part of the message from nikki haley will be she stands up to bullies. she did work for former president trump when he bullied a heck of a lot of people and took a lot of positions privately you might hear she disagreed with but publicly did not stand up. i wonder, she seems to want it both ways, right. not quite alienate the trump base in the party she seeks the nomination, while trying to set out a singular path here. can she? >> i don't think so. this is where a lot of republican candidates are going
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to struggle where they don't want to take on president trump but don't want to alienate his voters. i think with nikki haley in particular, i do regular focus groups with gop voters, every week, and the way voters currently perceive his establishment, old highly trump politician. for some people in the party, swing voters concerned about the direction of the republican party, you know, they kind of like nikki haley. but for sort of your two-time trump voters, they want to look forward and want politicians who will fight culture wars and, you know, the kinds of things that have made nikki haley an attractive candidate in the past like her foreign policy experience, seems temperamentally moderate, those are not the things that base republican voters are looking for today. >> it's interesting, too, when we look at who the base republican voter is today and who she will need to win over,
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jackie, even if you look at a moment that was really regarded as a major win for her, politically and also personally, in the wake of that horrific massacre at the emanuel ame church, tht a few years later, she pulled back on part of that saying she didn't really recognize what the flag symbolizes, almost downplaying, right, the real pain that it symbolizes. how much more of that will she have to address and how much more of that do you think we'll see? >> we've seen her do that on a number of things, even former president trump. initially she came out against him, and then she dialed it back and said in an interview, i believe last year, she didn't think he was going to run again and that, you know, they could say that he let the republican party down, but now, you know, she doesn't want to talk against him again. there is this back and forth, and the voters are going to have
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to decide if that's enough for them. she's not alone. as sara said, there is a group of republicans that are going to try to have this lane, where they don't -- where they try to have it both ways, and for nikki haley, this is a continuation of what she's trying to do post her position at the u.n. >> sara longwell, she's the first to challenge trump, but clear she's not going to be the last. pence, tim scott, others considering races or close to announcing their own races here. what does that tell you about donald trump's hold on the party that so many folks, including folks who worked in his administration up to his vice president, willing to challenge him for the nomination? >> look, there's no doubt that donald trump is weaker than he's ever been. in these focus groups where i listen to two-time trump voters, a lot want to move on and talk actively about how they think donald trump can't win and has a real electability problem. the thing is, though, they're interested in people who are
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still like trump. one of the reasons that ron desantis pops up as the number one alternative is because they see him as trump without the baggage or trump but still electable. a lot of people like pompeo and pence and nikki haley and chris christie is the middle tier where there's not a huge appetite from voters because voters see them as backward looking. even though nikki haley's pitch in part is forward looking new generation, voters read them as establishment old style and don't want go back. they want somebody from the trump maga cinematic universe going forward and that's where you see donald trump and ron desantis being the ones that voters are gravitating to right now. >> jackie, when anyone launches a bid, they have a lot of people around them, right, who will encourage them, ultimately hearing enough people say this is a good idea, we think you have a shot. there's some questions this morning about whether she may have a shot, just based on early
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polling. could this, though, be perhaps less about her really going for the white house in 2024 and more of a long-term political play on her part, jackie? >> we'll have to see. it does seem like she really wants to be president if you read some of her previous interviews, but it is too soon to tell what her longevity will be. it will be very interesting to see how she -- sara mentions pompeo, pence, these people that worked for former president trump, that were in his administration as our boston globe wrote this week how they square how they worked for him and now running against him potentially for some of them at this point for the 2024 nomination. because that is, while they do try to make that loyalty pitch, it's not exactly the most loyal thing to challenge your former boss for the presidency. we'll see how she does that going forward.
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>> details, details. jackie. jackie and sara, good to see you both. thanks. still to come, burn after reading. that is what an attorney for gabby petito's family says brian wrote on a letter to her son. the attorney says the contents of that letter is disturbing. plus, ohio residents are wondering if their water and air are safe after the train carrying hazardous materials derailed this morning and went up in flames. we're going to hear firsthand about their fears in the wake of that toxic spill. and stunning images from turkey. earthquake survivors still being pulled from the rubble after a week and a half. details behind their harrowing stories of survival. that's coming up. what do you? these straps are mind-blowing! they collect hundreds of data points like hrv and rem sleep, so you know all you need for recovery. and you are? i'm an investor...in invesco qqq, a fund that gives me access to...
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a bizarre twist in the case of brian laundrie and gabby petito. an attorney wants a letter written to laundrie by his mother offering, it seems, to bury a body, help him get out of prison. he personally viewed the letter at an fbi regional office claiming it was in an envelope marked, quote, unquote, burn after reading. >> cnn correspondent jean casarez joining us with more. the pe tito family, what do they want to happen? >> they want the letter. this is a civil case for intentional infliction of emotional distress. they believe this is evidence that a jury could -- should see, because this case is proceeding to trial and it was yesterday they had the hearing and it was about discovery. you know, the flow of documents back and forth between the
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plaintiffs and the defendants. and then the plaintiff's attorney patrick riley stood up and said, your honor, we are aware of a letter that roberta laundrie wrote to her son brian laundrie, and it includes several things and i want to show you. here's what legal document that was filed after the hearing says. it says, quote, please produce a copy of a letter written by roberta laundrie to brian laundrie, which states, in part, that raboberta laundrie would bring a shovel to help bury a body and which letter was contained in an envelope which on said envelope said burn after reading. it also said in the letter that we heard from the plaintiff's attorney that letter included, will help you get out of prison, and the defense stood up and said your honor, in the hearing, its into relevance, it's very unfortunately worded but from months ago before they took the
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van life trip. the plaintiff's attorney representing the petito's said there is no date on this letter at all and it was found in the backpack when they found brian laundrie's body. it is relevant. a jury should hear it. let me tell you what this case is based on, erica. during the time that gabby was missing the petitos have alleged they called constantly the laundries. the two were engaged, right. they all knew each other. call after call after call, they never responded. they sent texts, text after text, they didn't respond. they blocked them on facebook. their attorney, they even had -- >> the laundries blocked the petitos. >> yes. the petitos' attorney sent a letter to the laundries, please, let us know anything you know about gabby. the petitos are saying in this case, we have no duty to say anything to anybody. that's our right. but intentional infliction of emotional distress, especially in florida, it's outrageous
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behavior. that is defined legally as beyond the realm of normal behavior. taking it to the limits. and this case, they've tried to get it dismissed, the laundrie, but it is proceeding to trial this summer. >> i heard you say earlier this morning this is not about the money for them. they really want some more of this information out there. >> i heard yesterday in the hearing the defense said the laundries have no money, and i believe that this is -- they're into principles, the petitos really are focused on the principles of all of this. >> it is something we'll see if that letter is ultimately produced. appreciate it. joining us to discuss civil rights attorney areva martin. when we look at this, full disclosure, jean and i were chatting before the break here because i had so many questions for her, the fact that family is saying that this has nothing to do with this, nothing to see here, it's found in his backpack, if it's not related to what happened to gabby petito, doesn't that raise separate questions that perhaps need an answer about why this type of letter would be written in the
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first place? >> yes, erica. this letter raises so many questions and i think the judge's decision was absolutely correct, this letter is absolutely relevant and it should be produced in discovery because discovery is a process where lots of information gets exchanged between the parties, even information that a judge may deem is not admissible in an actual trial. it doesn't mean it's not admissible at this stage, which is the recoverdiscovery stage, s letter showing details that this family knew that their son brian had killed gabby petito, they knew it and they were refusing to share that information with law enforcement, obviously, and refusing to share that information with gabby's family. i think if jurors knew that, that that could be very impactful in terms of the petitos against the laundries. >> is this purely civil exposure for them? is there potential criminal
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exposure? >> this is point this is just a civil case. there was a wrongful death case also filed by the petito family. apparently a $3 million settlement was reached in that wrongful death case, and this is a separate case, as jean said, strictly about intentional infliction of emotional distress. the petito family was begging to get information about the whereabouts of their daughter, her health status, whether she was alive or not, and the laundrie family refused to provide any information, refused to answer phone calls, and now if this letter is accurate and appears to be because it was found by the fbi in brian laundrie's backpack, this confirms this family knew that gabby petito, something horrible had happened to her, perhaps she had been murdered by their son and they would not come forward with that information. a jury would not take kindly to knowing that information. >> to jim's point if some of this does come out in this civil case, could it lead to other criminal charges? >> you know, that's a great question. the question becomes, you know,
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some kind of obstruction, perhaps, charge against the laundries, that they knew information, perhaps, that their son had killed someone and they didn't come forward and didn't participate. we don't know what the interaction was during this time between law enforcement and the laundries. clearly if law enforcement was asking that family if they had information about gabby petito and they lied, if they, you know, lied to law enforcement, then, of course there could be serious implications and perhaps charges against at least the mother who apparently wrote this letter. >> goodness. shocking developments. areva martin, thanks so much. >> thank you, jim, thanks erica. this coming in to cnn, dramatic moments in court. this is at the sentencing hearing for the gunman at the buffalo tops supermarket. one of the vick's family members lunging at the shooter. stay with us on the other side of the break. we'll tell you more about what happened in those moments.
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this just in to cnn. dramatic moments ago, just moments ago, in a buffalo, new york, courtroom where the man who shot and killed ten people at a grocery store in buffalo is facing sentencing. barbara massey, the sister of one of the victim's was speaking when all this unfolded. have a look.
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>> my sister was a great person. katherine didn't hurt anybody. you don't come to our city and decide you don't like black people. you don't know a thing about black people. we're human. we like our kids to go to good schools. we love our kids. we never go in no neighbors and take people out. don't do it. >> cnn correspondent omar jimenez back with us. the hearing just resuming now, but as we see that unfold do we know who this man was? >> we don't at this point, but obviously the audience was filled with a lot of people directly related either friends or otherwise with the people that were killed payton gendron who has been convicted of that at this point. we knew it was going to be emotional and there was going to
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be up to 17 people who were going to speak. this is a tragedy that has shaken not just buffalo but places across the world to its core, but especially in buffalo. but to see this level of anger was something i think you could see the surprise on a lot of people's faces when this happened. obviously, right before that, the victim impact statement was being given by barbara massey was already emotional. she wasn't speaking into the mic. she was turned and speaking directly at payton gendron. she wanted him to understand what he had done to this community to these people, to these loved ones for everyone that was sitting inside of there. another thing was that now the hearing is back on track. we should say. the judge trying to get things back under control. did acknowledge that we this is emotional and we know this may be difficult for people to hear, but please leave the courtroom if you feel like you can't control that. also saying that we are better than this as far as acting on some of those aggressive
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emotions, perhaps. obviously, it's indicative of what we are dealing with in the sentencing hearing and those moments are among the most dramatic i think i've seen in recent memory. >> i'm amazed it doesn't happen more often. i can only imagine the anger and hurt of the people involved there. thanks for bringing that to us. >> absolutely. continuing as we update you on the situation in turkey and syria, remarkably people still being pulled alive from the rubble nine days after that devastating earthquake and series of aftershocks. we'll bring you more of these miraculous stories of survival just ahead. this week is your chance to try any - subway footlong for free. like the subway series menu. just buy any footlong in the app, and get one free. free monsters, free bosses, any footlong for free! this guy loves a great offer. let's see some hustle!
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. it's been nearly ten days now since the catastrophic 7.8 magnitude earthquake hit turkey and syria and we are still seeing incredible stories of survival. so far more than 41,000 people have been confirmed dead. that quake, of course, reducing cities to piles of rubble and debris. >> toppling like houses of cards and there are people under all that rubble. rescuers, though, have not given up. more than a week and a half after the quake, they are still somehow finding survivors. among them, this woman, 77 years old, discovered after 212 hours under the rubble. it's almost ten days. turkish media reported a short time ago a woman and two children were rescued after 228 hours. cnn's sara sidner has more on
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these remarkable accounts of survival. >> reporter: firefighters scan the debris in hatta for signs of life. they ask him if there's anyone else with him and about his condition. it's okay, the 65-year-old syrian man tells them. it was the 208th hour, the ninth day, since the powerful earthquakes hit turkey and syria. since hours later, 77-year-old fatma is pulled from under the rubble. as the death toll climbs at terrifying speeds, these are rare rescues and they've become the only source of hope. this has largely turned into a recovery operation. focus is shifting towards sheltering tens of thousands of people made homeless by the disaster and burying tens of
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thousands of others. families don't want to leave the site of their collapsed homes, hoping and praying to find loved ones. clinging to news of miracles. brother 17-year-old mohammad and his 21-year-old brother abdel were pulled from under a collapsed eight-story building on the 198th hour. they stayed a alive by eating protein powder. rescuers tunnelled through the debris to pull out 18-year-old mohammad. this is well beyond the critical first 72 hours when most rescues happen. now, many calls for silence to hear the faint voices of trapped vivers are met with -- trapped survive ares are met with
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deafening silence. until -- another miracle happens. this 7 month old baby was pulled from the rubble after 139 hours. after 167 hours under the suffocating debris, this man managed to pull himself out. joyous moments keep up the spirits of exhausted rescuers. these brothers were pulled one after the other in hattay with little or no water under entangled concrete and steel. many will face a long recovery. ferriss and fatma were pulled out on the 209th hour. their five children are believed to still be trapped underneath. the bitter realization that some people are the only surviving members of an extended family.
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but that does not stop the celebrations or the hope for yet another miracle. sara sidner, cnn, turkey. well, small glimpse of hope amidst so much suffering. still to come, a rise in retail bankruptcies. what is sparking that wave? we're going to discuss. where two pairs and a free, quality eye exam start at just $79.95. book an exam today at americasbest.com. ♪
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half as much after a decline in retail sales in december largely blamed on inflation. >> we see that increase in spending as bankruptcies in the retail sector are starting to pile up. business reporter a nathaniel meyerson with us. the latest tuesday morning, a discount chain and it's the second time they've filed? >> right. so despite the strong retail numbers today, the retail apocalypse is starting to creep back. it tuesday morning, a discount home furnishing chain, filed for bankruptcy. the latest to file, joins a growing number of companies, party city, they filed for bankruptcy recently, serta bedding, one of the largest bedding manufacturers in the country and a large independent pet store chain. this is a reversal of what we've seen from the last couple years from the retail sector when consumer spending was strong and they would be buying clothes and furniture, squeezed by inflation. they pulled back some of their
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discretionary spending an that's hurting the vulnerable retailers. bed, bath, and beyond on bankruptcy watch. they're closing 400 stores and people are expecting they could file for bankruptcy this year. >> when the stores close it's, obviously, a lot of empty space. what happens to all that empty retail space? >> so the last couple years we've seen all of these store closures and these zombie type of malls and that's going to create more challenges for stores moving in. this year about 2800 stores are expected to close, an 8% increase from a year ago. there are retailers expanding. tj maxx could move into some of the stores, but landlords and malls have to get creative. we could see office buildings or apartment buildings move in, doctors offices. those have been popular. we could see amazon warehouses start to replace those empty malls. >> thanks so much. well, we were wondering it's
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not us by the way, but we know who won the record breaking $2 billion powerball prize drawn about three months ago. >> the long-awaited mystery is now over. the name of the person who is the only player to match all six numbers of the historic powerball drawing last november is -- edwin castro. >> so edwin castro did not appear at that news conference. he opted for the lump sum payment of $997.6 million. he wants everyone to know he doesn't think he's the real winner. in a statement castro said as much as i'm shocked and exstatic to have won the powerball drawing the real winner is the california school system. california public schools will get $156 million. also not a bad payout. but here we are. still playing. >> that's right. that money comes -- that comes
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from the lottery commission, not from castro. >> that's my understanding. i'm sure if he wanted to donate more money to the schools they would take it. >> billion dollars. >> yeah. not so bad. but we can't win if we don't play. better get on that. thanks so much for joining us today. i'm erica hill. >> i'm jim sciutto. jake tapper continues our coverage right after a quick break. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ (children giggling) hey, i was, uh, thinking about going back to school to get my masters. i just saw something that said
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