♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ hello, everyone. welcome to "cnn newsroom." >> we begin with the faces of tragedy from monday night's shooting at michigan state

university. ariel anderson was the youngest of three siblings. she was working diligently to graduate early and wanted to be a surge. ryan frazier was a sophomore. he was also president of his fraternity's msu chapter . a vigil was held at his hometown church last night. >> he was a faithful young man. he received the sacraments here and he received his faith from this community. >> and alexander verner was a junior. the state news said she was a multisport athlete majoring in biology. >> all lives lost way too soon. five other students are in the hospital currently fighting for their lives. a student has shared new video that shows the chaotic moments when he and his peers hid in a classroom. the lights turned off and you hear the students arguing over whether or not to unlock the door after they hear a loud knock. >> students outside? >> hey, hey!

[ bleep ]. >> there's a bunch of -- >> adrian is live in east lansing. what's happening there today, adrian? >> reporter: victor, today has been quiet. we have seen students and members of the community showing up here at the statue. they've prayed here. they've comforted each other. we've also seen some tears. investigators are also allowing students who had to leave their belongings behind at berky hall and the ms union to head back to rest retrieve those items. in about four hours at the statue, there will be a vigil to remember the victims you mentioned. the three who were killed on monday night as well as the five who are still in critical condition who were physically injured. meanwhile, we are learning a little more about that 43-year-old shooter. police said a note was discovered in the shooter's

pocket. threatening to target two other schools in new jersey. investigators say the 43-year-old shooter had ties to new jersey, but a lot of folks are wondering why he started shooting here on the campus of msu. that is still unclear and it's something quite frankly we may never know. the motive. members of law enforcement are expected to update the media tomorrow. victor? >> adrian, just an example of the reality we live in here in this country. it is literally the second mass shooting for some of the survivors. just hard to comprehend. >> reporter: yeah, you're talking about ava anderson and some of her classmates. she was a senior when the oxford school shooting happened 14 months ago. she said she never thought another school shooting would happen again to her. >> i was flabbergasted to say

the least. you know, after oxford, they said that this wasn't going to happen again. that we were going to be safe going back to school and that's just not the case. it was like traumatizing all over again. i'm still a little like shaken up by it. i, at the time, we didn't know any information. i didn't know where the shooter was. i thought i was in like imminent danger. >> reporter: terrifying moments not once but twice. ava and some of her classmates have lived through. meanwhile, behind me, you see sparty standing strong. a symbol of strength. >> this hits home for you. an alumnus yourself. thank you so much. we're now joined by an ieducato who knew one of the victims. billy is a former principal of

the high school that verner attended. i know you met alex when she played as a kind gaergartner ine youth basketball program you founded. and you had the privilege of watching her grow up. tell us about her? >> first of all, on behalf of the family and community -- we appreciate the opportunity today to talk about al and in 2008, 2009, to have the honor of meeting a young lady who would grow into what your daughter, your sister, any of your friends to be. what an honor for me. what an honor for us. and the impact she's had on each individual. myself included. in our community. the trojan community, clausen michigan community and the michigan state university community. an amazing young lady who will be remembered for a plethora of

high character and integrity-based paths that she was walking every single day. >> i imagine that as a former principal and now superintendent, you know maybe a few students who attend michigan state university. so when you first heard that there was a shooting at the school, i mean, what went through your mind? what were you feeling? >> well certainly we track those things. unfortunately in the world we live in now as educators, we start to track them. i was following every step of the way. we have a number of our students from our district now at clausen, my previous district, northville. that attend. immediately start to race through it. you connect with people on text. students. current students, former students, families, parents, and start to wonder what that experience is all about for them and are they safe. i was fortunate last night at our vigil to connect and hug and

thank so many of our clausen trojans and now spartys who we saw honoring al and give their story about where they were on monday night. and their experience that we were all going through from afar. we were blessed to see them yesterday and able to hug all of them, tell them how much we care about them and how great it was to see them after such a traumatic evening on the campus. >> as superintendent, i know you wrote a letter to the families of the 1300 students who are in your district. how do you put to words what has happened to the community? what did you say? >> it's impossible. i needed help. i had great people around us that helped me put that together. you know, but there are standard letters and formats that you get and templates they ask you to

use. and you use them, but we love al verner, class of 2020. clausen trojan. it was important for me to personalize it so people could feel it. understand her. know her. honor her. template aside. standard form letter aside. not the narrative of the coward that took her life, but the narrative of her as a human being and i wanted our community for those who knew her and didn't, to feel that. the family asked me, and i was honored to say yes, to speak on their behalf. honored and humbled and will forever be. i asked them how they wanted me to communicate to you all. they said and i quote, speak from the heart. because i have that relationship with them, that's what i'm doing. and that's what's important for al, for everyone to understand

who she was and the 20 years she lived walking that path of incredible, modest humility and integrity and kindness, which we all need to take a chapter out of al's book. >> billy, thank you for your time. you did her pretty well today by sharing some thoughts and memories of alex verner. thank you for the work you're doing and i know it's not easy. we heard from anna, who was a student at oxford, they told us we would be safe. and now they're going through it again. i just wonder what superintendents, principals, tell students now. billy, thank you so much. >> they're lucky to have you. thank you. >> thank you. thank you so much. >> thank you. that was really moving. well, the race to be the republican nominee for president is no longer a one-man show. >> i will simply say this. may the best woman win.

>> former u.n. ambassador nikki haley announcing she is officially taking on her former boss, donald trump, for the white house. >> she called for a new generation of leadership at a kickoff event in charleston, south carolina. where she served as governor for two terms. kylie, tell us more about what her opening message is to her party. >> reporter: yeah, well she said she believes that she's ready, the party is ready to move on from the stale ideas and faded names of the republican party's past. making a clear pitch that she is the future of the republican party. when we talk about the generational pitch that she is ma making here, it's important to note she's 51 years old. former president trump and biden are older than 75 years old. and she called for a competency test for those over 75. that would include both

politicians. when she was talking to the folks here in the room today, hundreds of supporters here, she was critical of the republican party in the past. >> i have a particular message for my fellow republicans. we lost the popular vote in seven of the last eight presidential elections. our cause is right but we have failed to win the confidence of a majority of americans. well that ends today. if you're tired of losing, put your trust in a new generation and if you want to win, not just as a party, but as a country, stand with me. >> reporter: this was also nikki haley's opportunity to introduce herself to the american people for the first time as a presidential candidate. calling herself a proud daughter of indian immigrants. talking about growing up in a

small town in south carolina where they were the only indian family in town. she laid out her vision for the future of america, saying that it should be a strong future not, in her words, woke and weak. and laying out specific ideas that are really popular with the republican base. secure borders, increased police in the communities, making sure that politicians can't prevent children from going to school and making sure that americans are hired over illegal immigrants. so really something there for everyone as she is making the case that she is the best candidate to attract the majority of republican voters. >> kylie in charleston. thank you very much. let's bring in former arkansas governor hutchison. he is considering a run for president himself and joins us from, of all places, des moines, iowa. governor, good to see you. let's start with governor haley.

strong candidate? >> absolutely. delighted she made the announcement today. there will be other candidates that will be in the race, but certainly points up that the party needs new leadership. in terms of the biden administration, but also within the party as she pointed out and as i pointed out that we can't go back to the trump leadership we need new leadership for the future so it's a share, that sh has presented today. now it's a test as to who's message and who's ideas and solutions america responds to. whether it's iowa or new hampshire. or south carolina. it's a test of who's leadership and message resonates and also can bring our country and put our country in the right and best direction. >> governor, she didn't just say there needs to be new

leadership. she hit a central generational theme. here's some of the highlights. >> we're ready, ready to move past the stale ideas and faded names of the past. america is not past our prime. it's just that our politicians are past theirs. we won't win the fight for the 21st secentury if we keep trustg politicians from the 20th century. >> 20th century politicians. also talked about faded names. she's making an argument that you need a new generation. you would be 73 on inauguration day. what's your response to that element of her pitch? >> well, the key is you know, what leadership is going to generate support among the next generation of americans? and to me, it's bringing in the independents. it is bringing in the suburban voters. and bringing in the young

people. i remember ronald reagan, who inspired a new generation of conservative leaders and so to me, the test is who inspires. who can bring our country in the right direction and who can appeal to that new generation of voters. that's the test to me. and so let's wait and see. i'm delighted that we're going to have a number of candidates in there that's representing new history. you know, i've just finished my time as governor of eight years. i've served in the bush administration. i think that's a history and of course, nikki brings her own long history of service together as well. >> let me ask you one more here before we talk about your visit to iowa. she says the america she envisions has a mandatory mental competency test for politicians over 75 years old. you support that? >> well, i don't think the

constitution supports that. the constitution sets the requirements for office, but you know, whenever you go out and meet the voters, you're having a mental test every day. so the mental acuity is something that the voters are very effective at analyzing, but let's stick to the constitution and what the constitution requires. >> all right. you're in des moines. obviously the first contest for republicans in the primaries. you said that, this was last year, you'd wait until after the midterms. we're 100 days beyond the midterm election now. you want a decision about the 2024 candidacy? >> i am delighted to be here in iowa. in des moines. i'll be going to council bluffs later today and meeting iowans and people across the country, but today, iowa is very important because their help shaped the message for our

future and determine the strength of anyone's potential candidacy. so glad to be here. no announcement today. but the timetable i think in the next couple of months, you're going to have multiple candidates in there. i don't think it will be as large a field at 2016, but that's what america's about. that democracy is about and iowa's about that's going to shrink that field, but we're going to start off with a broad number of messages that will give alternatives for new leadership direction for our country. >> i've got just a couple of seconds left. do you have a hard date by which you believe you have to make this decision? >> i don't think there's a hard date there. obviously when you get into april, you're getting closer to the first debates, so you know, that's artificially a time frame that i'm looking at, but the key thing is, i mean i'm here in iowa. i'm articulating a consistent conservative message. that's what's important right now. >> all right, former arkansas

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and this is important because if in fact it is proven or shown or intelligence suggests that this path towards the continental united states from china where it was originally launched was in fact unintentional, this would go a pretty long way in easing tensions between the u.s. and china. but just to take you back a minute, the u.s. did track this balloon from the moment that it took off from china. originally based on the flight path that it kind of settled in, the u.s. believed it was going to travel eastward goover guam t instead, it took a pretty dramatic northern turn and went up to alaska, towards canada then towards montana where it did settle over yet another military installation there. the u.s. officials we speak to now saying that there is a possibility that the weather patterns and strong winds, particularly over alaska and canada, did in fact cause that balloon to divert south.

and that it was possibly not intentional. now it is important to note that this balloon can still maneuver but it's very limited. so the fact that it did loiter over the sensitive sites in montana is proof to the united states that the chinese did want at least to take advantage of its position there and continue to gather intelligence, but ultimately, this is the intention behind the balloon and its path is going to be really critical in determining of the course whether the u.s. and china can get past this really dramatic diplomatic period of tension. >> china was saying it was a weather balloon, but we still know this was a surveillance balloon, right? >> right, and u.s. officials have not changed their mind. the question is whether it intentionally violated u.s. air space and sovereignty. >> thank you so much. as pressure mounts on the president to share more

information on the spy balloon and three other objects the u.s. military shot down this month, we're learning he may deliver remarks this week. and in moments from now, senators are expected to receive -- bob mendez. as you're about to enter this hearing, what are the most pressing questions you have about the balloon? >> this is about timing capabilities in terms of its military platform. and what are the differences in capabilities between their military capabilities, that of the united states? what is the potential to performance of the people's liberation army and a whole host of those items. so it proceeded the elements. at the briefing that was balloon specific, i would say look,

there's no question that that was a surveillance balloon and we are still assessing what its capabilities were. it was not a weather balloon. whether or not it was purposeful or was deviated by wind patterns is something the chinese are still responsible for once they send that balloon into space and ultimately even going over guam, it's about sensitive information of the united states defense capabilities. so they are doing this, they're doing this to latin america at different sites. so the chinese are actually engaging in using these spy balloons over sovereign countries and it has to be called out for that and there should be consequences. >> so that doesn't lower your level of concern if in fact this balloon deviated off course because as you noted, it was still intended to surveil u.s. military bases in the pacific. >> yes.

i don't think we should let them off the hook because maybe, and we're not there yet in terms of an exact intelligence decision, that it got blown off course, so to speak. that shouldn't deminimize the reality that they were still intending to surveil. still intending to spy upon a u.s. military assets. guam's a territory of the united states and therefore i consider it the same as if you were flying over the continental united states. >> u.s. officials stress that they have confidence that they were able to jam any sort of information that this balloon may have been able to transmit back to china. do you have confidence in that? >> we're going to continue to ask tough questions as we have at these classified hearings. i would simply say i think they worked to minimize any potential signatures that our sensitive sites had that could have been picked up by this balloon. but there's obviously a reason the chinese use it. you can get information from

satellites which are way out in outer space, but the ability of a balloon is to hang lower, stay longer and ultimately capture incredible information. i think we succeeded largely in avoiding that, but that doesn't leave the chinese off the hook. >> your republican colleague, senator josh hawley, says that the u.s. in response to this should be tougher on china and perhaps introduce new sanctions. would you support that, merit new sanctions against china? >> i think we have to have a tougher policy overall as it relates to china. china's our biggest geostrategic challenge, both now and in the future. when i held a hearing at the foreign relations committee on fe fentanyl and the number of deaths in america, they're doing nothing in that regard. a million uighurs in concentration camps in the 21st century and so much more. so i think we should be taking

on china in a much more robust way than we are right now. >> it camomes as relations are an all-time low. they're not returning calls from their u.s. counterparts. the secretary of state in response to the balloon postponed a meeting with president xi and it is reported that he may be meeting with his counterpart. would you support that? >> look, i think having open lines of communication, especially so that we deconflict any potential risk of conflict that is unintended is incredibly important and it is alarming to hear our defense establishment say that in fact they've picked up the phone and call and there was no answer at the other end. that cannot be between two nations. especially nations that may be on potential collision courses at some point in time in the future. so we want to avoid that.

so in order to do that, you have to have somebody to talk to and that in respect on the sidelines of munich security conference, i think it makes sense to at least establish those lines of communication to deconflict and avoid such conflict. >> lastly, do you think the president should address the public about this balloon later this week? >> look, i think when we know more about the other elements that were taken down, which appear to be different in context but raise questions about even if they're private and for commercial purposes, but they're in air space that may have hurt civilian aircraft, we have to have a regime that actually says you can't send things up without some type of identifying signal, responder. without some type of flight plan because ultimately, we're putting commercial flights at risk. so i think at some point when it's all, you know, sorted out, it may be an appropriate time for the president, but i'm not

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florida congressman matt gaetz will not face charges. officials are looking into whether he paid for sex or had a relationship with a 17-year-old girl. >> paula, what more are you learning? >> prosecutors were looking at whether the congressman, as you just noted, had sex with an underaged girl, engaged in trafging, but as we reported in the fall, the people who worked on this case had recommended to leadership at the justice department not to proceed with a case. there were concerns that they were issues with some of the key witnesses here including the congressman's long time friend and wing man, joel greenberg, who's currently in a federal prison after pleading guilty to several felonies. there were other witnesses they were concerned about credibility problems or were reluctant to cooperate. there was concern that many of the key people in these events

were intoxicated with drugs or alcohol during key moments in the timeline. so there are concerns they may not be able to prove these charges beyond a reasonable doubt. there is also a reluctance at the justice department to pursue an obstruction case without the underlying crime. so based on all these concerns, the leadership of the justice department heeded this recommendation and decided not the proceed with any charges here. >> so paula, there are also developments in the investigation into former president trump. his alleged mishandling of classified documents. federal prosecutors are trying to force one of his attorneys to provide some additional grand jury testimony. tell us about it. >> that's exactly right. this is one of the most aggressive steps we've seen from special counsel, jack smith. there have been three attorneys representing president trump who have gone before the special counsel grand jury and one of them when he went in, he was asked about events leading up to

the eventual search of the home and he invoked the attorney client privilege. but now prosecutors are trying to convince the court to apply one of the few exceptions so he can answer some of these questions and they are telling the court in writing that they believe that the former president may have engaged in criminal activity with the help of his lawyer or his lawyer's advice. so they were asking the court to apply that exception so they can go back and get more information from this attorney. >> thank you so much. let's continue the conversation with former u.s. attorney, harry l litman. good to have you. let's start with this exception, the crime fraud exception to attorney client privilege. explain what it is and how rare it is for an application to invoke it. >> it's not completely rare, but it's fairly rare and of course this is trump so it shows treating him like any other

defendant. the big point though is it's trump's words they want. cork ran fills out that form that said we did a diligent search, turns to the christina bob and said sign right here, which she does with a little notation. they bring him into the grand jury and because it has to be attorney client communications, they ask him, his client here is trump, did you and trump talk about this? what did trump tell you? attorney client communication. okay, fine. see you in court. so what they're saying is we believe that we need trump's statements because those will be, we have thresholds showing good enough, not criminal, that what he said is evidence of a crime. what would the crime be? obstruction of justice by not complying with this subpoena. so the big point here it's trump's words they want and smith is treating him like any

other defendant. >> what does that tell you about where smith is taking this case right now? >> well, it tells for one that he's pretty close as we'd thought before. this is the mar-a-lago case. pretty far along the line there, but it tells me he's really zeroing in on trump. he wants trump's words as evidence of a crime. that means he's seriously considering charging trump. maybe others as well, but definitely trump is in the cross hairs. >> so if a judge decides to allow this exception, does trump have any legal recourse? >> no. i mean, you could try to appeal it. but that would be unusual and assuming it stands, what happens next is he's called back to the grand jury. what did trump tell you? now he has to fess up. we won't hear it necessarily. this grand jury proceeding, but that will be a big part of the case that smith is building. we'll know if he wins the

motion. we just won't know exactly what he says until he reveals it. >> thank you. we're taking you now to president biden who is speaking in maryland on the economy. >> the frederic douglas tunnel. instead of going through at 30, they'll go through it at 110 miles an hour. we're going to continue to invest in rail and make it ease year for people to use it because that's the potential to take thousands of vehicles off the highways and reduce pollution. and that's a fact. look, because i've been pushing this for now 25 years. if a first thing you get from point a to point b, faster on rail than in their car, they take rail. simple as that. we're also making high speed internet available across the country. we're already provided affordable access, affordable

high speed internet. we've already made it available to 175,000 homes in maryland that didn't have it before and we're just getting started. because of all of you in this room, you're going to install 500,000 electric charging stations across america. you, the ibw. put to work tens of thousands of ibw workers making a good, decent wage. the one thing i want to say for just a second here. it's really important, make it clear, people think the average person out there thinks i want to be ibw worker and you go to work. got to go back to school. you got to college. got four years. four years or more of apprenticeships and by the way, it's harder to get into the ibw here in this union right now than it is to go to harvard

university to get in. in terms of the number of people applying and accepted. one of the reasons why, one of the reasons why i've been so pro union my whole life, you're the best workers in the world. that's not a joke. we are. that's a fact. that is a fact. i spoke at the business round table, major companies in america. i said there's a reason they asked why i was so pro union. i said because they save you a lot of money. no, seriously. you pay more to get the work done. but the work gets done right. work gets done by the best people in the country. i really mean that. with all due respect i say to leadership, we've got to talk more about that. because the average person out there doesn't realize how hard it is to get to the place where you become a full blown union member. they don't understand.

i think you show up and want a job, ibw or labor or whatever it is and all of a sudden, you're there. this is going to have a major impact on the environment, what we're doing. specifically reducing carbon in the air as we begin to move these 500,000 charging stations around the world. around the country. and it's going to take millions of barrels of oil off the road. each of these charging stations is like rebuilding a gas station. with food and services. look, you know, been my grandfather biden, he went to work for a guy who was building gas stations, american oil company. back in early 1900s. and that's how we got to scranton. he started off in baltimore then went to new york and wilmington because people said wait a minute, i'm not sure we want to put those thousand gallon drums

on the ground here in my neighborhood. but every gas station that got built, what happens. all of a sudden, you have a fast food store nearby. you build the community. what we're going with these charging stations is same thing my grand pop did. i'm not joking. think about it. you're building communities, little tiny communities. it builds the region and takes care of things. this is incredible. it's good for the growth as well. like i said, any charging station installed in the united states of america guess what. it's going to have to be made in america. all these properties mean good paying jobs for electricians, pipe fitters, laborers, carpenters, iron workers and so much more. these are good jobs you can raise a family on and most don't need a college degree, but you have the equivalent with all

that work you have to do to become a member. jobs where people don't have to leave home in search of opportunity. you've earned it. put in at least four years of trained apprenticeships which is one of the reasons why the united states has the best trained workers in the world. you know, as i said, this is a blue collar blueprint where you build you. we're not just. for every project we have, every project we're installing, it's going to buy america. there's a law passed in 1933. most presidents, democrats and republicans didn't pay much attention to it. it said if the president is spending taxpayers' dollars hiring somebody to do something, whether putting a deck on aircraft carrier or on a public building, every federal project is supposed to be built by american workers. every one. using american products, creating american jobs. well, guess what.

i announced new standards require all construction material used in federal infrastructure project be material made in america. made in america. >> we've been listening to the president deliver remarks in maryland. just overall talking about this administration's investment in green energy. in bringing jobs back to the united states. made in america. >> speaking of economic message there, the president several times has talked abilout these 500,000 charging stations. let's bring in cnn's chief congressional correspondent, manu raju. you've got some important economic news, a date, as it relates to the debt ceiling fight. >> that's right and the possibility of a debt default. the first ever in u.s. history if the debt ceiling is not raised. this is a new estimate by the

congressional budget office saying if the dreeling is not raised by the summer, there could be a default in july as late as september. that's the estimate right now. july through september. that's the new time frame they are now looking at. that could potentially slip depending on when, how the u.s. fiscal outlook looks after-tax season as well as any other major expenses come from the federal government that changes its projections, but that is the key moment here. right now, there is no agreement between how house republicans and the white house will move on this going forward. joe biden and senate democrats have made clear they want the debt ceiling raised without any conditions whatsoever. they have told the speaker that just to simply be done on a kl clean basis. no conditions. that is unacceptable to mccarthy and the house republicans. even the most moderate republicans are in line with mccarthy's strategy, which is to negotiate with the white house. to add an arare of spending

cuts. they have not yet detailed what cuts they want. they are talking to their own members to come up with a plan to lay out exactly what level of spending cuts they want, but they want far more than the white house on this issue so they'll have to figure out some sort of resolution here over the next several weeks to get a deal between the house republicans and the white house. something that could get 60 votes in the senate. otherwise facing the prospects of the first set of defaults as soon as july. >> the date may be extended. we want to go to phil. so the administration's not budging. they want a clean debt ceiling bill and this is coming at a time when the president is announcing a new top economic adviser. >> that's right. lael brainard coming over to run the council from the federal reserve. coming straight into a hot moment when it comes to what needs to get done, what needs to be negotiated and resolved over the course of the next couple of

months. officials are keenly aware of the dynamics here. the president nominating jared bernstein to run the council. one of his closest and longest serving economic advisers going back to his vice presidential days. the team is very aligned in the sense as you heard manu kind of detail there, they kind of understand the dynamics. when you talk to them, they don't a, believe their bluffing and b, that they have political high ground here. the president's speech is a good example of that. you'll see as he hits these remarks, not unlike what he did at the state of the union address are very clear accomplishments, signs of progress in their first two years. they'll detail why they believe republican proposals will undercut that. that's through through the lens of trying to draw the contrasts

between the two. they're reshuffling the economic team to some degree. one thing is consistent, the president, whose message isn't much different than it's been in the last two years and is really driving the idea from democrats both here and on the other side of pennsylvania avenue. they don't feel like politically or policy-wise they need to negotiate on this. >> a few more months potentially until default. phil mattingly, manu raju, thank you. there are new concerns over the ohio train derailment after hundreds of dead fish have sur surfaced. what we'rere learning, just ahe. (avo) in three seconds, this couple will share a perfect moment.

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