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good evening. we begin tonight with a single frame of video from the war in ukraine. the stunning reality and brutality of this war. this is the image. what you are looking at is the precise split second before a russian missile explodes next to a team of aid workers, including an american tending to a wounded civilian earlier this month. it may be hard to see, but we've circled it. the missile is circled as flying parallel to the ground. it's an antitank missile, which means that someone had eyes on the target, which is the vehicle driven by the aid workers to the left of where the missile's about to go. the vehicle they are standing right next to. one of the men killed is pete reed, a marine corps veteran. in january, he went to work in ukraine with the aid organization global average.
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global outreach doctors, it's called. and on the second this month, he was killed. tonight, we also have stunning information about a systematic program run by the russian government to take ukrainian children and re-educate and indoctrinate them in russia in. some of the kids are believed to have been given weapons training, and others have been sent to live with foster families or even put up for adoption in russia. there's a new report documenting a network of camps, 43 of them in all, across the and occupied korea, where thousands of ukrainian children had so far been taken against international law. so there's a lot to do tonight. we can with the story behind the missile attack on the aid workers and we warn you, some of the video you'll see is hard to watch. cnn's matthew chanced of the reporting. what more can you tell us about this attack? >> reporter: an absolutely terrible attack, of course, and colleagues of pete reed are saying that they believe he was the victim of a targeted strike by russian forces using a laser guided antitank missile. the thing about, the important thing about those kinds of weapons as they require line of sight, anderson.
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so they're very deliberate indeed. well, cnn has now obtained exclusive video of the actual moment that took, took place on february the second, a short time ago, and again, colleagues of pete reed saying it underlines and illustrates the despicable tactics, as they called it, being used by russia against medics in the war zone. these are the final seconds before volunteer medics in ukraine, including american pete reed, seen here, exiting the white van, come under vicious attack. the images obtained exclusively by cnn show the explosion ripping through the scene, leaving reed among the dead. incredibly, you can also hear the screams of survivors. survivors like a volunteer from estonia, witnessing all of this
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from just feet away. >> yeah, the last one second that i remember before the blast , or when the blast happened, i saw the big ball of flame, and it was, like, instantly, i, my thoughts were the darkest that can be. >> reporter: volunteer medics working in bakhmut are no strangers to the extreme violence ravaging the city. this fighting for control, making it one of ukraine's deadliest front lines. soldiers dubbing it the meat grinder. but the part of town where the medics were answering their emergency call on february the second seemed relatively calm. >> so when you arrived at the scene where you'd had these reports of casualties, and you
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saw the casualties there, was there any fighting going on? was there any artillery shells coming in close by that you would've, made you aware that this was a particularly dangerous spot? >> no, no. it was, it was actually awfully quiet there. didn't get no warning, because usually, you can hear when, when the rounds come in. you can hear the whistling noise that determines that there is some mortar or artillery shell coming in. there wasn't nothing like this. >> reporter: and he catches the exact moment on his own cell phone. a frame by frame analysis shows what military experts tell cnn is an antitank missile striking the vehicle. a weapon that requires line of sight targeting to be this accurate. minutes later, the medics's dash cam records a second strike.
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slow motion revealing its yet another antitank missile. >> it was observed and aimed directly, and, to be sure that it's going to be perfect hit, they waited until the complete stop, and after that, basically fired. >> reporter: so do you think that you were deliberately targeted by the other side? >> yes, i think that there is not much of a debate about it. they, they shot two different vehicles and tried to hit another one also, so they were ready. we were prepared. >> reporter: russia has repeatedly denied deliberately targeting civilians. but over this gruesome video of the aftermath, the russian private military company wagner says the volunteer medics were foreign mercenaries hit by what it calls an accurate strike.
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even for humanitarian volunteers in this bakhmut meatgrinder, protection, it seems, is scarce. >> it's so incredible, i just want to show this video one more time, this targeted attack, because you get a sense of just how quiet it was right before this. i mean, there's no, there's no indication that, that this is about to happen. the rescue worker you spoke to give any more clarity about why the russians might be targeting medics in this area? >> they did, yeah. you're right to point out how quiet it is. i mean, i've been to bakhmut myself, and it is extremely noisy when there is fighting going on. and so it really is striking the silence that you can hear sort of in the bracket on there. in terms of, you know, why they
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would've been targeted, well, what the medics say is that, look, the russians know very well these volunteers from the united states, from other countries, are doing enormous amounts of good to the civilian population inside these areas. sometimes they're the only sort of medical presence on the ground, and the russians, they say, are determined to stop that. to, to take that away, to deter these people from going to the front lines. the medic i spoke to in that report, erko, said for his part, it's not going to work. he's determined to go back, and says he'll be back in the front lines in just a couple of weeks, anderson. >> wow. i just want to show a still image again where you see that missile there. i've never seen an image like this. it took me a while to actually even see the missile, but once i realized it was parallel to the ground, you can also see where mr. reed and the others were. the van that they were in, the medics were in, i know the van that the, the man who pulled up from, who took the video was in. that was clearly marked.
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does the, did the van that mr. reed was in and the others, pete reed was in, was that marked at all as a medic's van? >> it doesn't seem to be, does it? looks like a white civilian van. i mean, i understand that inside, it's converted into an ambulance, but it doesn't have the sort of big red crosses on it that you might expect. in that kind of location. look, i mean, what the medics say is that there's no way this could've been mistaken for anything other than an ambulance, simply because these medical teams, pete reed included, had been working in bakhmut for months upon months , and the russians knew very well what they were doing, what these medical sort of volunteers , the kind of action they've been involved in, and the kind of way they were. they say there's no way this could've been mistaken. for anything military at all. which, again, you know, underlines for them this idea that they were particularly watched and then targeted russian forces. >> yeah. and as you said, they tried to get another vehicle as well with another missile.
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matthew, appreciate the report. thank you. now to that new report, which is uncovered the extent to which moscow is conducting an extensive campaign to take ukrainian children to russia, and sometimes even give the military training to forcibly adopt them. according to the reports authors, that counts to war crimes under international law, possibly even evidence of genocide. the report was produced by the humanitarian research lab as part of a state department supported program for gathering evidence of russian war crimes. it identifies 43 facilities that are part of a network stretching from the black seat to siberia. their primary purpose appears to be political re-education. nathaniel raymond is the humanitarian research lab executive director and oversaw the report. nathaniel, i saw you called us an amber alert for ukraine's children. can you just explain what you mean? >> well, anderson, what i mean is that, well, we know thou that the 6000 children have been through the system. we think the number is actually far larger. and we are basically dealing
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with the largest network of children's camps seen in the 21st century. the structures from the black sea all the way to the eastern pacific coast, about 1000, 3000 miles from alaska. so these 43 facilities, we have four-month-olds all the way to 17-year-olds, many of which have not been able to contact their parents in months. >> i mean, how is this organized? who is in charge of this? how high up does this go in russia? >> this goes all the way to the kremlin. the leader of the program is a woman known as maria lvova- belova , who is under u.s. sanctioned. she is the child's rights commissioner for russia, and what we identify in this report is 12 individuals, some of which reporting directly to lvova-belova , that are not under u.s. sanctions yet, or international sanctions,
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including four regional governors. and this is very important. russia is running sort of what could be described as a twisted sister cities program, where communities in russia are sponsoring communities in ukraine on an individual town by town basis to bring those children into russia for re- education purposes, including military training in some instances been >> in some instances, they're actually giving children, teenagers, military training, and they're doing re-education in the sense of sort of russian focused re-education. they're trying to make them into russians, is that right? >> yes. which does constitute a potential crime against humanity and violation of the 1998 rome statute and the genocide convention. it is a legal under national law, even temporarily, to transfer one group of children to another group for purposes of erasing national identity or ethnicity. that was actually the first
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trial held at the nuremberg tribunals against the after world war ii. >> the russians, at least some in the government, they seem proud of the spirit it's not as if they are doing all of this in secret. they are, they are embracing this as a, like, a national project, it seems. >> 100%. the primary audience here for what is dubbed the humanitarian project can be described as a performance for russia's domestic citizenry. at the end of the day, this is part of an effort to rebrand the invasion, but what's clear is that it's a violation of the geneva convention. so we're basically talking about thousands of children that are in a situation where they could be used as a bargaining chip in any future prisoner exchange with the ukrainians, and first and foremost, the russians have an obligation under geneva convention to move them to a third-party country, not to russia. that right there, no matter how
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long they stay, makes this a war crime. >> and some of them, correct me if i'm wrong, who may have parents are considered, are labeled orphans and being adopted into russian families, or fostered by russian families. >> we found two locations, including the psychiatric hospital and what the russians call a family center in moscow, where children, some of them infants and toddlers, were being adopted and fostered by russian families. after the invasion, putin and the kremlin changed russia's adoption law to allow for the first time adoption of ukrainians. additionally, they added a $200 a month bonus in basically russia's social security system to encourage adoption. so at the end of the day, our number one information source was the statements of russia's own officials as they were promoting the program and speaking about it as something they were proud of. >> i mean, this is truly sickening. i mean, this is sacred >> i've been a war crimes
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investigator for 24 years. i've worked on everything from torture to large-scale massacres. this has been one of the hardest reports i've worked on, because i'm watching a disaster that is a human rights emergency that's going to radiate for decades. there is, so far, little we can do about it. >> what can be done? >> well, we have submitted our report to the u.s. department of state. they are reviewing information in the report to see if there's steps, such as sanctions or other efforts that the u.s. can do against these specific individuals in this program, and we'll see what the u.s. government does. i think that there are four things that can be done here. anderson. first, and most critically, his registration. going back to bosnia, to kosovo, many recent conflicts, having a clear internationally monitored registration system is the first step to reuniting families.
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second, communication. the phones of these children, when they have them, have been taken, in many cases. re-establishing means for them to call home, call mom, call dad is a critical first step. and third thing is we need international monitors in there from the united nations and other international governmental organizations, because right now, it's only russia's word, and that's not good enough. and forth and finally, there needs to be movement of these kids to a third-party country as required by the laws but >> nathaniel raymond, your reporting is stunning. i appreciate it. thank you. >> all honor to my team. >> russia's embassy launching responded to the report just today, dismissing it as, quote, absurd. you're next for us in it, two pieces of racing news from inside the special counsel investigation of the former president, including how high up the subpoenas now go. details when we come back.
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around january 6. kaylie collins reporting on this, joins us now, as well as cnn political commentator, who is director of communications of the former president, and cnn legal analyst and former deputy assistant attorney general. >> reporter: the subpoena has come from the special counsel's office, jack smith. it was sometime in january, i'm told, and basically what they want from mark meadows's testimony and documents related to january 6. and jack smith is investigating two things at once. one, the classified document taken for mar-a-lago, but also trumps actions leading up to and on january 6. and obviously mark meadows is one of his most senior aides, if not his most senior aide that day, who was in and out of the oval office, and we talked about what that looks like. and so he is someone who would obviously have good insight into what trump was doing that day. but obviously this is likely to set up a very big fight over executive privilege. you've seen, you know, in the other subpoenas that we seen from the special counsel recently, namely the vice president, the former vice president, he has said that he's going to fight
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it. >> i mean, mark meadows must know as much as anybody knows it >> right. i would say that he's as much a target in the investigation as he is a witness and going after the former president. in the final stretch leading up to january 6, he was, you know, uniquely involved in everything from false electors to the pressure campaign against mike pence to the actual organization of the ellipse rally. so he's, he's a wealth of information of what i would imagine special counsel wants to look at it i anticipate that he'll do one of two things. he'll either outright tried to contested on the grounds of executive privilege, or he may sort of folk cooperate on some small details. >> which is what he did with the january 6 committee. >> exactly. and i think this warrants a bigger conversation around, like, should electioneering be covered by executive privilege? this was purely a campaign manner. this wasn't about the election. this was, like, the deliberations but >> he was calling the secretary of state in georgia, remember? went and visited -- but he went
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down there. >> he was deeply involved in that aspect of it, we know. >> the former vice president said he's finding a subpoena from the justice department on the separation of powers grounds. what about meadows? i mean, is there a legal basis, especially if he is also not just a witness but a potential subject of a criminal investigation. >> well, there's a few questions in there. so number one, it's harder to see how he's a subject or a target of the investigation. the justice department tends to not compel people to testify that they're going to go on and charged with a crime, and here's the big problem with doing so. what you've done is forced him to testify against his wishes. it's really hard, then, to sort of, to charge him with a crime after that, because you've already got testimony from him, you know? we don't make people testify against themselves. that's a little tricky. hard to see what they do there. now, with the respect to executive privilege, we should talk about what we mean and what dance floor. we got into this a little bit. we expect him, the country, that the president of the united states is entitled to a
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measure of protection for the conversations he has with his senior staff. that's not about. but that can't extend to wrongdoing or concealing crimes. if the president were to say to his chief of staff, hey, let's go rob a bank tomorrow, no one in no court would ever say that that statement ought to be protected. so, look. meadows well, i think, likely try to challenge this on executive privilege grounds. some of the conversations he had with the president might be protected, but, look, if we're talking about possible criminal wrongdoing of the president or someone around him, it's going to be really hard to not have some of the statements be brought into corporate >> this may be a really dumb question, but if he had been a potential target, is it possible that they made a deal with him in order to not be a target, in order to become a witness? >> it's absolutely possible. and that does happen frequently, anderson, where someone might be investigated by the justice department, or any law enforcement entity, and, you know, say, look, you know, we won't charge you with a crime if you will come in and
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testify. it's hard. maybe that happened. it's just hard to know, we don't have enough information to suggest that, but that absolutely happened across the world of prosecution all the time. >> because there had been a lot of talk or questions raised a while ago whether he was somehow cooperative. >> and to that point, we don't know, actually, if he's negotiated with the justice department on this, it is cooperating. his attorneys, they did not,, and neither did the doj. to that, there has been a breakdown in communication between his attorney and the trump attorneys. the trump legal team. they're not communicative or talking. that doesn't mean anything, but it could be an indication, potentially. he's also tried to fight subpoenas on this before. he tried to fight it, saying that he had executive privilege. it was, the supreme court of south carolina decided against that and said that he did have to testify in that. so we'll see what he actually is doing in the spirit it does speak to the level of, though, how aggressive jack smith is being with all of the subpoenas. >> there's also this report about just the sheer number of cases that, the special counsel is, is fighting. i mean, it's, it's going to be
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extraordinary the lengths to which they are going. do you think it has to do with the 2020 election, the 2020 election or the classified documents? >> i think that's kind of the magic question right now, because i think there was a sense maybe several months ago that, you know, trumps undoing and the real target of geo date was going to be the classified documents. listen, they're two parallel investigations into biden and trump. they're separate. but i think that the momentum behind that may have shifted when it came to light that many former presidents and vice presidents had classified documents. i think there was a little bit of sense that there was a sleepiness on january 6, and this puts kind of new life into it that probably these seniormost person, other than third most senior after the president, the vice president, was also been subpoena now, mark meadows has, shows that the council is looking into january 6. and again, this is an extraordinary, historic moment that took place in the actions leading up to it. it calls for extraordinary measures. but it's an uphill battle. i mean, most of the most important cooperating potential
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witnesses are going to fight it. >> thanks so much. appreciate it. coming up next, how people in michigan state are remembering the three students killed by a mass shooter, and how they're coping in the wake of it. and in a buffalo courtroom, families confront the man who murdered 10 people they loved untended that day. for the top p supermarket. we'll be right back.k. of energy there is ... you. this is the lexus variety of electrification ... inspired by, created for and powered by you. ♪
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>> two communities tonight dealing with the thoughts and feelings so many americans have gone through. in east lansing, michigan, on
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the campus of michigan state, people had a candlelight vigil for the three students murdered there this week. governor spoke about the need to take action against gun violence. she quoted something that one of the victims, alexandria vernon, wrote to a classmen in her high school yearbook. today may be hard she wrote, but tomorrow will be better. in buffalo, emotions spilled over as people who lost loved ones at the top's grocery mass murder made their voices heard at a sentencing hearing for the man who killed 10 people close to them. cnn has more. >> i'm not going to be nice. my name is barbara massey. i'm katherine massey sister. you killed my sister. >> reporter: sentencing date for a shooter became families processing pain they've carried with them for almost a year. katherine massey was 72 years old. >> your little punk -- decided to come and kill my sister. >> reporter: her sister, barbara, making sure the shooter new who he killed.
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>> a saint among sinners! you come to my city and decide you don't like like people. man, you don't know -- thing about black people! we're human! we love our kids! we never go in no neighborhoods and take people out! >> reporter: barbara's son lunged in. family after family pulling no punches. >> you journeyed down my grandmother's straight and then walked up at tops and killed two of my family members. >> i want you to think about this every day of your life. every day of your life, think about my family, and the other nine families that you've destroyed forever. forever. may 14th will never be the same for me. and it wasn't just emotions. it was reliving may 14th, 2022 all over again. the shooter walked into a top supermarket in buffalo and
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killed 10, wounding three others with the express intent of killing black people. in court, the shooter apologized, but it didn't seem to have any impact. >> how can you possibly get any kind of -- how can you possibly stand up here and say that you're sorry? the hatred that you must have in your heart for black people, i will never understand. i don't want to understand. but i must say this. i pray to god they do not kill you. >> if you don't know god, i invite you to find him, because you are going to need him. >> reporter: he was sentenced to life in prison. the judge leaving no room for interpretation. >> there can be no mercy for you. no understanding. no second chances. the damage you have caused is too great, and the people you
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have hurt are too valuable to this community. you will never see the light of day as a free man ever again. >> reporter: after court, the families hope their message was more clear than the sentence could ever be. >> yes, somebody rushed him at him today in the courtroom. but that's the emotion that all of these families feel on the inside. i feel like that every single day. we all feel like that every single day. i was happy to see him scared today. he should be able to feel what those families felt that they when he pointed the gun in their faces. >> now, there are still federal hate crime charges, and also weapon charges. >> yeah, so what the federal level, among them, 10 counts of hate crime resulting in death, and what's significant about those as these are federal charges that could carry the potential for the death penalty.
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now, attorney general merrick garland has yet to make a decision on that type of pursuit, but back in december, the shooter's attorney said that they would plead guilty if it meant that the death penalty, or the possible death penalty, would be taken off the table. it led some to believe, including the local d.a. today, that the apology we heard in court may have been to try and wiggle away from that possibility, whether it was actually authentic, that apology, or, as many of these families believe, not. >> appreciate it. of next, pivotal court. jurors seeing state investigators directly asking murdoch if he killed his wife and son. the details on that next. there n the highgh interest, the fees... i feltlt trapped. debt, debtbt, debt. so i broke up with my credit card debt and consolidated it intoto a low-rate personal loan from sofi. i finally feel like a grown-up. break up with bad credit card debt. get a personal loan with no fees, low fixed rates, and borrow up to $100k.
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pivotal day in the double murder trial of disgraced former south carolina attorney alec murdaugh. murdaugh is accused of killing his wife and son. jurors today saw footage from a crucial third interview that murdaugh had with the lead investigator from the southern carolina law enforcement division just a couple months after the merger's. in it, the investigator tells murdaugh that he is the focus of their investigation. >> did you kill maggie? >> no. >> did you kill paul? >> no, i did not kill paul.
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>> reporter: this is the first time we hear lead investigator david owen ask alex myrdal directly if he killed his wife. maggie murdaugh, and their son paul. >> i do not know who did it. >> reporter: special agent owen had a lot more questions for murdaugh, too, including why he was wearing something different after the murders than he was earlier in the night on this snapchatted video pulled from his son's phone. >> what point did you change clothes? >> i'm not sure. i, you know, it would've been, i guess that changed when i got back to the house. >> reporter: the prosecution has suggested that murdaugh showered and changed his clothes following the murder. the defense pushed back on that. >> when you expect to find some trace evidence of blood somewhere in the house? >> there was no trace evidence of blood found in the house, no. >> thank you. >> reporter: alex murdoch has told investigators several times that on the night of the murders, he had dinner with his families, then took a nap and later drove to his mother's
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house. >> how long would you say you were at your mom's? >> 45 minutes, an hour. >> reporter: 45 minutes to an hour? remember, his mother's caretaker testified murdaugh came by the house for just 15 to 20 minutes that night . at least four times during this interview, when asked murdaugh if he was at the kennels where the murders took place earlier that night. before he says he found his family dead. each time, murdaugh denied being there. >> and you didn't go back down there after dinner until after visiting your mom? >> yes, sir. >> reporter: owen also asked murdaugh if it was his voice on a video investigators extracted from paul murdaugh's phone. it had been recorded at the murder scene at 8:44 p.m., just a few minutes before paul and maggie were killed. >> was it you? >> no sir. none of my times were right. >> reporter: at least eight
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witnesses have testified that it's alex murdaugh voice on that recording. murdaugh also had some questions for owen during the interview. >> can you tell me for sure, did you -- is this one person, two persons, three persons? >> is that the first time he's ever asked me that? >> yes, sir. >> ever? >> that i recall, you spread >> in the whole investigation to this point? >> yes, sir. >> reporter: and just before the interview ended, we made it clear to murdaugh that investigators are focused on him and only him. >> do you think i killed maggie? >> i have to go with the evidence and the facts. >> and you think i killed paul. >> i have to go with the evidence of the facts take me, and i don't have anything that points to anybody else at this
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time. >> what else stood out to you in the interview with, with murdaugh that was played in court today? it's fascinating to hear the investigator, you know, admit that, that he is the suspect. >> yeah, absolutely. and we hadn't heard that before. but there was a really key moment with the investigator told alex murdaugh that they had already determined that a family owned weapon was used in the murders, and he really had no reaction to this. alex didn't ask, how did you know that, or where is that weapon now? he also told the investigator that maggie murdaugh had wanted to come to the house that night, but her sister had testified that maggie told her that alex had asked her to come to the house that night, along with their son paul. and there was one really disturbing moment, anderson, where alex asked the investigator how far apart maggie and paul were when they were shot, and if one knew the other was that. of course, the killer would likely know that information. the investigator did not have an answer for him, medicine. >> i appreciate it.
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almost 10 full days off are the earthquake that hit turkey and syria, rescuers today pulled out a 74-year-old woman. we don't know much more than that, other than she was immediately transferred to the hospital. also today, a mom and her two children, amazingly, were pulled from the rubble. her name is ella. we don't know their ages. we do know that when ella, the mom, was pulled from the rubble, her first question was, what day is it? i'm joined now by cnn's chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay cooper, who's been in turkey. sunday, what have you seen today? >> reporter: yeah, anderson. i mean, these stories are really remarkable. you may remember when we were in haiti together, we would hear about some of these remarkable stories even this many days out. i can tell you, the boat is very much still rescue and relief. that's the tone that you feel. some of these places in this sort of area of the world,
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they're hard to access. they were already hard to access, and even harder given all that has happened. in order to get to people, provide that relief, they've had to take to the skies. the skies over turkey are continuously pierced, but the sound of helicopter blades still performing crucial search and rescue, but also delivering people and goods to places hard to access, and now near isolated from the rest of the world. what the earthquake did in just minutes here. so many buildings razed to the ground. more than eight days later, too many people still going without even basic supplies. >> donations continue to pour in from all over the world. to give you an idea, they have things like baby formula. these are safety hardhats over here.
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these are the types of things that are coming in. over here, you have bread. so they have all sorts of dry foods that are coming in. these are donations that are coming from individuals, things like linkage and, and warm clothes. and really, just as far as the eye can see, there's all sorts of supplies that are now trying to get from this airstrip to the people who desperately need them. >> reporter: over and over again, spontaneous supply lines, like this one, form, and within minutes, dozens and dozens of tents are loaded onto the helicopter. today's mission, to provide cover and protection, a province that has lost both. from the sky, it is easy to see why they are so necessary. a group of men can be seen waiting earnestly for their temporary new homes. they quickly unload the helicopter, struggling against the war of the blades, which never stop. >> so they've just unloaded the tents here. this is one of the hardest hit areas.
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>> reporter: off in the distance, a floating hospital, a near necessity after natural disasters like this. after all, as with most other buildings, the hospitals often don't survive either. these hospital ships provide immediate beds and operating rooms, like this one, with 37- year-old minute receive an operation on his leg after falling two stories during the earthquake. even a maternity ward. yes, tragically, more than 40,000 people have died, but there has also been new life here. a beautiful baby girl. another benefit, the captain tells me. unlike the field hospitals on firm ground, these hospital ships in the water are relatively protected from the numerous aftershocks that continuously devastate the land. for now, the ground is quiet, but the skies are loud, and that is good, as this part of
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the world slowly, surely finds its footing. >> sunday, we seen these hospital ships before. i remember you were on one in the aftermath of the earthquake in haiti. how effective are they? >> reporter: yeah, they're really effective, anderson. if you think about it, the hospitals are just as vulnerable as all the other buildings and a quake zone, so the hospitals, in some way, become their own patients. so bringing in a ship with all those resources, it's, it's critically important. and i saw that in haiti. that was the s&s carl vinson that actually flung me out there to perform surgery on a little girl named kimberly. but the thing that struck me today, talking to the captain of the ship, was, look, there's all these aftershocks, and you put in a field hospital, they can be vulnerable to these aftershocks. it's something they had to sort
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is the only player to match all six numbers of the historic powerball drawing last november is edwin castro. >> castro won the largest ever lottery jackpot in history. he chose the lump sum payment, taking on nearly $1 billion. castro, i think, wisely declined to appear at the news conference, but said the real winner is california's public schools, which will receive more than $150 million in supplemental funds, another record-breaking total. joining me now is harry. how much food can one by with $1 billion? >> okay, so i set it up in three, three different levels, okay? let's say you want to go to the most expensive restaurant in the entire world. you can buy about 400,000 meals. let's say you want to go expensive, but not too expensive, so you can go to -- we're going to go to boston market in a second. great restaurant.
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you can buy about 7 million tomahawk stakes there. or you can go to one of your personal favorites, and mine, boston market. >> are there any left? >> not in manhattan. but there are in queens, so you can go out there, and we can buy 77 million whole chickens. it's about 1290 -- but i like the turkey meal. >> i, i like the turkey meal. i like the chicken. i like the half chicken. i get two sides with that. creamed spinach. how about the cornbread? >> no, the creamed corn was good. >> the creamed corn? >> yeah. so how does the -- i think the winner was wise not to show up, and it's good his name is edwin castro, because probably hard to track him down. >> he's my new best friend could >> how does he stack up against the rich people in the world? >> i think this gives you an idea -- they're handing him $1 billion, of course, that there are taxes, so it's closer to, let's say, somewhere 600, somewhere in the neighborhood.
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still a large sum of money. but i think if you can compare it to some of the richest folks in the world, their net worth, it gives you an idea that this is a lot of money, but not anywhere close to the richest, right? go to the richest men in the world, louis vuitton, a personal favorite of mine. not really, but -- michael jordan is a little bit closer, but bernardo cummings was about, you know, $216 billion in that neighborhood, 250 million, $240 million, and you look at someone like michael jordan, is worth a little bit less than $2 billion. so essentially, you have to go win the powerball twice to get to the level of michael jordan. you have to win about 200 to get to the level of her no. >> and with inflation, taking that into account, how much have these things changed? >> so i think we can have two different baselines here. first, let's use the year you were born. so how much was $1 billion today worth when you were born? it's closer to about $100 million. that's how much inflation has really taken things. how about joe biden, who, of
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course, was born in 1942? that, now, $1 billion today is worth only about $50 million, $50 million back when joe biden was born. that, it's about 20 times. it's incredible how much inflation has -- so essentially -- basically, the idea is, you know, if you were a kid, you're like, $1 billion, today, $1 billion is worth a lot, but it not anywhere near -- >> said $56 million when joe biden was born, that's the equivalent of $1 billion today. >> correct. and about $100 million when you were born is worth about $1 billion today. so inflation really has evolved. >> is it wise to take the lump sum. >> absolutely. because then you can invested in different ways. it depends how much inflation -- but but you're going to go crazy and blow it all, but it's probably not a good idea. >> right. it's a question i ask myself every night. and thanks very much. news continues out now. up front next. breaking news on multiple stories. he and and learning exclusively that m