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i am alisyn camerota. welcome to cnn tonight. breaking news. a cnn exclusive. mark meadows, the former white house chief of staff or donald trump, has been subpoenaed by the special counsel. meadows was in the room for most of the key events on january 6th and the days before. so, more on that in a moment. plus, what is going on with that ohio toxic train derailment? the railroad officials behind that toxic train derailment just backed out of a town hall meeting tonight because of what they say are threats to their employees. but people in the town of east palestine are demanding answers and they say they are getting sick. >> my kids, are they safe? is the future of this community safe? >> and another close call on the runway. we are just learning of a jet and a cargo plane almost colliding last month in honolulu. why are these near disasters happening? are we getting less safe in the

sky? and on a lighter note, a professional baseball player who walked away from a multi million dollar career, to live on a sailboat in the caribbean. he says he is stepping away from consumption and competition and more moneymaking. so, what is your magical number to walk away from it all? our panel takes that on. so, let's start with our breaking news. cnn senior justice correspondent evan perez has our exclusive on the mark meadows subpoena. what are you learning? >> mark meadows has received a subpoena from special counsel, jack smith. he is doing to investigations. one of, them obviously, the january 6th investigation. he's also doing one into the alleged mishandling of classified information. at mar-a-lago. i would say mark meadows, because he was chief of staff, was a key witness to a lot of the things that donald trump is doing to try to remain in power after losing the 2020 election. he was on that infamous phone call with georgia officials trying to figure out how to find more votes.

he was there helping trump trying to pressure the justice department, trying to pressure members of congress to try to help him, again, overturn the election results. so, what we expect now to happen is that, you know, meadows, because of his seniority, as an aide to the former president, it is likely to raise the issue of executive privilege, which means that we might see some litigation between trump and meadows as they try to fight off what the justice department is trying to get from him, which includes documents and testimony. >> also tell us about this new information you have on some secret court battles. the special counsel jack smith is locked in. i guess they're not that secret. what do you know? >> well, they are secret. but thankfully, we have casey -- who sits at the courthouse and watches these lawyers come in and out. as they try to fight these battles. and we know of at least eight of them that have to do with efforts by trump and his allies

to try to resist providing information that the special counsel is trying to get as part of this very sprawling investigation. one of them involves evan corcoran, who talked about just in the last couple of days. he got a subpoena. he's a lawyer for the former president. and trump is trying to shield him. and efren corcoran is trying to resist providing information about what he talk to trump about, regarding these classified documents. and a number of of for litigations like this that we know is going on behind the scenes. the question for the justice department is why is this have to be secret? given the great importance of these fights. and one of the things they are telling the judge is that because of the great public interest, that is the reason why it must remain secret. >> okay. and also, we are hearing that the fbi searched the university of delaware for biden documents. what do we know about this?

>> so many things happening. in a case of joe biden, we have learned of two additional searches that were done at the university of delaware. two different searches in two locations at the university of delaware. sources telling paula reid that the documents that were retrieved and taken back by the fbi are now being reviewed, at least from the initial look at them, there was no outward sign that they bore any classified markings. so, that is good news for the president. obviously, he has a special counsel, who is looking at documents that have been found at his home as well as at a private office here in washington. a lot more must be done in that investigation. >> okay. evan perez, thank you so much for bringing us all of that breaking news tonight. >> now, let's get to the toxic chemical crisis following that train derailment 12 days ago. joining me now is nate -- he had to leave his home and his business after the chemical

spill and is currently living in an eight -- airbnb. thank you for being here. tell us, what has your neighborhood, your house, what has it been like for the past 12 days? >> well, not great. most people did not want to go home, but they had to. so, all the people who had to go home were complaining of smells, planes in their throat, headaches, sickness. luckily, i have not gone back. but i have gone back a few times and the smell does make you sick. it hurts your head. and everyone is miserable. the whole town is miserable. that's the best way to describe it. >> you live less than half a mile from there and you have had to go back to check something's and understand that you are back today and it was really hard, it was physically hurt and it was emotionally hard for you. >> yeah.

we had a rough day today. and we are staying in these airbnbs. and it's not like you can just get one whenever you want. so, you need to fill in the gaps where you cannot get an airbnb. so, we are trying to find these days and line the dates up. it's been two weeks now. and we have no plans of going back to our house. but then we start to look at it and were like, okay, the money will run out by this date. and we still need to pay for that house that we don't want to live in. and so, everything -- there are so many things to figure out. it's not just me. it is an entire town. and then we are all excited for this town hall meeting and it is just a slap in the face because the people who put us out are too afraid to show up to the meeting. they are -- >> let's talk about that. the officials from the railroad

did not show up at the town hall meeting tonight because they said that their employees are getting threats. so they decided to skip it. i have a little bit of sound from what happened. here's what the mayor said of the town hall meeting tonight. >> we are here. the railroad did us wrong. so far, they have worked with us and they are fixing it. but if that stopped, i will guarantee you, i will be the first one in line to fight them. >> with the mayor, the message was that they have worked with us so far and they are fixing it. do you have confidence in the? >> i have confidence in the mayor doing the best he can. i don't have any confidence in the railroad or anyone affiliated with them or anyone they hire. that is the whole thing. they tell us it is safe to go back and they determined that based on findings and data from companies that they hired.

the same people that crashed the train into the town are the people who hired the people to tell them, yeah, it's okay to go into your house. you don't need to be a scientist to know you don't need to prove anything -- when you walk into your home or your business, you should not feel sick. it is just, like, i don't know how i can make that any simpler. you know? >> so, when the governor tweeted earlier tonight, new water testing results show no detection of contaminants in east palestine's municipal water system. with these test results, we are confident that the municipal water is safe to drink. does that comfort you? >> well, no. i mean, okay. they call the test results today. so, great. fantastic. but yesterday there was 3500 dead fish in the water. how would anyone feel confident

about that? even yesterday, the governor himself said, yeah, the tests are good so far, but just in case, drink bottled water. so, that is the thing. all the people are saying it is okay, but they are not the people who need to drink it, or sleep in it, or live in it. i have no idea how to do your job. but my clipboard says you are doing it wrong. you know? >> nate, you have two kids. we have a cute halloween picture of these guys. you have a nine year old and an 18 month old. what is the deal? are they going to school? how are they surviving this? >> so, that is the thing. luckily, the baby, she is just happy with, you know, whatever. but my son, you know, he misses school, but he has not gone back yet. half the kids who went back we're getting rashes and getting sick. just today, a friend of mine -- one of my customers, his daughter, they posted a video,

we are coming out from school today. she was beat red. and he had a live video of her puking. and that is not a onetime deal. there were a couple of kids who posted today and yesterday, throwing up, sick, russia's, so they are pulling them back out of school. >> that is no good. >> i don't want to take them back. but i feel forced. okay. you run out of money. technically, we still -- what do you do? i feel like i am back against the wall. my life has been literally railroaded. >> i take the pond. nate, we will try to get you some answers tonight. we will keep going and try to get your answers. nate, thank you so much, we are thinking of you. thank you. of course we will check back with you. >> thank you. >> hurricane ian studio now a cnn chief climate correspondent bill weir. and jane conroy, and attorney now representing hundreds of residents in that community in

a class action lawsuit against norfolk southern railroad. great to have you both. jane, let me start with you. you're representing hundreds of people now in this community. do they share similar stories? what do they want out of this class action lawsuit? >> i don't even know that they are thinking so much about the class action lawsuit right now. but i think they are thinking about the things that nate said. what about their kids? what about the water? what is happening to their lives? what about their livelihoods? their homes? that they own. everywhere. they are living in hotels, airbnbs, family members are putting them up places. and some people we know are back in their homes because they have livestock, or crops that they need to deal with. so, it is a mixed bag. but there is a lot of fear. and there is a lot of concern. and there is always that question of how are we going to hold norfolk southern accountable? but that is not helping right now. that is not helping nate today. >> is there anything that can

help them today? >> maybe. i think there could be some efforts that could be taken to try to help assist with housing and those types of things, but we did not -- vero did not even show up at the meeting. it is a little hard to have those conversations. >> what do you think about that? there was a town hall meeting tonight where residents would voice their concerns. and the railroad said that their employees were getting too many threats. >> i don't know anything about the threats. but i don't think it is slowing down trains, running on tracks near east palestine. so, you know, norfolk southern is worried about some things, but not its business. >> bill, let me play for you a little bit more sound from this town hall and the frustration of the residents. >> is everybody satisfied with my answer? >> no. >> why are people getting sick if there is nothing in the air or the water? [applause] [inaudible]

>> with all due respect, you still won't be able to answer the question -- [inaudible] [applause] >> i have concerns of dead fish in the water. i am not a scientist. [inaudible] >> why can't you get answers? [inaudible] [applause] >> well, i mean, you heard it there. why are people getting sick if there's nothing in the air or water? >> if you think those folks are mad now, wait until they have the time to actually look into the history of norfolk southern and really the railroad industry in the last decade in this country. that train that derailed was almost two miles long. as a result of an era right now of downsizing staff, laying off 30% of workers, and making the trains 30% longer. and they're operated with breaks that were first invented in the civil war. 1867 air breaks that break from the front to the back.

it could take two minutes before the backup car knows to slow down. and so, it becomes the slinky from heck that slammed into the cars that have already stopped. of course we have eight miles trapped in the 21st century. it's called electronic controlled pneumatic brakes. they basically stop every car at once. immediately. much more efficient. and in 2014, the obama administration wanted to make that mandatory. after a bunch of derailments just like this in new jersey. and the industry and norfolk southern fought even though they had put some on their trains and were screaming about the benefits. they said if we put that on our trains, they should be exempt from all other inspections because they're so safe. but they thought it was too expensive to invest in that. >> do you know if these folks have gotten a response from norfolk southern yet? have they replied? >> i've not heard anything on that. >> i read that they have set up a 1 million dollar fund for the

community. how will that go over? will not be enough to help the folks like nate? >> no. it probably will not pay for all the properties on the livelihoods and medical monitoring for all of these individuals. what i do hope is that they are not expecting that even if they do get that kind of small assistance to a resident that they don't make them sign away all their rights to the future recovery. that is always a worry that we have. so, you know, cash like that could really help. but not if it is strings attached. >> you are telling me also just the amount of response that had to show up in terms of the fire department, the fire trucks, that alone could eat up much of that $1 million. >> i was stunned to learn. i was talking to city officials over the last couple of days. and 90 fire departments were needed to come on scene. not a big surprise with the size of this fire. to work on the fire for days and days. we have now learned that all of that fire equipment as well as

the firefighters radios and the police departments radios, they need to be replaced because of the contaminants that were on the scene. and the fire trucks in the other types of equipment, if they can be salvaged, need to be cleaned at an enormous expense. so, you take a town like east palestine or any of the other locations with fire departments, first of all, their equipment is not even available if something were to catch on fire tomorrow. so, the problem -- the more we learn, the more it just keeps growing and growing. >> and bill, this train of hazardous materials that the governor said he did not know contained hazardous materials, how many of these trains are chugging through all of our neighborhoods at any given moment? >> lots of them all the time everywhere. you know, you can reroute a truck full of hazardous material around a population center, but trains are limited on a track choices and all the economics of it, it's all about efficiency. they fought, the lobbying groups designation that this

particular kind of train carrying this is extra hazardous, extra explosive. they willed it down a couple of train trucks -- in order to classify. because that would slow things down and this is money. they are making money. this company made 13 billion, just shy of 13 billion dollars in profits last year and what's interesting in 2004, norfolk southern train crash in south carolina spilled chlorine, killed nine people, but they paid a 4 million dollar fine because they had violated the clean water act and killed a bunch of fish. i don't know. there may had been a class action site -- somebody is doing a train wreck cost-benefit analysis between paying to put the brakes on the train. there's about 1000 derailments a year. i looked at the stats. 150 of those, 15%, are due to bad tracks that either buckled, they can't take the wait. or they have shifted. and the industry is laying off all of these people that would be inspecting those tracks for

the profit. and to be fair, the railroad union has kind of gotten screwed from both parties. joe biden and the democrats kept them from striking to get paid health care recently to stop a national rail shortage. they were afraid of inflation. so -- it is not going away. and i don't know what the changes are going to be. it kind of feels like, you know, if you replace the word trains for guns and say the same special interest that are unifying to stop changes and common sense safety is existing here. >> there certainly is not going away in east palestine. thank you both so much for all the information. we will follow it every single day. >> please do. that is what is necessary. >> thank you. now, there is another in the ever growing list of disasters in the air and on a runway, a close call between a jet and a cargo plane in honolulu. it happened last month. we're only finding out about it now. are we less safe in the sky? when our daughter and her kids moved in with us... our bargain detergent couldn't keep up. turns out it's mostly water.

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then, there was the near miss in -- where a fedex plane almost landed on top of a southwest flight. and of course, last month, thousands of americans were stuck in the airport when the vast airline computer system crashed and that led to the first nationwide stoppage of flight since the september 11th attacks. it's no wonder the acting head of the federal aviation administration faced a bipartisan drilling on capitol hill today. >> we have a backup redundant system. why couldn't we just go to that system? >> i thank you madam chair, for the question. >> i'm asking you if you have an answer today about why that occurred. >> no, ma'am. that investigation is ongoing. >> how did air traffic control direct one plane onto the runway to take off and another plane to land and have them both within hundred feet of each other? >> it is not what we would expect to have happen. but when we think about the controls, how we train both our controllers and our pilots, the

system works. >> let's bring in former faa safety inspector, david -- this will be a habit of meeting every night because they continue to be these really nerve-racking incidents in the sky. and the fact that the acting faa administrator could not answer some of those questions about the system or sudden of the hour why that is happening, how concerning is that? >> the fact that he doesn't know doesn't concern me nearly as much as the fact that he is still acting and we talked about this before. that acting role is very limited in what they can and can't do, what programs they can start and what they can't do. the faa has a long history of this type of thing, just putting an active administrator in. they -- he said many times it still under investigation, we're still looking into this. he's doing the best with what he can. but this is a bigger picture problem than just that administrator. >> why isn't he permanent, in

that case? >> it's a congressional nomination process, it's this bipartisanship. they need to buy in on who that administrator is going to be, he's an acting administrator because he was deputy administrator when the previous administrator left in the middle of his term to be with his family. and this person was put into that role. he's very capable. i've heard of the guy. i've never met him but i know he's very capable. he has a long history. started as a road or head and has flown everything all the way up to the largest airplanes, but he was also involved in safety improvement and in my role as a safety analyst and investigator, he did that role as well -- he's very capable of doing this. he needs time to do it and there's a lot to fix. >> basically, it's government bureaucracy and politics. so, david, while all of this is being, you know, stalled, are we getting less safe in the sky? >> you know, when things happen

back-to-back-to-back, the faa looks at longer terms safety issues and they need to, that is part of it, but they do need to look at what is happening in the short term and what i am worried about is this agency, especially with the active administrator, but the fact is, that this agency, this organization, has been on autopilot for quite some time, just living on its own merits, living on the fact that the safety record is the best in the world on the best anywhere. and it is. it's still the safest way we travel. no question about it. but when things come back to back like this, they must understand that that is an indicator and they need to know where it is coming from and is not only from the faa, i think congress plays a role in this to. >> but the fact that there have been these near misses, what is not an indicator of? >> to me, that's an indicated of an overloaded safety system, and overloaded national airspace. there are too many things going on, too much going, on they're trying to pack one flight and right after the other, right

after the other. and as the system grows, which it will inevitably grow, they need to start understanding that the human being part of the things, the fact that the seven 77 car just decide to go across a runway without any kind of instructions to do so -- there needs to be some look at training and they need to think about slowing the systems down and it may mean more delays, but the fact is, i would rather be delayed and arrive safely than to be there on time -- >> i think we all. would david, stick around if you would, because we have a lot more questions to you including what this means for the aviation industry as a whole and we have more on the other side. we will be right back.

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the acting head of the faa says he cannot guarantee there will not be another air safety computer system crisis like the one last month that temporarily grounded all flights in the u.s.. why not? former faa safety inspector -- is back with us. and joining the conversation is -- republican strategist -- and senior political analyst john avlon.

john, we were just talking about why is he acting? why is he still the acting faa head? this seems to be an important part of all of our lives. and why isn't congress paying more attention? >> the previous administrator resigned halfway through his term. the biden administration nominated someone last march. he's not gotten a hearing from the senate out of some concern that he does not have enough aviation experience. so, the senate needs to fast-track that or the biden administration needs to pull the nomination and put forward the acting administrator who seems competent, with plenty of experience. we have this clustering of problems in the system. it's not sustainable to keep on an acting director. >> david, when you just saying that he does have a lot of experience? >> excuse me. >> i can come back to you, david. >> i'm sorry. i will come back to you. joe, your thoughts? >> i think at some point, the american people need answers. i think kind of lost in the sauce between all the top of

january 6th and the elections and all the regular partisan division that we have -- we forgot that we had one of the most pervasive cyberattacks in the history of this nation with that solarwinds attack that actually compromise the treasury. a compromise the department of homeland security. it compromised the division within homeland security. it is supposed to -- >> are you saying that the airlines -- >> what i'm saying is that we also know that the washington post reported that there was a compromising of nasa and also a compromising of the faa, so one point, with all of these problems that have emerged, i think it begs the question, is this perhaps some of the residual residue of the cyberattack that occurred, these cascading cyberattacks that have been happening across this nation? >> maybe. but what we heard with the southwest airlines meltdown and even this one is that they just had not been upgraded. they were bound or something. >> i was actually at the airport when we have the faa meltdown. >> how fun was that?

>> you know, what it was was disconcerting because there is basically no communication with passengers, so we're at the airport. i was at miami international airport. they were explaining to us -- it started as a delay. and what are the struggling delays that just keep getting bigger and bigger and nobody understands -- the islands did not know. the airline staff did not know. it was incredibly disconcerting. as somebody who flies, i fly most weeks at least four times a week. and i now find myself thinking about this in a way that i did not before. i relied on a good system. my great concern was, okay, we have now seen how defective this system can be, which now means that our international foes know how vulnerable and effective it is, and if you can get that system to fail, you paralyzed the entire country. >> and we're doing that anyway on our own even before faux finds out. >> there's no evidence that the current delays are because of

hacking. but you need to have resilience and redundancy. we have antiquated systems. this technology is 20 or 30 years old. that is not sufficient when travel is the lifeblood of the nation. economically and culturally. so, look, it's been over a decade since we've had a major air disaster. thank god. but i think that could lead to a degree of complacency. and all these cascading problems are a giant warning sign. >> yes. three or four near misses -- >> this indicated to me that this infrastructure bill, the bipartisan infrastructure bill, that was signed in june and that donald trump tried to pass for four years to the point when it became an ongoing joke, was really necessary. we're seeing it with the trains. we're seeing it with the planes. it is overdue. way overdue. >> and they can't kick into gear fast enough. obviously, they got a past. but it takes a long time to rework all of the airlines systems. >> i think that was part of the thing that many on the right talked about. this kind of expansive approach

to redefining what infrastructure even meant when there was so many clear deficiencies and the hard infrastructure of this nation. i think we see that with the faa, we've seen that with bridges and railways, so i think, again, help was needed. i think i recognized that we don't have flashing right saying that were being hacked. but i do think that we have not even really have the conversation on the floor of congress to really say, look -- the pentagon came out and said we would not know the full extent of the damage for over ten years. so i think that there must be a conversation. >> absolutely. but i am just saying that the problem seems to be antiquated infrastructure and -- >> david, i want to come back to you, what is the answer to that? is this acting faa administrator experienced enough to get the job done? >> well, i think that he is, yeah, he came from the helicopter, he's gone through every different system, even military, all the way through to a commercial pilot. years of experience there.

what he may be lacking is his ability to navigate through these congressional hearings and all that sort of things because although he did an adequate job, the one thing he did not do is put it back on congress because every one of the systems, they asked him about the -- why is it taken ten years to get this thing fixed? the poignant answer that he cannot answer because these guys right his track, the real answer is because congress pulled my funding. they took the funding away. the same thing with the train system. the positive train control system. they mandate the systems and halfway through the deployment, they stop them, and even with the air traffic systems that they have. many of the airports that have these incidents did not have that system installed yet because congress cut their budget. so, they need to turn those fingers. you have them pointed back at you when you point a finger. they need to think about that. >> that's a problem if you can't speak truth to power. that's a problem. all of our lives are affected even if it is not about safety.

just sitting there and being stuck in the airport for hours. if you can't speak truth to power to congress -- >> more to the point, if you have an acting administrator, they don't have that five-year term that leads to autonomy and independence. when we have a system where congress keeps pulling back funding, that derailed the necessary updates that are needed. so, let's get our act together. let's not make this partisan. let's actually fund the faa adequately. let's modernize the infrastructure, including air traffic control, before a real disaster takes place. >> it's one of the most effective lobbies in washington. the airline lobby. i think it -- it moves the airlines to take every measure they can to get this infrastructure so that's not antiquated and it's not vulnerable because if there is a disaster, it will affect all of us. and i must tell you, i feel terrible for airline staff and airline workers, everybody from the pilots to their airport crews, to the flight attendants. they suffered so much during the pandemic. so many were furloughed. then, they couldn't bring them back fast enough.

so they had to deal with unruly passengers. we saw time and time again how the mask issue became -- it turned into world wrestling federation on airplanes. and so, it is just more and more stress on these poor workers. >> such a great point. >> it's broader than just the faa. ever since i was a teenager, we knew that the roads and bridges in this country were greatly deficient. it appears in this country, nothing ever gets fixed until people -- >> now we do have the infrastructure bill. and hopefully, all of the bridges that we see president biden standing in front of every week, they are going to be rehabbed. >> sometimes next to republicans who voted against it. >> you need to pass the bill and implemented. >> hopefully that is happening. all right. thank you all so much. it is the million dollar question. how much money would you need to leave your job? when is enough enough? one former major league baseball player is now causing a lot of us to think about that

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all right, so, how much is enough money for you to walk away from your career? have you ever imagined what that magical number might be? that is exactly what former major league baseball player john jason did. walking away from the possibility of making millions more. there he is during his successful career. and here he is now. he is retired and sailing around the caribbean with his girlfriend. so, our question is, how much is enough for you to give it all up? back with me alisyn camerota -- and joining us now is patrick mcenroe. it is rare for high paid professional athletes to walk away while they can still play. >> i wish i had a problem when

i was making because i was not making enough. but for most athletes, the decision is made for you. you can't make enough money, which i couldn't. or had an injury. a lot of players who are in team sports like baseball, basketball, football, they can't get a new contract. they get cut. so they're out. i think the more interesting players -- the big names. you go back in history. you go to bobby jones, won the grand slam in golf in 1930 and he retired right after that. then you go to some great team sport athletes. jim brown, 1966. he was mvp and 65. then, sandy koufax, one point 73 e.r. a in 66. then, he retired. >> and they just walk away because -- >> well, jim brown went on to be a great influencer in the social world and the political world. but now, the modern athlete is dealing with this idea that they can make so much money in a short period of time that they can play like this baseball player did, who is a really good player, but not a

great player, for seven, eight, nine, ten years, and then they can literally sail off into the sunset, which is what he did. >> what is your magic number? what would you need to give it all up? or would you do that? >> you know, i'm not sure it's about money. because look at tom brady. he had all the money in the world and he kept playing. i think a lot of it is also about the fans and the adrenaline and having something to do and the work and the habit and the fear of the void that is going to be in your heart and in your life and in your schedule. so, when you say what is the number, i'm not sure that it's just all about money. and i think the pandemic actually showed a lot of us who are not athletes, obviously, i have no idea what the heck i am talking about when it comes to athletes -- when you said you are a, i thought you're talking about the organization. but i think the pandemic made a lot of us reassess life. and what our priorities are and where we want to spend our time. >> didn't make us less money grubbing or consumer oriented

and consumption -- because people did walk away from their jobs. out of necessity. you had to go home. and it is sort of renew something about, maybe we have all been spending too much time at the office? maybe we have given up some of our values and that way? that's what he talks about. basically, he had enough and he didn't need any more money. he wanted to go on a sailboat. >> and he did it before the pandemic. this guy is living out with the bumper sticker i would rather be fishing. he is doing it. >> do you have the magic number? >> i don't know. maybe i'm a fool. i quit my job for free to run for u.s. senate last year. so look, at the end of the day, to anna's point, people need to reassess what is important to them. particularly in the aftermath of covid. if you drop dead next week, would you be happy with how you spent this week? and i think for a lot of people, they are sitting there. >> once you drop dead, who cares? >> it's the people you live behind. and people want to spend more time with their family. people realize there is time with loved ones that they will never be able to recapture. i think that is an important aspect of this and i think tom

brady is an interesting pick because i think athletes, for such a long time, were expected to just play until they literally drop dead. almost on the gridiron. be carried out on their shield. and tom brady was long considered one of the best. in some ways, if the reports are true, that reluctance to leave contributed to the end of his marriage. you don't wish that on anyone. >> i think of him because he is literally the only sports guy i know. >> i want to ask you, do you have a number? >> i think about this from time to time because some days -- and the truth is, i get a lot of satisfaction and gratification from my career. so i am not looking to walk away from it. in other words, i think that he was done with it. he had gotten all the gratification, this baseball player, that he could out of it. but i still get that fuzzy feeling. i don't think money can fill that void. i don't know what i would do every day. >> we don't know what we would do if you are not here. we would not survive. >> i would -- you would make cocktails.

>> it'll be good for a month. if somebody wants to give me a sabbatical -- looking at my boss. that would be great for two months. but for the rest of the time, i don't want to be on a sailboat, to be honest. that is not appeal to me. >> i think anna has a great point because when it comes to athletes, you need to have the passion. you need to love what you do. and tom brady clearly loves it. but of course, he likes making a lot of money. but it more than that, he loves the game. after doing all he did. look at the case of another great quarterback, who retired early, andrew, who went to my alma mater, stanford, was number one pick in the draft. he was a great quarterback for the cold. he looked like he was on his way to becoming a hall of famer. and it is late twenties, early 30s, he said, i've had it. i've had too many injuries. i've had enough. did not speak to the media for -- he wanted his marriage to succeed he wanted that to work, he felt being a quarterback was all encompassing.

he wasn't willing to go down that route. >> that's the road tom brady took. >> i am think about something like kobe bryant tamir, people talk about what you're next chapter. so many people who loved kobe, that next chapter was cut short. more importantly, for his family didn't get to enjoy that next chapter. in the aftermath of things like that, a lot of people looking around and saying, is it really worth it? >> i was sitting on the plane the other day behind -- he was coming back from honduras. he has a foundation where he just set up a feeding center for needy people. so, i think it's athletes like that that have that next chapter that can channel their fame into doing that i can walk away with you know to athletes the mark anthony -- we take him in a splitter back anytime the message here is

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