>> good evening, we begin tonight with the single frame of video from the war in ukraine. the vehicle, they are standing -- the captors, the stunning reality and brutality of this war. this is the image, what

you are looking at is a precise split second before a missiles exploded next to a team of workers spending to a civilian earlier this month. it may be hard to see but we have circled it in the light. the missile is circled, it is flying parallel to the ground. it is an anti tank missile which means that someone had ice on the target which is a vehicle driven by the aid workers to the left of where the muscle is about to go. the vehicle, they are standing right next to. one of the men killed as pete reed, the marine corps veteran. in january he went to work in ukraine with the aid organization, global outrage. global outreach, doctors it is called, the second of this month he was killed. tonight we also information about a systematic program around by the russian government to take ukrainian children and we educate and indoctrinate them in camps in russia in crimea. some of the kids are believed to be given weapons training and others have been sent to live with foster families or even put up for adoption in russia. there are new reports documenting a network of camps, 43 of them in all across russia occupied crimea, where thousands of ukrainian children have so far been taken against international law. there is a lot to get to tonight. we begin with the story behind the missile attack on the aid

workers, and we warn you that some of the video you will see is hard to watch. cnn's matthew chance did the reporting and he joins us now. what more can you tell us about the attack? >> an absolutely terrible attack, of course. colleagues of pete reid now saying that they believe that he was the victim of a targeted strike by russian forces. using a laser guided anti tank missile. the important thing about those kinds of weapons that they require a line of sight, so that they are very deliberate indeed. cnn has now obtained exclusive video of the actual moment that took place on february the 2nd, a short time ago. again, colleagues saying that it underlines and illustrates the despicable tactics, as they call it, being used by russia against medics in the war zone. these are the final seconds before volunteer medics in ukraine, including american pete reid, is seen here exiting the white van.

they come under vicious attack. the images obtained exclusively by cnn shows the explosion ripping through the scene, leaving reed among the dead. [crying] but incredibly, you could also hear the screams of survivors. survivors like this person, a volunteer from estonia, witnessing all of this from just a feet away. >> the last one, the second i remember, before the blast, or when the blast happened, i saw the big ball of flames. and it was like instantly my saw the darkness that could be. >> volunteer medics working in

bakhmut are no strangers to the extreme violence ravaging this city. fighting for control, making it fighting for ukraine's deadliest frontline. soldiers are dumping it a meat grinder. but the part of town where the medics were answering their emergency call on february the 2nd, seemed relatively calm. >> when you arrived at the scene where you had these reports of casualties, you saw the casualties there, was there any fighting going on, was there any artillery shells coming close by that you would have made you aware that it was a particularly dangerous spot? >> no. it was actually awfully quiet there. didn't get a warning because usually you could hear when the rounds come and you will hear the whistling noise, that determined that there is some more artillery shells coming in. there was

nothing like this. >> he catches the exact moment on his own cell phone. a frame by frame analysis shows what military experts tell cnn is an anti tank missile. striking the vehicle. the weapon requires line of sight targeting to be this accurate. minutes later, the medics dashcam records eight second strike. slow motion revealing that it is yet another anti-tank missile. >> it was observed and aimed directly, and to be sure that it is going to be a perfect hit they waited for the complete stop and after that they instantly fired. >> do you think that you were deliberately targeted by the other side? >> yes, i think that there is

not much of a debate about it. they shot two different vehicles to try to defeat another one also. so they were ready, they were prepared. >> russia has repeatedly denied deliberately targeting civilians. but over this gruesome video of the aftermath, the russian private military company, wagner, says that the volunteer medics were foreign mercenaries hit by what it calls an accurate strike. even for humanitarian volunteers in this meat grinder, protection it seems is scarce. >> it is so incredible, i wish this video, one more, time you get a sense of how quiet it was right before this. i mean, there is no indication that this is about to happen. did the rescue workers who spoke to give any more clarity about why the russians might be targeting medics in this area?

>> they did, yeah. you are right to point out how quiet it is. and i have been there myself, and it is extremely noisy when there is fighting going on. so it really is striking the silence that you can hear in the background there. in terms of why they would have been targeted, what the medics say is that the russians know very well that these volunteers from the united states, from other countries are doing enormous amounts of good to the civilian population inside these areas. sometimes they are the only medical presence on the ground. and the russians, they say, are determined to stop that. to

take that away, to deter these people from going to the front lines. the medic i spoke to in that report said for his part it is not going to work. he is determined to go back and he says that he will be back near the front lines in just a couple of weeks, anderson. >> wow. i just want to show the image again, when you see the missile, i have never seen an image like this. it took me awhile to actually even see the missile once i realized it was parallel to the ground you could also see where mr. reed and the others were. the van that they were in, the medics were in, i know the van that the man who pulled up from, who took the video was, and what was clearly marked. did the van that mr. reed was in, was that marked out all as a medic span? >> it doesn't seem to be, does it. it seems to be a white, civilian van. understand that it is converted into an ambulance but it does not have the big red crosses on it that you might expect. in that kind of location. look, what the medics say is that there is no way that this could have been mistaken for anything other

than an ambulance. simply because these medical teams, pete reed included, had been working in bakhmut for months upon months and the russians knew very well what they were doing, what these medical volunteers, the kind of action that they have been in, and the way that they were. they say that there is no way this could have been mistaken for anything military at all, which again, underlines for this idea that they were washed and then targeted by russian forces. >> as you said, they try to get another vehicle as well with another missile. matthew, appreciate the report, thank you. now that you report which is going to uncover the extent to which moscow is conducting the extensive campaign to take ukrainian children to russian sometimes even giving the military training to forcibly adopt them. authors had constitute war crimes, possibly even evidence of genocide, the report was produced by the yale humanitarian resource lab as part of a state department program for gathering evidence of russian war crimes. it

identifies 43 facilities that are part of a network stretching from the black sea to siberia. the primary purpose appears to be political reeducation. daniel raman as a humanitarian research lab executive director and oversaw the report. >> nathaniel, i saw that you called this an amber alert for ukraine's children. could you explain what you mean? >> anderson, what i mean is that while we know now that these 6000 children have been through the system, we think the numbers are actually far larger. we are basically dealing with the largest network of children's camps, seen in the 21st century that stretches from the black sea all the way to the eastern pacific coast, about 1300 miles from alaska. in these 43 facilities we have four-month-old all the way to 17 year olds. many of which have not been able to contact their parents and months.

>> how is this organized who is in charge of this, and how high up does it go in russia? >> this goes all the way to the kremlin. the leader of the program is a woman known as maria, who is under u. s. sanctions. she is the child's rights commissioner for russia. what we identify in this report is 12 individuals, some of which are reporting directly to her that are not under u. s. sanctions yet. or international sanctions, including four regional governors. this is very important. russia is running what could be described as a twisted sister city's program, where communities in russia are sponsoring communities in ukraine on an individual town by town basis to bring those children into russia for reeducation purposes, including military training in two instances. >> in some instances they are

actually giving children, teenagers, military training and they are doing reeducation in the sense of russian focused reeducation, they are trying to make them into russians, is that right? >> yes. it does constitute a potential crime against humanity and violation of the 1998 rome statute in the -- it is illegal under international law, even temporarily, to transfer one group of children to another group for purposes of erasing national identity and ethnicity. that was actually the first trial held against the nazism. >> the government seems proud of this. it is not as if they are doing all of this in secret. they are embracing the says a national project, it seems. >> 100%. the primary audience

here for what is dubbed the humanitarian project is described as a performance for russia's domestic citizenry. at the end of the day, this is part of an effort to re-brand the invasion. but what is clear is that it is a violation of the conventions, we are basically talking about thousands of children that are in a hostage situation, where they could be used as a bargaining chip in any future prisoner exchange with the ukrainians. and first and foremost, the russians have an obligation under geneva conduct prevention to move to a third party country, not to russia. that right there no matter how long they are staying makes it a war crime. >> correct me if i'm wrong, some of them who may have parents are labeled orphans and are being adopted into russian families or fostered by russian families. >> we found two locations including a 70 out truck hospital, and what the russians call the family center in moscow, where infants and

toddlers are being adopted and fostered by russian families. after the invasion, putin and the kremlin changed rushes adoption law to allow for the first time adoption of ukrainians. additionally, they added a 200 dollar a month bonus in basically russia's social security system to encourage adoption so at the end of the day our number one information source is the statement of russia's own officials as they are promoting the program and speaking about it as something that they were proud of. >> this is truly sickening, this is sick. >> i have been a war crimes investigator for 24 years and i have worked on everything from torture to large-scale massacres. this has been one of the hardest reports that i have worked on because i am watching a disaster that is a human rights emergency that is going to radiate for decades for these children. it is happening, and so far, there is little we can do about it. >> what can be done? >> well, we have submitted a report to the u. s. department

of state. they are reviewing the information in the report to see if there are steps such as sanctions or other efforts that the u. s. can do against these specific individuals in this program and we will see what the u. s. government does. i think that there are four things that can be done, anderson. first, and most critically is registration. going back to bosnia, many recent conflicts, having a clear internationally monitored registration system is the first up to reuniting families. second, communication. the phones of these children when they have not been taken in many cases, they are reestablishing means for them to call home. call mom, call dad, it is a critical first up. and we need international monitors and there from the united nations and other international government organizations because right now it is only russia's word. that is not good enough. fourth, and finally, there needs to be a

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so every day, you can say... ♪ youuu did it! ♪ with centrum silver. >> two pieces of breaking news tonight, and the special counsel with jack smith's investigation, one speaks the number of court battles he has been able to wage to get what he wants. the other concern is who he wants to talk to now. mark meadows, a former white house chief of staff, someone as close as anyone was to the former president in and around january 6th, cnn's kaitlan collins with the reporting on this joins us now as well as cnn political commentator alyssa farah griffin whose director communications and the former president, and legal analyst and former deputy attorney general, what are you doing? >> the subpoena came from the special counsel's office, jack smith. it was told in january, and basically what they want for mark meadows's testimony and documents related to january 6th. jack smith is investigating two things at once. one, because for documents taken from mar-a-lago but also trump's actions leading up to and on january 6th and obviously mark meadows

is one of his most senior aides of not his most senior aide that day who was in and out of the oval office as we have talked about. so he is someone who would obviously have good insight into what trump was doing that day but obviously this is likely to set up a very big fight over executive privilege as you have seen other subpoenas that we have seen from the special counsel only recently, the former vice president has said that he's going to fight it. >> mark meadows must know as much as anybody knows. >> i would say that he's launching targeting the investigation as he is a witness and going after the former president and the final stretch leading up to january six he was you know, uniquely involved in everything from false electors to the pressure campaign against mike pence to the actual organization of the ellipse rally so he is a wealth of information of what i would imagine the special counsel wants to look at but also i anticipate that he will do one of two things, he will either outright try to contest it on

the grounds of executive privilege or he may faux cooperate on small details that will ultimately invoke -- >> which is what he did with the january 6th committee. >> i think this warns a bigger conversation about should electioneering be covered by executive privilege? this was purely a campaign manner, it was about the election, not the deliberations of the president around policymaking. >> he's calling the secretary of state in georgia he set up the call with brad raffensperger and went down there on the election site in georgia. he was deeply involved in that aspect. >> he says that he's fighting a subpoena from the justice department on the separation grounds, what about meadows? is there a legal basis to defy the subpoena, especially if he is also not just a witness but a potential subject of a criminal investigation? >> there are a few questions and there are a number one it is harder to see how he is a subject or in the investigation

now. the justice department tends to not compel people to testify that they are going to go on with the crime. here's a problem with doing so. what you have done is force him to testify against his wishes. it is really hard to then charge him with a crime after that because he already had testimony from him. we do not make people testify against themselves. it is a little tricky. now with respect to executive privilege we should talk about what we mean and what that is. we expect as a country that the president of the united states is entitled to a measure of protection for the conversations that he has with his senior staff. that is not a bad thing. but that cannot extend wrongdoing or concealing crimes of the president were to say to his chief of staff, let's go rob a bank tomorrow, no one and no court would ever say that that statement ought to be protected. meadows will i think likely try to challenge this on executive privilege grounds, some of the conversations that

he had with the president might be protected. but if we are talking about possible criminal wrongdoing of the president or someone around him it is going to be really hard to not how some of those statements be brought into court. >> this may be a dumb question but if he had been a potential target is it possible that they made a deal with him in order to not be a target, in order to become a witness? >> it is absolutely possible and it does happen frequently where someone may be investigated by the justice department, or any law enforcement entity and they say look, we will not charged with the crime if you come in and testify. maybe that happened, it is just hard to know when you don't have enough information to suggest that but it absolutely did happen across the world of prosecution all the time. >> there have been a lot of talk about whether there were questions raised while ago but whether he was somehow cooperating? >> we do not know actually if he is negotiating with the justice department on this or if he is cooperating. we reached out to his attorneys and they did not comment and neither did the doj. but there has been a breakdown in communication between his attorney and the trump attorneys. they are not

communicating or talking. that doesn't mean anything but it could be an indication. he's also tried to fight subpoenas before based on this. the georgia grand jury he tried to fight it saying that he had executive privilege. it was, the supreme court of south carolina decided against that and decided that he did have to testify in that. so we will see what he actually is doing in this. it does speak to the level of how aggressive he is being with all of these subpoenas. >> there is also a report about the sheer number of cases that the special counsel's fighting. i mean, it is kind of extraordinary to the lengths to which they are going. you think that it has to do with the 2020 election? the 2020 election or the classified documents? >> i think that is the magic question right now because i think that there was a sense maybe several months ago that trump's undoing and the real target of doj was going to be the classified documents. i

think that in some ways, there are two parallel investigations into biden and trump. they are separate. but i think the momentum behind that may have shifted when it came to light that many former presidents and vice presidents of classified documents. i think there was a bit of a sense that there was a sleepiness on january 6th and this puts new life into it. probably the seniormost person other than the third most senior after the president, the vice president who also was subpoenaed shows that the special counsel is looking into january 6th, and this was an extraordinary, historic moment that took place in the actions leading up to it. it calls for extraordinary measures. but it is an uphill battle. most of the potential witnesses are going to fight it. >> that is fair. thank you so much. we appreciate it. coming up next, be a pouring in michigan state, how people are remembering the three students killed by a mass shooter and how they are working with the wake of it. and in a buffalo courtroom, families can from the man on sentencing day for the supermarket deaths. we will be right back. >> interesting piece. let me bring in my expert. mmm so many scratches...

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>> two communities tonight dealing with the thoughts and feelings from the americans who have now gone through mass shootings. and michigan on the campus of michigan state, people had a candlelight vigil for the three students were there this week. governor, gretchen whitmer, spoke about the action to take action against gun violence. she wrote -- and her high school yearbook. today may be hard, she wrote, but tomorrow will be

better. in buffalo, motion spilled over as people who lost loved ones at the top's grocery mass murder made their voices heard at a sentencing hearing for the man who killed ten people close to them. cnn's omar jimenez has more. >> i am masks a stir. you killed my sister. >> sentencing day for a shooter became families processing pain that they have carried with them for almost a year. kathryn massie was 72 years old. >> you decided to come and kill my sister! >> her sister, barbara, making sure the shooter knew who he killed. >> she was a saint among senators. you don't come to our city and decide that you don't like black people. you don't know anything about black people. we are human! we like our kids to go to good schools, we love our kids, we never go

to those neighborhoods and take people out of them. >> barbara's son lunged in. family after family, pulling no punches. >> you journey down my grandmother's street, and wound up at tops until two of my family members. i want you to think about this every day of your life. every day of your life, think about my family, and the other nine families that you have destroyed forever. forever. may 14th will never be the same for me. >> it was not just a motions, it was reliving may 14th, 2022, all over again. the shooter walked into a top supermarket in buffalo and killed ten, wounding three others with the express intent of killing black people. in court, the shooter apologized, but it did not seem to have any impact. >> how can you possibly get any kind of -- how could you possibly stand up here and say

that you are sorry. the hatred that you must have in your heart for black people, i would never understand. i don't want to understand. but i must say this, i pray to god they do not kill you. >> if you do not know god, i invite you to find him, because you are going to need him. >> he was sentenced to life in prison. the judge, leaving no room for interpretation. >> there could be no mercy for you. no understanding. no second chances. the damage you have caused is too great, and the people you have hurt are too valuable to this community. you will never see the light of day as a free man ever again. >> after court, the families hope their message was more clear than the sentence could ever be. >> yeah, somebody rushed him in the courtroom, but that is the emotion that all of these

families feel on the inside. i feel like that every single day. we all feel like that every single day. i was happy to see him scared today. he should be able to feel what those families felt that day when he pointed that gun in their faces. >> and omar joins us. there is still federal hate crime charges and also weapon charges, gets that right? >> at the federal level among them, ten counts of hate crime resulting in death. what is significant about those is that these are federal charges that could carry the potential for the death penalty. the attorney general, merrick garland, has yet to make a decision on that type of pursuit. but back in december the shooter's attorneys said that they would plead guilty if it meant that the death penalty, or the possible death penalty would be taken off the table. it led some to believe, including the

local da today that the apology we heard in court may have been to try to wiggle away from that possibility, whether it was actually authentically apology, or as many of these families believed, that it wasn't. >> i appreciate it, thank you. up next, pivotal day in court and the double murder trial of alec murdaugh. jurors directly asking murdaugh if he killed his wife and son. details of that, next. ♪ ♪ engineered to elevate the senses - touch, sight, sound, and scent. it's the electric that recharges you. the all new, all electric eqe sedan from mercedes-benz. see your dealer for exceptional offers on mercedes-benz electric vehicles. ♪ hey dad, i'm almost out. i got you.

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>> pivotal day the double murder trial of disgraced former attorney, alec murdoch. he is accused of killing his wife and son of covering up financial crimes. they saw footage from an interview that murdaugh had with the lead investigator, which is the southern california long enforcement division just a couple months after the murders. and it, the investigator tells murdaugh that he is the focus of the investigation. randi kaye has details. >> did you kill maggie? >> no. >> did you kill paul? >> i did not kill paul. >> this is the first time that we hear lead investigator, david owen, ask adam murdoch directly whether he killed his wife, maggie murdaugh, and her son paul. >> do you know who did this? >> i do not know who did. >> special agent oh and had a lot more questions for him as well, including why he was wearing something different after the murders and he was earlier in the night on this snapchat video pulled from his son's phone.

>> when did you change clothes? >> i'm not sure -- you know, i guess i changed when i got back to the house. >> the prosecution has suggested that murdaugh sat showered and changed his clothes following the murder. the defense pushed back on that. >> when do you expect to find some trace evidence of blood somewhere? in the house? >> there was no trace evidence of blood found in the house, no. >> thank you. >> alex murdaugh told investigators several times that on the night of the murders he had dinner with his family and then took a nap and later drove to his mother's house. >> how long would you say that you are at your moms? >> 45 minutes, an hour. >> 45 minutes to an hour? remember, his mother's

caretaker testified that murdaugh came by the house for just 15 to 20 minutes that night. at least four times during this interview, owen asked murdaugh if he was at the candles where the murders took place early that night. before he says that he found his family did. each time, he denied being there. >> you didn't go down there after dinner? after visiting your mother? >> yes, sir. >> owen also asked murdaugh if it was his voice on a video investigators extracted from paul murdoch's phone. it had been recorded at the murder scene at 8:44 pm, just a few minutes before paul and maggie were killed. >> that was prior -- >> no sir. not of my times are right. >> at least eight witnesses have testified that it is alex murdaugh's voice on the recording. he also had questions for owen during the interview. >> can you tell me for sure -- [inaudible] is this one person, two persons, three persons? >> it's not the first time?

>> yes sir. >> ever? >> that i recall, yes. >> and the whole investigation? >> yes sir. >> just before the interview ended, oh and made it clear to murdaugh that investigators are focused on him and only him. >> do you think that i killed maggie? >> i have to go where the evidence -- >> i have to go with the evidence and the fact statement. i don't have anything that points me there at this point. >> what else stood out to you in the interview with murdaugh that was played in court today? it is fascinating to hear the investigator admit that he is the suspect. >> absolutely. we hadn't heard that before. but there was a very key moment when the investigator told alex murdoch

that he had already determined that a family-owned weapon was used in the murders, and he really had no reaction to this. he didn't ask, how do you know that, or where is the weapon now. he also told the investigator that maggie murdaugh had wanted to come to the house that night, but her sister had testified that maggie told her that alec had asked her to come along with her son, paul. there is a very disturbing moment where alex asked how far apart maggie and paul were when they were shot and if one knew the other was dead, of course the killer would likely know that information, the investigator did not have an answer for him. >> randi kaye, appreciate it. ten days after the devastating earthquake rescuers are still pulling survival's from the rubble in turkey. we still have an elderly woman and a family we want to tell you about next. plus, doctor sanjay gupta shows us the devastation from the air.

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>> almost ten four days after the earthquake that hit turkey and syria, rescuers say they pulled out a 74-year-old woman. her name is jamilah catch. we don't know much more than, that other than she was immediately transfer to the hospital. also today, a mom and her two

children amazingly rippled from the rubble. her name is ella. her children are mason and ali -- we do not know their ages. we do know one ella, the, mom was pulled from the rubble. her first question was, what days. it i'm joined now from cnn's chief medical correspondent, sanjay gupta, who's in turkey observing how they are trying to keep survive alive. sanjay, what did you see today? >> anderson, the stories are really remarkable. you may remember we were in haiti together we would hear about some of these -- even this many days out. i can tell you the mode is very much still rescue and relief. that's the tone that you feel. some of these places in this mountainous area of the world, they are hard to access. they were already hard to access and even harder given all that happens. in order to get to, people and provide that relief, they have to take to the skies. >> the skies over turkey or kingston -- continuously pierce. but the sound of helicopter planes. still performing crucial search and rescue. but also delivering people and goods to place is hard to access. and now, near isolated from the

rest of the world. like, and top eta in hatay province. look with the earthquake date in just minutes here. so many buildings razed to the ground. more than a day later, too many people still going without even basic supplies. >> donations continue to pour in from all over the world, to give you an idea, they have things like baby formula, these are safety hard hat over here. these are the types of things coming in. over here you have bread. so they have all sorts of dried foods that are coming in. these are donations that are coming in from individuals. things like blanket and warm clothes. and just as far as the eye can see, there's all sorts of supplies that are now trying to get from this airstrip to the people who desperately need them. over and over again, spontaneous supply lines like this one form. and within minutes, dozens and dozens of tents are loaded

under the helicopter. today's mission, to provide cover and protection in hatay. a province that has lost both. from the sky, it is easy to see why they are so necessary. a group of men can be seen waiting earnestly for the temporary new homes. they quickly unload the helicopters, struggling against the were of the blades, which never stop. >> they've just unloaded the tense here in hatay. this is one of the hardest hit areas in the quake zone. off in the distance, a floating hospital. a near necessity after natural disasters like this. after all, as with most of the buildings, the hospitals often do not survive either. these hospital ship provide immediate beds and operating rooms, like this one, with 37 -year-old mehmet receive an operation on his leg after falling to stories during the earthquake. >> even a ramp maternity ward, yes, tragically more than 40,000 people have died. but there's also been new life

here. a beautiful baby girl. another benefit the captain tells me, unlike the field hospitals, on firm ground, these hospitals ships in the water are relatively protected from the numerous aftershocks that continuously devastated the land. for now, the ground is quiet. but the skies are loud. and that is good. as this part of the world slowly, surely finds its footing. >> sanjay, we've seen the hospital ship before. i remember you are on one in the aftermath of the earthquake in haiti. how effective are they? >> they are really effective, anderson. if you think about, it the hospital there just as vulnerable as all the other buildings in the quake zone. so the hospitals, and some, way become their own patients. so bringing in a ship with all of those resources is

critically important. and i saw that haiti -- it was u.s. -- to bring me out to perform surgery on a little girl named kimberly. what struck me was today, talking to the captain, there's all of these aftershocks. and you put in a field hospital, they can be vulnerable to the aftershock. it's something they have to anticipate, it with the ship in the water there's somewhat buffered. >> sanjay, thank you very much. i'm glad to. there will be right back.

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but said the real winners california's public schools, which will receive more than $150 million and supplemental finds. another record breaking total. joining me now is harry enten. how much food can won by with a billion dollars? >> okay, i've said it up in three different levels. okay? let's say you want to go to the most expensive restaurant in the entire world. you can by about 400,000 meals. let's say you want to go expensive but not too expensive, you can go to -- >> boston. market >> we're gonna go to boston market soon. we're gonna get routes chris. great restaurant. you can get about 7 million tomahawk stakes. or you can go to one of your personal favorite, and, mine boston market. >> are there any left? >> not in manhattan. but there are in queens. so we can go there. and we can buy 77 million whole chickens. isabelle 12 99 per whole trickle.

>> i like the turkey male better. >> i like the turkey meal. i like the chicken, the two sides of that. cream spinach. how about the corn bread? >> i love corn bread. the cream corn is good. anyway. >> the cream corn? >> i think the winner was wise not to show up. and his name is edwin castro -- it's probably hard to track him down. >> my new best friend. >> how does he stack up against the rich people the world? >> i think it gives you an idea -- >> so he gets a billion dollars to handing him a billion? >> they're heading in the. billion-plus attack. so it's closer to 600 million, somewhere near there. still a large sum of money. but i think if you can compare to some of the richest folks in the world, their net worth, it gives you an idea that this is a lot of money. but not anywhere close to the riches. go to bernard are no, the richest man in the world. louis vuitton, a personal favorite of mine. not really. michael jordan is a little bit closer. but bernard are no, he's about 216 billion dollars worth -- in that neighborhood. and you look at someone like

michael jordan, he's worth a little bit less than two billion dollars. essentially, you'd have to win at the powerball twice to get to the level of michael jordan. you have to win about 200 times to get to the level of our no. with >> inflation taking that into account, how much have these things change? >> i think we can have two different baselines here. first, let's use the year you were born. how much was a billion dollars today worth when you were born? it's closer to about 100 million -- billion dollars. that's how much inflation is taken things. how about joe biden, who was born in 1942? that now, ability to days worth only about 50 million back when joe biden was born. it's about 20 times. it's incredible how much inflation is. a centrally -- >> it's a little confusing to me. >> basically the idea is, if you are kid and had a billion dollars, today a billion dollars worth a lot, but not anywhere near.

that >> so $56 million when joe biden was born, that's the equivalent of ability today. >> correct. and about 100 million when you were born is about a billion today. >> fascinating. >> inflation really have a whole. >> is it wise to take the lump sum. >> absolutely. you can invest in different ways. if you're gonna invest, there you can invest in different ways. it depends how much inflation. >> if you're gonna grow crazy implode, all is not a good idea. >> it depends how good you are within. money ask of self that question. >> news continues, erin burnett outfront starts next. >> out front next, breaking news on multiple fronts -- -- exclusively -- doj. meadows, one of the highest ranking trump aides to be subpoenaed. this is the trump special counsel we are learning is locked in multiple court battles. the details next. and a battle brewing in texas tonight after university professors were asked to give a statement on their commitment to diversity. -- it's a statement story you will