one near pair ris tennessee. one north of memphis. the storms have now pulled away. but tornado watches in effect and i expect more to be posted today. this may be a 1:00, 2:00, 3:00 afternoon storm where we start to see the warm-up. but the potential from columbus down to the gulf coast typical of s of spring except for the part to the north that will be seeing snow. this is where we're focusing here, down across the deep south where the storms will be the strongest. some of them will spin which means some may have tornadoes. >> all right. thanks, nice to see you. and thanks for joining me. "cnn this morning" begins right now.

wow. >> you know what? they're angry. they every right to be angry. they're not getting a lot of answers. their health, lives are in jeopardy. good morning, everyone. good to have you back. >> good to be back. i missed you guys. >> we know. we like having the threesome back. >> she didn't miss us. >> of course i missed you. >> we have outrage growing in ohio after a toxic train crash. families demanding to know if their own homes are safe. we take you to east palestine. >> plus, a cnn exclusive this morning. the special counsel investigating former president trump subpoenaed his former white house chief of staff mark meadows. we'll tell you why he could be a crucial witness. >> and a blackhawk helicopter

fell from the sky and crashed in the middle of a alabama highway. what we're learning about the tragic training flight two killed two national guardsmen. >> we begin in east palestine, ohio. there are reports of fish and animals dying. air smells like chemicals. residents demanding answers after a train loaded with toxic chemicals derailed and burned in their town. there was a heated town hall meeting last night. families wanted to know, can they drink the watter? can they breathe the air? can they even live in their own homes anymore or will they get cancer. people say their pets are becoming sick and there is a stench that residence say smells like burning plastic and nail polish remover. jason carroll was there and he joins us now. jason, hello to you. they have a reason to be concerned. this train was carrying vinyl chloride socialed with liver,

brain, and lung cancers. >> yeah. i mean, we heard all the concerns last night. there are a lot of them. one of the main concerns that a lot of folks talked about, don, was will there be long term health monitoring for the people who live in the affected area? who's going pay for that and for how long? >> those left with a feeling of like this is something that is going to take more than one town hall to make sure that all their questions are answered. >> everybody that came here, we expect a hell of a lot more. >> reporter: frustration, anger, and unanswered questions in east palestine, ohio. >> my kids sake, the people's sake, the future of this community. >> the mayor leading the meeting at times speaking through a bullhorn to answer questions from distressed residence still wore yud ab

worried about returning to their homes. >> so far they worked with us and they're fixing it. but if that stops, i guarantee you i will be the first one in line to fight that. >> reporter: officials trying to answer the community's questions. >> it has been determined by experts based on previous incidents -- [ inaudible ] >> residence are demanding more testing of water, air, and soil. >> we won't let them stop the testing until you're satisfied. that's when the testing stops. >> not present at this community meeting, norfolk southern railroad. >> norfolk southern didn't show up. they didn't feel it was safe. >> in the 11th hour, the company that owned the train that derailed said unfortunately after consulting with community leaders, we have become

increasingly concerned about the growing physical threat to our employees. >> okay. well if you're afraid that somebody from palestine is going to hurt your employees, what exactly did you do to us? >> you feel the anger and frustration. >> i'm scared. for my family. i'm scared for my town. i grew up here. i'm related to 50% of them. >> reporter: cleanup efforts are under way. the governor telling residence wednesday the water is safe to drink. his statement comes after new test results from the state environmental protection agency found no detection of contaminants. officials say the toxic spill was largely contained the day after the derailment and that tests have shown the air quality is safe. they are still suggesting those with private wells get their water tested. >> i need help. i'll do whatever it takes, whatever it takes to make this

right. >> and, don, later today the head of the epa will be on the ground. he is heading in from washington, d.c. he's going to be meeting with state and local leaders. you'll be hearing from residence as well. don? >> we'll be watching, jason. thank you very much. and in our 8:00 hour, we're going to speak to a mom who attended that town hall. we'll find out how she and her young daughter are feeling physically and motionally. as we wait for that, we move to a cnn exclusive. a source tells me that donald trump's former chief of staff mark meadows has been subpoenaed in the special counsel's investigation into january 6. i'm told the special counsel jack smith is seeking both testimony and documents from mark meadows who received the subpoena last month. this is smith's latest significant and impressive move. it matters because meadows has firsthand knowledge of trump's actions on several fronts. he was in and out of the oval office on january 6 as rioters storming the capitol. he was also on the phone call

between trump and georgia secretary of state. remember, trump wanted him to find more votes. meadows was also in that bananas white house meeting with sidney powell and others about election fraud claims. meadows also visited a georgia audit site at that time. he sent e-mails to the justice department and officials there about unsubstantiated fraud claims. his attorney and justice department are not commenting about the subpoena. we don't know how he'll respond. it could set up a clash over executive privilege. meadows got the subpoena before mike pence did and he overnight vowing to fight that one. >> i'm going fight. for me to appear before the grand jury. because i believe it's unconstitutional ands unprecedented. i'm aware that president trump is going to bring a claim of executive privilege. that will be his claim to make. that's his fight.

my fight is on the principle of separation of powers and the constitution of the united states. >> a lot of developments overnight. paula reid joins me now from washington. paula, i think we'll start with hearing from pence. he is saying he's arguing something differently than what he xpen he expects trump to argue. >> this is a novel legal theory. he is saying that as position of the senate, he is part of the legislative branch and therefore protected from a justice department subpoena under the speech and debate clause. usually this appears -- applies to lawmakers, potentially staff. courts have taken a broad view of this. he is really playing at the edges of. this i will note that when trying to avoid testify ing before the january 6 committee, he said he was part of the executive branch and should not be compelled by congress to testify. he is persistent in the

constitutional arguments. he has not been very consistent. >> we'll wait to see how that plays out. jack smith has been very busy. we're learning that he locked in eight secret court battles. what do we know about these? >> kaitlan, the number of challenges that smith is facing from witnesses is truly extraordinary. it's a reminder of how former president trump and his associates tend to handle legal proceedings which is to fight, delay, fight, delay. and here these secret court battles, the way they pan out will really dictate a lot in terms of executive privilege and the future of the separation of powers. there is a really interesting constitutional question here but also a important reminder that even though people see subpoenas for meadows or pence and think the special counsel investigation is wrapping up, the fact is there is a long road ahead. a lot of questions that still need to be litigated before all of this can be resolved and the special counsel can make an ultimate charging decision. >> he's clearly been very busy.

paula, you have been very busy. he broke reporting overnight when it comes to biden's classified documents. what have you learned? >> that's right. we learned that the fbi has conducted two searches at the university of delaware in connection with the investigation into the handling of classified documents at these multiple locations connected to president biden. we learned that the two searches were conducted on two different days and they looked at two different sets of documents. the first is the senate archive. we know the president donated many pauperspers to the universf delaware. we were told the searches were conducted with consent and cooperation of biden's legal team and the fbi did retrieve some documents that none of them appear to have classified markings. they're still in the process of reviewing exactly what it is that they obtained. this is the fourth known location to be searched in connection with this on going investigation. >> all right. paula reid, great reporting. thank you for joining us this

morning. also today, possibly the next couple of hours, a judge in fulton county, georgia, is going to release a partial report from the special grand jury there investigating trump's actions after the 2020 election. georgia was at the center of that. we'll bring you the new developments as they come. >> also this morning, police are expected to hold a briefing on the mush misch state university mass shooting as we learn that gunman had a two page note in his pocket with a very chilling message and a list of targets. thousands of people gathered to mourn the victims ariel anderson, brian frasier and alexandria verner. there was grief and words of encouragement and calls for action. our reporter joins us with more in east lansing, michigan. no one believes it can come to them, adrien, until it does. i wonder what you're hearing this morning. >> this morning people are

finally saying they were final able to connect. the vigil was held here and for some the first time they returned to campus since that monday night shooting. the stage where the vigil took place, so to speak, is about 250 yards from here. the sidewalk was overflowing with people from the community, students, faculty and staff. if anyone tried to drive around town and get through this area, it would have been impossible. behind us there is the rock which is a popular symbol here on campus. it's painted white and the color of the rock changes frequently. and it holds a message that says always a spartan. below it, the names of the three killed. and nearby, three crosses with a heart bearing their names. spartans are known for their loud voices. but everyone we spoke with last night barely spoke above a whisper as they describe what

they feel. >> i'm recovery alcoholic, addict. experiencing that night was not easy given that a lot of intense emotions almost brought me to the brink of relapse. it is not easy to walk through campus knowing our community is bearing that trauma from monday night. and i have to literally walk around with my sobriety coin reading the prayer on the back of the coin. >> are you going to come back to school moving forward? >> yes, i will come back to school. this is something that you're never going to forget. it's going to be in the back of your mind msu is home. to have your home invaded is hard for everyone on campus. >> poppy, a strong display of vulnerability as well as strength. >> there is this police briefing

coming up to day. there are so many questions about the guns, how they were obtained, the shooter, any connection to the university which they don't believe that he had. i just wonder what the biggest questions are that people have posed to you about what they hope police can shed light on. >> some people that we heard from are accepting that they may never know why. if there is a way for them to know why, that's one thing they want to know. they also want to know how that 43-year-old shooter obtained the gun. they're also questioning should he have been in possession of a gun? these are all questions that goes through the minds of people who have lived through mass shootings. it almost seems to be the same questions whenever we cover these stories. but we'll hear more from authorities in about four hours. >> we'll carry that here. thank you very much for that reporting. and this morning two tennessee national guardsmen were killed after their blackhawk helicopter crashed

during a training flight. it went down wednesday on a highway in northern alabama. look at that video. goodness. we have a reporter live from there. >> it is frightening. witnesses there on the ground described quite a shocking scene over the skies of northern alabama. we don't know a lot right now. we're still working to get details on what exactly led up to this deadly blackhawk helicopter crash and more on the two tennessee national guardsmen killed in this incident. this happened during a training flight. >> reporter: video capturing the moment when a tennessee national guard blackhawk helicopter crashes near a highway in northern alabama wednesday. >> it is loud. it didn't sound like a normal, i guess, motor or engine. >> reporter: followed by a plume of smoke coming up over the trees. >> looking out of binoculars, and seeing what i saw, i can't do anything but pray.

>> what was that noise? >> reporter: the two guardsmen on the helicopter were killed. in a press release, the tennessee national guard confirmed the helicopter involved a uh 60 blackhawk out on a training flight and saying, "we are deeply saddened by the loss of two tennessee national guardsmen and our prayers are with their families during this heartbreaking tragedy." the crash occurred wednesday around 3:00 p.m. on the highway of 55 near huntsville, alabama. first responders arrived at the scene where the helicopter was fully engulfed in flames and thick black smoke coming from the site. federal and local authorities are investigating the crash and no other service members railroad civilians were injured in the incident. governors of both tennessee and alabama offering their condolences. tennessee governor phil lee saying please join us in lifting their families up in prayer and support during this time of

unspeakable grief. and alabama governor saying the guardsmen will be remembered as heroes and the people of alabama stand with our neighbors in tennessee. and first responders said when they got on scene the helicopter was fully engulfed in flames. it had completely burned down. that's why it was so difficult to identify it and took some time, took quite a while, for officials to figure out who owned this blackhawk helicopter. if you look at the pictures, it is remarkable that no one else was injured there on the ground. don? >> amazing. and caught on video. like a ring doorbell. thank you, amara walker, appreciate it. all right. also this morning, fresh off her presidential announcement, nikki haley has a new idea. she thinks politician officials a certain age should take a mental competency test. so what age sbrabracket is she talking about? is this the kind of test she means? >> person, woman, man, camera,

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what's your message to democrats like you, who like what you've done but are concerned about your age and the demands of the job? >> well, they're concerned about whether or not i'm getting anything done. look what i got done. i think it's a legitimate thing to be concerned. but anyone's age, including mine. i think that is totally legitimate. i respect the fact that people would say, you know, you're old. i think it relates to how much energy you have and whether or not the job you're doing is consistent with what any person of any age would be able to do. >> the oldest president in u.s. history, president biden, had to address his 80 trips around the sun over and over again in interviews.

but aides say he hates when people talk about his age. many people don't like to talk about it. cnn told it is, quote, omnipresent in every conversation about the president. he is going to get his physical and focusing on his age. it is likely the last exam he will have before he launches a bid for re-election. many democrats say he'll be running against his age in part until a republican nominee is chosen. in fact, one central message and new republican candidate nikki haley's campaign is that the u.s. needs younger leadership. >> in the america i see, the permanent politician will finally retire. we'll have term limits for congress. and mandatory mental competency tests for politicians over 75

years old. >> you've been doing reporting on president biden, what his advisors are saying. one notable quote that stood fr out, i do wish he was ten years younger? yeah, so does he. >> that's right. that donor went ton say that other than his age, there is no issue that donor could see with why he shouldn't run for re-election. that's where this conversation really is. a lot of people feeling pretty good about joe biden's record. if they're democrats at this point, feeling like they have a strong case to make going into a re-election campaign. at the same time, knowing his age is going to be a factor. it's going to be a factor in people's minds. you have mitch landrieu, the coordinator for the white house saying to mabz recently, yeah, the president's age is something people want to talk about. but there are much more important numbers they should be talking about like covid shots, the unemployment rate, jobs

created. that's where they want the focus to be going into what looks like a re-election campaign coming soon. >> yeah. it's a natural question that people have. you're also reporting about some democrats who are talking and preparing for a contingency plan in it case there is this anomaly and biden decides he's not running. what would that even look like? >> nobody really knows. it would be a very unusual circumstance. at this point in a presidential cycle, we are used to candidates starting to get ready if they're going to run. we are now expecting president biden will run for reelection. ther -- re-election. there are some democrats saying, look, things could change quickly. he could change his mind. there could, given his age, be a health issue. how do we get ready but how do we get ready without seeming like we're trying to scratch at a place and things and being disloyal? it's very quietly happening among some advisors, around some

democrats who think that maybe they could be on that list. >> yeah. delicate conversation to say the least. isaac, great reporting, thank you. >> thank you. >> notice nikki haley when she said that. she said 75 and up. so that would include trump. >> elder statesmen here? >> this whole talk about age makes me uncomfortable. i think it's the wrong road to go down. she says people, you know, politicians are something not in their prime. nikki haley is not in her prime. a woman is in their prime in 20s and 30s and maybe 40s. >> wait. >> that's not according to me. >> prime for what? >> depends on, just like prime. if you look it up. if you google when is a woman in her prime, it says 20s, 30s, 40s. >> oh, my god. >> i'm not saying i agree with that. i think she has to be careful about saying that, you know, politicians are in their prime. >> are you talking about prime for child bearing or are you

talking about prime for being president? >> i'm saying the facts. google it. everybody at home, swwhen is a woman in her prime. i'm saying she should say that politicians are not in their prime and when they need to be in prime when they serve. she would not be in her prime according to -- >> google. >> or whatever it s look, you have to be careful. older people vote. older people watch linear television. right? so she needs to be careful about turning off a certain constituency who may be her stronger set of supporters. >> more younger people vote than older people. >> remember how we talked about how young pete buttigieg was? i think it's a fair thing. voters have real concern about biden's age and trump's age. >> he said. that president biden said over and over and over that, again, yeah, you should be concerned about my age. he actually brought it up. but it makes me uncomfortable when people try to use that as a

wedge issue. my mom is at 80 years old, i just gave her a surprise birthday party. >> 80 years young. >> sharp, sharp, sharp. is she physically strong as she once was? no. but mentally, she is sharp. could she run the country? i guess she could. it depends on the individual. >> having covered the trump white house and then the biden white house, do you think -- part of isaac's reporting that is interesting is about how much he'll be able to travel and endure the flights cross country. >> campaign. >> do you think this campaign, if he runs, is going to look different? >> yep. >> more at the white house? >> and that's not my opinion. that's what i heard from people inside the white house and allies of biden who think, you know, a campaign is incredibly aggressive. it is really tough. when trump was at the end of his campaign, he would do two or three rallies a day. biden's was different because he was taking the covid precautions more seriously. he was not traveling in that same way. that has changed.

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shooter that killed people at a buffalo grocery store. soon, a judge in fulton county, georgia, expected to release a partial report from the grand jury investigating donald trump's actions after the 2020 election. plus, the warning from the congressional budget office if lawmakers don't act on the debt limit. first, a potential game changer in the opioid epidemic. getting narcam, the reverse nasal spray could be pretty simple. it could be as easy as buying ibuprofen. they voted unanimously to make the drug available over-the-counter. so that means no prescription. what narcan does is stops a drug in its tracks. easy to use. take a look at this. this is an officer in arkansas reviving someone who is

overdosing. >> hey, welcome back. what's going on? >> we're going to get you in my truck. i'm going to give you a once over, man. >> wow. our cnn medicanational correspo joins us now. we heard so much about narcan but it wasn't that easy to administer. people could buy it like they buy tylenol would be a game changer, right? >> oh, absolutely, poppy. it really would change things. right now you can get narcan or the generic without a prescription. you don't need a prescription right now. do you need to go to the pharmacist. it's behind the pharmacist counter. and some people don't know it's there. some people don't feel comfortable doing that. take a look at what this change would mean. first of all, yesterday the fda advisors voted unanimously to say, hey, let's put it out there with the ibuprofen and shampoo, toothpaste, everything. the final decision about whether this will will happen is up to the fda commissioner.

but we feel quite confident that he would say yes to this. there is no reason to say no. if approved, it wouldn't be a cvs or walgreens, supermarket, gas station. the folks who we're talking to who work in this business say this is great. sort of one of the final sort of impediments of getting narcan is the price. if you don't have health insurance, it can get pricey even with government support programs. it can still be quite pricey. >> the idea would be you could apply -- if you do have health insurance or medicare or medicaid, you could apply that to even over-the-counter? >> that is certainly the hope. right now you can apply it and don't need a prescription. it should work the same way. >> my question is, elizabeth, i have some on the set. so i got this -- i don't want to put my address on there. i asked my doctor. lots of people come and visit in the summer. they hang out. they bring kids.

they go swimming in the pool and whatever. you don't know. they spend the weekend. and you don't know what people are doing, what they come in contact with. and so i asked if it was okay to get a prescription to have in my house. he said actually a very smart thing. i'll see if i can get it. it took a while to get it. there are a couple refills on here. so i think it's -- i think it will be smart if people can get it at home. i certainly got it. i think it's been in the house since august of last year. maybe july over the summer. how soon would people be able to get it over the shelves if there is a green light? so i guess you think it is a good idea to do this? >> certainly. certainly the fda advisors thought so too. to be clear, don, you don't need a prescription right now. you do need to say to the pharmacist, hey, the narcan back there, can you give me some? i'd like to buy it. you don't need a prescription now. you just have to ask the pharmacist. that is a bit of an impediment.

you can't get it at a gas station or just sort of anywhere. i think it could be very useful, again, the money is still an issue. this should happen quite quickly. let's take a look at where opioid deaths are right now. you can see from this graph, they are just growing wildly, unfortunately. it is such a tragedy that this is happening. in 2021, there were more than 80,000 deaths, more than 80,000 americans died from opioid overdoses. and if this could be easier to get, hopefully that number could come down. >> yeah. it could be such, such a game changer. >> very helpful to know. i've been wondering foreenvironmef forever about that. you see people being saved by narcan. same thing with a defibrillator. >> thank you, elizabeth. also this morning, there is an urgent warning coming from the congressional budgets office. even if you don't -- not so familiar with that, this is a

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in my assessment, and that of economists across the board, a default on our debt would produce an economic and financial catastrophe. >> that is treasury secretary janet yellen using words like catastrophe and crisis. she's been saying this, not enough people are listening. america blew past the debt limit last month and a new report from the nonpartisan congressional budget office warns that we could default as soon as july if congress does not raise the debt krelg. w -- ceiling. big impact for all of you. christine romans is here with how it could affect you. this is what she's been saying. >> yeah. >> now the cbo, again, not partis partisan, they crunch the numbers. >> we're running out of time. the near term problem is this debt limit which we already hit. by july, it could be that we're

no longer able to pay all of our bills. by july, so we got a dozen weeks here when you could see a situation where we're not being able to pay bills. what happens if we can't pay our bills? we'll probably pay the bond holders first so we don't destroy the american economy. you have ious for 67 million people that get social security. ious for active duty military. ious for hundreds and hundreds of federal contractors. and that would have a terrible effect on the economy, cause a recession and cause a loss of confidence in the u.s. overall. that's what happens in the very near term. they are saying that could happen in a matter of months. >> i was struck by what they said about the raising -- rising federal debt. and just what we're looking at here. >> so this was a number that was very dire, grim. this is a storm brewing. we know it's coming. if we do nothing, we will add

$19 trillion to the national debt over the next decade. if we do nothing. and what are we talking about in washington? we're talking about doing nothing. politically inconvenient and because they're very vocal blocks that don't want to touch medicare and social security. that is the biggest driver of the debt. so is defense and other veterans benefits. and interest is rising. interest payments are rising. mortgage rates -- interest rates are rising. that means the interest payments are rising. >> pay the interest on what we've taken. >> so our interest costs are higher. medical costs will be higher. so there is a real unsustainable path for america's finances at the moment. and by -- what something the cbo said that really struck me is in the next decade, you'll have debt that will be 118% of the size of gdp. that is really scary when you think that never happened before where your debt is so much bigger than the size of your

economy. >> 118% of how much we're growing of our gdp. wow. >> so it's a wakeup call and warning to washington. but a warning that i think is still falling on deaf ears. the short term problem is raise the debt krceiling to pay billse already paid. and look at the way that our government finances are struck sturd. -- structured f you don't change something, the next day the social security checks will be 25% less. >> it will just happen. >> it will just happen. >> thank you. we had a little trouble with the magic wall. it happens. >> that is an eye popping number. also this morning, overcoming impossible. ahead, our interview with the world class chef, restaurant miracle worker robert irvine about turning ls into wins. >> ls are great, you never want to repeat them. it's okay if you fall. but don't fall twice.

learn from it.

he is a world class chef, author, someone who really just does the impossible. >> the place is a pigsty. you are here at this point. >> the food is tasteless. this is a wakeup call. tomatoes are your health. you're going to lose this and your own life if you don't do something different. >> he is blunt. robert irvine, host of the hit series "restaurant impossible" on our broadcasting cousin. he helps restaurant owners turn things around in mater of days. if you wonder how he got so good at this, he shares it all in his book overcoming impossible. it is out now. we sat down with robert irvine to talk about his latest book. >> robert irvine joins us now. the new book is now out.

this is actually different than the books that you have wrib before. it's not focused on recipes. what made you take kind of a different path with this? what did you want to do? >> the business that i'm in is saving restaurants. restaurant impossibles in over 300 series right now. and i couldn't get to all of them. i thought why not put it into a book and help those folks that i can't fix on television. >> and focus on the entrepreneurial side of it. leadership is a big part of this. >> leadership is number one. it's like empathetic leadership followed by losing egos, followed by trust. the three pillars that i feel is successful businesses run on. >> how does that play? we don't have to deal with any of that in this business. leadership, managing egos and trust. so in a restaurant business? >> it's no different to any other business. i don't work on restaurants

only, i work on major fortune 500 countries that are scaleable. america was built on mom and pop restaurants and nobody helped them. restaurant possible is doing. that i can only get to one a week. there are thousands of restaurants, 2,000 apply for the show every week. i can do one. this book is all about, look, i made a lot of failures. i'm going to give you the pitfalls to my failures so can you see them coming. i never had that. and teach you how to run your business successfully. it's not just a check the box book. this is full of information, full of case studies of the restaurants that i fixed and the busy fixed. >> it's so interesting. it's an indicator, a key indicator for economic either help or, right, or that not being healthy, our economy. when you look at what happens with restaurants, especially over the pandemic, and so i wonder if that affected -- if

that influenced this of you trying to help restaurants because it's become like restaurant almost impossible after the pandemic. >> the pandemic was huge for us. as you know, st. patricks day, everything fell apart. we didn't. we got back on the road. the head of food network said get back on the road. six buses. six people in each bus. we did 66 episodes of saving restaurants during covid. that did spark a lot of watch in there. why do people fail? and so it's those three pillars. because, you know, the biggest failing restaurant in america is an italian restaurant. why? because mom says you make great meat balls. you open a restaurant. you max out the credit cards. six months later after all your friends have been in, there you call robert irvine to help you. you're $600,000 in debt. >> the reality of this is in life and not just restaurants, everyone fails at some point. i read a quote from your book.

it made me think of jalen hurts who lost the super bowl on saturday. he had this moment where he talked about using a moment like that as a teachable moment. he said you can choose how you confront your agony. you wrote if you're going to take every critical note or rejection as an opportunity to allow a personal vendetta to fester, you're not going make it very far. how should people use their ls, as you call them? >> ls are great because you never want to repeat them. it's painful. you know, just like jalen hurts. i was just as sad, by the way. look, we're put on this planet to learn and to engage and help people. and it's okay if you fall. but don't fall twice. learn from it. and teach other people. that's what this book is all about. teaching people to look for the pitfalls in business. >> fascinating book. it is overcoming impossible. it's now out. >> good to see you.

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