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without getting you sick. >> what does it look like going forward. >> the fda put out the plan we'll encourage vaccination once a year the shot will change each year depending upon the strains out, there kind of like the flu, but they haven't really set this in stone, so cdc advisors are meeting later this month to talk about this plan, will this happen once a year? and will everyone be encouraged to get a shot or will they really be focusing on older people or people who are immune compromised. >> pamela brown be and the situation room, thanks for watching i'll be back tomorrow night, burnett out front night, burnett out front starts now. ♪. ♪. ♪. out front the head of russia's
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military calling calling out putin. an armored train equipped with high tech administration system drops him out in front of his house, the results of president biden of physical has been released doctors say he's physically healthy but the white house will not say if he took a cognitive test. how come? and access into an american production factory, ramped up to the max a race against time a report you'll see first here, let's go time it out on the calling the wagner group, publically blaming putin's generals for for the winning the battle of bakhmut, the battle of daily hand-in-hand combat and mass death raging more months. here is the wagner group chief today. >> the advance proceeding less fast than we want, why is the advance not fast enough? i think we could have taken control of it by the new year if
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we hadn't been hindered by's monstrous buyer rock chris and bureaucracies. >> putin monstrous military, this is incredible you're in the middle of a war and calling the military monstrous, what part is slamming putin's military vocally clearly seems to be the pressure. the majority of whom are convicts, here are wagner fighters angry about the lack of ammunition >> we are the artillery unit of wagner, pmc every day we carry out difficult combat tasks covering assault groups, at the moment, we're completely cut off from the ammunition supply. >> completely cut off from ammunition? now, we have a special report on the ammunition situation which is is a crisis for both russia and ukraine. that's later this hour, but public anger comes as ukraine keeps successfully blocking most
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russian missiles we have new video, this is the missile brigade shooting down an incoming russian crews missile, saved countless lives even as the missiles have been so destructive but all of this is impacting putin in profound ways we have a new report from an investigative group tracks activity associated with the criminal. >> vladimir putin for the most part stopped using his private plane he used to do it. head of state walk down the stairs. no, now, this is his preferred mode of transportation, according to the group, which is run by maikel korkowskii, he travels in this train in this communication system, why the train. >> earlier i spoke to a reporter with the center and he told me that the russian president is
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afraid. >> for psychological reason of using this train is that he's scared. he's scared that he can be tracked that his train can be tracked and that his plane can be shutdown by nato air forces or ukraine or some missile, some kind of a missile that ukrainian or anything like this can happen, he's scared and believes that it is more secure way to travel, if nobody would know where he is going and nobody would understand he's inside this train. >> no one will know, because he said it looks like a normal passenger train, that gray with the red stripe, that's the russian passenger train, make no mistake though, this particular train is not like the others. >> we're like three low motives. it's armored and so it's heavy
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and it needs more, this train has some kind of special equipment for special communications he wants to communicate securely. he needs some special lines to communicate with his prime minister and other officials to be sure he's not by some foreign intelligence and you can see part of this on the roof of the cars. >> you can see part of it from the roof, and it's heavy, it's armored takes three low motives to transport, not just one these officials putin is talking to most likely include the president his closest alley whose country was used to launch the invasion of ukraine a year ago, there's evidence that he'll be used again as a launch pad, financial times reporting according to western intelligence, aircraft are gathering along ukraine's border, we're live in bell ruse, today you had the rare
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opportunity to be with and to question the bell russian president alexandria lukashenko >> he's an important figure for vladimir putin, as you say his closest ally in all of this and certainly extremely combative, we were able to ask him several questions today about his relations were vladimir putin and their role in this war in ukraine, it was a really testy exchange, here's what happened. >> vicious fighting in eastern ukraine. military so far repelling most russian attacks here. as vladimir putin's forces strugglelied losing soldiers and armor, his main ally spoke to international media for one of the first time since russia invaded ukraine. an invasion that was started in large parts from his country. >> what i asked him why he still
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supports putin's war, he combative. >> this is another rhetorical question, why do you support ukraine pumping it with weapons instead of sitting down to negotiate as i suggest. >> he insists bell ruse won't send troops to fight alongside russia unless directly attacked by ukraine. but says he still firmly stands by russian president vladimir putin. >> he gets angry when i ask him if surprised by how week russia's army is. >> you must see this is the number one army in the world fighting against you. americans and europeans practically against nato using ukrainians and the ukrainians are not done. >> many russians opposed to him have gone to ukraine to fight against the russian army. >> we are here to prove that we belarusians are not our government, we don't want to be
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associated that seized the power in belarus. i mean the regime, they often face off against mercenaries from the wagner private military company, the boss recruited tens of thousands of convicts from russian jails and brought them to the front lines. >> the sea is full of >> i asked lukashenko how he feels about using conflicts as expendable fighters. >> russian did indeed use convicts but now this is for bid end. it is forbidden in russia, and wagner are not doing this. it is forbidden. >> and what about the russian defense ministry? they are using convicts i asked >> the ministry the defense that's not true. the ministry of defense has enough mobilized resources and servicemen to create a special unit if that's what they're
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doing i will find out the answer to this question tomorrow. >> he is meeting vladimir putin on friday, but what he really wants is to host peace talks with putin, president joe biden and vlodymyr zelenskyy of ukraine and asked me to relay the message. >> if biden has a desire pass on to him through your channels we're ready to welcome him and have a serious talk with him if he wishes for peace in ukraine, even putin will fly there and we can meet there the three of us, two aggressors and a peace loving president, why not >> the ukrainians you see that differently erin they very much see bell ruse and lukashanko in being accomplice sit. quite frankly he said he would continue to allow the russian army to use belarussian territory to strike ukraine, all eyes are on that meeting between
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putin and lukashenko that will take place in couple of hours and william see how possibly the posture of belarus changes or stays the a same. >> incredible access from fred tonight. and i want to go to retired army lieutenant and steve hall former cia chief of operations. you heard fred there argumentive. in that exchange. and obviously, as fred says, this meeting between putin and lukashenko is a couple of hours, air force as we know has not been a big part of this war, western intelligence is saying putin is planning a mass air assault. what would this mean >> well, first, what i have to complement fred, he is getting unbelievable reporting from inside the terrain, phenomenonal
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work. what i would suggest is murdaugh luke shenko is saying his forces are not going to participate in this action i would say the reason why is he continue, the belrusan has five brigades, the worst trained in europe when i was a commander in the u.s. army europe, they were at the bottom of the list of 49 countries in terms of their capability. he also knows that if he were to commit his soldiers into ukraine, he would have an uprising without any security forces to protect him. russia could certainly use the territory of belarus to launch another attack toward kiev they've done it in the past. they can do it in the future. poorly trained soldiers by russia in this event i also say again, i think we're going to see more and more ballistic missiles from aircraft and launch sites in belarus from the
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russian army. >> that's what they're trying to do, to have aircrafts stationed close and be able to increase the air assault. that's the concern, in this context, steve, you know, they're trying this and we'll see what happens, we'll see whether it transforms the situation, but they're doing it because of the failures that they're experiencing on the ground and you here complaints about that, incredible, he's been public in his criticism but to call putin's military a monstrous military bureaucracy publically is a significant thing. blaming putin's generals for not winning bakhmut, why is he doing this so publically. >> well, i make it small distinction it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for us in the west but it's big in russia, a long history of russia in russia, if you want to criticize criminal you don't name the czar or the president in this case, putin directly you talk about the guys around him, military, military generals because that leads to the public sense of he's just surrounded by bad
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advisors he's a good guy himself, it's putin who gets it and bad advisors that's what he's sort of tapping into, but something else which i don't think has ever been done previously somebody who previously anapol gar to cross over into politics to position himself potentially in some sort of leadership inside of russia. last time he spent ten years in jail because putin wasn't having it. pergosian is apparently having more success at that. >> fascinating with the reports today, when it goes wrong it can go very wrong, several more strange and unexplained deaths, we find out seems weekly. general in this context, because steve mentions kofsky group that's done this painstaking research on the train, putin's train, so the reporter there explained why putin is using
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this train, here he is again. >> he's scared. he is scared that he can be tracked. his plane can be tracked and that his plane can be shot down. by nat toe air forces or the air forces of ukraine or by some missile some kind of missile that he kremlin breach or anything like this can happen, he's scared and he believes that it is more secure way to travel, nobody will know where he is going nobody will understand that he's inside this train and nobody will be on track to do something with this train. >> general, on a certain level it's kind of a stunning thing to say, train goes 50 to 70 miles an hour, train has to stick to tracks. everyone can see when train is moving. it is a pretty stunning thing to say that this is you know, that putin is so worried about being plane being shot down, that he's resorted to train something done in the era of stalin or by the
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likes of kim jong-un. >> yes, erin what i'd say is president zelenskyy by comparison is getting around pretty well, he's been to all the front lines, appeared on camera with soldiers on the front lines in the trenches, he's been there multiple times in all of these situations if putin has this great army that he just talked about, is he really that concerned he's got to move from moscow to st. petersburg in an armored trained that i would suggest and maybe steve can talk more about this it can be readily picked up by signals communications and aerial observations he is afraid as a reporter said from thes doier, that he'll be killed and this is what auto krats do in bad times >> what does this say, putin's use of this train, you know what it is and when it's going there, what does that say about his
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mind. >> if this reporting is accurate and we do have a number coming who has a bone to pick so it benefits him, if it's true, stalin did this, it could be true, and of course the north koreans do it so this isn't unprecedented but there's pluses and minuses, planes aren't easy to spot, there's an electronic signature taking off and land at airports, tail spotters all sorts of ways you can find airplanes, there might be circumstances which trains are harder to spot, less communication you can't see them flying through the air if you're tail spotter but the take up the special communications package they're talking about then admitting something noticeable, this is an interesting train and by the way it's pulled by a lot more locomotives and seems to be different. there's pluses and minuses i wouldn't say that it's perfectly safe to be traveling on a train but it does reflect if it's true what putin you know, putin's mindset is. >> and i'll say one more thing, the train has to stay on a
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track. it can't deviate from that track. so there's not had a whole lot of capability to evade being targeted. >> thank you i appreciate it. and next, fit for duty what biden's doctor is saying after the physical, the white house that will not say if the president took a cognitive test. why? and taking on elon musk and publically. retired astronaut scott kelly is out front to tell us why. and georgia special grand jury investigating trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election saying at least one witness may have committed perjuryry under oath,t,ti cobb is my guest tonight. ♪ ♪. ♪ ♪. the only smart bed in the world that actively cools, wararms, and effortlessly responds to both of you. our smart sleepers get 28 minutes more restful sleep per night.
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cheers! with 100% accurate tax calculations guaranteed. . tonight the abouts white house releasing results of president biden of physical exam calling him healthy and vigorous, not mentioned is whether or not a cognitive test was given to biden who will be 82 the end of his first term and the oldest person in u.s. history, phil what else can you tell us about the president's physical. >> top line from the summary sent by the president's physician said he's able to successfully carry out the duties of the office vigorous and healthy critical words i think white house officials were happy to see not they've been given communication otherwise, to some degree it's a similar report from the president's first physical in late 2021, however it did list that he did have a lesion removed from his chest currently under going
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being viewed at this point in time, but the biggest take away now is stable gastro-- reflux, and also persistent atrial fibrillation but that's asymptomatic treated for that. biggest take away when you read the memo, president, healthy, vigorous, fit for office. >> they're saying that and that's the release and then it of course comes in the context, phil of biden likely days or weeks away from officially announcing running for reelection, you get this report, maybe this will sway some concerns that i know you have a lot of reporting about many democrats do not want him to run or have major concerns we'll see whether this report again change that is but why is that feeling so pervasive? >> i think there's two important moments happened in the last two weeks, which is the state of the union address when they talk about advisors he was at his best, no question and that swayed a lot of concern from democrats i was talking to from
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the story you're referencing, this report goes further than that in terms of health when you talk to democrats they're not much different they see the polls, they see the polling, they understand people if they're happy with the president, they understand he's 80, the oldest president in the history of the country and that concerns them primarily because they don't want to lose an election in 2024 when you talk to the white house officials they made clear he's not challenged and they feel good about where they're going because of the agenda and obviously, he's healthy. >> phil thank you very much. i want to go to david axelrod former senior advisor to president obama. you heard phil's reporting dozens of white house aides, impressive behind the scenes about biden are worried, you got the report he's healthy and vigorous, did not include a cognitive examine, what are you
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hearing from the democratic operators insiders about him. >> look, before we ever get to the democratic insiders, and politicians and white house aides and so on, we have polling, and let me just preface this by saying if joe biden were 20 years younger and had the record he has, there wouldn't be a whimper about whether he should run for reelection, there would be great deal confidence about the ability to run he led the country through a covid crisis. the economy has done very well inflation still a concern, but he you know, the rest of the it has been positive, lots of historic legislative achievements has a got a lot to crow about, the problem is he's an old crow and everybody recognizes that. and you see it in polling, you know, he has 80% approval rating among democrats, yet 58% say
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they don't, they prefer another candidate for president in 2024, and that's not record based, that's about age and shows up in other ways in polling strongly in focus groups be people know that, politicians know that. joe biden has made a decision and he's going to run and i think people will fall in behind him but it is a continuing concern as healthy and vigorous as he is today, it's he's going to be asking the american people to believe that he will remain so until he's 86 in the hardest job on the planet and that creates problem >> you mentioned focus groups according to new reporting phil's new reporting one person who observed multiple 2022 focus groups said voters bring biden's name up constantly. that's 2022, some words are pretty awful. these are words in the focus groups dementia. brain dead, mush literally comes up all the time.
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those are unpleasant thing to repeat but that's what's coming out of the focus groups, we understand be how big of a problem is that? how hard is that to overcome? just because -- in terms of being a persistent question, i suppose. >> yeah, i mean, there's no magic answer to this question, i believe you want to appear vigorous, you want people to see you doing your job constantly says just watch me i think that's the best they can do. but the fact of it, nobody gets younger, everybody gets older. and so you know, i think people are going to be watching closely in the next couple of years to see how he performs and to see if there's any slippage and that's just something he'll have to live with. the other thing, it puts pressure on the vice president because you know, i remember when we were doing the campaign in 2008 for barrack obama, and there were a lot of questions about palin and people would
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bring up that mccain was 73 and had melanoma, there was no guarantee he'd live out his terms and they had concerns about palin and they weren't going to vote for mccain, now, kamala harris is not sar palin, that will create an issue for him in this campaign, she'll be like a co candidate for president. >> thank you very much. david axelrod. pretty profound questions there, the newest episode of david's podcast the ax files his guest this week, tom nigh the u.s. ambassador to israel. >> next, senator john fetterman fit suffered a stroke and hospitalized after feeling light-headed checked himself into walter reed for clinical depression. here in the united states wasting to keep up with the demand of weapons needed in ukraine. >> this point it's only taken a
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this is cnn. tonight, a race against time. cnn with a very rare look tonight inside a u.s. weapons production factory in pennsylvania. a factory that is ramping up production to the max to keep up with demand on the battlefield in ukraine, ukraine and around are firing, say 100,000 artillery shells at each other on average every week. in a war with absolutely no end in sight. it's a stunning number, oren
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lieberman has the story you'll see out front. >> in the steel furnaces of scranton pennsylvania the weapons of war are in high demand be unton medal rods heated and forged into 11,000 artillery shells had a month got a rare look inside the scranton army ammunition plant. one only a few in the country that make this crucial round. here, specially made steels heated 2,000 degrees slowly shaped stepped by scorching step. into its final product. >> this point it's only taken a few hours to heat the steel and then turn into what looks like an artillery shell, press it into that familiar shape but it's days of testing and inspections to make sure that this can be turned into a 155 military artillery shell feared
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in the battle field. >> the products doesn't end here the enemy is father time. ukraine can burn through the plant's monthly production in half a week. locked in a grinding war of attrition with putin's army and russian mercenaries. the current rate of ukraine's ammunition expenditure is many times higher than the current rate of production. >> one year in, the war turned into a vicious math problem. how to make enough ammo for ukraine, united states and alleys, the pentagon a planning on new ammo plants in texas and canada part of a race to increase the capacity of the defense industrial base. doug bush is the army's head of acquisition >> we're meeting demand right now. of course i want it to be faster, everyone does. but there's a time factor a year to 18 months is often what
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you're looking at. >> bush said this is the greatest ramp up in military production possibly going back to the korean war. >> early on we realized we had to really put our foot all the way to the floor. >> the goal within two years is to produce five times more artillery rounds each am i each month, up to 4,000 a month, 30% more rounds for the high mars rocket launchers about 850 a month, precision weapon ukraine used to target command and ammo posts and stinger anti-aircraft each month. u.s. doesn't matter with russia but that matters little with manufacturers. >> our defense industrial base is largely geared towards a peace time environment and not towards a war time or aqua see war time environment we're in. >> if you want a sense how this
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is increasing at the pace within last two weeks they put out one and a half billion dollars in contract tracing for more 155 military ammunition which you saw making in that piece, the goal is to do it quickly as possible and you see it reflected in the contracts, production and pace. >> incredible reporting, thank you really so much. and i want to go to retired astronauts scott kelly retired maryland fighter pilot and retired captain in the u.s. navy. scott really appreciate your time and his reporting incredible it gives the sense of the shortages we hear about on the front lines what that means, what it takes to actually produce this, ukraine as orereported burning 11,000 artillery shells every few days, so for you in the u.s. there are significantly ramping up weapons production, but that takes time. can the united states keep up and the big question at what cost is all of this bringing to america's own supply and
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military? well, erin, first of all thanks for having me on. i do think we can keep up you know, of this country has an incredible capacity to rise to the occasion. but you know, it's also shocking how many artillery shells and other rounds we're the ukrainians are using to defend themselves, and you know, of course, we need to have a reserve here in the united states to you know, protect ourselves in for all different kinds of reasons but i think we will be able to continue to supply. and we're at a critical time now. ukraine has the initiative and i think we need to do everything we possibly can to continue to support them. >> one thing i'll say is anywhere you go where there's fighting the ground is completely littered with it it's unbelievable ordinance of all sorts, it's stunning to see that and how it is absolutely
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everywhere the sense how much they're going through, also on the front lines they relied incredibly heavily on star link elon musk's satellite internet technology on the battlefield, they're open about it without it they wouldn't be where they are, they would have possibly lost this war in the first days. now, star link is saying its technology was not meant for offensive military purposes, and musk is blocking ukraine from using it to control drones, which is a huge thing. and elon musk got in a twitter exchange with you. and said that he's blocking that because he doesn't want to start war world war three, he'll block the use of star link, i know you have a problem with that. tell me why. >> first of all i have a lot of respect for elon as an engineer and you know, a visionary technologist, i think he may very well go down as the thomas edison of our time i. hope that's the case, i hope he doesn't get an asterisk with the
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title. he very well may. so he's -- he is in a tough position, i know it's his company, it's his decision to do what he wants but i think in this case, he's really pulling the rug out from under the ukrainians, they've had this capability for long time they've been using star link to communicate on the battlefield for corrective fire for their artillery to make the more precise, which you know, to me, is not an escalation, if you're, you know, if you're allowing more precision in your targeting, you know, you're not causing collateral damage, you're able to you know, advance this fight more quickly and i think escalation will come if we don't allow ukraine to use this, if we don't support them because they have the initiative now, and i think the only way putin is ever going to back down is if he's defeated on the battlefield and we absolutely need star
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link's help, ukrainians do. >> amazing there to see what a significant thing one human being can have on all of this when you think about it and the not putin. right? it's elon musk. thank you so much, i appreciate your time. >> my pleasure, thank you. >> next, senator john fetterman fit now hospitalized for depression comes a week after hospitalized for light-headedness >> the grand jury recommending charges be filed. ♪. ♪. ♪. we tried dove instead. so, still need that trimim? oh my gosh! i am actually shocked i don't need a h haircut. don't trim daily damage. stop it t with dove.
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. tonight pennsylvania senator john fetterman fit is hospitalized for depression. his office said he checked himself into walter reed for nation treatment, his wife tweeting after what he's been through the last year probably no one who wanted to talk about his own health than john i'm proud of him getting the care he needs, he was in the hospital last week for light-headedness and in a recovery from the stroke he suffered last may. all eyes on this situation here. what are you learning? >> yes, senate democratic leaders are confident that john fetterman fit will recover and that he will be able to serve out the full six years of term that he was just elected to last november. chuck schumer, majority leader and dick der ban the number two
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democrat indicating they're still confident he will get there. he did not see any signs of this while they were meeting behind closed doors, he didn't say that fetterman was at a briefing about china yesterday had been attending senate democratic meetings had attended votes but nevertheless, this situation turning very serious four feet fetterman suffered a stroke during campaign season, was off the campaign trail several week afterwards and the effects of that stroke were very noticeable at his debate performance and interacting with individuals throughout the course of hi campaign season, but over the last couple of days things gotten noticeably worse according to his officers, his chief of staff sending a statement saying while john experiencing a depression off and on throughout his life it only became severe in recent weeks. now, the statement went on to say that fetterman is still getting the care he needs it's
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unclear when fetterman will return to the senate but the question will be how he will be when he returns and whether he'll be able to serve out his time and whether or not the care he's getting will ultimately get him to a place where he can serve as a senator but at the moment. democratic leaders are hopeful and confident he will get there. >> obviously, this race is a lot of questions and of course, it is important and significant right that he chose to do this and felt it was important and he's taking care of himself, thanks, monu, now i want to go to dr. david shiner president obama physician 20 years, and he suffered that stroke from may, suffering from side effects, still, he's recovering, he uses sistive technology to help him with audio processing admitted to the hospital after being light-headed now he'll be nation for depression treatment, how
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common is that from someone recovering from a stroke. >> about 30% of people we strokes have depression the most severe the disability, the more likely you are to have depression and i cannot think of any kind of disability worse than aphasia, an ability to understand what other people are saying perhaps he may have trouble reading, i sort of compare this situation to the santos situation. the republicans refuse to make a move on santos even though he obviously should be thrown out and democrats knowing he's severely disabled refuse to do anything about fetterman they have the democratic governor he can appoint a senator, he should drop out now. should have dropped out before the election, but at least now he's won let him step out with honor, and for a better, the likelihood that he's going to really recover that well i think is questionable.
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maybe had one or two patients in 50 years who suffered from aphasia that showed some improvement but never dramatic he'll never get back to where he should be, he's had severe brain damage. it's too important to be left in this situation, it's embarrassing absolutely wrong and bad as santos as far as i'm concerned. >> dr. i appreciate you're taking the time, you're saying what you think i appreciate that. thank you. >> thank you. and next the georgia special jury releasing a portion of its report. that portion i want you to stress portion, does not recommend charges against the president but they're only putting out parts of it. trump is celebrating despite that. is he getting ahead of himself? his former white house lawyerty couple is my guest, the family of bruce willis revealing the
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how many rooms are in there? should we go check it out? yeah. we get to stay here all weekend! when you stay at a vrbo... i call doing the door code! ...the host doesn't stay with you. it looks exactly like the picture. because without privacy in your vacation home... it's a full log cabin guys. ...it isn't really a vacation... we can snuggle up by the fire. ...is it? wow, oh my- [birds chirping] tonight charges recommended in the donald trump georgia probe. the fulton county special grand jury recommending trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election, saying in newly
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released portions of its report, that at least one witness may have committed perjury, lying under oath. it did not name names, so we don't know who that could be, but we do know the grand jury heard testimony from, well, 75 or so people, including the governor of georgia, brian kemp, former attorneys rudy giuliani and john eastman, republican senator lindsey graham, and the former trump national secure adviser michael flynn. all of them on the list along with countless others. "outfront" now, ty cobb former white house lawyer. i really appreciate your time. the portions put out, much of the report has not been released yet. trump is declaring victory, saying thank you to the special grand jury and the great state of georgia for your patriotism and courage. total exoneration. of course they did say the charges could be recommended, although there was nothing about him in the portions they put out. do you think he is speaking too soon? >> oh, absolutely, erin. nice to be with you.
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yes, trump is speaking way too soon. i think -- i think whoever put out that statement may have been trying to curry favor with the former president. likewise, i think our friend norm eisen who thinks this is some significant death knell is speaking too soon. i think the reality is you got to wait for the facts, and there are no facts in here. the only facts that you have are the number of the good citizens of georgia that did their lawful duty, and devoted considerable time and effort for which we should all be grateful to reviewing the evidence and listen to people and try to make some difficult decisions. but we don't know what those decisions were. and the fact that the report arguably may only be nine pages long, you know, that doesn't bode well for fani willis's
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broad racketeering investigation. i do think, though, that even there i'm stepping a little bit out of bounds. because we're just speculating. we know what hasn't been produced is a list of individuals and statutes and potential violations they may have committed with a grand jury vote next to each of them. that will be consequential. what we have today is not. and on the perjury concern, i think that's a legitimate thing to put forward. but unfortunately, when you say one or more, and there is 75 witnesses. >> right. >> it damns everybody. so it will be nice to get that cleared up. >> to have some more detail. and i should say for everyone watching, i've interviewed several people who testified before that grand jury, gabe sterling, brad raffensperger, and they have all been so clear that the individuals who served on this grand jury taking months and months out of their lives, paid attention to every answer,
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asked incredible questions, researched. the commitment that the people of this country, the citizens put on that grand jury, it's just something to applaud, from every single person. sometimes you lose faith in the. . not in this case. just worth saying. >> i agree. and that's going on in, you know, cities, states across our country. and that's what makes this country great, people willing to serve the country, particularly when called upon. >> yep. now i want to ask you about the former white house chief of staff mark meadows. you know him. he has been subpoenaed by the special counsel, jack smith to testify in the doj's january 6th investigation. >> sure. >> now, when that happened, the sort of quick take was okay, that means he's not cooperating with the doj. they wouldn't subpoena him otherwise. but you actually don't think that. you think this is further evidence that meadows is cooperating with the doj. so explain. >> so i'm not sure this is evidence that he is cooperating, but i do believe he is cooperating. and there is no indication that he is -- he is contesting this.
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trump is the person who has made the executive privilege assertion. and trump has the right to contest that, because it was arguably his privilege. i don't think it will take long to resolve. the d.c. circuit and other courts have been pretty quick on executive privilege. it's been pretty nailed down by now that the evidence being given to particularly the federal grand jury process is essential to their investigation. i don't believe that this is -- this is consequential. it's more than likely that the special counsel, doing his duty thoughtfully is insulating himself against the claim later on that he improperly coerced executive privilege testimony, which could taint a prosecution down the road, but he wants it to be green-lighted.
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i wouldn't be surprised to see meadows in front of a grand jury in two weeks to a month. >> wow. incredible and fast. faster than i think anyone would expect. ty, thank you so much. i always appreciate it. >> great to visit you. my heart goes out to both senator fetterman and bruce willis on their mental health struggles. i'm praying for both of them. >> absolutely. and thank you. and we are going to be talking about bruce willis next, because we do have new details on the rare brain disorder that has forced him to stop acting. and we'll tell you the latest we know, after this. easy-to-use tools,s, and paper trading to help shararpen your skills, you can stay on top of the market from wherever you are. power e*trade's easy-to-use tools make complex trading less complicated. custom scans help you find new trading opportunities. while an earnings tool helps you plan your trades and stay on top of the market. need to be at your best?
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new information tonight about actor bruce willis' health coming from his family, who says willis, who is 67, is now living with a form of dementia. his loved ones, including his ex-wife demi moore shared the news on instagram. she wrote, "unfortunately, challenges with communication are just one symptom of the disease bruce faces. while this is painful, it is a relief to finely have a clear diagnosis." willis stepped back from acting last year after the initial diagnosis, which was aphasia. it can impact speech and language. but now this new -- they're saying they found out he has dementia, and it's called ftd for short, the time hazy. an umbrella term for a group of disorders generally associated with personality, behavior, and language. our thoughts are with him and all of his family. thank you so much for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. good evening. for the second time in a matter of weeks, authorities have released video o
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