tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN February 16, 2023 9:00pm-10:00pm PST
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that way, todd . >> now, just two seconds later, officer alexander tyler fired once, killing mr. bagley. this was on the third of this month. today, officer tyler was charged with negligent homicide and, again, is in a fatal police beating of tyre nichols, there were questions being asked about police training and the use of deadly force. cnn's ryan young is just outside shreveport for us tonight. he starts us off, ryan? but >> anderson, another tough night in america. people trying to process exactly what happened here. the state is investigating. they took several days before releasing this video, but you have a community asking so many questions about the video you are about to see. i have to warn everyone, it is tough to
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watch. and even tough to listen to because you can hear the officer crying after the shot is fired. >> the entire incident took less than two minutes. too officers arrive at the home of alonso bagley just before 11 pm, a response to a 9-1-1 call. his wife made complaints he was threatening her and her daughter. >> hi there, what's your name? >> alonso. >> can you step out for me? >> no. but it's -- i'm going to put my dogs there. >> sit down, sit down. hey, come here. come here. she can put the dog up. >> the first officer follows bagley down the hallway after he says he's going to put his dogs away, as his wife continues to yell in the background. >> hey, hey! >> the officer realizes bagley is heading out the door of a balcony. sees him jump from the second floor to the ground below. he then turns back to
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run through and out of the apartment downstairs to chase after bagley. once outside, you hear one officer yell to the other. he went that way, todd. >> about five seconds later, you hear a single gunshot. it's been one minute and 25 seconds since officers first knock on the door. >> ems right now, shots fired, shots fired. >> for the next two minutes, we hear the officers distraught and pleading with bagley to keep breathing, and see the two officers administer cpr. >> tyler, you get? >> no, no, no. >> come on, come on. >> no, no, no, man. no, no. >> come on. >> no, man, no. >> come on, you're good. >> come on, dude. come on, man. >> sending ems. now 10:19, 10:19. >> come on, dude. stay with me, stay with me.
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>> put pressure, put pressure. >> stay with me. >> come on, you're good. you're good, bro. hey, keep breathing. keep breathing, keep breathing. >> stay with me, man. stay with me. >> keep breathing, dude. keep breathing. >> go to the front of the building, to the front of the building. wave him down with your flashlight now. run, run, run. you're going to be all right, you're going to be all right. hey look at me, look at me. look at me. look at me. look at me! hey! wake up, wake up! look at me! look at me! hey! respond! come on! come on! come on! wake up! respond !
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>> but he doesn't wake up. bagley is later pronounced dead at a hospital. alexander tyler, the officer who fired that shot, was arrested today on a charge of negligent homicide. his lawyer says, he hopes the body cam footage is thoroughly reviewed for the facts and evidence. >> officers are always faced on a day-to-day basis with dangerous situations like that and, at times where they have to make split-second decisions where they are in a potential life-threatening situation. the mere fact that an argument was being made by the investigator in -- he was unarmed does not necessarily mean he's not a threat to the officer. >> bagley's brother, also viewed the video today said, it wasn't an easy thing to watch. >> it took me back to being a little brother watching my
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older brother take his last breath. and that struck everybody in that room. >> and that video, i mean, it's just horrific to see. what's the reaction been like from the community? >> anderson, it is tough when you think about hearing a man take his last breath because if you watch that video, you can pretty much hear him do that. that's the difficult thing. i think it really hit this community hard. in more than one way, anderson, because this community is dealing with a rising crime rate but at the same time, they want better policing. and they also felt like it took too long for the video to be released. the video did get released today by the -- people were pretty much cheering that part of it on. but obviously, there are so many difficult questions. also whether or not the officer followed policy by running with his finger possibly on the trigger and not really having time to react. it was also some fallout from the mayor because he didn't reach out to the
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family right after the shooting happened and today, he apologized for that. this republican mayor, a democratic city, and he said he pretty much got that part wrong. he needs to be better about. it but so many questions in this community that's clearly hurting, especially after watching that video. and from many different angles, which makes it so hard when you watch what happened. >> ryan young, appreciated. again, alonzo bagley had been -- three weeks after another chase ended with amended and officers charged in his killing, tyre nichols. some prospection now from cnn law enforcement analyst and former fbi deputy director, andrew mccabe. andrew, obviously very different than the nichols case, but what do you make of what that body cam video shows? >> well, i mean, it's absolutely excruciating to watch. i can't imagine what it's like to watch that as a family member or a friend of mr. bagley. it's hard to watch as a member of law enforcement. as well. you know, there is a couple of things that jumped out at you right away.
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obviously, and he fleeing suspect does not immediately qualify as someone who presents a mortal threat to you, as an officer, or to any other folk individuals who might be in the area. so, it highlights the incredible, how incredibly hard it is to make these life and death decisions very quickly. and maybe highlights why it is so important to effectively train officers to de-escalate in situations, maybe make decisions not to pursue fleeing suspects when they are not known to be armed or seeking a position of cover to return fire, or something like that, because it leads you down a path into a situation where you have basically no time to think, no time to assess, and you rely on gut reactions in an incredibly intensive moment. and i think that is what you see on the video.
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>> it was a domestic disturbance call and on a call like that, would there be information about whether or not the person was armed? i assume that would only come through if the person who had made the call stayed on the line to talk with an operator. >> yeah, so, you know, every single one of these situations is different, anderson. that's why police officers are at such a state of heightened alert when they go into any general domestic call. but if you listen to this tape, you can hear that the 9-1-1 operator asks the complainant, who is presumably the wife in the situation, whether or not he's armed. she says, you know, she basically says she doesn't know. he had been someplace earlier that evening and she didn't know what he did there. so, i don't believe there's at any time he's ever identified as having a weapon or alleged to have had a weapon. however, you know, as a police officer showing up, you don't know. and
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let's be honest, the fact that there are so many guns in this country, one of the very deadly implications of that fact is that a police officer never knows anytime uss or begin to interact with someone, whether it's domestic call or a traffic stop, whatever it might be, it's always hovering in the back of your mind that the person might be armed because in this country, there's a pretty good chance. >> we also don't really see this from another angle, so it's not clear, at least from this recording, about, you know, how distant the officer was who fired the shot. i mean, is it possible to tell from this video what the correct level of force or perhaps some other action might have been in this situation? >> you know, you would really have to, they will have to do some very careful analysis of the video. it's from the view, we see, it appears that the officer crosses the doorway, it
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looks like mr. bagley comes out or appears in that doorway. then the officer turns, shoots, and it's been reported that mr. bagley, we know that he wasn't armed. there was no firearm recovered from the scene and it's also been reported that he's had his hands in the air at the time he was shot. i didn't see that on the video. [inaudible] in the consideration of whether or not qualified immunity applies in this case, it's reasonable in the standard. >> let's actually look at that moment, i think, because i don't know, we have it from another angle. let's just see because you mentioned the hands. that is mr. bagley there, it's hard to tell. i believe his family has said that his hands were partial -- this is the video in slow motion, we can show it. yeah.
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>> it's really hard to see there if his hands are up before he's shot. which would be the key moment, right? he's standing there -- >> and we don't have audio from this angle, so we can tell when the shot took place. >> that's right. that's right. you know, and at the end of the day, from the legal perspective, the issue of qualified immunity, which has been discussed a lot lately, in terms of in the context of these police use of force issues, at the end of the day, it's a very high standard to be able to pierce that qualified immunity and hold someone criminally responsible or -- responsible for the use of an active force. it goes back to the standard of the grand standard from 1989, supreme court case and it's basically an analysis that's conducted from the perspective of, a, reasonable police officer who, under the same circumstances, the exact same
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place, would the actions taken by this officer have been considered reasonable? and police officers are given enormous deference and leeway in assessing whether or not they felt that they were in mortal danger in that moment. >> andrew mccabe, i appreciate, it thank you. alonso bagley's family has filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the officer, alexander tyler. in federal court, ronald halle is an attorney for the family. xavier suds, who we saw in -- report is alonzo belize by rather. i spoke to them both just before airtime. >> mr. such, can you share with us seeing this body camera video that you've been waiting for, what stood out to you? >> what stuck out to me was probably just how everything went. my initial response to the body cam footage was confusion followed by anger.
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and that's just from not understanding why a domestic call turned deadly. i under not understanding that. that everything tied in with pain, but i prepared myself for that as much as i could, but you can't prepare yourself for something like that when you see that. >> did it answer questions for you? i mean, it all happens, it seems the video, so fast. did you get answers from it? >> i did get answers that i had, a question i did. i think at this point, the only thing i'm wondering is just, you know, the procedure. why did it happen like it happened? but yes, i did get the answers that i wanted and it was tough. it's
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still tough. it's painful. again, it's not easy. none of this has been easy, but in all of it, i am learning as i go, and i'm building to stay strong and holding this entire process. >> mr. haley, from a legal standpoint, have you been satisfied with a level of transparency from the louisiana law enforcement? how critical is this body camera footage? >> this body camera footage, we don't have this body camera footage. we just had this officer's word and we likely do not have an arrest today. and this family would be burying their loved one with the cloud of uncertainty. i'm very pleased with the transparency from louisiana state police. sure, would i have wanted the family to view the footage
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earlier so that they could've gone through that earlier? absolutely. but anderson, as you know, we represent the family, ronald greene, erin bowman in both cases were covered by your station and those cases took years before the body cam footage turned up in any level of accountability was had. so, the fact that two weeks, or less than two weeks since this incident, i will say that i'm pleased with the changes that were made by the louisiana state police and listen, i have to give them their due. they said that they would make changes after ronald greene and this is an opportunity to show that, and they did. >> mr. suds, what is your response to the charge of negligent homicide against the officer involved in your brother's death? >> my immediate response is, okay, that's fine, but it doesn't stop there. it can't stop there. we have to make sure that my brother's death is not in vain. we have to make sure that we have, like ron said, transparency to make that sure that we have justice and, to double back what he said,
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they did work pretty fast and that was a major plus. but it don't stop there, you know? we don't stop to applaud that until the job is done. for my family and for me, for my mom and my brother, but i understand, from a civilian point, i understand that, you know, those are the charges they came up with. again, until we get that justice, until, you know, the sentencing, i'm still looking like, okay, what's next? >> xavier suds, i'm sorry for your loss and i appreciate talking to. ronald haley as well, thank you so much. >> thank you, anderson. >> thank you. >> coming up next, a michigan state professor talks about the moment a gunman opened fire on his class. what he did to try and save lives and what he's going through after seeing two of his students murdered. and later, even as he's recovering from the serious stroke, and you health challenge for pennsylvania senator, john fetterman. we will tell you
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munoz spoke with our michael marques about what happened. it was his class the gunman came into, seven of his students were shot. two of whom, alexandra warner and aerial anderson, died. miguel joins us from east lansing tonight, just off campus. what did you guys talk about? what did he tell you about, one unfolded in the classroom? >> look, these are just ordinary people. these just unbelievable, extraordinary situations. this is a guy that they certainly didn't know that he was most of the way through a late class. it was at 8:15, about 45 minutes left in the class. 45 kids in this classroom, this is a classroom he loved. and suddenly, just as he was introducing a new topic during class, but comes walking in this gunman in the classroom 140 at msu's working hall. >> so, he entered the classroom from to the back door. where a
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lot of the students that don't sit in the front, they sit by that backdoor. and at that moment, we all kind of froze. i think somebody said something about, you know, a shooter and one of my students, and everybody panicked. some froze. i think a lot of them stood up. some of them froze in place, some of them, i don't know if i screamed just, you know, find cover under the desks. a lot of them went under. curled up in a ball under their chairs and others ran, and the guy stepped in about a foot inside the classroom. not completely just, like, a foot. and or even less than a foot. enough that i could see this figure, and it
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was so horrible because, you know, when you see someone who's totally masked, you don't see their face, you don't see their hands, you don't see, it was like seeing a robot. it was like seeing something in human standing there, and all i could see was this silvery kind of steel shine weapon. i don't think it was a pistol, i think it was something larger than that. and then i could hear the shots, and they were just as loud as the ones in the hallway. it was just a nightmare. i think everybody under adrenaline did whatever they could. i don't know how long he stood there. probably, i mean, he shot at least 15 shots. one after the other, one
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after the other, one after the other. bang, bang, bang. he stepped out and at that moment, because i don't recall what i did between him starting to shoot and what i'm going to tell you just now. i just, my intuition told me he's walking down the hall and he's going to enter through the door. i'm closest to it, so i threw myself at that door and i squatted, and i held the door like this, so that my weight would keep it from and i was putting my foot on the wall, and holding like this, so that he couldn't open it. all the time, aware that he could just shoot the door handle and open it. but the only thing i thought i could do was that. at least attempt to stop it. and that lasted for about ten minutes, felt like an eternity. or 12 minutes. in the meantime, i told my students and that, i remember. i told the students, just escape through the windows. kick the windows open,
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escape through the windows. and the first line of windows closer to the row of seats could not be kicked. i mean, cannot be broken. they're made out a very hard glass. probably for, you know, insulation. so, they attempted and they couldn't open those, but then the second set of windows higher up, they were open and there was an opening big enough, so they started escaping that way. in the meantime, the rest, there were quite a few on the floor wounded, and i had some kids that were very heroic. that were helping those that were wounded and some of them, i don't know much about how to, you know, what paramedics do or what you do in a situation like that, but my students kind of knew what to do, so they were trying to cover their wounds with their hands, so they
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wouldn't bleed to death. i think i will be haunted by it. i definitely don't want to go to -- because i couldn't go into that classroom after what i saw. i think the administration is going to move my class to a different building. at the same time, but a different building. i don't know if i will be nervous every time i teach. i don't know if i will, i don't know what the university is going to do. they are going to put locks in rooms, so that you can lock the room from the inside. i think that's one of the things that might happen. i don't know that means we are going to have to use gate cards to enter into a building and leave, but what does that say about our society? >> i mean, it's incredible to hear just the recitation of sort of the second by second account. how is he doing?
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>> it's hard to tell, to be honest. he feels a lot of guilt right now because he feels like he could have done more and is replaying it in his head. he feels fear, because, clearly, of what happened. he feels confusion still, doesn't feel, it's still didn't feel real at the time. it doesn't feel real right now. and he's starting to feel real anger as well. this is somebody who was aware of all the gun violence in this country, he was concerned about it. but it has put such a fine point on it for him. you know, he wants to see his students again, he wants to start this healing process, he wants to reach out to them. he's been drafting a letter to the students in that class, trying to figure out what to say. but for a professor who, this is a guy who has all the answers, is very, very intelligent. but he's really struggling to write that letter and figure out what to say to his students and where they go from here. anderson? >> miguel, i appreciated. i know there's more to the -- you can see miguel's full interview in the next hour on erin burnett out front. still ahead, we have more on a story that we brought to you yesterday about an american aid worker who was
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others. pete was a marine corps veteran who service continued after he left the military. dedicated his life to saving others from war zones. in january, he began working in ukraine with a medical organization called global outreach doctors, but two weeks ago tonight on february 2nd, he was killed in bakhmut. a russian missile struck his ambulance, you see it there, as you we mentioned last night, this is the split second befor e it explodes. next to a team of aid workers, including pete mead tending to a wounded civilian. the missile is flying parallel to the ground, said to be a precision guided anti tank missile, which means that somebody had eyes on the target, which is the vehicle driven by the aid workers. there is hayes -- his wife, alex potter, says she believes the attack was intentional and she joins me now. alex, thank you so much for being with us and i'm so sorry for your loss. i know pete's memorial service was just yesterday. can you take us back to just how you met? because i've read this story and i find it amazing. you both
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met, you had gone both to iraq. you want to cover the battle of muscle, how did you meet each other in the midst of this? >> yeah, so i had worked around in the middle east and had left yemen about a year prior to going to iraq. i want to cover the battle with plenty of people more experienced, already documenting, it but i'm also a trauma nurse, and there's a real shortage of frontline providers, just because of the security situation. most ngos were further back than that, but -- ten minutes for trauma care, so are at an article in the post about pete and derek, who also recently passed, and the other group of medics sending facebook messaging them, saying i can come help you guys and i should say for a couple weeks. we fell in love really quickly and formed this partnership, and founded the nonprofit, that had been together ever since.
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>> what was it about him? >> pardon? >> what was it about him when you met him that you fell in love? what do you remember? >> yeah, i mean, i said this during the memorial service yesterday and it was interesting to write down, but he was just, like, a big guy in every sense of the word. to get a big personality, a big laugh, he gave really good hugs. and, like, the command of a situation, how he could really lead people was also very attractive to me. but when you're in a war and in these battles, and there's a lot of heightened emotions, like both good and bad, so i feel like people in those situations are able to form bonds really quickly. so, we knew that we were a good match for each other. >> you also see each other in the most difficult, trying of circumstances, and you know, you know, you know who the other person is. there is no bs, you know? it's real. i know you would've celebrated your first wedding anniversary in just three days. did you, why was it
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important for you to be in yemen? >> he really found purpose in helping people. he is a problem solver, so if there is a problem out there and he's not able to solve it, it was very distressing to him. in particular, if that problem involves people being hurt. you know, that is everything from intimate relationships to friendships, to family. like, if someone's hurting and they needed advice on something, like, he had to fix the problem all the way up to civilians suffering in a war. so, it was, like, a moral affront to him when people were hurting and he just really wanted to be there helping. and he was incredibly good at it. like, the medicine side, the medicine piece is one piece, you know? he's a paramedic. dccc trained, et cetera. but what he was really good at was making connections with people and identifying
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other people's strengths, so both in mosel and in ukraine, he brought together this coalition of, you know, half a dozen smaller ngos who were kind of going alone, and was able to bring everybody up together to, you know, serve the greater good. >> do you want to continue doing this kind of work? >> oh, yes. absolutely, it's necessary. you know, and he wouldn't want, he would want everyone to be safe, you know? the need is still there. the work never stops. but i hope if anything comes from this, it helps other people be aware of the type of risks that they are facing, how they can mitigate those risks, and just honor each other, and continue to be safe while they're taking care of people who need it. >> does it, i mean, knowing that this seems like it was a targeted attack. does that change the way you see this? does it matter to you, the details? >> no, it absolutely does and
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it's hard to say because, you know, terrorists in particular have targeted medical workers for a long time, so, you know, it's a risk versus other type of risk scenario. you know, if you mark your ambulance, ices might have targeted you interact. but if you don't targeted, you might be at risk for something like this. their ambulance was marked, just on the other side and the back was covered with mud, but, you know, the russians could say, oh, we mistook them for military. but it has been seen that russians have targeted medical workers in the past anyway, so what you do to mitigate those risks, it's hard to say. but it's, like, you know, that's why few have friends who know what's going on on the ground and are in constant communication with them. because what you do when
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they might have to change the next day, based on where you are going. and the decision might be, you know, we need to pull back or pull out, or change our tactics, but it's still necessary to do the work. >> well alex, it's really been fun talking to you and you just don't like such an extraordinary person. so glad to have each other and have each other, so sorry for your loss. >> yeah, thank you. i appreciate it. he really was. >> take care. >> thank you. >> coming up next, we will talk to a pennsylvania senator about pennsylvania senator, john fetterman's latest medical challenge. hospitalization for depression and bipartisan support he's getting in his decision to seek help. and what president biden -- prior to before the election says what it doesn't say about his health and -- all of this, ahead. ♪ a beach house, a treehouse, ♪ ♪ honestly i don't care ♪ find the perfect vacation rental for you booking.com, booking.
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>>, this time, he is receiving treatment for clinical depression. he checked himself into walter reed medical center. he's receiving treatment on a voluntary basis. meanwhile, the results of his annual physical exam released, according to his position. the president remains healthy, vigorous, and, quote, fit to successfully execute the duties of the presidency. joining me now is cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta. sanjay, let's talk about senator fetterman. how significant is it that he has gone public with this battle
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against depression? >> well, you know, anderson, obviously, it's a significant one a public figure talks about depression and goes public with it. as you and i have talked about so many times over the years, there are so many people who simply don't. they don't seek treatment because of stigma. i think it's important for that reason. keep in mind his history now, back in may is what he had this stroke. it sounds like it was pretty significant. there are details about that that we were still not fully given. we know that he had a pacemaker and a deferral later placed at that time. it was last week that he was in the hospital again because he went into the hospital for light-headedness. there was no additional stroke which was found at that point. he was discharged two days ago. he's now going into the hospital for depression. something we heard, anderson, that he has suffered from on and off for a long time but his
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doctors, at least to the doctors who are talking tim at walter reed where he is, think that he should do well, should make a recovery for this. >> the statement from him, from his office said that he has experienced it on and off throughout his whole life. it became severe in recent weeks. do you think it is related to the stroke? >> you know, it could be. that's certainly something that is seen. if you look across the board, i think about a third of people who have had a stroke to suffer some sort of clinical depression, diagnosed double depression. it could be for different reasons. one is that it could be due to the impact on the brain from the stroke. what a stroke is a period of time when there is not enough oxygenated blood going to the brain. some brain cells could have died. that could be causing a stroke. it could be more of a psychological impact from dealing with abilities that you have lost as a result of the previous stroke. it could be that he had previous depression that was amplified by this. nevertheless, i read the same statement. i understand that his doctors are
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optimistic about his recovery. >> president biden had his physical today. he's healthy and vigorous. you have looked at the results. what do you see? there is a lot of focus on neurological issues. >> yeah, if you looked at his last physical when he was 78 and read the statement today, now that he's 80, it's pretty similar. healthy and vigorous is the term they used to describe him. they talk about the various medications that he is on. the most notable one is eloquence which is an anti coagulant for his atrial fibrillation. he's also taking a medicine for his cholesterol. it is a pretty similar readout to what we saw about a year and a half ago. the biggest difference is that he had covid in the interim. we heard about the fact that he had covid. they describe some of the findings at that point, his oxygenation, for example. it had not dropped below 97%. that
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was notable. the neurological exam, that's something the doctors did focus on quite a bit. it's interesting because what they are talking about is that he seems to have the stiffness of his walking. if you see him walking, they were wondering why his gate has become more stuff. is it something due to parkinson's disease? it's something due to some sort of spinal issue? according to the neurological exam as it was documented, he does not seem to have evidence of that. you know, those are some of the areas that they focused on specifically. he has had this history of having had brain operations in the past four aneurysms in his brain. that was a long time ago. the a fair, but the hyper cholesterol, the stiffness of gate, those are the main things that they are focused on. >> last night, obviously you're in turkey. i know you talked to
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a crew who rescued a 13 year old boy. what did they tell you? >> yeah, this was an incredible story, anderson. keep in mind again we are ten days out. what crews are often getting called for is to remove bodies. this was a new crew, a relatively new crew that had come out. they were told that there were some bodies, sadly, in this one area of rubble. when they got their, as the lead rescuer was telling me, it was really interesting to see these guys so emotional talking about it. it's been emotional for everybody. they saw a pair of eyes initially. they heard a voice. the herd of teacher in your old boys voice. the boy's name is mustafa. the boys will shouting, brother, brother. they all -- i don't know if you're looking at the video, but they started clearing the rubble. they found this void. he was pinned. his left leg was essentially messing, anderson, as a result of ten days of basically being pinned. they were able to essentially rescue this boy. it had been 228 hours. >> that's incredible. >> he had not had water. i've
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been talking to my colleagues. i talked to the -- how does someone go ten days without water? it hadn't been raining into the area. it's not clear. they kept calling it miraculous. nevertheless, he's in a hospital in adana. it sounds like he's going to recover. there's a significant injury to his leg. it sounds like he's going to recover. >> that's incredible. sanjay, we appreciate it. the latest on the double murder trial including details of a tape played for jurors in which mirages a $10 million insurance plot involving the man he says was his drug dealer. because they saw how cancer adapts to different oxygen levels and starved it. i am here because they switched off egfr gene mutation and stopped the growth of tumor cells. there's a place that's making one advanced cancer discovery after another for 75 years. i am here... i am here.... because of dana-farber. what we do here changes lives everywhere.
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final days of making their case. today, jurors heard graphic detail about how the gunshots traveled through the victims and a csi expert testified that when maggie murdaugh, his wife, suffered the first fatal shot, she, quote, would've been on her knees and have had at least one hand on the ground. jurors also heard a tape interview between murdaugh and investigators, something that no one in the public at heard before, about a failed insurance plot worth at least $10 million, involving the man that he says sold him drugs. randi kaye has details. >> are you talking to us willingly? >> yes, sir. >> september 13th, 2021. alex murdaugh is being interviewed over the phone by senior special agent, ryan kelley. after being shot on the side of the road on september 4th. >> so, the 38 revolver, have you -- the revolver? >> yes, sir. >> do you know where it is now? >> no, sir. >> murdaugh's defense lawyers are with him as well. as murdaugh tells it, the shooting
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was all part of his scheme so his only surviving son, buster, could get millions in insurance money. he tells the investigator he arranged for a man named curtis eddy smith to shoot him in the head and kill him. >> but you entered into a verbal agreement with him to set up a scheme where he would shoot you, it would be a suicide set up as a robbery, homicide, and you doing so was in order for your son to get your life insurance policy? >> i don't know about robbery, but but -- >> earlier in the conversation, one of his lawyers asked murdaugh about his state of mind. remember, this was about three months after murdaugh's wife and son were murdered and his alleged financial schemes were coming to light. >> how can we discover state of mind at that time? >> -- thought that it would make it easier edged for them to be dead. jay -- life insurance death. >> how much?
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>> $10 million, $12 million. >> and so, you decided to end your life? >> that's correct. i called her on the telephone. >> who is curtis eddie smith? >> curtis eddy smith is the primary person who purchased -- but we had weeks where there would be 40, 50, $60,000. >> as much as $60,000 a week on pills. murdaugh says, he met smith on the side of the road and gave him the gun. he says, smith gave him a knife, which murdaugh says, he used to slash his higher. the plan was for it to look like murdaugh was fixing his flat tire, when he was shot. >> did you just stand there and wait for him to shoot you? >> yes, sir. >> smith has denied shooting murdaugh, though smith has been charged in the scheme. the gunshot, wherever it came from,
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just grades murdoch's head. he called 9-1-1, but did not say who shot him. >> i've got a flat tire and somebody stopped to help me, and when i turned my back, they tried to shoot me. >> alex murdaugh waited more than a week before telling investigators about the scheme and telling them who allegedly shot him. and anderson, the reason the state probably played that recording today, that interview, is because earlier, the defense floated theory that alex murdaugh had a drug addiction, so perhaps it was some drug deal gone bad. and a drug dealer killed maggie and paul murdoch, so the state wanted to make sure that they put that theory to bed, so they wanted the jury to hear him tell that investigator in that interview where he got his drugs, from curtis eddy smith. as they wrap up their case, they want to make sure that the jury believes that only one man could've done this, and that would be alex murdaugh, anderson. >> randi kaye, bizarre, thank. you the news continues. erin burnett out front is next right after this break.
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