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you have been great to me for 25 years. >> on that day's show you give the bs answer. >> i have serious fomo from interview that poppy did. poppy is at nba all stars weekend. we have so many good moments from that. including that whole interview there. good morning, everyone. don has the day off. pop poppy is in utah for the nba all star game. we'll get to much more that in a moment. we're learning more about the three object that's were shot down from the sky, not aliens, not even china coraccording to white house. who does president biden say is responsible? >> john fetterman is in the hospital for clinical depression. why his mental health issues became severe in recent weeks.
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plus -- >> what do people do when you walk in the bank? >> they better run to me. if that manager is sitting there when i get, there you better meet me at the door. >> the names need to introductions. poppy harlow hanging out with shaq, charles barkley and kenny smith ahead of the nba all star game. she's going to join us soon for that conversation. and in the 8:00 a.m. hour, she's going to interview the utah jazz own eastern the wnba commissioners. we have a full show of what is happening in utah. we start in washington. senator john fetterman is now at the center of a national conversation about mental health. this morning he is being treated at walter reid medical center after checking himself in for clinical depression. fetterman's chief of staff said it became severe in recent weeks that he suffered with depression on and off throughout his life. there is a complete outpouring of support for fetterman from colleagues on the hill. they're praising him for getting help and speaking publicly.
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fetterman flipped pennsylvania's crucial senate seat for democrats last year after he had that stroke on the campaign trail. he is still been recovering from it. something that is clear and his office speaks candidly about it. our cnn congressional correspondent lauren fox is on capitol hill. we often see law makers that you don't disclose their health problems, who cover them up, who down play them. it's pretty astonishing to see a senator speak so frankly about his mental health issues. >> yeah. his office being very forthcoming about this. it really does set a different tone than what we have seen in the past. it isn't that senators or lawmakers up here on capitol hill don't experience mental health issues. it's that often they don't talk about them, kaitlan. fetterman charting a different course here. >> reporter: democratic senator john fetterman of pennsylvania voluntarily checked himself into walter reid national military
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medical center to, quote, receive treatment for clinical depression. according to a statement from the senator's office. the statement also says that senator fetterman experienced depression off and on throughout his life but it only became severe in recent weeks. and after examining john, the doctors at walter reid told us that john is getting the care he needs and will soon be back to himself. on twitter, his wife said she is so proud of him for asking for help and getting the care he needs. last may he suffered a serious stroke while campaigning. >> let's also talk about the elephant in the room. i had a stroke. >> raise your right hand. >> reporter: just a few months later, he was elected to the senate. >> we know that senator fetterman pushed himself so hard in those weeks after the stroke when in an ideal world he would have been recovering. >> reporter: emergency physician says while there is no indication that depression is
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related to a stroke -- >> people who have a prior history of depression are highest risk of a relapse of depression after a major medical challenge like a stroke. >> reporter: the american stroke association says depression is common among stroke survivors. impacting a third of them. >> it's very normal for people who go through an acute medical illness or an acute traum a to have trouble with coping afterwards. sometimes people can have symptoms that are similar to post traumatic stress. sometimes they can get anxiety or depressive symptoms and proud of him for recognizing them and getting treatment which not everyone knows to do. >> reporter: it was last week when he checked into george washington university hospital after feeling lightheaded. he was discharged two days later. according to his office, the test results revealed no new stroke. over on capitol hill, there is bipartisan support behind the freshman senator.
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senate majority leader chuck schumer said he is happy to hear the senator is getting the help he needs. republican senator ted cruz echoed the statement saying, mental illness is real and serious. just shortly after this news broke, i talked to republican whip john thune. i asked him, you know, why is this moment so different? why do you think fetterman is coming forward and talking about this? he said after the pandemic, the conversation in this country really changed around mental health. he said he hopes that by fetterman being public, it encourages others to seek the help and treatment that they need. kaitlan? >> absolutely does. it's something to admire. lauren fox, thank you. now it wasn't aliens or china either. pr president biden discussing the serious objects shot down other the u.s. and canada. >> we don't know yet exactly what the three objects were. but nothing right now suggests
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they were related to china's spy balloon program or they were surveillance vehicles from other -- any other country. >> to talk more about this, with very natasha bertrand. good morning to you. >> good morning. yeah. so this is coming, of course, after a lot of speculation about what these objects might actually be given that the u.s. did shoot down a chinese suspected chinese spy balloon a few days before the three objects appeared in u.s. airspace. the president saying that the u.s. intelligence community's current assessment that these are likely objects being used for research or recreational reasons or scientific reasons and they had no obvious ties to any other country's surveillance program. the president tamping down any speculation they could be extraterrestrial which the u.s. has gone out of their way to shoot down. they said they were shot down out of han abundance of caution.
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the u.s. public at large is going to have a lot of questions about why the u.s. fighter jets shot down objects for recreational experience with very expensive missiles. >> you can see we're very high on alert. there is also the northern illinois bottle cap balloon brigade. yep, that is a reference to the movie "up." a small balloon of theirs last reported over alaska is, quote, missing in action. that's according to their website. so this is the balloon that is missing, 32 inch silver orb from balloons online. it costs $13. the could this be one of the objects shot down? >> we should note the group is taking pains here to not point the finger at the u.s. government. but they are raising questions about whether their balloon might be the one shot out of the sky. the last time they got a transmission from this balloon was the exact same day the fighter jets shot down that one
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over lalaska. their balloon was also off the coast of alaska when they last heard from it. >> thank you so much. also this morning, we're learning that witnesses in georgia's special grand jury investigation may have lied under oath. yesterday the fulton county judge released parts of that highly anticipated report that was looking into former president trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. the panel heard from 75 witnesses in this month's long investigation. they concluded that perjury, quote, may have been kmicommitt by one or more witnesses testifying before it. they recommend that district attorney seek appropriate indictments for such crimes where the evidence is compelling. let's bring in cnn's senior legal affairs correspondent paula reid. no evidence of voter fraud. they do believe some people lied under oath. >> exactly. the question is who may have lied under oath? we know this grand jury heard evidence from around 75 witnesses over the course of seven months. these witnesses included governor brian kemp, rudy
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giuliani, lindsey graham, and most of the evidence they got was from in person testimony. but what we received yesterday was just portions of their final report. and it did not specify who may have lied and, of course, we're not going to speculate. >> so i guess one big question is what happens next? >> that is the big question. if you talk to the president, former president's lawyers as we both do, they tell you, they wouldn't be surprised if he is charged down in georgia. but they are confident that they could successfully defend him. they couldn't prove any of these charges beyond a reasonable doubt. in the immediate future, the next step is for the da, bonnie willis, to decide whether she wants to go before a different grand jury to pursue indictments. she said her decision there is imminent. >> imminent means, well, we'll be waiting to see what that decision s trump and his orbit are watching this closely. the special grand jury is also looking into and unanimously
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con concluded no widespread voter fraud. that matters, trump's effortses to overturn the election there was lage mitt election. clearly it shows once and for all that effort was futile. is it damaging though for him as embarking on this third presidential run? >> absolutely. the court of public opinion that, does not help his consistent exclaim the election was stolen. in the state of georgia, it also mat whe matters when you're making a charging decision. this grand jury established there was no election fraud here. if you can establish he was trying to interfere with an election outcome, that factors into the charging decision and, again, they're not just looking at the former president, it is also this question of whether there was a broader conspiracy to interfere in georgia. >> so not the exoneration that he framed it as. paula reid, thank you for the very important updates. so ukraine's president says his country will not concede any
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land to moscow if there is a deal for peace. president zelenskyy said russia would just keep coming back if that happened. >> translator: any territorial compromises, he told me, are only going to weaken our country. so it's not about compromise. we make millions of compromises every day. but the question is with putin, no. we don't trust putin. >> now zelenskyy also said russia launched a new offensive on the ground at least five people died in russian strikes near the city. cnn's sam kiley joins us now live from ukraine. sam, the leopard tanks, they can't come soon enough, right? what does the spring offensive look like? >> at the moment, i think the best we can say of what president zelenskyy is talking about, the beginning of the russian offensive is really
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shaping operations. no real offensive has begun in any meaningful way. they are probing. they are increasing artillery attacks. there are several people killed. there has been an increase in attacks across the border in the north of the country and here in the east. of course, very, very heavy fighting. in terms of the leopard tanks and other material of that nature, that is not strategic. it's barely tactical. really a gesture coming from the western allies. zelenskyy says he needs jets, missiles to take on this military that he hopes is very much past its prime. >> sam kiley, thank you for your reporting. up next, cnn obtained new videos that show the ohio train less than an hour before the disaster happened. could these sparks that you see here in this video flying from the wheels be a crucial clue for
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people are getting sick. we should not have been let back into town until all of this was done. >> this morning people in east palestine, ohio, scared the toxic chemicals from the massive train derailment are putting their lives at risk. cnn obtained new videos of the train before the crash. they're helping us piece together a time line. so let's check out some of this. first you see videos from along the train tracks. this is in alliance, ohio. you see the train passing -- this son th this is on the right side of your screen. this is 57 minutes before the crash number sparks. but the train keeps heading down the tracks. and by 8:12:00 p.m., it's in salem. now you can see sparks from an apparent wheel baring overheating. here is another camera, same time, same town. the train keeps going for 20
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miles after that point head ford east palestine. and that is where it derails at 8:55. a full 43 minutes after we saw the sparks in salem. cnn's jason carroll is live in east palestine. jason, we want to start with what the ntsb is saying about the video and the investigation. >> this is clearly going to be a key part of the investigation into what exactly went wrong out here. according to the ntsb that, surveillance video that you referenced there, appears to show a wheel bearing in the final stage of overheat failure moments before the derailment. of course that wheel baring is a key component. it connects the wheel to the ark he will. the parts have been collected. -- axel. the parts have been collected and examined. they are taken to washington,
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d.c., where they're examined by investigators there at laboratory with the ntsb. we should tell thought ntsb that's also collected the locomotive event recorder. that is also going to be key to the investigation going forward in terms of trying to determine exactly what went wrong. >> now the epa administrator was visiting east palestine and you got to speak with him. what did he tell you? >> it was a short conversation. an important conversation. the epa administrator made it clear he knows people are scared, that they're very worried about their health. he also said he knows people do not trust the government when they say that the air and the water is safe. here's more of what he had to say. >> you heard some of the stories coming in, people talking about having rashes, pets getting sick, things like that. >> what i would say is if anyone is experiencing any kind of
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adverse symptom have their pets -- go to the veterinarian. they should seek medical attention. we need for this information to get to the state health department so that we can coordinate and be sure that people are getting the help that they need. >> reporter: can you help us clear up what you're testing for? is it just for vinyl color zblid. >> -- chloride? >> we're testing for the full breadth of the chemicals on that train. we have detect every impact that would result from that spill. that's what we're doing. we'll be here for as long as it takes to see this process through. i want to assure the people -- >> reporter: when you say as long as it takes, the question is, long term? is someone going to be here a year from now, two years now from now to come back and test the water and soil? >> i'm very clear when i say as long as it takes. we will go through this process with the citizens of east palestine for as long as it takes. the federal government will be
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here for as long as it takes. >> so again, you heard it there. the epa administrator says as long as it takes, whatever that ends up being. also want to tell that you ohio's governor has asked the cdc to get involved. he wants cdc experts here on the ground to examine people who say they are having symptoms. >> jason carroll, thank you for your reporting. we're also tracking new developments out of louisiana this morning in the fatal police shooting of an unarmed man there. the family of alonzo baggily is suing the officer for wrongful death after this body cam video showed what happened to him the night that he was killed. the shreveport officer involved has been charged with negligent homicide. despite the charges, he said he is still angry. >> my immediate response was okay, that's fine. but it doesn't stop there. it can't stop there. we have to make sure that my
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brother's death is not in vain. we have to make sure that we have, like ron said, transparency to make sure we have justice. >> cnn's ryan young is live in shreveport, louisiana. you can hear the frustration in his brother's voice. zbl >> we talked to his brother a few times yesterday. we talked to him after they watched that video in a one-on-one conversation. he said he was happy that lsp opened this investigation and that they were being so transparent. obviously the video you're about to see is graphic and we want to warn you before you watch it. >> reporter: two officers arrive at the home of alonzo baggily responding to a domestic disturbance. >> can you step out for us? >> no. >> i have dogs. >> let me put my dogs down. >> sit down. let her -- hey, come here.
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come here. >> i'm putting my dogs up. >> she can put the dog up. >> the first officer follows baggily down the hallway as his wife continues to yell in the background. >> hey! the officer realizes baggily is heading out the door of a balcony. he sees him jump from the second floor to the ground below. he then turns back to run through and out of the apartment down stairs to chase after baggily. once outside, you hear one officer yell to the other -- he went that way. >> about five seconds later, you hear a single gunshot. >> it's been one minute and 25 seconds since officers first knocked on the door. >> shot fired. shot fired. >> reporter: for the next two minutes, you hear the officer's distraught in administering cpr. >> hey, you're good. keep breathing. keep breathing. keep breathing. keep breathing. >> stay with me, man. stay with me. [ beep ] >> keep breathing.
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>> keep breathing. keep breathing, dude. keep breathing. keep breathing. keep breathing. [ beep ] >> go to the front of the building. wave them down with your flashlight. go. run, run, run. hey, dude. you're going will be all right. you're going to be all right. look at me. look at me. look at me. look at me. look at me. look at me. hey. wake up. wake up! look at me. look at me. hey! respond. come on. come on! come on! wake up! respond! >> baggily was unarmed during the encounter according to louisiana state police. the officer fired the shot, alexander tyler, is charged with negligent homicide. in court thursday, louisiana state police investigator told the judge in the split second after the shot is fired, you can
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see the body camera footage baggily's hands are up. on cross-examination, the investigator acknowledged the view from the body camera is obstructed by the way the officer turns in the fire. >> officers are always faced on a day today basis with dangerous situations like that and at times where they have to make split second decisions where they're in a potential life threatening situation. >> the mere be fact that an argument is being made by the investigator in court that he was unarmed does not necessarily mean he's not a threat to the officer. >> kaitlan, this video was hard to watch and listen to. you can hear mr. baggily's last breath. i can tell you the oufficer received a $25,000 bond. people are asking how they move forward especially with the rising crime rate. >> absolutely horrific to watch. ryan young, i know you'll keep
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the election in november. last week he checked into walter reid after feeling lightheaded. but his office said test rules out another stroke. joining us now is physician and assistant professor of health policy at will cornell medicine. welcome to the program. >> thank you for having me. >> how significant is the fact that he checked himself in? we said early tlier there was a recommen recommendation from the physician of congress. >> most is treated in the outpatient setting. people receive care from home. they go into an office. they may get top therapy or medications. in this case, serious enough. he felt he had to check himself into the hospital. as we know, there is a certain degree of disparity here. what is important to note is he felt comfortable doing that. i think he brings himself into a larger conversation about mental health in the united states right now. and hopefully other people see that example. if they need help, they seek out that help as well. >> i want to talk more about
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that more broadly. we should ask the followup question about whether or not depression can be a followup experience after a stroke. what can you tell us? >> mr. fetterman had a severe stroke back in may. about one in three patients who have a stroke will have depression at some point over the course of the year after their stroke. it's a very common condition. it can be serious in many cases. >> is it physiological, emotional? >> it's trying to work out the mechanisms behind it. there are a number of structural change t changes that take place, biochemical. kit it can shake someone's sense of self. that creates a lot of challenges with coping. this is a common thing we see after a stroke. senator fetterman has a few things that are risk factors for it. he campaigners said he had issues with depression in the past as well. he had a pretty severe stroke. he has on going issues with
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auditory processing. all those can lead you to a higher risk depression after a stroke. >> it's remarkable to see. i was in washington for 8 1/2 years. so many politicians down play or don't tell the full truth about h their health. this really stands out to me. i also want to ask you about, we love so much, his family came out and we were talking about this for a year now. his family said he has been diagnosed with ftd. what do we know about that? is that different than the dementia we know about? >> so when people think about dementia, people think about alzheimer's. this is a much rarer type of dementia but the most common in people in their 40s, 50s, and 60s. it strikes much earlier than the dementia that most people think b it has to do with degeneration in the frontal part of the brain and by the ears. the other thing that is important to realize about
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frontal temporal dementia is the symptoms are different than those with alzheimer's. so with alzheimer's, people think about memory. you losing your memory. in this case, personality changes are prominent. people have different behavior changes. they may have loss of impulse control. some people have difficulty communicating. those are the type of symptoms that people often experience with front hal temporal dementi. >> anything about treatment? >> there is no cure, unfortunately, for frontal tempor tempor temporal dementia. there is treatments can you do. the average xpexpectancy after that is seven to 13 years. that's generally what we can see. >> but kit it can affect their
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quality of life? >> it affects the people that have the disease and also their family. it is difficult to see your family member undergo the personality changes. they may not act like they have been all their life. that's a difficult thing for people to go through. >> yeah. and the family acknowledged that. they were glad to know what it was finally. >> yeah. it can be reassuring to have a diagnosis even if it's a challenging diagnosis like this one. >> thank you so much for this, doctor. >> thank you for having me. tesla is recalling the cars with full self driving software due to safety risks. the chief executive elon musk says the word recall is outdated and, quote, just flat wrong. we'll have more on why next. also, new court documents reveal that prominent fox news anchors and executives privately mocked former president trump's claims about election fraud while they were promoting them on air though. we have the damning messages from a loawsuit. that's ahead.
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if you're a tesla owner, you want to listen to. this hundreds of thousands of you are having vehicles recalled for being, quote, unsafe around intersections. it's a problem affecting vehicles with so-called self-driving feature that tesla had. the software is controversial for years among a lot of advocates. the profit the don project promoted this ad. >> it will run down a child in a school cross walk. swerve into on coming traffic, hit a baby in a stroller, go straight by stopped school buses, ignore do not enter signs, and even drive on the wrong side of the road. tesla's full self-driving is endangering the public with deceptive marketing.
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90% agree this should be banned immediately. why does ntsa approve self-driving? >> joining us is the "early start" anchor christine romans. he said it is not a recall but it's a recall. >> it's the government saying that 300,000 plus vehicles need an immediate fix to make sure they're safe. this is self-driving safety here. let me tell what you full self-driving is. this is beta software, a real world testing program that is essentially and a half gates local roads, steering, braking, acceleration and requires a driver to be prepared to take over at any moment. but in the safety recall report from ntsa, they outline numerous instances where it doesn't work. tesla is saying there may be 18 warranty cases number injuries or accidents. maybe 18 warranty issues about this self-driving software. people pay $15,000 for this. people who are really owe fish
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nad -- into the self-driving in autos, they love this stuff. they want to be a part of this beta. the government is stepping in and saying there needs to be a recall. elon musk has not addressed this at length. he did, on twitter, of course, mention that it's not really a recall. it's an update. tesla pushed back against ntsa earlier but then said, yes, we'll do this recall which elon musk is not calling a recall. >> still a recall. >> so many cars have computer software in them now. i think is just the future. >> there is a lot going on for elon musk. he just won a case, a shareholder lawsuit against him in california. stock was down big time last year. but it is up this year. down on this report here. he's fighting people who trying to unionize at a facility in
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buffalo. he fired them for, you know, not being good workers parentally. so -- >> i believe they were engineers which is important to this story. >> exactly. there is a lot going on in musk land. this is the latest. >> there is. and also on the ukraine front as well. >> thank you. >> good news for tesla drivers. thanks so much. all right. also this morning, we have been tracking the recues all week t -- rescues all week in and out of syria. you're seeing people that survived more than ten days trapped beneath rubble. sanjay gupta is on the ground. he spoke to a team that rescued a boy after 228 hours. also this -- >> at that moment, kind of was preparing myself to be killed. i said i'm going to get killed. but these are kids. these are 18-year-olds, 19-year-olds. >> ahead, a cnn exclusive. a michigan state professor describes his face-to-face encount we are the mass shooter.
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>> translator: how is my mother? >> translator: everyone is well. everyone is waiting for you. i'm coming to you. >> translator: did everyone escape okay? >> translator: they're all well. everything is well. they're waiting for you. they're all waiting for you. >> all is well. that's a 33-year-old quake survivor talking to his family by phone from his hospital bed. he spent 260 hours, ten days under the rubble. it is the latest story of survival. this woman was discovered a few hours earlier. rescuers hope they will find more survivors like them. the time is running out. cnn's dr. sanjay gupta joins us live from turkey where rescues are still on going. sanjay, you spoke to a crew who
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rescued this 13-year-old boy. what more do they have to tell you? >> i got to tell you, these stories are really -- they're incredible. obviously, so much tragedy out here. people rising up. this crew, i want you to keep in mind as you hear the story, it was 228 hours, almost ten days into this earthquake. they were, frankly, they were on sort of the recovery part of an operation. not necessarily rescue part of the operation. so in this particular area, thinking they're going to do a recovery, and when they tell me the story of what happened next, they got really emotional. i want you to hear it for yourself. >> translator: the excavator and found the kid room. then we found his report card. i took his report card with me and gave it to the crew. the report card told us that we were in the right place. it was shown to the brot brother-in-law who said you're in the right place. so we continued digging in that spot. about half an hour later, after
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the excavator was lifted, i saw him in a slight up and down motion and i said stop! there his eyes were open and he was looking at me. i said he must have died with his eyes open. then i ran to him and he said, brother! when i heard him say brother, i said, he's alive! come quickly. >> reporter: did you expect that you would find anybody alifeve that point? >> translator: when we arrived there, we started waiting for him. but our thinking was that he wouldn't be alive but dead. but he was alive. it was happiness. happiness -- beyond happiness. he was alive and we got him out immediately. it was perfect. the emotions just can't be described. >> reporter: the work was so tedious. they had to rescue him and do it quickly. they were able to do it within five minutes after realizing that he was alive. again, the people throw around the world miracle a lot.
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ten days without any water, without new food, it's remarkable. he had a dramatic injury to his left leg. in fact, as they describe it, his left leg was essentially gone. so when they put him on the stretcher, they put him face down. they didn't want him to go through the psychological trauma realizing he didn't have a leg. 13 years old. he was flown to the largest tra trauma hospital and the reports are he's going to recover. another remarkable story. i think this is going to change how with he think about how long people can survive. typically you thought 100 hours maybe without water ten days? we'll see. these are remarkable stories. >> unbelievable at this point to still be doing rescue missions. dr. sanjay gupta, thank you so much for this reporting. >> so amazing. what sara said the other day. we keep talking about 220 hours. the reason they do that is because each hour that goes on further is less of a likelihood
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that they'll find people. that's why they're saying that instead of nine days or whatever. >> yeah. unusual. >> amazing. >> sanjay, thank you for that. also in the u.s., we're learning more about fox news stars who privately blasted former president trump's election fraud claims claiming they were bogus but saying something new on air. we have new court documents revealed. we'll break them down for you on air next. and poppy is in it utah having fun ahead of the nba all star game. she'll join us live with the preview next hour. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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my cholesterol is borderline. so i take garlique to help maintain healthy cholesterol safely and naturally. and it's odor free. i'm taking charge of my cholesterol with garlique. new this morning, some of the biggest and top executives at fox news were privately making fun of former president trump's claims about election fraud even as the network was allowing the lies to be promoted on air. that is according to damning messages in a new court filing out yesterday. they're included in the $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit against fox news. they show that tucker karlsson, shawn hannity brutally mocked
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the 2020 election lies that trump and his add liteam was pu at the time. the attorney in and out of the trump white house was, quote, lying, and he, quote, caught her doing so. sidney is a complete nut. no one will work with her. ditto for rudy. he said our viewers are good people and they believe it. joining us is the senior media reporter. it's remarkable to see the text messages and also to see what is being said publicly. i was covering the white house at the time. to see how white house officials are watching to see what fox says about the election. >> i think the messages exposed fox as a propaganda network. that's what they do at the core. they show in excruciating detail the highest ranking executives at fox news, rupert murdoch, suzanne scott, the ceo, tucker carlson, laura ingraham, they knew, they privately knew the
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election claim frauds -- fraud claims from the trump team were nonsense. they used very harsh language to describe them. but they allowed the lies to take hold on the network's air. and they show, the messages show that the talents over at fox news and the executives were very worried after the election of the audience rebelling. that they were going to news max, you remember that donald trump was attacking fox news saying turn the channel. go to this news max channel which is saturating the airwaves with election denialism. they were worried about this. and not only did they turn a blind eye to the election lies, but they even in some cases tried cracking down on those fact checking trump. there is one case where white house correspondent fact checked trump and tucker carlson and shawn hannity were talking about getting her fired. that's how lacking of basic journalistic ethics were at place in fox news. the messages really expose it. >> we've seen what fox said
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about this. they said there will be a lot of noise and confusion generated by dominion and the private equity owners, the core of the case is about the freedom of the press and freedom of speech. >> yeah, briefly, can you remind us why dominion cares about this? that's why this lawsuit matters. >> along with the election conspiracy theories is focused on dominion. basically, focused on the voting technology companies suggesting that they may have allowed the election to be rigged. and so they are arguing that it was because fox news advanced the risk and it is because of business interests and we're seeing the messages come tout day. -- come out today. >> thank you very much, oliver. and cnn news continues right now. >> they better run to me when i walk in a bank. when i walk in the bank, if it that manager is sitting there when i get, there yo
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