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top of a new hour on cnn newsroom. good to have you. i'm victor blackwell. five former memphis police officers charged in the fatal beating of tyre nichols pleaded not guilty in their first court appearance. all five were arraigned together. they did not speak. some wore masks. the men faced charges of second degree murder, assault, kidnapping, and misconduct. during today's arraignment, the judge stressed the need for patience.
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>> be patient, work with your attorneys, cooperate with them, meet with them, make sure if there are any theys, that these delays are not on account of any of your actions. to those in attendance, this case can take some time. we ask for your continued patience and continued civility in this case. we understand there may be some high emotions in this case, but we ask that you continue to be patient with us. everyone involved wants this case to be concluded as quickly as possible. but it's important for you all to understand that each one of these defendants have an absolute right to a fair trial. >> the attorney for former officer bean made his case to reporters after the hearing. >> he has the ability as a law enforcement officer to make a lawful arrest based off of a
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call coming in. that's where we are standing right now, that he was doing his job at that time, and he never struck him. >> i think you hear his voice consistently saying, sit up so you can get air and things like that. i think you hear him consistently saying that. and at no point did he do anything that would be different from a person who was doing his job. >> cnn's nick valencia joins me now with the nichols' family's reaction to this. his mother said, i wanted them to see my face. i wanted them to look me in my eyes. >> reporter: this was a big day, the first time that we have seen the officers since the video of that brutal beating, and the first time that the family of tyre nichols was in the same room as the men accused of killing their son. and we have seen the family operate with such courage and grace throughout this entire experience with the mother doing
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so far as to say she believes god sent her son here with a higher mission and higher purpose. and today, she was on a mission of her own. she spoke to reporters after the arraignment. >> i want each and every one of those police officers to able to look me in the face. they haven't done that yet. they couldn't each do that today. they didn't even have the courage to look at me in my face after what they did to my son. so they're going to see me at every court date, everyone, until we get justice for my son. >> reporter: she said she'll be there at every court date, and the judge say thing will take some time to play out. the district attorney having to prove that the officers knew their actions would lead to the death of tyre nichols. mean while, a sprawling investigation, now investigating
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pending and past cases of these officers who have been dismissed by the police department, amounting to about 1 400 cases they're investigating. and there is an additional 20 hours of audio and video not released that we should expect to see in the coming weeks. so this, for a lot of reasons, is just the beginning here, victor. >> nick, thank you. joining me now is the chairman of the memphis city council. sir, thank you for being with me. i want your reaction to what we heard for the attorney for tadarius bean. he said his chinlt has the right to make a lawful arrest and was doing his job d pointed out that he never struck him, but said he was doing his job. you watched the tape. what do you think? >> it is quite problematic for m him to say the officer was just doing his job. it's quite problematic if that
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failure to intervene was a part of the training he received as an officer of the memphis police department. >> obviously, the police department has some work to do to regain the trust and confidence of the people there in memphis. i wonder your degree of confidence in the chief, c.j. davis, leading through this next period, how she's handled it thus far, and if she's the right person to make the changes and lead the department. >> one of the things that can't take place in a situation like this is the person has to be physical. we are in public positions, and it does no good from a public perception stand point if the public feels they are not being communicated with. i think the police chief and the administration as a whole can do a better job of communicating and walking the public through this scenario. we understand there are limits as to what she can say to what she can answer.
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but i don't think that it's helpful for the public to be -- for the public to view that the city and the administration and the police department is being see ilent in this issue. part of that trust is communication, and that's not taking place. >> is that she's not coming to council meetings and explaining it to you? what would you like to see more specifically that you're not? >> the police chief was at the last counsel meeting on tuesday. and it's not the trust of the council that's important but the trust of this community. it's the trust of this community that says hey, when the police department needs the public's help, that the city's police department has found themselves to be trustworthy with the trust of this community.
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>> the training necessary for the memphis police department is not free, and it ain't cheap. will there be the money to put toward the training, and when you allocate the money to the police department, and i spoke with our law enforcement analyst john miller about this, taking that money and putting it into training is sometimes money not put on the streets for an additional officer or for tangible resources. will the city council allocate the money necessary? does it have the money necessary to add training for the police department? >> we have to -- we have to find that balance between providing the necessary training, and public safety. the police's budget has, in the time that i've been on the council, pretty much has increased without exception every year. so i'm not going to believe that there is not room in the budget
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for additional training. so the council will have to do so. the administration will have to present us a budget that talks about adequate training to prevent this from happening going forward. >> martavius jones, thank you so much. a shreveport, louisiana officer is charged with negligent homicide for the death of an aarmed black man named alonzo bagley. when police got to his home, bagley ran off, jumped from a balcony and ran a bit more. the body cam footage is from officer alexander tyler, who has since been arrested. it is disturbing. this clip begins as tyler is exiting the apartment building and pursuing alonzo bagley.
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[ inaudible ] [ gunfire ] >> oh,you shot him. >> the body cam of the office we are tyler shows what happens moments later as bagley lay dying there. again, the footage is graphic, it is disturbing. officer tyler can be heard pleading with bagley to stay with him. >> you're good. you're good. >> come on, dude. come on, man. >> 1018, 1018! >> come on, dude. stay with me. stay with me. >> more pressure. >> stay with me. >> that officer tyler's court hearing, an investigator says
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bagley's hands could be seen raised there, just in the split second after the shot is fired. joining me now is dhu thompson, the defense attorney for the officer arrested, alexander tyler. thank you for your time here. i'm going to start with the basis pedestrian question here, why did your client shoot? >> well, again, first and foremost, thank you for having me. again, this is a tragic and unfortunate situation for all involved. we're certainly disappointed by officer tyler's arrest, and if necessary, we're prepared to defend officer tyler in court. and i'm limited on what i can comment, but i can comment on the evidence brought forth in the bond hearing yesterday. and from what it shows is that officers responded to a domestic disturbance call, which are always highly charged atmospheres and dangerous by nature. and from the evidence, it shows that mr. bagley fled to the back of the bedroom, grabbed an
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object off the night stand, which officers were not aware what that was. jumped off the balcony and took off running. the testimony further showed that the officers gave chase, lost sight of him. when officer tyler engages mr. bagley again, as the state police investigator testified, it was almost simultaneously in a close encounter with less than one second to make a split decision. officer tyler was placed in a situation where he had to make that call. it's a tragic situation for all involved. however, that's the position we're placed in today with having to defend these charges. >> you say that there was something grabbed from the dresser in the bedroom. we watched the body camera video, but between that moment where you say there was something grabbed, bagley jumps off the balcony. your client runs out of the apartment, down the stairs,
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around the building, and then in the direction of bagley. does your client claim that there was something in his hand at the time he fired that shot? >> again, commenting just strictly from what the bond hearing evidence brought forth, the encounter was almost instant, as the investigator indicated less than one second, and simultaneously they're coming at each other in the same direction. so, again, the facts are going to have to play out in court as faas what officer tyler reasonably believed, based on the totality of the circumstances, which is very important and has to be taken into account what all occurred, and not just that specific encounter and moment. so, again, unfortunately, and i'm speaking in general terms, police officers on a day-to-day basis are faced with dangerous situations, and at times put in a position where they have to make a life or death split second decision. so that's the facts in evidence
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that will have to be drawn out in court. >> listen, i know you're in a specific position here where you don't want to violate attorney/client privilege. you are representing your client. i appreciate you answering these questions. i have a few more. did officer tyler have at taser with him? was he equipped with a taser that night? >> i don't know if he was fully equipped a t that moment. my appreciation is that he was. >> okay. i want to read hear from the use of force policy from shreveport. we can put this line up on the screen. it says that members shall not unnecessarily draw or carelessly handle a firearm. i spoke with chief ramsey, who led the departments in d.c. and philadelphia, he says he understands why the gun might have been drawn initially when bagley ran into the bedroom. but then to run with the gun
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drawn, as i said, back out the apartment, down the stairs and back in the other direction, is he confident that he handled that gun properly, before we get to the use of it? >> well, again, you're going to have to -- speaking in general terms, police officers certain ly -- you may get five opinions one way, five the other. but to the extent of what our manuals provide for, with the national standards, all of that will have to play out in court as to whether or not the drawing of the weapon for clearing buildings, stairwells, all of that will be in trial, for sure. >> basic question here, this is section e, subsection a of the shreveport, louisiana order of use of force. members are authorized to use
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lethal force to protect themselves or others for what is reasonably believed to be a threat of death or serious bodily injury. i have not heard you say it, but did your client believe that his -- that he was in some reasonable threat of death or serious bodily injury? >> well, again, you know, coming out of the bond evidence from yesterday, it appears from the videos and the state police investigator's testimony that my client was put literally in a split second, less than one second decision to make from a suspect that they were investigating on a domestic disturbance call, who they properly identified as the individual at issue. and the evidence at the bond hearing shows that the individual was noncompliant to the investigative efforts. so that will have to be drawn out in trial. but in general terms, again,
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officers are sometimes placed in split second decisions. >> i understand that. >> any narrative that says, well, they're unarmed or anything to that effect. an unarmed individual does not mean they're not a threat. so it's all case by case, very fact specific and we reiterate our position that iffer forced to defend this case in court, we feel confident in our position. >> dhu thompson, i thank you for answering my questions. >> yes, sir, any time. thank you for having me. >> thank you so much. ohio's governor said they found no contamnants in the homes that they have tested after the train derailment. but is that enough to ease the concern to the people who live there? i'll speak with one, in just a moment. and joe biden is preparing for a trip to poland one year since russia invaded ukraine. the message he plans to deliver to allies, next.
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molts ago, the white house gave new details on joe biden's trip to poland next week. a week from today will mark one year since russian president vladamir putin invaded ukraine, bringing war to the west for the first time in generations. priscilla alvarez joins us from the white house. tell us more about what we learned about the president and his trip, how he's going to mark this somber anniversary. >> reporter: well, this trip is going to follow the themes of the last year, and the position of the administration over the last year, which is providing the support to ukraine and standing by ukraine over the course of this war. now, the president is expected to meet with the polish president and thank him for the assistance that country has provided already to ukraine, be it humanitarian or security. the president will also be talking about, on tuesday, just
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that, standing by the country and continuing to provide support. now, we heard from ukrainian president zelenskyy earlier today at the security conference where he appeared via video, and he told countries to speed up, that they cannot afford to lose time. and during the white house press briefing moments ago, we heard kirby respond to exactly that. take a listen. >> one year on, how many millions flown into ref juge inside and outside the country? how many soldiers killed? how many hospitals and schools bombed? can't blame for president zelenskyy wants more. he's a commander in chief in a time of war, a war he didn't ask for, and certainly no justification for it. we understand that. we also understand the clock, and we know that time is critical. >> reporter: as you heard there,
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the white house really noting that this is a critical moment as we hit that one-year anniversary of that war. so this is a visit next week that will mark that occasion and allow them to provide and urge support from allies. >> priscilla alvarez for us, thank you. let's go to ohio now. the railway company that owns the train that caused environmental chaos is facing at least eight class action lawsuits. the people in east palestine, ohio are anxious that toxins from the crash and chemical burns, it is damaging their health. some say the air smells like burning plastic and they have had difficulty breathing. today, the biden administration is deploying federal medical experts to assess whether it is dangerous for people to return to their homes. but governor mike dewine says the public water supply there is safe. >> the testing results from east palestine's municipal water
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source have come back, and the results are that drinking water, testing those five wells that go into the community's system, those five wells have all come back clean. the water is safe to drink. >> my next guest has not returned to her home in east palestine out of fear of the chemicals that she says are still lingering there. she and her two kids have moved in with her mother. ashley mccullum, thank you for being with me. i want you to hear from mike regan, the epa administrator, on what she says science says about the air there in your hometown. >> since the fire went out, epa air monitoring has not detected any levels of health concern in the community attributed to the train derailment. >> after hearing that from regan and about the water from dewine, tell me why you don't feel safe.
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all right, ashley, we'll try to get her back up. until then, i have read some of the descriptions -- good to have you with us, associate professor at the university of pittsburgh school of public health. you heard the concerns of scratchy throats, some people have tingling tongues. what are they feeling, if not the impact of the chemicals that burn there? >> i think they could be feeling the effects of the chemicals that remain there. in any sort of disaster, chemical spill situation, we have to think of it in three stages, the degree of damage that is sort of in that initial risk of fire, explosion, et cetera. then there is sort of the
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threatening to life and injury complications that would be there with inhalation to chemicals that might remain in the atmosphere. and then a longer term, chronic exposure to traces of chemicals, albeit smaller amounts that might remain in the environment, finding their way into drinking water over time, remaining in soil that could, you know, be at risk for anyone working in the soil, young children, et cetera. >> all right. so doctor, i'm going to do a little bit of producing and directing here, because we have ashley back. let's see if we can either put both of them up on the screen -- there we go. y'all anticipated. i appreciate it. ashley, can you hear me now? >> yes,ky hear you. >> so first, tell me why you don't feel safe going back home. >> it's kind of like a sense, you can sense something wrong if you're smelling something like that, even if the tests are
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coming back, you're still feeling dizzy, weak, severe headaches, tingling mouth. it's not okay with two young children. i don't want to expos them to that. >> is that something you feel when you get back into town or something you feel when you're back in your home? >> when i get to a point going into town, even my son has complained of a stomach pain out of nowhere. it's the same kind of area we've been crossing over, about 15 minutes of being there, you start to have symptoms, what it's dry mouth, tipngling, headaches, some people are having nose bleeds, rashes. it's pretty severe, if you stay in my house longer than a half hour, it's worse. >> doctor, i wonder, is it possible that -- you're the expert, i'm not -- but is it possible that what people are feeling is not related
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specifically to the air and water quality there now, but symptoms of the acute exposure from the initial burn of these chemicals, is that possible? >> it's possible that some of that has been leftover. now, if ashley had left town and she's better when she's not in town, that would sort of say, okay, that initial stage has resolved itself. if they return when she comes back, then there's clearly something still remaining that has some sort of effect on her. >> ashley, i've got you both up now. i have asked my producers to give you an opportunity to ask the doctor a question, since you're the one living there in east palestine. what is your question for the doctor? >> since the chemical is still present in town, should we be frequently checking our homes, even say in a month from now?
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and if it does get better, should we still be doing frequent air and water testing or anything that would give us an answer that it's getting better? and should we be testing -- >> go ahead and finish your question. >> should we be testing surfaces, as well? i'm not sure if they attach to surfaces or if a special cleaner would have to be presented. >> right, right. so there is a couple of levels of question there, so you mentioned that the chemical could still be in town. i say that there are probably multiple chemicals, and that's one of the sort of difficulties, is we don't know which specific chemicals or agents are those that we should be most concerned about. which of them are present in the highest concentrations. i think there should be some long-term monitoring program of people's well water, drinking
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water, soil samples. one of the things that concerns me is that there is a large sort of reservoir or pool of chemical that is located very close to the derailment and the spill that can continue to migrate over time to perhaps maybe reach well water in the future or contaminate the soil that then poses a risk that way. so i think, you know, you should watch these things over time. that way with a good monitoring system, you would be able to respond to them in some way. >> ashley, doctor, thank you both for being with me. and thank you for dealing with the technical issues there. all right. breaking news. six people are dead in a series of shooting incidents in rural mississippi. we're just getting details in. a live report is coming up. you't into saving money. cuz...
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just minutes away from a live report on the breaking news that we brought you before the break. six people reported dead. this is in rural northern mississippi. we're talking about 30 miles south of memphis, tennessee. so stay with us. we have a report coming up. learning some new details right now. until then, we're seeing both
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heartbreak and hope in turkey and syria 11 days after that powerful earthquake. so far, nearly 44,000 people have died. most of those deaths in turkey. turkey's vice president says there are now fewer than 200 search and rescue operations still active in the earthquake zone. despite that, the miraculous rescues continue. in the past few hours, we learned of a 45-year-old turkish man pulled from the debris alive, 278 hours after the earthquake hurt. we're joined now from istanbul. to hear there are still people being pulled alive is no less than a miracle. tell us about the situation there now. >> reporter: it is absolutely a miracle, victor. i don't think anyone expected to hear of survivors still being pulled alive from the rubble
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this far on. we're seeing these remarkable videos of people being rescued. this is a moment of hope for the thousands of people still waiting for news of their loved ones. earlier today, we saw video of a man, 33 years old, he was rescued after being buried for 261 hours. the first thing he did when he was pulled out is call his friend, whose phone number he had memorized. take a listen. >> how is my mother and everyone? >> they're all waiting for you. everyone is well. they're all waiting for you. i'm coming to you. >> did everyone escape okay? >> everyone is well. they're waiting for you. all waiting for you. >> let me hear their voices. >> i'm driving. i'm coming to you, brother. >> thank you to each one of you. may god be happy with you a thousand times.
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>> reporter: he said that there are now less than 200 search and rescue operations underway according to authorities here. but still, thousands of personnel working on rescuing potential survivors. of course, these rescuers are growing few and far between. for those waiting news for the loved ones, this is the difficult reality they have to grasp. >> conscious and coherent. amazing. thank you so much. all right. now we have those details about the breaking news out of mississippi. six people are dead after a series of shootings in tate county. again, just 30 minutes south of memphis, tennessee. cnn's nick valencia is getting the updates on this. >> reporter: we just heard from the sheriff there who said the suspect has been taken into custody. he was found in his vehicle, believed to be outside of his residence. he was found with multiple guns. according to the sheriff, who spoke to our national desk, there are a series of shootings in a community of about 300
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people 30 miles south of memphis, with the first call coming in at 11:00 a.m. local time. again, six shot around this community. the first happened at a local store. this individual then went to the home believed to be of his ex-wife and opened fire there. and then traveled to another area and continued on with the shooting. they have been able to connect at least three of these victims to the gunman, and according to the sheriff, they're working to identify if there is any connection with the other victims to the shooter. again, that shooter has been taken into custody, not identified so far. just another violent day in america here, as we hear of another mass shooting here on friday. >> six dead. tate county, northern mississippi. nick, thank you for the reporting. if you get more, we'll bring you back. prosecutors in the alec murdoch case are wrapping up. we're live, next.
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this could be some crucial information, randi. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely, victor. it's been fascinating to listen to him. a lot of details. we're talking about investigators analyzing data, and one of the takeaways is when he left his house at 9:06 p.m., it's believed the victims were dead by then. as he was driving to go to his mother's house, as he said, he slowed down, according to the gps data on his car, and he slowed down at the very spot investigators say they found maggie murdaugh's phone in the woods. so this data suggests that perhaps he slowed down to dispose of that phone. also, at some point during the night, he's driving around much faster than he is at other times during the day, about 81 miles per hour was his top speed. there were also questions about the time he spent at his mother's house that night. he's been a real sticking point
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between the defense and the prosecution. here's what the data showed. >> the data points for the suburban, it looks like it went toward -- a little bit in to the grass closer to the woodline over here. that's going to be at 9:22. >> what time is the arrival at almeena? >> 9:22. this is when we first saw movement. this will be alex leaving. it's really critical, because it shows he was at the residence, his mother's house, for about 21 minutes. but he told investigators just in an interview played this week in court he may have been there for as long as 90 minutes. and the caretaker for his mother testified he was there for 15 to 20 minutes. so another takeaway, victor, is when the 911 call was made at 10:06 p.m. that night. he says he had just found his son and wife dead at the
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♪ call one eight hundred, eight million ♪ a new court filing reveals what some of the biggest names at fox really felt about donald trump and his baseless election fraud claims. they were chronically peddling for him on air. the documents also show that anyone who veered from the stolen election narrative faced repercussions behind the scenes, and we're learning all of this from the dominion voting systems $1.6 billion lawsuit against the conservative network. cnn senior media reporting oliver darcie is with us. i don't know if it is unbelievable, but it is jaw dropping what we are learning from the documents. >> these documents really expose
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fox news for the dishonest media organization that it is. i mean they show in damning detail that fox news executives like rupert murdoch as well as sean hannity, tucker carlson, laura ingraham, mocked behind the scenes but simultaneously they were allowed to gain a foot hole on fox news airways. i want to read to you some of the comments they were making behi behind the scenes because it underscores how much disdain they viewed the narrative from the trump campaign. tucker carlson says in a text, sidney powell is lying, by the way. i caught her. it is insane. sean hannity says that whole narrative that sydney was pushing, i did not believe it for one second. rupert murdoch to suzanne scott, all very well for sean hannity to tell you he was in despair about trump, but what did he
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tell his viewers? these messages really show that fox news executives, fox news hosts knew exactly what was true, what was not, but they did not present the truth to their audience. i think this is just a really damning mountain of evidence for the network, victor. >> and then if it was the white house correspondent was trying to fact check something on twitter, and there was a host who says, she should be fired for that. i'm paraphrasing here. get back to the line. what is fox saying about this, if anything? >> well, it is not just any host either. it is tucker carlson, you know. >> sure. >> the top-rated network host who is texting sean hannity, the second highest host on the network, saying, "how can we get her fired" and sean hannity says he has brought this to the attention of the fox news ceo suzanne scott. now, the network is not commenting on the specific matter although a person familiar with it did tell me jackie heinrich, the correspondent, was totally blind
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