>> reporter: as the network repeatedly promoted former president trump's 2020 election fraud claims to millions of their viewers. >> every american should be angry, you should be outraged. you should be worried. you should be concerned at what has happened in the election and the lead-up to this election. >> reporter: privately top anchors and executives mocked trump's lies, calling them ludicrous, really crazy stuff and totally off the rails. the revelations coming from hundreds of pages of newly released evidence in the legal filing as part of the dominion voting's lawsuit against fox news. in this tex exchange two weeks after the elections tucker carlson texting other fox news hosts, sidney powell is lying, by the way, i caught her. it's insane he says about trump's lawyer sidney powell and rudy giuliani's unfounded claims. sidney is a complete nut, no one will work with her. ditto with rudy, laura ingraham wrote back. tucker responds, it's unbelievably offensive to me.

our viewers are good people and they believe it. even as those same hosts went on the air arguing completely otherwise. >> all right. these election challenges are still going on and disturbing irregularities have been found and must be investigated to the fullest. >> reporter: on election night the network first to call arizona for biden. >> the fox news decision desk is calling arizona for joe biden. that is a big get for the biden campaign. >> reporter: as trump's baseless conspiracy theories started to take hold. >> this is a fraud on the american public. so we'll be going to the u.s. supreme court. >> reporter: carlson wrote his producer warning that trump could easily destroy us if we play it wrong. the court documents showing a scramble behind the scenes as viewers rebel the against fox for calling the contest in biden's favor and a course correction internally to prioritize profitability over the truth. after fox news reporter jacqui

fact-checked it, tucker carlson please get her fired, seriously, what the "f." it's measurely hurting the company, the stock price is down. fox news argues the court filing contains cherry-picked comments. >> was the 2020 election a miracle? honestly we don't know. we don't expect to get an answer to it tonight. >> reporter: and the documents revealing on january 6th trump tried to call this to fox business to get on air but the network refused saying it would be irresponsible and could impact a lot of people in a negative way. this public versus private narrative extended all the way up to the highest levels of fox, rupert murdoch according to these court documents, he did not believe trump's election lies and not only did he say in an email weeks after the election that the trump team's claims were really crazy stuff and damaging, but he even

floated the idea of having tucker carlson, sean hannity and laura ingraham appear together in primetime to declare joe biden as the rightful winner of the election. something that never ended up happening. >> thank you. natasha alford. joey jackson, errol lewis and chapin fay. this is not new. this has always been fox's mission statement at any cost, keep the audience. they were not set up as a news organization and did not follow the rules of a news organization. they were set up as a ratings machine so their biggest fear is and has always been, i was told this directly many times by roger ailes, you cannot lose the audience. you cannot lose the audience so tell them whatever they want to hear. make them feel good about their world belief. do not challenge their world belief. and the fact that it's now in black and white for everybody to read, that's the stunning part.

>> it really is remarkable. there is a place, even as a journalist, a place to be concerned about the stock price of your parent company or whether or not some politician is going to take on your organization or even whether or not you're going to lose viewers to your rival, in this case newsmax. that is not the newsroom. that's not supposed to dictate the questions you ask in the white house briefing room and not supposed to dictate what the statisticians on election night are going to tell you about what happened in arizona or anywhere else and it's so completely took control of this organization they just completely lost their way and will pay a price. they are fighting hard to not let a jury get their hands on this because a jury of ordinary new yorkers or delaware residents or americans in general, when they see what went on here, they're not going to like it at all. >> speaking of newsmax, they were so afraid after the election that newsmax was peeling off their viewers, because newsmax was tacking to

the right and saying, you know, it's possible -- even crazier, worse, more garbage information. so tucker carlson texts his producer, do the executives understand how much credibility and trust we've lost with our audience? we're playing with fire for real. and what errol was saying -- i'll get to the jacqui part later. when a real journalist sneaks in, they don't like that. they were worried newsmax would steal their viewers. >> it's a real concern and like both of you have had stated sort of, i mean, this is the problem with corporate media and a corporate america, the profit is what drives everyone and the way you make that profit is keeping the audience, keep the eyeballs, fighting for clicks and a lot of companies, i don't think this is a fox news problem, an american problem of the tension between news, audiences and entertainment. i would argue a lot of shows

that build themselves on a lot of networks as news -- >> it doesn't always lead to a insurrection. when you masquerade as a news organization, the people, your viewers, believe that they're getting real information. and so the crying shame is when you know the real information, you're mocking the guests who come on and one minute later you're touting them as though they're giving your viewers information and by the way it shows how little respect they have for their viewers, they don't trust their viewers to know the truth, to be able to handle the truth. i guess think think their viewers are too fragile or dumb to see the truth if they had just given it to them. >> i think it's a big problem. i really do. i would find it, you know, a little hard to blame fox news, you know, for the insurrection although there's plenty of plame to go around that. a disastrous point in our history in my opinion. >> i'm not blaming them. i'm just blaming the misinformation and you play with fire and we saw what happens. >> agreed. >> one more thing, natasha.

there are real journalists there and go. one is named jacki heinrich. this is the treatment she got, tucker told sean hannity, please get her fired. seriously, what the "f," i'm actually shocked. it needs to stop immediately like tonight. it's measurably hurting the company. the stock price is down, not a joke. in other words, don't let the facts get out there. >> it's egregious, terrifying and certainly not something that would make a real journalist want to gravitate towards that organization so god bless the ones who are actually there trying to do their job. i think history is informative. 1968. kerner commission report looking at riots and racial division and say the media played a role in that. the media perpetuated the idea of two americas and didn't really report about what was happening in black communities

and therefore there was a lack of understanding across groups, and so fox news perpetuates that legacy today. feeding this idea that there are two americas and, you know, again, insulting their audience's intelligence. >> errol just said that fox news is going to pay the price. are they? >> i really do believe that and i believe that sincerely. so listen to these word, right, knowledge of falsity or reckless disregard as to the truth, knowledge of falsity, reckless disregard as to the truth. you have a solemn responsibility as a journalist. it's one thing if you're reporting fair comment and that is with respect to what the president is espousing, believing and his crew is believing as to the election. it's another thing if you're embracing that as fact and delivering that to your audience. you have knowledge as to that falsity, clearly and if you don't there's reckless disregard as to the truth. why do i say that? because around the lawsuit is a legal standard and that is the legal standard upon which this is going to be evaluated and

when you match that legal standard, alisyn, against the facts you're talking about, right, we hear them as journalists going on, oh, real problem, this is the election, is it stolen? doesn't look good but behind the scenes really alluding to people as nut bags, i mean i'm kind of embe embellishing, this is ridiculous. this is damning evidence that errol pointed out they're trying to keep it from a jury but if you get it to people who have reasonable minds and views i think they'll reject this and otherwise indicate that they violated that standard. >> what if fox says this is freedom of the press? >> listen, there is a first amendment right we hole dear and you have a right based upon that first amend to say things you want to say but you know what, you can't defame another person because that's where it crosses the line. you're right to say what you want to say, stops when it impedes somebody else's right. you can't yell fire in a theater. we've all heard that before so

there's limitations. you want to espouse them as fact pay the price because there was knowledge of falsity or reckless disregard of the truth. >> it's interesting because dominion systems are making the case they were roadkill on the way to fox trying to hold its audience and get ratings or make money or whatever they were after. the reality is this is a company that operates in 26 states and say they've lost out on over $100 million worth of business because some say dominion are unreliable. they're run by hugo chavez's ghost or something like that for whatever reason and say they've lost out on business. defamation, per se, they're saying there's some tangible harm here and they want to take that to a jury and asking for over a billion dollars. >> quick point, alisyn, the reason that's so significant because you have to establish damages. it's one thing just to espouse things and no one cares and doesn't represent any true detriment to your company but

another thing to espouse things that damage you and that's why they're suing for a billion and change and impaired their brand and it was not true. >> it will be interesting to see what happens next. thank you all for that. okay, when we come back the stunt that tiger woods pulled the other day that may make you wonder whether he's 47 or 7. all right, i will a tell you about it. he handed his playing partner justin thomas a tampon after he outdrove him in a pga tour event. translation, you play like a girl, he's, of course, one of the biggest names in sports and also the dad of an athletic daughter, so we'll discuss it all next. as soon as we brought the farmer's dog in, her r skin was better, she was more active. if i can invest in her healthth and be proactive, i think it's worth it. visit betterforthem.com

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woods says he did not mean to offend anyone. >> it was supposed to be fun and games but obviously it hasn't turned out that way and if i offended anybody it was not the case, it was just friends having fun and as i said if i offended anybody in any way, shape or form, i'm sorry. it was not intended to be that way. it's just, you know, we play pranks on one another all the time and virally i think this did not come across that way but between us, it's different. >> joining me "cnn sports" analyst christine brennan. her new column calls out tiger woods. christine, great to see you. so, christine, why can't this just be a sophomoric joke between two friends? >> it could, alisyn. as i wrote in the column and as i'll say to you right now it's certainly not the biggest deal in the world. we have many other issues. you've been talking about them on the show that are more

important than tiger woods and a tampon. a tampongate as we're calling it. the issue here, though, and you said it in -- before the commercial, he's a 47-year-old man. he's not 17, he's not 7. he is the father of a sports playing daughter, a soccer player, 15-year-old sam, the idea that in 2023 that father, 47-year-old father is doing tampon jokes with a colleague in the workplace, of course, visible for all to see, obviously also the best known golfer probably ever certainly one of the top two with jack nicklaus, a role model for many at a time, alisyn, when the game of golf is absolutely desperate to attract some of the millions of title ix women who are being pumped out of colleges with disposable income and athletic ability to play the game but the game for generations has had a stop sign up saying, no, women,

you can't play so throw it all together and it was worthy of a column and a conversation here. >> yeah. christine, thank you for all of that. that really spells out, gives it more context, so let me bring in our panel to see what they have to say about this. lz, anything funnier than the old tampon joke? >> you know, it felt more like a running joke, right, like it triggered something they had discussed previously, right, and so he was supposed to get the interaction right away, listen, christine's right. it's not the most important thing in the world, but it should be important to tiger because he's an ambassador of the sport. he's an aambassador of the sports industry and before we even get to his daughter, how about michele, you know, who was on tour and took all that heat and all that pressure of being a woman out on tour. like he was cognizant of that. he was playing well on tour when she was going through that and it didn't seem as if any of that

registered at any point when he decided to pull that joke. >> errol. >> when he starts out by saying if i offended anyone, you want to cringe. here is someone who is not aware of how to do an apology. you put yourselves in the shoes of someone offended and voice the pain you have caused and then maybe you try and sort of, you know, talk about what you're going to do in the future. he doesn't take it all that seriously. it's worth noting on this same course, the riviera where he made his debut at age 16. apparently that's emotionally maybe where he stopped growing up, arrested development and, you know, he doesn't seem to have moved much beyond that. i bet his daughter is mortified. >> i don't know fitz an arrested development. >> it does feel stunted. it's a joke between friends and i take it at that but on another level knowing what i know about tiger, just from being in the media, he has bad judgment sometimes.

he has bad judgment and so he seems a little stunted. from everything that we've seen between his marriage, between the lack of judgment, between the car accident, between all sorts of things he doesn't always exercise adult judgment. >> it feels like an unforced error, something that was so unnecessary and, again, the choice to make it public is the part that confounds me. you know you're inviting everyone into the conversation when you do this on camera. so, you know, we live in a time where people are criticizing us for being politically correct and so all these conversations about gender happening, and you didn't think this would cause a problem? as a girl, i remember watching sports and seeing that there was a difference in terms of the seriousness that, you know, society treated women in sports, women sports. they just treated it differently than the way that they treated men's sports from money to the excitement to the sense of, you know, community around getting excited about certain games. so i wonder about the little girls who are kind of taking this message already living in a

society where there's shame around having a period and menstruating and i just don't feel good about it, you know. >> yeah, i hear you. >> listen, the reality is all of us are here as a result of the wonderful women in the world, right, and so anything offensive to that, i have to pivot against, right, i have a mom, i have a sister, i have a lovely wife. my only issue is i'm really thinking, it makes me wonder what was the joke played on him that precipitated that? >> i shudder to think, right? i shudder to think what that was. >> and so that's why to some degree i reserve judgment. i want to know what precipitated that and maybe we didn't catch that such that we know what this was all about. >> my imagination was trying to run through the sophomoric jokes from high school of what that could be. >> i was going to say i think it's also important that we don't just solely make it about emotions and say offensive, right, because actually these jokes are attached to a hierarchy that imposes law,

economy, i mean, when you think about like, what was it, the pink tax if you wore a blouse you took it to the dry cleaner, it would cost more. it isn't just about the emotions and feeling offended but part of a larger messages he's undergirding. >> christine, you've been listening to all of this. what about my point he doesn't exercise good judgment in public always. >> oh, you can say that again and again and again. my goodness, the car accident, two years ago, terrible situation, thankfully he lived through it and didn't kill a family as he crossed over the road. basically torching his entire family life and his image back in 2009 with another car accident that led to losing sponsors and many, many people realizing what the mistresses and the divorce that tiger was not the guy they thought he was. golf is very much a boys' club and a boys' world and a man's world and that is something that

the leaders of the game of golf are desperately trying to get women to play the game and tiger irhas done damage to that because you could foresee a situation where there's a young woman who's got so many sports options and, wait a minute, do i want to play a sport where a dude is giving a guy a tampon in 2023? he is responsible for the growth of the game and the joy he's shown to so many. i covered all these majors. he is an incredible player and he has gotten to be, i think, more centered and grounded and nicer, frankly, with all the issues that have come along in his life and that difficult times, he's playing on a leg that has been rebuilt. he's giving it a go again at 47. as we said, it's not the biggest deal in the world but for those who are wondering what the real tiger is, that's the real tiger. yucking it up in a misogynistic way with his daughter at home and let's hope he can try to explain what the heck he meant about you play like a girl to

his daughter and to the girls out there who are watching him. >> christine, are we sure that he meant for the public to see it? i mean, he's putting it into the palm of his friend's hand. could it just have been a private joke between two friends? >> oh, i think that was the case, alisyn, absolutely. he was trying to slip it in there. people haven't seen the video. it's very easy to find and the picture, oh, for sure. >> it was a private joke. for sure you're saying for sure it was a private joke. >> i am certain that he -- in fact, the way he slipped it into his hand made it clear that he understood that he better keep this private. that this is a little secret on the side, which tells us even more. it speaks volumes of he knew he shouldn't do it and he's also tiger woods and the cameras will be on him no matter what so nice try, tiger. that's not going to fly. tiger's had cameras around him since he was a couple of years old playing on "the mike douglas show" with bob hope.

>> well, i see it differently. if it was a private joke i don't want any of my private jokes with my friends broadcast on television. [ laughter ] >> well stated. >> so i see it, i see it a little bit differently. but, you know, whatever. i mean i don't know what more we can say about this. tiger is a phenom but perhaps not on every level of humanity as he exercising the best judgment as he does on the golf course. everybody would agree? >> i think that would be a very fair assessment. >> yes. >> all right. thank you all very much. okay, meanwhile, next we have cnn's presentation of hbo's overtime with bill maher. we will be back on the other side to talk a lot more juicy stuff.

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okay, now i'm going to turn it over to our friends at hbo, each week following "real time with bill maher" bill and his guest answer viewer questions and bring their unique perspectives to it. we're excited to bring you this lively discussion first every friday night so here is "overtime with bill maher." [ cheers and applause ]

>> okay. here we are on cnn. wow, i'm still so excited about this. our panel, tonight, we had christoph waltz. you said when we sat down the last piece i was doing was about people in show business who hate each other. have you been on sites like that? >> well, of course. >> right. >> i've been in sandboxes when i was 5 playing with kids that i hated. it was about playing together, not about hating someone. >> but my point was, you could hate each other and still make something great and they make many movies like that and government should do it too. speaking of movies what does the panel think of the climate activists who glued themselves to the red carpet at the berlin film festival? have you been to it? >> not when someone was glued to the red carpet. [ laughter ] >> are these stunts effective or

just an annoying disruption? i -- >> better than than throwing soup at priceless works of art. i'll take the glue on the carpet. nobody cares. >> was it natural glue? >> vegan. >> it's about sniffing glue. [ laughter ] >> okay. youtube star mr. beast is receiving backlash for -- are you familiar with mr. beast? everyone familiar? >> i'm not. >> no? >> he's super popular. >> he is very -- >> i have heard of mr. beast. never been to cracker barrel but i've heard of mr. beast. for funding cataract surgery -- i did read this story -- for a thousand people. he funded -- yeah, a thousand people needed cataract surgery and this guy is making a fortune as a youtube star. how can you not? [ laughter ] if you can make money and do good for other people, isn't -- okay, i don't know what that question is -- >> he got criticism because he used it for ratings.

the people who got the surgery aren't too -- >> a lot of the tweets were about and these are from some -- somebody in "the washington post" said this, somebody, i think at buzzfeed said this. they were criticizing him because their point is that you should not try to correct yourself if you're blind or deaf or something, that's like ableism. it's not worse to be blind. it's just different and i would say if that was me, please help me. [ laughter ] yes. [ applause ] >> these also weren't involuntary surgeries. >> does the same thing go for literacy? >> ah. great question. [ applause ] nikki haley has called for politicians over 75 years old, oh, yes, to be required to take

a mental health competency test. i wonder who that is aimed at. [ laughter ] both of them, right? >> i think it's both -- i think she's trolling. it allows her to draw attention to biden in a republican primary but subtle hint on trump. they're both older politicians and the competency test is a long campaign and people will assess how they seem. >> but shouldn't we do that for everybody? why just over 75? because -- [ applause ] i mean -- over here my 35-year-old -- >> house of representatives. >> there's only one age requirement. the constitution has a minimum age and that was because they were so worried people passing things on to their famous sons at the time. there's no maximum age but we have that for pilots and other things but, again, i think it's hard. if you've covered these thing, it's hard to run for president. we'll see how they do and decide at the debates and other forums

whether they got it. >> as don lemon told us on cnn women actually can't run for president because he said we're past our prime once we get to our 40s but since you have to be 35 to run it's a tight window between 35 and 40. [ applause ] >> but it presupposes that's the only way you can be mentally incompetent. i would take a guy who is 90 and forgets a few things but he's seen a lot in his life and has the experience and, of course, if you're -- if you have alzheimer's and you're not there and don't remember who your wife is obviously that's a different story. but as opposed to somebody who is 40 and doesn't have a lot of experience and -- yeah, so -- >> what's funny, i think ageism is real. we see it in a lot of industries. >> oh. >> and see it on a sexist basis as well as i think you mentioned which is fair. i think what's funny is the one place that you see less ageism in our public life would be politics. when you look at pelosi,

mcconnell, the current president, the last president who is running for re-election so while i do think it's a problem and be less ageist we were talking about civil rights earlier, having said that for whatever reason incumbency, fame, other things, donor class. >> the voters are -- >> the voters keep going back to some of the choices that are in the upper age bracket. >> there is a movement in europe going on started by an older gentleman who had to deal with this bank, and the movement is called i'm old, not stupid. [ laughter ] i subscribe to that. >> what was he dealing with? >> with his bank because of the -- >> i see. >> the bank had changed some online and he said, but this can't be understood and then they treated him like an idiot. he said, no, i'm old, not stupid. >> well, there is a lot of making you try to feel like you're stupid when you're older. i mean, they purposely do th things, you know, why do i need

to -- what's that thing when you take a -- >> the qr code. >> thank you. [ laughter ] >> i find that for men it is the most annoying thing in the -- >> i need to do it to get nye car out of valet. >> how about when you have to fill something out, pick the photos with the pickup trucks and so it's like you have to prove to this robot that you're a human. [ laughter ] think about it. >> new census data shows california and new york saw a mass exodus -- mass, i don't know, yeah, well, 500,000 -- well, of people with their populations dropping by around 500,000 people. it doesn't say over -- is that in a year? maybe it is or last couple of years. can anything bring cost of living down in desirable places? >> texas.

florida. tennessee. no state income tax. >> right. >> nice weather and something else. something else about those states. >> is this a referendum on the way we govern here in california and new york? i mean obviously this looks like a blue state/red state thing. >> a lot is big oftens in big cities. i live in brooklyn. a lot of those big manhattan towers haven't filled back up with people but also that was an urban plan built a long time ago and maybe it is evolving. in all fairness it's fine. if people don't want to be in super expensive cities and go somewhere else especially if they don't have to commute to a skyscraper that often, fine. in new york like i don't -- from what we can see anecdotally i don't think all those buildings will fill back up. >> they're not and that's okay. you know, i think one of the good things that happened with the pandemic was when time stopped we got a chance to sort of like reassess and were saying to ourself, why do we need to go to work five days? and we don't. not from, you know, you probably

should work five days, but maybe you could get your work done in four days. they found when people work 80% of the time, if they get paid the same they do the same amount of work because most people in an eight-hour day work three hours. [ laughter ] so why not and, you know, save all that commuter time? i love -- we come to the office once a week now. well, obviously today to do the show. [ laughter ] but other -- yeah. you're welcome. it was a pleasure. but other than that, once a week and that's -- i feel that's perfect. we could do the rest of it at home. i don't need to see my lovely staff. i love them but like once a week is perfect. [ laughter ] >> here's the problem. >> and i mean that in the -- >> totally agree but we are losing something. i work from home. take this for what it's worth. our generation, we already got mentored and trained. lawyers and law firm partners aren't going out anymore and those associates aren't learning how to do a trial. god knows we don't learn to do it in law school. we don't know what will be lost

when we have an entire generation not telling them how to do it because we're at home in our pjs. >> i think both things are true. i think both are true. i remember the beginning of covid with the lockdowns people were like, what the hell, like i can't stay home, like i need to go out and then at the end, everybody was like, i can't go out to work. i need to stay home. [ applause ] i think you need a mix. >> well, you have to go out to the set to make a movie. so you're going to be out and we're going to go to the movies together, right? >> not at the same time. >> okay. thank you very much. we'll see you next week. [ cheers and applause ] >> and you can watch "real time with bill maher" friday nights on hbo at 10:00 p.m. and watch "overtime" right here on cnn friday nights at 11:30. and we'll be right back.

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[ laughter ] and performed at the super bowl halftime where i revealed that i'm pregnant. [ laughter ] >> i mean, they write themselves. they write themselves with george santos. >> i think if he decides to resign that the drag queen should come out and be the one that says good-bye. >> i don't think he's going to resign. he doesn't seem to have any appetite for not being in the public eye. but i do feel like i could see him on "dancing with the stars" or some reality show after. that's what he is after, the fame and the recognition. >> so this is a personal affront to me because he is my congressman. >> oh. >> oh. >> how is that going? >> a lot of -- >> not so well. >> in your district -- >> not even a district office but, yeah, it's -- >> you should be proud. he performed at the super bowl. that's amazing. >> and gave the state of the union. [ laughter ] >> all right. now let's listen to jordan

klepper who has talked to a nikki haley supporter who has decided to dump his support for donald trump. >> i voted for trump but i will not be doing that again. >> when did trump lose your support? the nail in the coffin it for me with donald trump, let me guess, charlottesville. >> no. >> okay -- >> you're not going to guess it. >> kids in cage. >> no. >> the insurrection january 6th. >> nope. >> oh, okay. wait, hold on, first impeachment. >> nope. >> second impeachment? >> no. >> invited white supremacists to mar-a-lago. >> no but, i mean, you know, criticizing desantis before his election. >> wouldn't have guessed it. so that's the line right there. >> that was at nail in the coffin for me. >> i would have guessed kids in cages. [ laughter ] >> that is so good. >> it's funny but it's so true. it's so true. i mean he kicked off his campaign saying horrible things

about hispanics and he just kept flying through all kinds of stuff and all of a sudden there's some weird line that comes up, people are going, i'm out. like how did you get there? >> they're like you can't call desantis desanctimonious, i'm out. >> that was crazy. >> that was -- i mean, we're laughing but it was funny for him to go through the laundry list of things he could have jumped off the trump train during but -- >> logic doesn't get people into their support of trump and logic is not going to get them out. it's sort of a humorous dramatization of the reality is that people went based on like a gut feeling in a lot of ways, and, you know, you can't talk somebody out of that so you can show them all of the impeachments in the world. you can talk about the policies and so forth, but it's like something rubbed them the wrong way, i guess, about some speech he gave about desantis? >> i could shoot someone on fifth avenue. >> not that one. >> hey. >> not that one. >> first impeachment, second

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