- [announcer] do you have an invention idea but don't know what to do next? call invent help today. they can help you get started with your idea. call now 800-710-0020. godspeed john fetterman. i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. you might remember that i was critical of pennsylvania's lieutenant governor during his campaign for the u.s. senate. i noted here and on my siriusxm radio program that he was not timely in notifying the public

about his stroke. nor about his cardiomyopathy and need for a pacemaker and he was refusing to debate his opponent in an effort to run out the clock by not agreeing to a debate until many pennsylvanians had already voted. i defended an nbc reporter who was criticized for reporting that fetterman had trouble understanding her small talk before the interview. i thought the coverage was being determined by empathy alone, not objectivity when the facts demanded both. now comes the news from the junior senator admitted himself to walter read on wednesday night for treatment of clinical depression. his office released a statement saying while john was experienced depression on and off throughout his life, it only became severe in rekren weeks, he's receiving treatment on a voluntary basis. we're told that john is getting the care he needs and will soon be back to himself.

this is fetterman's second hospital in as many weeks. he was recently admitted to george washington university hospital after feeling lightheaded at a retreat for democratic senators. thankfully tests ruled out a second stroke. it is his first public acknowledgment of a mental health issue. his wife tweeted, after what he's been through in the past year, there's probably no one who wanted to talk about his own health less than john. i'm so proud of him for asking for help and getting the care he needs. "the new york times" provided this useful insight that after his stroke, fetterman soon jumped back into campaigning in the tight senate race and now, quote, the possibility that he may have missed out on a crucial recovery period has become a source of pain and frustration for mr. fetterman and people close to him who fear that he may suffer long-term and potentially permanent repercussions. his schedule as a freshman senator has meant that he's continued to push himself in ways that people close to him worry are detrimental.

a senior aide told nbc news that fetterman is likely to have a few weeks of inpatient care and that doctors are trying different medications and dosages. and i say, more power to him. we need mental health role models right now, and here is hoping that he fills that bill. consider this. fetterman's hospital admission came the same week as the release of a cdc report documenting a mental health crisis among american adolescents, particularly our girls. they surveyed more than 17,000 teenagers across all 50 states and the district of colombia. in 2021 the percentage of high school students who experienced persistent feelings of sadness or hopelessness was 42%. that's up 28% from a decade earlier. when you break it down by gender, 57% female, 29% male. in 2011 the share of high school students who seriously considered attempting suicide was 16%.

in 2021, 22%. just stop and contemplate that. more than one in five american teens has seriously considered attempting suicide. and among girls, the number is 30%. the numbers of depression and suicidal thoughts are even higher in the lgbtq+ community, and these issues are not the sort that anyone relishes discussing. because the fact is, society doesn't treat brain and physical health the same. there remains a stigma attached to the former, which causes those afflicted too often to remain in the shadows. schools, workplaces, health care plans, and american society in general still don't treat those with mental illness the same as those with a physical affliction. think about it, god forbid someone in your orbit gets cancer. people rush to raise gofundme money, bake cakes and help take care of their children. but if the affliction is anxiety

or depression, many will shun even those they know, and that's if the illness is made public at all. insurance coverage is not often equitable, many mental health providers refuse the paperwork of participation, leaving people in need to scramble for scarce treatment resources. too many go untreated. maybe john fetterman can change that, perhaps he can become the face of a mental health epidemic from which we are all one degree of separation. 50 years ago senator thomas eagleton was dropped from the democratic ticket after it was revealed that eagleton had been hospitalized for depression, which included electroshock therapy. that would never have happened if eagleton had suffered a physical ailment. fetterman is so high profile in part due to the attention already given to his stroke and his flipping pennsylvania to give the d ems their slim majority, that perhaps he will finally elevate awareness in a watershed way and help our

culture rethink the way we treat brain health. a psychiatrist on staff at tufts university and harvard medical school wrote a book that stands out, "a first rate madness" and drawing on medical records of lincoln, churchill, among others, he makes the case that many leaders have battled mental illness. he says most crisis leaders are mentally ill or abnormal. the worst are normally those that are mentally healthy. >> people who have mild manic symptoms, mania being the idea is that you're sped up in your thinking, movement and feeling, people with mild manic symptoms are more creative and resilient to stress than normal mentally healthy people. so these four traits of cree yea activity, resilience, empathy and realism, which occur in

manic depressive illness and depression and bipolar illness are seen in some of our leaders, who had these conditions, these traits as part of their psychological makeup and also showed those traits as benefits of their leadership in times of cries, i should say, not always, but in times of crisis when you need them the most. >> but this isn't just about public figures or whether they can survive politically. hopefully this will help others who are suffering and need help, be it our family, our friends, or our neighbors. we can all benefit, so thank you, john fetterman. now to discuss the troubling new cdc study about american teens growing mental health issues, i'm joined by the director of the cdc's division of adolescent and school health. doctor, this report from the cdc, for which you played such a critical role, is really alarming. what data jumped off the page to you?

>> i think there's no question in this data that young people are telling us they are in crisis and we absolutely have to listen to what they're telling us. >> might it be a silver lining, of sorts, that they're telling us this, where perhaps they were reticent to do so before? the numbers haven't really spiked, but an openness to talk about the subject like i was offering in my opening commentary? >> i hope so. i hope that we're doing a better job in giving young people the language to describe their mental health and to describe what they're feeling. but let's remember that this is an anonymous survey that is conducted in young people's classrooms, and so i think part of the astonishment that we're hearing from adults at the level of mental health issues that young people are expressing may actually be an indication that they're feeling things and they're describing their mental health, but they're not doing that to adults. they're not describing those

things to their parents, to their schools, to counselors, to people who can help them. and that's really a concern. and i think it speaks to what you're saying. we not only have to give young people the language to describe their mental health, we have to listen to them. we have to create environments that support their mental health, but also provide them with ways to tell an adult when something is not going right. >> like i said in the introduction, this is a big sample. 17,000 high school students from all across the country. >> yes. >> 24% of high school girls say they've gone so far as to make a suicide plan. speak to that. >> it is just devastating to think that such a large proportion of the teenage girls in this country are getting to the point of planning not to be here anymore. i would imagine that any parents, any teachers or any school counselors, or just adults thinking about that, it

is frightening. and so i think what that spurs us to do is to create those environments that support their mental health and provide opportunities for them to let adults know that something is wrong. >> i would like to think that high school boys and girls, young men and young women are watching my program, but more likely it's their parents and it's their teachers and their family members. what do you want to say to them? >> so there are a variety of things that parents can do and things they can look for in their kids. they can look for any changes in behavior, changes in sleep patterns, changes in eating patterns. staying aware of what's happening with their young people. they can also know where their kids are, who they're with, who they're spending time with, what they're doing, and staying connected to the parents of their young people's friends. because that keeps them involved and engaged.

talk to your children about their mental health. starting at early ages so that you don't get to have teenagers who you haven't addressed those issues with. from a school perspective -- sorry. >> no, no, please finish. from a school perspective, tell me. >> from a school perspective, we need to train teachers to be able to help manage the mental and behavioral issues they are telling us they are seeing in their classrooms. so we need to give them the skills not to burden them, but to actually take away the burden that they're already experiencing. and then there's a whole host of things that schools can do to create environments that support young people's health, but in terms of programs that get them involved and invested, and making sure that they are safe for even the most vulnerable youth in a school. >> doctor ether, a quick final comment. i make the observation that it's hard not to look at the last decade and say, well, what's changed in society, the rise of social media, everybody walking around with a smartphone in

their pocket. that has to be an important cause driving these numbers. can you tell it to me in 30 seconds? >> sure. i think there's a combination of factors. certainly the isolation from the pandemic has not helped. there are positive and negatives to social media, and so we have to figure out how to keep the positives and protect young people from the negatives. and then i think we have to look at the conflict in our society. we would be naive to think that that is not affecting young people and their mental health. and so we have to learn to create environments that are more supportive and less conflicting. >> can i say that the report as you presented it is very approachable and i'll put it in my social media again. i did earlier in the week. but i recommend that parents, all concerned, access this report and read it for themselves. thank you, doctor, really appreciate your time and expertise. hit me up on social media. i'll read some responses throughout the course of the program. i think this comes from the world of youtube. with so many young people facing this, i think it is inevitable

this probably will be embraced and addressed when they are the ones in power. hopefully that will happen sooner. eric swenson, this is such a ripe opportunity for a political leader to own the crisis of mental health among young adults. i had a private word that i'll now make public with chris christie. we were at the army/navy game and i bumped into him. i said you really had a moment in 2016 when you talked about addiction in new hampshire. today it's mental health and our kids, and i hope that he or someone else is going to take the bull by the horns on this issue. ahead, after crashes and other mishaps, more than 360,000 of elon musk's teslas, including mine, are being recalled to fix the self-driving software. do any federal agencies test such features before the cars are shipped? you might be surprised by the answer. and sworn testimony, emails, texts show that fox news

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this week, sworn testimony, internal emails and text messages excerpted in a new court filing lay bare the hypocrisy of fox news talent and its executives. as seen in the $1.6 billion defamation suit against fox by dominion voting systems, they knew the 2020 election conspiracy theories airing on their network were bogus. but despite notification and warning from dominion, the manufacturer of voting machines being blamed in some of those conspiracies, they kept giving the stories oxygen. really crazy stuff, wrote the man at the top, rupert murdoch.

sean hannity said rudy giuliani was acting like an insane person, who which laura ingraham concurred, such an idiot. brett bear correctly noted there is no evidence of fraud. lou dobbs was a worst offender, giving air to trump lawyer sidney powell, who even tucker carlson deemed a liar. the motion for summary judgment filed by dominion is full of evidence of everything i have said here and on radio for years, namely that certain meade wra are operating as the equivalent of pro wrestling, only fox hid from their viewers they knew it was fake. when neil cavuto cut away from a white house briefing when kayleigh mcenany made allegations of fraud, cavuto said i can't continue to show

you this. the fox motive was not ideology, it was not an allegiance to donald trump. it was greed, pure and simple. they created an audience they could no longer control, an audience that believed the garbage they were putting on the air, and they feared that they might lose that base to a competitor like news max. in an email to fox news ceo suzanne scott, murdock wrote that news max needed to be watched and didn't want to antagonize trump further and stressing everything at stake here. what might he have meant by everything? the big three cable news networks earned an estimated $5.7 billion in advertising revenue and license fees, up 3% from the previous year. when fox reporter jackie heinrich fact checked a trump

sweet pointing out a lack of evidence of voter fraud, tucker carlson texted please get her fired, seriously, what the f. i'm shocked, it needs to stop immediately, like tonight. it's measurably hurting the company. the stock price is down, not a joke. by the way, last week that same tucker carlson had the highest rated show on cable news with 3.5 million viewers. a fox spokesperson has claimed that dominion mischaracterized the record in its court filing and cherry-picked the quotes that were stripped of any key context. regardless of the ultimate outcome of the defamation action, the evidence is a stunning indictment of the fox brand. but here is a question. will their audience ever know this? it's a real issue where so many live in media silos and don't listen or watch all sides. these revelations were huge news everywhere yesterday. just look at all the headlines. except on fox.

because they're not covering it. remember to vote. this week's poll question at smerconish.com right now, i'm asking the following. will fox news lose credibility with its viewers if those viewers learn that the network's hosts and executives knew the 2020 conspiracy theories were bs? joining me now to discuss is brian rosenwald, a scholar at the university of pennsylvania, the author of talk radio's "america: how an industry took over a political party that took over the united states". welcome back. thanks for being here. is fox news an outlier or is this the norm in a polarized p media world? >> this is not an outlier. this is the norm for conservative media. this is a business and they care about the bottom line and the one thing that they are worried about is losing their audience. alienating their viewers. so here was a case where they

really were concerned that if they told the truth, their audience was going to go find someone who told them what they wanted to hear. >> brian, this is not the 1990s. they don't have the -- russia is no longer here, i think this was just the two-year anniversary of his passing, fox doesn't have the stranglehold on conservatives they did at one time. there's a lot of competition in the mark there's place. >> the key point, in the 1990s, somebody who listened to rush or watched fox in its early years probably was also watching the "nightly news" or cnn and consuming media like yourself. so they were not living in this hermitically sealed world. flash forward to now and they have dozens of options in conservative media. and so what happens is every host is worried about getting outflanked and every host is worried about hearing that, you know, what happened to you, you sold out, i can't trust you

anymore. why? because even if they don't throw out the craziest theories themselves, they know their audience is getting this stuff from somewhere. it could just be a video someone posted on facebook, or it could be from news max or any show you can think of. so the end result here is that they're all worried about getting outflanked and all worried about not being far enough to the right or not being far enough to hating democrats. this explains why conservative media came around on donald trump. in 2016 there were plenty of hosts who ripped him as unfit or were never-trumpers and gradually they call came around. and the reason they did was because they realized they were going to lose their audience if they didn't. the few hosts who didn't, they stopped being on conservative media because their audience evaporated. >> i know that there are some watching, and i'll hear from them in the twitterverse, who

say why aren't you talking about your own network and msnbc, and i will be the first to acknowledge that polarization exists at both ends of the idealogical spectrum. in this particular case, democracy was at stake. i mean, they were giving oxygen, they were giving oxygen to conspiracy theories that led to an attempted coup, and they knew it was bullshit. that's the difference. >> i think you're 100% right. this is something that is toxic for democracy, that you have this medium that has a huge political impact and these guys are willing to do or say anything to make money. that's the bottom line. there is no line they will not cross if they think it's good for the bottom line. and the problem is, they have an enormous political impact worrying about the well-being of the country. they worry about making money and yet they have a huge

influence on the type of person who votes in a republican primary, when 10% of people show up. which means that all of the republican politicians are afraid of these guys, afraid of crossing them. as they go further and further to the right, they see democrats as evil and play out the open opera. they know it's a business. they know, as you said, it's pro wrestling, but the politicians have to take them seriously. and that affects whether they're trying to address problems, from the mental health type crisis that you're talking about in your first segment, to anything else under the sun. politicians tonight want to do anything that they think is going to anger these hosts. >> brian, answer my poll question. what i'm essentially wondering is whether this would matter to the fox viewer if the fox viewer even knew it was the case. because in half the country this has been the page one dominant story in the last two days in a very busy news week, but it

doesn't get any airing at all in conservative media. would that base care? give me the quick answer. >> absolutely not. they'll just say it's media bias. they'll say you and i are bias, we're distorting things, twisting things because we hate fox. >> yeah, but i've got the document here. i mean, even if dominion loses the defamation action, it is an actual malice case so there's a high standard. but, you know, the sworn deposition testimony is what it is. the texts are what they are. the emails are what they are. there's no getting around the fact that this is what happened. it's just a little frustrating that half the country probably doesn't even know that's the case. anyway, thank you for being here, as always. i always like to point out that dr. rosenwald earned a ph.d. studying talk radio. he's the expert. what came in from the world of social media on this subject? what do we got? no, people no longer watch news

to be informed, they watch for personal -- yeah, it is true, it's like pavlovian. i want to appear smart. give me something to reinforce the views i already have. get that clicker out, not at this moment, and change the channel. a mixed media diet is the way to remove us from a partisan ditch. i watch fox and i watch msn, and of course i watch cnn. i want to see it all. it's the only way to be inform. before i get fired, let me quickly remind you go to my website at smerconish.com. will fox news lose credibility with its own viewers? if those viewers learn that the network's hosts and executives knew the 2020 conspiracy theories were bogus? up ahead, this week, tesla had to recall 360,000 cars because of dangers caused by the self-driving software. i'll talk to the former navy pilot who warned the highway

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my car has just been recalled. it's one of more than 362,000 teslas equipped with full serve driving. in response, ceo elon musk tweeted, he said, the word recall for an over-the-air software update is act row niftic and just last wrong. the technology in my car that allows people to steer,

accelerate and brake and change lanes on its own. last fall my next guest sent a document to colleagues at the national safety highway administration, noting that when people use the technology and die in a car crash, they are more likely to have been speeding than people driving on their own. joining me is missy cummings, one of the first female u.s. navy fighter pilots, a professor at george mason university. she spent more than a year as adviser to ntsa. how much government oversight was involved in allowing my car to even get on the roadway? >> none, really. >> what do you mean? >> yeah, so we have a rule book called the federal motor vehicle safety standards and your car, when it's built, if it meets all the rules in that rule book, the

auto manufacturers do not have to ask permission to put a car on the road. so no evaluation was ever done by anyone other than tesla or any other manufacturer. >> i think that's pretty stunning. i, for one, did not know until reading in on all the tesla and corresponding issues. it's a system of self-certification that we have in this country. is that the way it is globally? >> no, indeed, we use self-certification here, but we have in the world pre-approval processes, most notably in europe. so in europe you can't get full self-driving in many countries because they have said, no, that's not pre-approved because it's not safe enough. >> what do you think accounts for your finding in those crashes that you looked at where there was a likelihood that people were using the self-driving and speeding more so than you would see in people who were operating their own vehicle in a traditional sense?

>> first i would like to point out this is under the standing general order data and it's accessible to everyone in the public. you can go to the website right now and download the dataset and see for yourself. i think what accounts for it is people are getting injured and/or killed more in these vehicles because they are speeding. we see the trend was very clear in the data. people are setting the speed limit to 9 miles over the speed limit. i do it myself, so i know that thinking. but the difference between people in an adas-equipped car is i'm still paying attention even though i've set the cruise control to 9 miles over the limit. vehicles in adas are relaxing and told they can go hands-free, even if just for 30 seconds and they'll do something in the car and put their feet somewhere else in the car and something

goes wrong, and you're speeding, goes too fast for the conditions, people to over-control the steering wheel and we see lots of crashes as a result. >> it's not just a tesla thing, right? tesla takes all of the oxygen out of the room because of the personality at the top. but we're talking about a much more widespread issue. >> absolutely. and this is what i find most concerning is, we're advocating for people to go hands-free when car manufacturers are advertising for you, yes, you should buy our car because you can go hands-free. the problem with that is, can you go hands-free for a couple of seconds to pick up your coffee? yes, we know it because we've been there. but when you encourage people to go hands-free, people will take extended periods of time and hands-free equals mind-free. and people will start paying attention to something else and looking down at their phone, playing with the radio, playing with the system, because they feel comfortable. so really kind of what we're

seeing is adas-equipped cars are causing people to be far more overtrusting of the technology than is probably safe. >> dr. cummings, thank you so much for your expertise. i really appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. checking in on more social media reaction. what do we have? from the world of youtube. aton nis driving is coming, it's just a matter of time. by the way, george jetsen was born in 2020. i love my car. i want tesla to succeed and thrive. the reason i asked dr. cummings the first question that i did, and i should know better as a trial lawyer, i'm surprised that a vehicle gets on the roadway without government inspection and oversight. it's self-certification and we leave it to manufacturers. i think the world will be a safer place when we're all using this technology. but the issue of human factors is what we're talking about. and that is still a part of the

dynamic. still to come, the latest from the trial of lawyer alex murdaugh. he's on trial for the murder of his wife and son. the prosecution has now rested, after a somewhat controversial effort of being able to discuss murdaugh's financial crimes. i will talk to valerie, who has been in the courtroom every day. remember to answer this week's poll question as smerconish.com. will fox news lose credibility with its own viewers if they learn the network's hosts and executives knew 2020 conspiracy theories were bs? this house says use the realtor.com app to see three different estimates. also, don't take advice from people who don't know what they're talking about. realtor.com to each their home.

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desperation move to generate sympathy because his extensive financial fraud was about to be exposed. witnesses this week included maggie's sister and the prosecution's final witness was the most damaging. he coordinated suv and phone data to track murdaugh's movements on the night of the murder. and now it's the defense's turn before the case gets turned over to the jury. two of the jurors were disqualified on monday after testing positive for covid, narrowing the poll of alternates to three. joining me is a reporter from the washington street journal who has long been covering this case. thank you so much for coming back. often, unless a defendant takes the stand, jurors never get to hear his or her version. valerie, in this case, they have heard a hell of a lot from alex. >> they have. we've heard recorded interviews,

in his own voice, explaining what happened the night of the murders and then what happened later on and the bizarre roadside shooting. they've heard hours of testimony from alex himself effectively. >> do you agree with me that witness 61 with the triangulation with the phone records and the on-star data from general motors was probably the most compelling of the prosecution? maybe that's why they saved it for last? >> i thought -- i tend to agree with you, it was very effective testimony. just to walk us through minute-by-minute, second-by-second, every moment of his whereabouts that night and maggie's and paul's. it was revealing, because we know that our phone knows everything, our every move. that was what was so compelling. >> he's definitely a liar. doesn't make him a murderer. i still am questioning whether all of the evidence of the financial crimes should have

come in. >> there's a significant question about that and the defense has said if he's convicted, they will appeal on what we've effectively had trials within trials. all this financial evidence about the long-running fraud he's accused of, the insurance fraud he's accused of. we've essentially had three trials within one trial and it has been dizzying at times, but the lead prosecutor said this week, judge, they've got to know this is a case of unprecedented complexity. they've got to understand that. they've got to see how complex it is. >> here is the thing. if he didn't do it, someone else had a very narrow window to get on that property, take possession of those two different family guns, kill both the wife and son, and then get off the property without leaving a trace. >> that's true. someone would have had a very narrow window to accomplish all of that.

but it cuts both ways. if alex did do it, to kill two people, clean up all the evidence and leave, that's 15 minutes or so. that's what the prosecution is alleging. either way it's not clear how all this was done in such a short amount of time, whoever the guilty party is. >> final thought, prosecution not obligated to prove motive, but of course the jurors and public, we want to know, like, why, how? why would he have done this? i don't see the consistency in the motive issue. i think they put on a very compelling case, but does it necessarily follow that you kill your wife and your young son because the financial walls are closing in? >> and that's what the -- the defense has made that argument and said, look, we concede and the jury has heard from his own mouth in one of these interviews, he acknowledges a lot of financial wrongdoing. the defense says, yes, set that

aside, why does it follow that because he was getting ready to potentially -- potentially was getting ready to be revealed as a fraud, but why would he kill his wife and son who he loved, and demonstrably so? >> we'll see what happens this week with the defense presentation. thank you so much. i appreciate it. >> thank you. watch the three-part docuseries "low country" that starts tomorrow at 8:00 p.m. eastern time on cnn, where randi kaye has turned in some great reporting on the trial. still to come, the final result of this week's poll yen. go to smerconish.com and consider subscribing. will fox news lose credibility with its own viewers if those viewers find out, hey, the network hosts and executives, they knew all that 2020 stuff was bs?

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