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this was unprecedented in that he went into an active war zone not a u.s. controlled military zone. he just went into a war zone. >> never happened before. today we're talk about franklin d. roosevelt diplomacy with churchill during world war ii. we never had a president carrot to this. i know eisenhower would go to korea. and it recent years obama going to afghanistan. and was visiting the troops. this was a clandestine in the middle of the wee hours and eight hour secret train trip to go to kyiv and beat zelenskyy there. what it mainly is, as of tonight is deeply symbolic of how much political capital the biden ministration is putting on uniting the country on ukraine. mitch mcconnell's back in, he's got 60 some percent of the american people. but there is a conservative
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world of people wondering whether it is financially sustainable. to support ukraine over the coming years. >> that's why the complaints about it. but >> there you are. ready to tackle this. so this is from congresswoman, marjorie taylor greene. thanks insulting. some other presidents day the president to astros ukraine over america. of course the american people to pay for ukraine's government at war. i can't express how much the american people hate joe biden. >> this next from congressman scott perry. birth taken that they have to say the border is secure. they can't do the same for america. so takes two years for joe biden to visit the worse only created at our southern border that eagles seen other war zone he created. so i don't think they're the majority. but how loud of a following and voice do you think they have? >> it is a loud voice. i think part of the issues that people aren't upset about the
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border. i live in a border state. i think a lot of that spills over. you write about the significance of what happened here. if we're gonna support ukraine we should be in for a penny, in for a pound. that is my opinion. i understand people's frustration with some things. i just don't think we should be mixing them together. it is not an either or. i understand the frustration of people saying you over there, we have issues over here. i don't necessarily agree that we should have. this visit was so important i think we should look at it for what it is. in fact, there are other republicans who say the same thing. here is mitch mcconnell today he says my party's leaders are overwhelmingly support a strong involved america. a robust transatlantic alliance. look at people in power. look at me and speak recover mccarthy. those could be a pickle for kevin mccarthy because everything is a pickle for kevin mccarthy. >> he doesn't really have the vote. right? i think this is a good or -- a strong nato is good for
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peace. it is historically always been good for peace. it has worked so far. ukraine has continued to fight back. i think that's a really good thing. i think ultimately. kevin mccarthy has a caucus he can't control. and so sooner or later that is going to come after him. it's just a question of when. >> that's for friday. i should mention not stay for mitchell. connell won desantis today. the talk about what his, i guess, concern is about ukraine. so areas this morning. >> i don't think it is in our interest to be getting into proxy war with china. kerrigan vault over things like the borderlands or over crimea. so, i think it would be hooven to identify what is a strategic objective that they are trying to achieve. but just think it's an open-ended blank check is not acceptable. >> so we may be getting ahead of himself with a proxy war in
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china. >> i think what's interesting is this is maybe the one rare moment around desantis is getting at something that can kind of agree with. that is the american people understanding of when this is going to end. there is overwhelming support for ukraine and this understanding that whatever is happening in ukraine is something that is part of our obligation to democracy. at the same time, i think, when i look at my readers and they comments that there is a communication issue. the biden administration has not communicated why and y money going over there can't be spent hair at home for things that affect us every day? we >> that's with my cousin but his colors in terms of the border. and terms of the money being spent. >> also, when the president says we're running. we may be running about what we may need to defend ourselves. the fear that china may invade
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taiwan we may not have enough positions. if we're not explain to the american people it gives doubt. even if they support what we're doing to ukraine. they want some answers and some reassurance. >> will that look like doug? >> fdr gave us the core freedoms. that's we're fighting for in the world. there's nothing more primary than the nato alliance. after world war ii there's a greek revolution. harry truman came in. he did the trump doctrine. we save grease from russian interference, communist government, greece is nato, turkey's nato, every president except donald trump has but the nato alliance first. so joe biden isn't just president of the united states. he's also the leader of nato. 30 countries. and if you lose ukraine, and if we just turn our back on that democratic movement there. what does it say? it is, again, that we are effective in 1991. the soviet union broke up. because united states contain soviet expansionism.
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democrats and republicans, reagan and carter, we can name them all. so we must now stand for zelenskyy and ukraine. and i think most americans agree with that. but biden does have to sell that. i think this mission was an advancement of that cause and he has skin in the game by going over there with sirens. writing off a supposed radar moreau and london. >> tomorrow, you will have that opportunity. he's giving a speech in poland. i don't know if the people who followed marjorie taylor greene's in the world would be listening to a speech in poland. but you have that opportunity. >> i just look at people my side the aisle. it just a versus any other political party. there are extremes. but i think a strong american -- the strong americans where the stronger we are nato's. if we are telling the world and we are running low on ammunition, you might need to defend ourselves, that is a concern. so we've got to defeat that concern. if we want to support ukraine
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at the quick should but then why aren't we giving jets? why are we doing things and drips and drabs? explain a little that book giving away the strategy. but the american people need to know that. there were people be never satisfied. but the people will be, that will go a long way. >> i would break marjorie taylor greene summertime. because i don't lead out. but she is calling for divorce. we impeach biden, or give us a national divorce. we don't pay taxes to flaunt foreign countries words were not even nato allies. we are sending our sons and daughters to dive for foreign borders, and foreign democracies and, quotation. she says america's broke. criminal cartels rain -- >> first of all, america's not broke. and a lot of the states have huge surpluses. who are also very careful to ukraine. that no and soldiers are fighting there. all that is hyperbolic.
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this generation doesn't promote endless war. i think it's a pushback. by the knee so dress that. if ukraine falls, russia will be out of control. and they will take whatever else they can. i think that most natural community knows that. but this generation, my generation, generation after us. we don't like war. and a lot of us grew up during the gulf war which really seen it a huge waste of life and money, i detailed a lot of really innocent iraqi's. so i think a lot of us feel the worse really bad. so the acid take why this makes sense. >> but nobody likes on this war but how can you ever tell someone when the war's going to. and >> their worship necessity. world war ii, japan declared war. unless germany declared war on us. so we're all in it together. is ukraine a war of choice and what does it mean. i think we have proxy wars during the cold war.
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some people argue korea was. vietnam was. maybe create came out okay, phenomenon so okay. so biden's got to make the american public understands that this is a war of necessity. that we don't defend russia in europe and its time of need. and ukraine now as part of the west. unfortunately it's not a nato. bill clinton and our coach did a great service in my view by nato enlargement when he was president. when the soviet union collapsed. but we cannot leave the ukraine dither it bleed and die. but we are just doing smoke airing here like the georgian congress woman on american first. we have to defend the ukraine. i think, at all costs. if not, we'll see what they're the consequences are. but china is a concern. and how are they going to do? when that ends. it's a day jurist game going on and you are right now.
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>> so we'll see what the president has said tomorrow. meanwhile, back here, imagine if the talks were trained relevant lefty wondering whether your town, and your family have been poisoned. the people in east palestine are outrage and they are afraid and they don't know what's going to happen. they don't know if they can trust anyone in the government. we will talk about all that. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ get it with gurus. cargurus. ♪ this feels so right... ♪ adt systems now feature google products like the nest cam
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the people of east palestine ohio are scared. they are afraid to return to their homes. even though officials say it is safe to go back. it has been more than two weeks that train carrying hazardous chemicals derailed. now, the health clinic is opening. they are to address residents by the concerns is not enough. back with me now mike remit, molly, natasha alford, and harry whitman. we've had so many people on our air talk about how their kids are throwing up. their kids have rashes they, themselves taste battery in their mouth all day long. here is another resident from east palestine today. >> i did go little clue close to an area pregnant thursday. i was down there with the news crew. we're taking pictures with cleanup to somebody who work. we actually did get nauseous it firsthand experience here i was sick.
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i had a headache for about eight hours. i got sick after that. so it is definitely a little more or we are trying to exercise more caution and not go near the area again right now. >> officials tell them it is safe to go home, natasha. >> that is everywhere. if you look at the response to actual officials tweets. the national transportation board, director, people are saying this is not our reality. we don't trust you. this is happening at a time when trust in government institutions is actually waiting for people who are going to question just how sincere the official statements are and whether there is looking out for the profits. again, this is happening at the context of deregulation. we know that although obama era law that trump rode back prevented this particular disaster. there's still this idea that the american people are not being protected and it's really bad
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although if they did have, breaks breaks in the every single train car after with the train car with 126 cars, it could've sealed down. >> yes, yes. >> i mean that's one of the things that they rolled back and -- they are seeing more derailments now. >> all right. >> suddenly, something is deeply wrong there and we do not know what it is. i don't think the government's purpose is to sleeping them. it might have to do with the water checking, up something terrible in the air. animals are dying. it is obvious, there have been six class action suit filed, by the way. it's going to be enormous. but i don't blame the people, i mean it's the words of the government versus their actual feelings. something is really, really wrong. it's still a mystery but i wouldn't go back there. >> yes, and by the way, i mean that is where your home is. you have to go back to your home at some point. your friends will only take you and your kitten for some point. i don't know what the people who are supposed to do. >> i agree with you.
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but let's throw a monkey wrench in. here but the question about the vaccine, the efficacy, and the doubt in the cdc, and the doubt with dr. fauci, this is just the same thing. again, you're hearing from the government and they're telling you one thing and finding out later that maybe that's not true. and then, in this case, to your children are getting sick right now. and i don't think they believe what they're being told. that doesn't mean they can't be convinced. but they are obviously skeptical. and they need answers. i don't blame them. >> but i would push back about the fact about the vaccines, i would say -- well, you don't see people -- i think a closer parallel was 9/11. i lived there in totally fine, e have been many many lawsuits of people dying of nestle filial, not all sorts of cancers. i think that's a closer parallel because we haven't seen the same kind of thing. but i do know that people do not trust the government right now. >> yes, and obviously, i take all of your points because you can have the government say that we are testing the air in
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the water seems completely safe. and then you are safe. you have a sore throat. and your kids are tearing up. here is what senator chair brown said today about people feeling skeptical. >> they are right to be skeptical, the epa administrator, when i was there, both the state and the federal epa administrators set that. but when you return to your home, we think the water say, but when you return to your home it should be tested again for your water, your soil or your air. not to mention those that have their own wells. >> okay. everybody -- how are we supposed to do that? >> how are we supposed to go back if you're not certain it was safe? that's the other question. what do you take your kids back and drink the water if you stop to test the water gun? >> what concerns me about this is that someone is going to exploit the situation. and it's donald trump. he has a trip planned. and you know exactly when he gets there he's going to go off the cups. he's not gonna follow anything on any q carts and use this as a moment.
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i think last the biden administration. >> i think donald trump runs on the registration. every day we take another useless deregulation. well, if we had a super regulated transit system, which we should have, and remember, this company has had a lot of lobbyists. there was a lot of reporting today about the millions of dollars that they spent on obvious. so if we had -- to >> yes, so, it is all true and it is one thing to say what the government might be doing, obviously the railroad is not to be trusted but just something has to give here. i think the flip side of trump, someone's gonna die or somebody is going to get really sick. and then the whole situation, i think will change. they will really be, deep distrust and people will try to leave. >> well, we're on it every day with updates because this is not going away. >> meanwhile, this story, an alabama man allegedly freezes
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how did a 33-year-old alabama and up allegedly frozen to death inside of a county jail last night? the family of anthony mitchell, accuses the walker county sheriff's office of allegedly committing one of the most appalling cases of jail abuse the country has ever seen. in a lawsuit, the family said that mitchell died, quote, likely by being placed in a restrained chair in the jails kitchen, walk-in freezer or similar frigid environment and left there for hours. unquote. a nationally, police said that anthony mitchell was taken to a hospital for further evaluation and that he was, quote, alert and conscious when he left the jail. but then whistleblower video tells a different story. we warn you, this video we are about to play is graphic and disturbing. you could see two correction officers here carrying
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mitchell's limp, possibly lifeless body as it comes out of the door, here. not to their police car, the walker county sheriff officer is now under investigation as a result of this. in a statement to w. i-80, a lawyer for the sheriff's office says, quote, as his routine the walker county sheriff's office immediately contacted the state bureau of investigation to investigate a independently determine the facts surrounding mr. mitchell's death. this investigation is in its early stages and expected to continue for sometime. the tariff office is fully cooperating with the investigation in order to present a fact driven response. the sheriff's office will await the conclusion of the investigation. karen kelley, the whistleblower, and former corrections officer who released that clip filing her own lawsuit. she elected that she was fired for sharing the video of the incident. joining me now is anthony
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mitchell assistant, miranda mitchell, along with the attorney for the mitchell family john goldberg and -- thank you very much for being here. we are sorry that you're going through all of this miranda. miranda can you just tell us what did the sheriff's office and the jail originally tell you about what happened to your brother? >> they, honestly didn't give a lot of information to our family. one of the officers, i believe t.j. armstrong called my cousin. not even my mother. and told her to go to the hospital. because his organs were shutting down and so, when my mother arrived there, she was told he looked a little off this morning. and we thought that he needed some fluids. and by the time she arrived he was pretty much gone. >> miranda i am sorry i'm sorry how hard this is for you and
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the hold family. how do you seen that video before that we just played? >> i had and it does not get easier each time that i've seen it. even though i have watched it several times trying to reason as to why someone would do that. it doesn't make any sense. it just does not make any sense why any human being would be treated that way. >> how did you find out that that video existed after they told you some story about he seemed to be in distress and his organ seem to be shutting down. how did you find out that this video of the truth of the video existed? >> i was probably just sitting at home about a week after my brother had passed. and i received a facebook message from someone. i won't share her name for her privacy. and she said that we think you need to see this and she sent me the video. and i never would've guessed
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what it would be when i opened it. and then i saw, what we believe my brother's lifeless body being carried, just like a piece of trash set on the concrete ground with so little care and then thrown into the back of a police cruiser. and -- it was nothing like he had told us. he was not alert, nor conscious. >> yeah. you wouldn't know what the truth was of how he left the county jail, nor would any of us had that video, had the whistleblower not released that video. >> mr. -- the doctor who examined tony said that he died of hypothermia. his body was apparently 72 degrees at the hospital. how did the shares office
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explain that? >> they haven't commented on it. there is only one way that this body would reach like that. it's either being placed in a freezer or in a cooler. there are other locations that have coolers there. we also know he was left on the cement floor for five hours. the wet cold cement floor naked. so i don't think his body could've got in there by just being naked on the floor. so that is why we speculate that it was the freezer. and we heard many other people tell us that they have also been placed in a cooler or a freezer that they. apparently it's some type of torture device, i believe. >> mr. smith, what about that?
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i don't even want to call them inmates because they are not yet adjudicated. they are not yet convicted. why would they be placed in a freezer? >> there is no reasonable explanation for that. the only thing that we can say is hearsay. and we have unfortunately not direct evidence of him being put in the future. what we do have is videos from five hours to for am to nine of him lying on the floor, dying and his chances of living slipping away. and that's what's really shocking. so many situations recently were your watching so many health him during. this >> miranda, all of this started because of a mental health wellness check from police. as i understand, one of your
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relatives was worried about your brother and called the police for help and this is what ended up happening. what was going on with your brother before this? >> so, my brother has struggled with addiction in the pass and it really took a turn after my father passed away in august. my dad was my brother's best friend. and his biggest supporter. he was always there for him. he lost him. and that was really hard for my brother. and so, his addiction really took hold of him. and he spiraled and we tried to help so much as we could. offering him rehab. giving him whatever resources we could. and everyone who's ever loved an addict knows how hard and complicated that is. because you can only do so much. they have to accept the help. and then it got to this point where my cousin steve said that
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he was just completely in a stage of psychosis and wasn't speaking clearly. he didn't seem tethered to reality. and that's when he made the call to try to get him help. a nationally, he called the investigator's office directly. in hopes to avoid a 911 call and then he was left to not answer and it was the only thing that seemed like a chance to get him help before he might hurt himself or others. who else do you call in an emergency? >> of course, i mean of course, that's what we all would do and nobody would expect their loved one who's struggling with addiction to end up, somehow, with a body temperature of 72 degrees and dying at the county jail as a result of all of that. well, maranda, gentlemen, thank you so much for sharing the story we know that you will get to the bottom of this. we will continue to follow. it and, please, keep us posted on what happens next with this story. >> thank you. >> take care maranda.
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once upon a time, there was a
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beloved bear named winnie the pooh. children loved him so much they introduced him to their own children. but then, deep in the woods, something went very, very wrong. and a bloody slasher film was born. brace yourself, here is a clip. >> christopher, we need to leave, now! >> i really need to find out what's happening, okay? ♪ ♪ ♪ >> you have. that's the new movie. we need the, blood and honey. i'm choking on. it joining me now, writer executive producer, director,
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an executive producer, scott jeffrey. which one of you is the deranged sick mind that thought this was going to be a great idea? >> it's both of us. >> you both liked the idea, ra'eese, of turning when need the boot into an homicidal maniac? >> yes, when we saw the rights which came out in approximately january 2022, we got really excited. we had a glimmer in our eyes. and we had to given a [inaudible] >> i mean it's so scary. it's so gross. and so -- i mean, just explain to me your thought process for a minute here. i'll start with theories. this is a beloved children's book and so who are you hoping the audience is? >> yes this definitely isn't for kids it is for adults so anyone who grew up on we need the pool when they were younger, and fast forward now 20 years,
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now you have this version. >> yes. >> and scott, piglet? you couldn't leave piglet alone? >> i mean he's up for grabs as well, and he's been so lovely and kind for so long, why not see him a bit arranged as well. >> why not ticker? >> he's not in the public dominion. full >> but you have to gear up your sleeve, are you going to do something very bad to take arson? >> reese, what do you reckon? >> yes i think it's coming he's not in the public domain yet but he will be and are already planning to have ideas on what to do with him. >> guys it's so creepy and it's so awful. part of it is hilarious because it is the juxtaposition of we need the push and the slasher film. but part of it is so disturbing. i mean did it give you, rhys frake-waterfield, any pause, no pun intended, that you are going to ruin we need the proof
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or the next generation? >> no. we [laughter] that. how about you scott? >> i think that there's been that version of winning for so long and now this is a different version of winnie, people just love horror movies and if you don't like it you don't need to watch, it there's no gun to anyone's, head it doesn't need to exist you if you don't like or. but if you do like or it very much exists. you are getting his head but you are doing many things. here's one more clip that i will play for the viewers we ♪ ♪ ♪ >> why are you doing this, we used to be friends? why are you doing this? please! >> piglet i'm so sorry i didn't know any of this would happen, i thought you'd be okay without me. why are you doing this, we used to be friends? why?
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stop! >> scott, it is so creepy and so just tell us the process of making it. i mean were you laughing, where people freaked out? what was it like coming up with the costumes, all of that? >> when you are on set, rhys frake-waterfield is just sat behind the monitor, giggling the entire time. and, rhys frake-waterfield you had some crazy ideas with this, situations in the polls, for example? >> yes, we basically, when we realized it went into the public domain into february 2022, we had a partly work for items studio. and we both just got really excited and eager. we started brainstorming. and we wanted to make it a bit like michael myers, make it massive, piglet has a sledgehammer. and then they go on a huge rampage. >> and so, guys, what else do you have obviously? what else is coming into the public domain that you are going to completely run for children, next? >> scott's next. >> yes, i'm directing bambi the
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reckoning. and that is shooting at the end of may. and bambi is going to be a killing machine. so, yes, you can expect that to come. and then very shortly after, it's called need the puck to. and it's got five times the budget, more friends might be saying hello. and then we have peter pan's neverland nightmare. but we are just doing things related to disney. we have other things to that aren't out yet. >> well, you guys are sick and twisted. and we thank you for showing all of that with. us really appreciate it. rhys frake-waterfield and scott jeffrey, thank you very much. let's bring in the panel. now again, natasha as our resident great school teacher. well [laughter] how disturbing is this? >> i'm disturbed. i'm disgusted. i think we like seeing characters behaving badly, like there is something about that in the culture that would be entertaining. i would've liked a comedy. give me winnie the pooh at mardi gras. you know, taking shots or something. i'm not sure that i like the slush are part.
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my toddler will not be getting the we need the boost of the animal if this is going to be the new face of we need the. i think i'm just going to cancel when it approve. >> isn't that a bummer? we need the poop will be run for future generations. >> well, if they watch this slasher film, which i urge them not to, i, mean we need the putin is sort of -- an anybody who has children knows what it is, but i am more disturbed, not about the film, but about the copyright 95 years. i, mean it suddenly allows somebody to hijack bambi, hijack tartan. >> but, it's just designed that way? >> yes, so people are waiting like vultures for when grade classics are suddenly public domain and they grab it. they do with the music to. but, you know, there's nothing to do. there is no legal recourse. and, as they said, just don't watch it. but i find it a waste of time but that is just the way i'm
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wired. >> it is pretty arbitrary that 95 years shouldn't be when you stop having rights over your own work. especially in -- for artist who already have trouble keeping and making money on their contact. it's pretty depressive. >> first, you are saying it's kind of awesome. >> well, i was thinking that that didn't count. >> well, i was saying as someone who manages other literary state management, you do spend a lot of time trying to see if you can get any cash out of the content. but, in this case, it is actually hurting the books. >> right, because it expires. >> right. instead of just becoming too families to say can we use this and buy it for you. we understand that. >> right, right. and you cannot imagine the family is thrilled that they're making a slasher movie with this childhood. >> the most disturbing thing to me is that he said people who grew up with this 20 years ago. that was 50 years ago.
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that disturbed me more than anything else about this. that was 50 years ago for me. you could see the generational difference. but, again, i think culture reflects society. and there's gonna be some people that loved it. but, more to what you're saying about the, work that is more concern for people. and when your pork like that, it's such a classic of how they can change it. and maybe these kids will never see the original work. >> all right, thank you everyone. please stick with me. presidents, next. as you've never seen them before. artificial intelligence technology is going to turn off 46 american presidents into cartoon characters. we'll show you.
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presidents. all 46 presidents looking just like your favorite animated friends. and joining me on the phone is the man who created these, dan, the senior writer at fan graphs. dan, thank you so much for being here. why did you want to do this for the presidents? >> well, it happened kind of organically, i didn't have any kind of grand artistic vision. i just like playing with photo algorithms with tech provisions. and it was kind of a rewarding saturday morning. and with president they weaken. i just thought i would try and out of see what happened. >> well, let's talk about that, let's look at some specifically and up close. let's start with joe biden. how do come up with -- well, first of all, what is happening on the upper left corner where he is a blue monster. how did that happen? -- well, these algorithms are still kind of written. and when you give them directions like make a pixar character, it has different
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interpretations of how to do that. so sometimes you get burnt hoover, and sometimes you get herbert hoover as a giant blue marshmallow. it's kind of the look of the draw. and i did about 50 runs for each president to try and get one that at least looked sort up the way that i was going for. >> i like the impressionistic take on president biden there, the smiling blue monster. next, let's look at what it did for bill clinton. maybe we could drop the banner so we can see all of the different -- okay, so, there are four very different-looking images. one looks like i'm a bit. so, what did you plug in here? >> well, i did ask for pixar, but occasionally it thinks pixar is muppets. and you had to give the photo a i some leeway since we're still kind of reinventing. how far they came in the last couple of years is pretty amazing. when you look back at some of the early valley stuff, it is very, very just rough compared
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to what we have. starting to get a muppet for george w. bush, i had a cyclops in one run for some reason. -- why >> does he give you a cyclops? >> well, a lot of these things are sarcastic. sometimes you, quote unquote, roll an odd image depending on the parameter that you put in. there's a lot of randomness involved or you would get the same thing every time. so, you have got a lot of bill clinton and usually a sweater, and occasionally you get a muppet on clinton or very strange angry bill clinton. you'll never know what happens when you play with these things. >> let's look at donald trump. or you also have a strange angry blue donald trump on the left side there in one of them. and then, my next favorite is teddy roosevelt. because it actually thought you meant, as soon as it popped up, teddy bear. >> yes, about 10% of the images
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for teddy roosevelt were teddy roosevelt as a teddy bear. i also got a lot of images of teddy roosevelt as a weightlifter with bursting muscles as if he was going to a street fight. so i guess that is kind of how the computers feel about teddy roosevelt. it does make me want to learn more even about him. >> that is interesting. so, that's how a i perceives him? >> really interesting to hear that. okay, so, dad you also did something fun for us. so back with my panel, we have -- and doug frankly, so then was nice enough to do this for us also, so mike would you like to see your a i computer generated -- >> i think you do want to select show mike -- picture right there, that is kind of awesome? now dan he looks a kind of
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angry, why did a i decide to distribute it like that? >> they could've given me more, hair >> why do you think they made him sort of angry there? >> well, generally speaking these algorithms kind of take, i wouldn't say unique but they take certain characteristics and they kind of homogenized everything else and it's really what the picture is, what the training they have because this particular model is trained on hundreds of millions of photos. so it's trying to get an idea from what it is given, what i'm looking for. and you do have a lot of grumpiness. if you look at, it they're going to have to be. there >> i mean, i can tell which is which, they're likely nestle phenomenal. >> okay, let's look at what you did for mali let's look at what a i did for.
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molly look right here look straight into this. oh my gosh. that's pretty great. >> i love it, it's great. isn't that great? with any thought, very quickly dan did you come up with any images that a i thought were just off? >> well, a lot of them were off. you should see some of the off takes for all of these. because again, it is not a human doing it. it is artificial intelligence and it is kind of a person like me with no artistic skills and it's very very sad. but to really get what you want to have to consult an artist but to have a little front you could use the ar for that. >> no, it's fantastic, natasha, look into your camera right here and let's look at natasha's a high computer
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generated image. hold on. look at that. this is really pretty. >> yeah, it looks like a young michelle obama, maybe? >> okay. >> yeah, the hair is different. >> doug, let's look at yours. >> oh, fantastic! look at that doug. >> oh my gosh, do you like it? >> yes, because i looked skinnier than i think i really am so i'm going to take it. >> all right, one last one, let's see what you did with me, okay. let me see. >> oh, that is amazing. >> that is good. >> look at that, that's a cool avatar for twitter. >> i like it a lot, dan, thank you, really appreciated, thank you for all of that. thanks for you guys, thanks for being here. that was fun. great having you guys. and thank you so much for watching. our coverage continues. engineered to elevate the senseses -
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