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♪ i like to move it, move it ♪ ♪ you like to... move it ♪ we're reinventing our network. ♪ ♪ ♪ fast. reliable. perfectly orchestrated. the united states postal service. >> good evening. president biden is in poland tonight after making a surprise at the history making journey to kyiv on this presidents'day. after months of secret planning an elaborate security
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preparations the president of the united states met with ukraine's president just four days short of year that russian forces invaded. with reminders that continuing threats quite literally sounding all around, the two leaders. many american presidents have made dramatic trips before, nixon to china, reagan to the berlin wall and president xi visited u.s. troops in war zones but never like this. this was the first trip ever by an american president into a worn zone without the protection of u.s. troops on the ground or american warplanes controlling the airspace overhead. american air assets were active on ukraine's border and moscow was told about it in advance. as for the presidents own message, here is some of what he had to say we >> know, it was one year ago this week. that we spoke on the telephone with the president. it was very late at night in washington, very early in the morning here in kyiv. russian planes were in the air
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and tanks were rolling across your border. you told me that you could hear explosions in the background. one year later kyiv stands. and ukraine stands. democracy stands and the americans stand with you and the world stands with you. >> on more concrete terms, the president announced another round of military aid to ukraine, but not the f-16 fighters, the long-range battlefield rockets that keep kyiv is seeking. still, the trough itself is meant to send to message which biden certainly underscored. >> putin thought ukraine was weak. and the west was divided. he has just been plain wrong. plain wrong. and one year later the evidence
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is right here in this room. with >> his journey to that room began late last year when he organized a team of white house pentagon and secret service officials to plan for. it the actual trip started at 4:15 yesterday morning, using a small mueller for 7:57 on air force one instead of a larger one usually used for overseas travel. with him, to reporters who had to hand electronic advice as after a fueling stop in germany, the president continued to poland and reported a plane for a ten hour override to kyiv. -- jake sullivan. the entourage arrive to a city that had been locked down with no explanation, only hints and speculation that something important was about to happen. and it did. a little more than five hours later, president biden was back on the train and then later back on the smaller air force one headed to warsaw, where he will meet tomorrow with the polish president and deliver remarks on the worst anniversary and -- all my nine members of nato's
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eastern plane. senior -- what phil mattingly is in warsaw for us tonight. senior chief international correspondent crystal ward is in kyiv. let's start with phil and clarissa. so phil, what is the white house saying tonight about the significance of this trip? >> you know anderson, the symbolism was carefully calibrated for maximum effect and a critical moment, inflection points, some white house officials have framed this moment in this war as the message that you heard from president biden both intentional and steadfast. but what has been most interesting is my conversation with white house officials have really been focused on the substance of the actual meetings between president zelenskyy and biden and their top advisers, underscoring that because this was such a critical moment in the war the path ahead understanding both what ukrainians are requesting and what they need, what you west officials believe, the battle space looks like in the weeks and months ahead and what they believed in the rest of their alliance can provide was a critical discussion to have. it went deep into the details. anderson, you alluded to some of the issues that president zelenskyy has requested in terms of defense capabilities and that the u.s. has not been
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willing to provide up until this point. i am told those came up, both with fighter jets and missiles systems, both sides laid up their r -- forward but also i am told, no red lines late out, undergoing just how significant this moment is in a war in its second year. >> clara, what has the response been like from ukraine, not only from officials but people on the street? >> it has been overwhelmingly positive anderson. from the moment that videos started leaking out on social media of that enormous motorcade going through the center of town, a lot of the ukrainians were stuck in traffic for hours, some of them forced to take the subway. but, they were frankly, very excited to see the u.s. president meet a visit that has been a long time in the making. highly anticipated. several invitations. from president volodymyr zelenskyy and zelenskyy himself said today, this conversation brought us closer to victory. and i think he is speaking largely in terms of the
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symbolism of it. the importance in this moment, when ukrainian forces have been taking a bruising in eastern ukraine when the ukrainian people have suffered a very grim and bleak winter. and to have biden visit, to have that kind of strong signal of support, it really was a much-needed boon for morale, and it speaks to a future partnership that you would ukrainians understand they can not win this war without. >> phil, was the white house concerned about russia's attempt to frame this conflict as a proxy war with the west? >> you know anderson, i posed this question to a u.s. official earlier today, right around the time we figured out what was actually happening. the response i got was, how would this be a new development? i think that underscores what we have talked a lot about the evolution and progression in terms of the willingness of what the u.s. is willing to provide in terms of weapons systems and scale and defense support and how much that is ramped up over the last 11 and a half months. so too has the comfort level with, on the u.s. side with how they were able to assess risk, how they are able to kind of walk through what they believe a russian response will be.
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and how far they feel like they can push things, without eliciting the kind of response that we, will bring this into much more dangerous territory. one thing i would note is a driving force behind that is lines of communication that have been opened up between officials in their counterparts over the last of the several months, one of those lines were utilized when the u.s. officials to form the russians that the president would be making this trip several hours in advance. it was considered a deconfliction assessment, a deconfliction call, not some type of diplomatic effort. they haven't categorized how the russians responded but it underscored there is communication going back and forth. perhaps that has given some assurance to the u.s. in terms of how they operate. >> interesting clarissa, there was no real nothing new here, obviously there was a big package of more aid announced today. yet, the types of weapons, the fighter jets, you know, attack helicopters and longer range artillery. those are things the u.s. is
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still unwilling to send. >> right. i think the most immediate short term need for the ukrainians was ammunition. i mean, according to a number of reports, including cnn's reporting, they have been burning through ammunition faster than nato and the u.s. can resupply it. so that was a much-needed sort of, injection. or a shot in the arm, if you will, for the ukrainians. to the bigger picture, as phil discussed, there hasn't been any kind of concrete sort of confirmation of aid forthcoming in that way. we did hear from president zelenskyy's chief of chat staff andrey yermak, who said somewhat cryptically that essentially, some of these issues have been resolved. and others, which had been stuck would now be sped up. we don't know if he is precisely talking about something like the fighter jets, for example. the uk had agreed that they would start to train ukrainian forces to use uk fighter jets, then went back and qualified it saying it would take years to actually go about that training. so, this is the frustration
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that ukrainian officials have here. is that, once they do finally extract the promise of really substantive weaponry or a that is really needed it then takes a much longer process to go about actually implementing that on the ground. we saw that with the patriot missile as well. so, i think ukrainians are hoping that we will hear more about a commitment to supply some of that have heavier weaponry but nothing concrete that we heard today. >> -- i want to go next to moscow, cnn's fred pleitgen. fred, how is the kremlin trying to frame this by biden? >> well, it is quite interesting because the kremlin itself hasn't really said anything at. one of the reasons for that is that vladimir putin of course, just a couple of hours is set to give his fundamental speech here in moscow. it seems as though criminal officials didn't want to take away from that. however, of course, the
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messaging itself is there on kremlin controlled media. also from some other russian officials as well. one of the things that they keep playing on was what phil said, that the white house informed the russians that president biden would be going to ukraine, there is some officials who are saying look, it shows that he had to ask vladimir putin for permission to come to ukraine, he needed security guarantees, as dimitri meditative, the former presidents this country said. there are also some prominent military bloggers their, they are very hard lined. they become very very important here in this country is this war has dragged on. clearly you can see this as a sign of weakness on the part of putin saying look, russia can strike ukraine anywhere at any point. then you have the u.s. president all of a sudden in kyiv visiting volodymyr zelenskyy. that certainly is something that is seen as critical by a lot of these hard-liners. but in general you can really see this all over the place on all russian media throughout the entire course of the day,
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obviously the russians are very critical of that visiting. >> do you know if any changes have been made to his speech tomorrow as a result of this trip? only talk about it? >> yes. so that is the big question, that a lot of people are asking, certainly there are some who believe that at least some of the contours will be a little bit different, or at least that putin, who is watching it might change a few details. one of the things that we heard from the kremlin earlier today is that vladimir putin was putting the finishing touches, the final touches on that speech throughout the better part of the day. so, he will obviously have seen that president biden was in kyiv. but i think that one of the things that the kremlin sort of has been trying to put out there as a narrative, reinforced by this visit, which is that the russians are essentially saying, that they are not just fighting ukraine. there are essentially fighting nato and the united states as well. this is something of a narrative that the kremlin has been increasingly putting out there, especially as things have been very difficult for the russians on the battlefield. sort of what they're saying is that we are up against all of these nato weapons that are out there.
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but i think one thing that is very important for our viewers to understand, from having been here on the ground, from feeling the vibe and speaking to officials also in parliament, there is absolutely no sign that vladimir putin will be backing down. in fact, it seems as though russia is gearing up for a very, very long and very bloody war in ukraine. >> fred pleitgen i, appreciate it. joining us now -- senior military analyst john curtly, also -- secret service agents, currently cnn law enforcement and the list. when you're with the secret service i know you prepared a lot of risky trip for -- visit u.s. troops. is this unprecedented? >> anderson, the only way i can describe it it as that the sicker see -- really extracted the possible from the impossible. thousands of things could have gone wrong with this trip but they only had one chance to get this visit right and as you said in the intro, it is not uncommon for presidents to angel hostile environments and go to war zones. we see it all the time however
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the manner by which this visit was planned from the very beginning and then executed earlier today, it appears at least at the surface level to deviate from the standard model that the secret service has applied towards these trips in the past. what i mean by that is that typically the circuit service, when they are going to these high-risk environments and high-risk trips, utilize this every variety of military resources both on the ground and in the air to support that. in this case the secret service did not have it. we cannot rely on that military support. really it was making it a very hard job, even more difficult for the secret service, the white house staff and all of
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this reporting agencies. >> were you surprised that they informed moscow in advance? >> i was a bit, anderson, but when you think about reasons why, and i will push back a little bit on what jonathan said, there was some military support but it was, let's call it over the horizon -- you can bet that they were tracking that train. they had combat air patrols up and potentially ready to go across the border, if anything would have attacked they probably had emergency medical teams on helicopter's and in the aircraft so i think there was a military element of this inside of poland but as jonathan said it wasn't on the ground, it wasn't in close casements, if you will of military personnel that was protecting the president. so i would bet that not only the secret service had some challenges on this but i would bet that the arrest so, the residual -- the u.s. embassy in kyiv probably had some sleepless nights. as well as, the very small number of people that knew about this trip in president lynskey's deep cow, they were contributing to security to. more people you tell, the more risk you take. so, that circumference of people who know what is going on has to be as small as possible and -- >> jonathan, there are so many raw vulnerable points along the way. obviously not just in kyiv itself, you heard aerate sirens going off but that train ride ten hours is a long time to be
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in in a one, not in one spot but in one train compartment on a track that everybody knows which way it goes. everybody knows which way you have to use to exit the country. >> yeah. i mean listen, from the secret service can't standpoint, that train is one point of the deadly diamond, you know that there is one way in and one way out that you are going to bring these dignitaries. i just want to bring out a point that the general raised, the secret service work with the u.s. state department services to coordinate support with trusted counterparts on the ground and i think that is what is really unprecedented with this. typically, when we bring the president into a war zone, we have seen this time and time again, our trusted partners are the u.s. military assets on the ground. our direct counterparts. we didn't have that this time. we had conducted a detailed threat assessment with ukrainian counterparts,
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coordinated through our diplomatic intelligence services, really to prioritize and manage the risk of this visit. but you are right, there are so many things that could have gone wrong, a ten hour train ride, being in the middle of the nation's capital with the air raid sirens going off. yes, we did notify the russians in advance, but that could've also telegraphed to other russian proxies that this was the moment to strike. so, there are so many things that could've gone wrong. thankfully everything went right and it was a successful trip. >> general hertling, obviously ukraine wants more. they want aircraft and they want attack helicopters, long-range artillery without that stuff, can they continue to at the very least defend themselves in the way they have? even if they are not taking back more territory, especially if there is a new offensive? >> absolutely yes anderson. what, there is a new shiny object every day. f-16s and yes it would be great to drop all of that stuff on top of the ukraine military.
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but, what many people don't understand is that it is part of the american way of war. it is not the ukrainian way of war. so when you drop something like an f-16, you are not considering what are the j techs, the tactical controllers on the ground, are they trying to incorporate them in close air support? other jammers in the sky, are the refuelling the sky, are there intelligence factors that can feed things to those planes that have targets? are there the maintainers and the trainers and all of those things that go into that and truthfully anderson, my sources on the ground are telling me ukraine has been challenged with some of the equipment that we have given them. they have not set up the logistics of supplying and training aspects of this even though they are fighting brave. don't let me detract of it all from the great fights of ukrainian soldiers are doing. but, they are wanting us to have a desert storm.
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and you are not going to get that, if you are just incorporating things by throwing them into the stew and hoping they get it right. it is a lot tougher than that. i think that is why the president is holding back on some of these. >> john hertling, thank you so much, jonathan wackrow as well. next, how americans view the war at this stage in the country's role in a, our senior data reporter harry enton, numbers on that. leader, former president jimmy carter and his decision to end medical treatment and enter a hospice care at -- remarkable life, his history as the longest-living ex president. *trade you're ready for anything. marriage. kids. college. kids moving back in after college. ♪ finally we can eat. ♪ you know you make me wanna...♪ and then we looked around and said, wait a minute, this isn't even our stroller! (laughing) you live with your parents, but you own a house in the metaverse? mhm. cool...i don't get it. here's to getting financially ready for anything! and here's to being single and ready to mingle. who's ready to cha-cha?! ♪ yeah, yeah ♪
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we are talking tonight about
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president biden's visit to kyiv in wartime. right now, how americans view the war. we're joined by harry enton. so at this stage the war do american still supported? how does that breakdown along political lines? >> they definitely support it. they support us funding in the support us sending military gear towards the ukrainians. the overwhelming majority, we're talking nearly two thirds of the country. that being said it is pretty clear the democrats support it more than republicans or independents. democrats, near 80% supports, republicans and independents in the low to mid 50s. there is bipartisan support but there is very clearly some partisan lines developing. >> so interesting that the republican party is supporting it less than the democratic party. >> as somebody who grew up in the early 2000s right, when we are used to republicans being the one who support war so much and supporting a broader u.s. policy, i think it is sort of flip 22 here. almost looks like you would see something from the 1950s in --
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>> what has the shift been in the last ten months or so? >> another way we can ask this question, are we supporting them the right amount, too much or too little? on the too much score, what we see is republicans now saying in fact we are supporting ukrainians a little too much. look at that, lean gop 51%, that is a 30-point jump from where we were ten months ago. you see overall that kind of mirrors what republicans are doing, but still, only a third of americans overall say that we are supporting ukrainians too much at this point. >> what about, is there sort of a marker of what might make americans turn against supplying more weapons to ukraine? >> you know, i think americans like winning. that was something donald trump said in that was something we definitely see in the polling as well. but we see right now is that americans, the majority, not an overwhelming majority but a clear majority, 51% say they believe that ukrainians are winning the war right now. russia only about a third believe that they are winning the war. but we've in the polling is that there is a clear correlation with republicans, for example believing that russians by the slightest
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plurality believes that russia 's winning the war right now, versus democrats overwhelmingly think the ukrainians are winning it right now. i think that if there is sort of a feeling all is lost i think support for supplying more gear and supplying money to the ukrainians would in fact fall black. >> interesting. harry enten, appreciate it. more now on what vladimir putin might tell russians when he speaks tomorrow, now the visit tomorrow potentially change any perceptions in the region. joining us now is norm eisen, a cnn legal analyst list but was also an ambassador to the czech republic, also cnn senior analyst and chief of russian operations steve hall. steve, first of all, what kind of impact do you think the president and his visit has may had on vladimir putin's reaction to it? >> well, first this is a huge, huge deals with ukrainians. i have never served in any place where the seniors in that particular government haven't said hey, is there any way we
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can get the american presidents? this is political currency, political capital. for ukraine, this is a little bit like a beyoncé playing at your high school prom. it is a huge deal for them. it is a big boost -- >> if beyonce played your whole high school prom if your high school prom was under attack. >> well, and that is your other side. first of all, -- everyone we, the morale is -- not just the citizens but the soldiers fighting and it is a huge flow to latonya to. he has got to be pretty upset about this, on the verge of epic speech that he is going to make tomorrow. so, it will be interesting to see what putin comes out with, whether he -- present cost of that as well of course. >> ambassador eisen, you know the reach are well on. joe what do you think the biden visit means for the solidarity of ukraine's western allies? >> it's very important. the russian military hollowed out by corruption, has shown that it doesn't have what it takes to win this war. the greatest threat is that the nato allies, the other western allies and here in the united states, morale will falter, that we won't stay the course.
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we know historically we have been successful when we do that. so this visit, this speech tomorrow will have the effect of stiffening our spines. we already see that, as you just highlighted that in what polls that -- softer, i am looking for that to go up. then of course it gives tremendous morale boost to ukrainians and our nato allies in the region. including the czechs, where i served. and those countries will be meeting with biden. so, it is too stiffen our spines above all. >> you know steve, investor eyes and makes the point that russian military has been -- that may be true but they can still throw 300 more bodies into the fight and probably even more than that, is there one, there is no off ramp at this point is there?
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>> steve, that's for you. >> sorry. you broke up there, could you repeat the question? >> there is no off ramp at this point in the war, investor eisen was saying that russia has been hollowed out by corruption. they can throw 3000 bodies into the fight. >> that is the way of war for russia. i mean, we've heard about the way of the war of the united states and how the russians do it. if you look back to world war ii for example, the tens of millions of russian soldiers that the russians, stolen and -- willing to sacrifice, it isn't hurt putin personally if he throws all of these pre pull into the meat grinder. sanctions don't hurt him personally. we all know he is going to be careful if it is going to -- inside of russia that he is going to have trouble controlling his own government and his own system. so that will be very interesting to see as well. >> ambassador eisen, you don't see any off-ramps do you? this can drag out for a very long time. >> anderson, that is right.
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paradoxically the desperation of putin, he has thrown those bodies at the ukrainians and it has resulted in devastating carnage for russia. they are stalled now in bakhmut in eastern ukraine, but paradoxically that has forced putin to levy strikes against civilian targets. hospitals, apartment buildings and crimes against humanity. the united states now accurately described those efforts as being. so that reduces the off ramp. there is little room for compromise. that is why we need to maintain our morale, our conviction. as was successful in world war ii, the cold war and other long term conflicts. and visits like this are so important. >> yeah, norm eisen and steve hall thank so much. next we will talk about jimmy carter and his choice in 98 to now enter hospice care at home.
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during sunday school at the marinara baptist church -- she read a faith for uncle jimmy. my faith demands that i do whatever i can wherever i am for as long as i can with whatever i have to try to make a difference. her uncle jimmy of course is former president jimmy carter who let sunday school classes there for decades. he's 98 years old now and in feeling health.
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on saturday the carter family announced that he has despite did to spend his remaining time under hospice care home with his family. cnn -- 's in plains for us tonight. what is the mood like there now? >> good evening anderson. a mix of sadness and pride falls over the town of plains, georgia tonight as residents here, about 500 in this tiny town, that just the news that the former president that they hold so dear is receiving end-of-life care. you know, we began the day anderson with miss bonita and her restaurant just down main street having some grits and eggs. she recalls was how just a few years ago who she took her own kids to see the former president during sunday school. that is because up until recently, he was conducting sunday school lessons at the church right here in this community. later on, we had the opportunity to meet michael dominic, he is a mail carrier
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in this town and also a painter. we saw him feverish lee painting this iconic statue of a smiling peanuts right at the edge of town. he said it was so important to get this done, to refurbish that peanut because he knows that all eyes will be on this community of plains. that statue, played an important role in the former presidents 1976 presidential campaign. take a listen to what mr. dominic told us. >> he don't want any recognition for any of that. i did the same thing in my life, i just do stuff because it needs to be done, just like i painted the peanut. you don't have to, he didn't want to make a big new statement about everything that he did. he was just a simple man. >> so, anderson, the former president, well known for his acts of service including his work with habitat from humanity, but for mr. dominic there, clearly there were some acts of service that he did not telegraph that were not public and broadcasted. that was just, who he is rather.
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>> anderson's -- cnn medical analyst doctor leana wen joins us now, also journalist author james fallows who served as chief white house speech writer during the carter administration. he now writes breaking the news on substack. doctor wen, can you just talk a little bit about what hospice care is? my mom got hospice care the last two weeks of her life. it is really kind of an extraordinary thing, particularly to have it at home. >> that's right. my mother also had hospice care, when she had end stage cancer. something that me and my family will always because thankful for. hospice care is something that is a specialized medical care or given to host individuals who are near the end of their lives. people have to have incurable medical conditions, generally, end stage cancer dementia, lung failure, heart failure et cetera, and also the anticipated like expenses c is less than six months. but the focus of this care, differently than other medical treatment is not on the cure,
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rather on ensuring quality of life. providing as much dignity and high quality days to the patient and the family, reducing pain and suffering. and tending to the other needs of the patient and their family, that they might have, their spiritual and psychological needs. it is something also, a type of care that is also really underutilized. so, i hope that more people will consider looking into this option if they and their family are eligible to provide again that quality of care in the last days and weeks and months of someone's life. >> james, it's great have you on the program. -- prtesident carter is not just the oldest president -- has the longest post presidency in history. how are you thinking about it? >> so, first, with the rest of the world i'm thinking sending my best thoughts to the former president. i think it is in keeping with his plainspoken-ness through his life and career that he would make sure that the world knew about this, the decision that he has made.
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like you said unlike dr. wen said, i've had family members who had gone the pastas road in some of not, press something president carter, it is -- making that clear. i think in many ways it is providential. he has had such a long time, 42 years as former president, ten times as long as he was the serving president and most americans today were not alive when he was in the white house. they know him in the new role he has invented for former presidents. he's the standards for what former president should do, the new identity is created for himself through all of his charities and interventions he has done. also he survived long enough to see reassessment of his time in office. things like the human rights campaign around the world, the panama canal treaty and bringing peace to israel and egypt, with the camp david accords. so i'm thinking about the way that his life, the four years in office and the 42 years since then will be assessed. >> so james, people may disagree with with his politics
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or how he was as president but just as a role model for living a decent life and a very, the most human life you can possibly live, he is an extraordinary example of that. certainly a north star should be for any former president about how to behave in their time after office. >> i agree with that. he could not have planned on having this many years. nobody can. he's a man of deep faith. he knew that his life was unforeseeable one day to the next. but if he had planned it, the most valuable thing he could've done is set this marker for how people in general should serve and care. and in particular how former presidents should comport themselves. the role was to use the influence they had in the country and around the world. as a moral example to do what they could to keep dealing with the challenges they dealt with an office. so we admire him and i admire him tremendously. >> doctor wen, in terms of hospice care, it is really up
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to the family or whoever the person in charge is, if it is not the patient themselves, but assuming he is competent, and a wake, he would be able to make decisions for himself, but there is somebody who basically is running the treatment, isn't there? >> right. so this type of care, hospice care, is very much patient and family-centered. it is based on the needs of that individual patient and their family. that is going to differ. so some people for example will prefer to be at home. some people prefer to be in another facility, there are specialized hospice facilities and you can get hospice care in a nursing home were in a hospital. it is done at home and if it's done in any setting there are entire teams of medical professionals who specialize in hospice and palliative care who attended the patient. that would be doctors and nurses and home health aides, pharmacists and other individuals who will visit the home. again, they will give the patient what they need.
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tonight, at least three people are dead and hundreds more injured in turkey and syria after a 6. 3 magnitude earthquake and dozens of n turkey today. this comes just two weeks after a massive earthquake that killed more than 46,000 people in the region. what is the latest? it is unthinkable that this happened again. >> it is anderson. i mean, that 6. 3 magnitude earthquake after shock, hitting this area, the city of antakya in hatay province in and around -- was absolutely devastated by the massive earthquake a couple of weeks ago. i mean you could barely find a building here that hadn't been impacted. when you have this powerful aftershock tonight several buildings, we don't know how
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many yet collapsed. at least three people's mansion have been confirmed killed. up to 300 are in hospital. right now 18 of them in serious condition. we have several search and rescue operations including this one behind me taking place. we have had rescuers working for nearly nine hours right now trying to locate three people who are trapped inside this building. there were four people when the quake hit. that was a house owner with three -- to get his belongings out of the house. something that we have seen people doing here over the past couple of days. that house owner was rescued alive. we don't know the condition of the three people inside but we know the family members have been waiting out here. you can see the shock and the fear in their faces as you are waiting for the news if their loved ones. all they could do right now is sit and wait and pray that they can make it out alive. >> >> there has to be fear but
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additional aftershocks. >> absolutely. i mean the emergency services here, the government has been warning people to stay away from buildings, there have been several aftershocks, we have felt several in the past few hours since we have been here. i mean anderson, hundreds, and hundreds of thousands of people right now who are living o in the open, living in makeshift shelters in tents and in the backs of their cars. people who have lost their family members and their loved ones, their homes and everything after that devastating earthquake. they were just starting to try and process what they have been through. trying to comprehend the loss. and this happened tonight. and i mean, we have been speaking with people who are just absolutely terrified right now. sleeping out in the open, we don't know what will happen to them. you can just imagine how they
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disgraced south carolina alex murdaugh is set to resume tomorrow with the defense expected to continue presenting its case. murdaugh is accused of killing his wife and younger son in a legit attempt to cover-up financial crimes. randi kaye joins me now with the latest. so you have some new reporting but we might see on the stand tomorrow? >> that's right anderson. a source familiar with the case tells me we can see buster murdoch take the stand first thing before the defense tomorrow. that of course is the only surviving son of alex murdoch. he would be the first murdaugh to testify at this trial, he will very likely of course anderson, speak to the family dynamic and of course alex's relationship to his wife and son. i'm told by the same source that we can maybe see accident reconstruction faced after this, someone who can pick apart after the murder scene that night, certainly get their take on and we can also see how that
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lines up with the state investigators and what they found at the murder scene as well. but anderson, we are now entering our fifth week of this trial and still so many answered questions. >> this is the snapchat video paul murdaugh stuck to his fans less than an hour people believe -- is well it wearing long pants in a blue shirt. but when alex murdaugh called 9-1-1 at 10:06 pm, after he says he found his wife maggie and his son paul dead, he was wearing something else. >> driven guns on you will? >> lean up against the side of my car. >> body cam videos recorded by the first investigators on the scene show or not in shorts and a white t-shirt. question is, when did he change clothes. and why? prosecutors have suggested murdaugh washed up and changed clothes after killing his wife and son. the murdaugh's former house keeper recorded him as wearing
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shorts and a collared shirt when he left for work. the day of the murders. and those clothes now? >> after june 7th, 2021, did you ever see that short again? >> no sir. >> the clothing murdaugh was wearing in the snapchat video was never recovered. one investigator testified she never found any bloody clothing in murdaugh's house, others have testified they didn't find blood in the house either. authorities didn't immediately search murdaugh's mother's home where he went the night of the murders. >> you don't know what clothes he took with him, what shoes he was wearing? you've no idea? >> that is correct. >> another question? where is the murder weapon? ballistics expert paul greer told the jury that some of this showcases found of the murder scene and on the property were fired from, or rejected by, weapons used before at alec murdaugh's home. before despite that, he could not say weapons seized from the home were used to kill maggie and paul. >> my result was inconclusive. >> another question. how did the gunshot residue get on the blue rain jacket found
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in murdaugh's mother house? >> i have confirmed 38 particles given that it is on the inside in order for it to be consistent with transfer, and object or objects with a high amount of gunshot residue would've had to transfer to it. >> an object like a firearm. prosecutors have hinted in court that perhaps murdaugh used to reject to wrap up the murder weapons and dispose of them. >> you have no idea how gunshot residue ended up on that garment. correct? >> i cannot tell you how either. >> since the rifle was used to kill mcgahn a shotgun was used to kill paul, another question is, could two guns mean there were two shooters? >> it is a possibility that there are two shooters. based on the data you have found. >> what [inaudible] >> another unanswered question. if alex murdaugh touched the wife and son after he says he
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found them shot -- >> i tried to take their pulse on both of them. >> why weren't any of alex murdaugh's foot prints or even the prints found near their bodies? >> did you see any footprints? >> no. >> did you see what appeared to be blood on alex murdaugh's hands? >> i did not. >> are there any other unanswered questions that stand out at this point? >> thank anderson, the biggest unanswered question is was alex murdaugh at the dog kennels after the murder scene at the time of the murders, early in the night he has told investigators he wasn't there until he found his wife and son dead, but at least eight witnesses, anderson, who testified that they heard his voice on a recording that was extracted from his son's phone and the time stamp on that recording is 8:44 pm, long before he called 9-1-1 anderson. >> randi kaye, appreciate it. just ahead, big win for alec baldwin's defense team in the fatal shooting of a cinematographer on the side of his film rust. details on that next. es and pains
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>> alec baldwin got a break today. prosecutors downgrading the manslaughter charges against him in the 21 shooting death of cinematographer halyna hutchins on the set of the movie rust. the decision, which also caused the film's armorer, reducing the prison time that they could receive, if convicted by five years. the news continues. the situation room with wolf blitzer starts now. [sirens] >> tonight -- an extraordinary moment in a war at a crossroads. >> when you later, gave stands, and ukraine stands, democracy stands. >> the president of the united states on an unprecedented and dangerous trip into ukraine. as russia's invasion nears one year of barbarism and bloodshed. >> this conversation bring

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