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very good tuesday morning to you, i'm jim sciutto. >> and i'm kristin fisher. soon president biden will be speaking from warsaw, poland, just one day after his unprecedented trip to ukraine's capital. the president of course expected to reiterate support for ukraine
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and affirm western values rather than rebut russian president vladimir putin's speech which we heard this morning. >> that's right. dueling speeches. in that speech the russian president blamed the u.s. for the escalation of the war in ukraine. of course it was russia that invaded ukraine a year ago this week. putin also announced that russia would officially suspend its participation in the new start nuclear weapons treaty. we should note the state department said last month russia was already not in compliance with that treaty. the question now is what happens next. this morning the polish president andrzej duda rolled out the red carpet for president biden. they sat down for a closed day meeting one day after biden's secret visit to kyiv. >> i would argue nato is stronger than it's ever been. as i told president zelenskyy when we spoke in kyiv yesterday, i can proudly say that our support for ukraine remains
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unwavering. >> we begin in warsaw where president biden will speak in the coming hours. kaitlan collins joins us with more. the white house deliberately saying this is not a response to putin's speech so what do we expect the president's message to be? >> reporter: they said it's not going to be some kind of direct rebuttal, they don't want to view it as dueling speeches, they didn't frame it that way but it will be challenging what putin said in his speech, what he's been saying for months ever since he started this invasion of ukraine. i think it will also not only be a challenge to what putin has been talking about but also an appeal to other western allies and european allies to continue supporting ukraine throughout this and really framing it in the broader picture of what it means not just for ukraine, not just for russia, not just for poland but really the global world order and what that looks like and maintaining that world order as you heard president duda referencing as he was meeting with president biden. one thing to note when it comes to this speech is it's the same
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place where president biden gave the speech 11 months ago right after russia invaded ukraine, he gave this forceful rebuke of putin and what he has been arguing and also used that moment to say he did not believe putin could not remain in power. of course, he is back here in warsaw 11 months later to deliver another speech with similar themes about standing up for democracy versus autocracy and what that looks like. and one thing that the white house has been pushing back on this morning is an argument that putin was making in his speech which is that the west is responsible for what's happening in ukraine. that it is responsible for this war. jake sullivan, president biden's national security adviser, said there is an easy way to push back on that is correct which is that if russia left ukraine tomorrow, the war would end, but they believe if western support, if u.s. support for ukraine stopped, that ukraine would disappear from the map. so they are pushing back on that. we will see if he weighs in on what president biden -- or what president putin said specifically about this nuclear arms agreement.
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we are seeing, though, a response of that, calling it irresponsible coming from the secretary of state. >> and that critical speech from president biden getting under way in just about two and a half hours from now. kaitlan collins, thank you so much. so this morning russian president vladimir putin responding to president biden's trip to ukraine yesterday, claiming that the u.s. is, quote, responsible for the escalation of the situation in ukraine, which is what kaitlan was just referring to. >> of course, denying that the cold hard fact that russia invaded ukraine a year ago, also in 2014 in crimea. frederik pleitgen is in moscow. fred, putin also said that russia is officially suspending participation in the new start nuclear arms treaty. the state department has said russia has already not complying with that by not allowing inspections. what's the significance? what are russian officials saying about this announcement? >> reporter: well, i think it potentially could be quite big
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significance, vladimir putin said they are suspending their participation but not completely walking away from it. it seems as though vladimir putin has left the door open to possibly walk back on what he said today and possibly come back or get into the agreement or utilize the agreement once again, buttill very significant because one of the things that vladimir putin said would not happen in the future anymore is any sort of inspections by u.s. officials at russian bases and that appears to be a reaction to the fact that you will recall last year the russians accused the ukrainians of striking an air base in russia called the engels air base where russia has strategic bombers that are of course nuclear capable, the ukrainians have said that russians are using those to launch cruise missiles at ukrainian targets. vladimir putin in his speech today as a justification for suspending the start agreement he said, look, they are helping ukraine to bomb our bases and now they want to inspect the bases. he considers that to be, quote, nonsense. so that was the justification that vladimir putin gave on
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that. certainly could be quite a significant step, at the same time he is kind of leaving the door open as we said. you guys are absolutely right, vladimir putin really trying to stylize this, if you will, to a conflict between russia and the west. it's very important for vladimir putin obviously especially with some of the setbacks that the russians have been suffering on the battlefield. that was one of the things that we noticed vladimir putin did actually not talk very much about. he did say that russia was in it for the long haul, that this was going to be a very long special operation, as he called t but didn't speak about the way things are going for the russians on the battlefield. of course we know things have been quite difficult for the russian military as of late, guys. >> fred pleitgen live in moscow for us. thank you. right now i do want to speak to a member of ukraine's parliament. thanks so much for joining us this morning. >> thank you for having me. >> you were noting on twitter as putin was speaking this morning
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that russia was bombing, continuing to bomb ukraine, striking a pharmacy, a public transportation stop in kherson in the south, killing people. i wonder as you heard the russian president dig in in effect for the war in ukraine, no sign of an interest in negotiation, are you bracing yourself for a long -- an even longer war in ukraine? >> well, it's just a reminder this war has been ongoing for nine years with one year of the full-scale invasion. so it's already quite a long war and we have to ensure that it ends as soon as possible, but for that it's not enough to have courage and resolve of the ukrainian nation and ukrainian forces of defense, it is important to be backed with the instruments to protect our civilians and to kick these invaders out, and that means additional weaponry for ukraine and that means also the urgency of its delivery.
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i think all of that could help to finally defeat russian federation and actually ensure that autocracies who understand only the language of power and the language of strength would finally back off. >> it appears that ukrainian commanders are preparing for a counteroffensive, intended, as you say, to take back territory in the coming weeks and months, taking advantage of some of these weapons systems newly sent into ukraine such as leopard battle tanks, abrams tanks, et cetera. are you confident that ukraine has the ability to take back territory even as russia is expanding the number of forces it has deployed in the east? >> well, once again, it's the urgency of the delivery which matters after the political decisions have been taken. so we're still waiting for those leopard tanks and abrams tanks to actually come into ukraine. especially in the quantities that we need as our commander in
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chief was requesting, i think also it's pretty clear we will need an international team. then i think we would be prepared to -- and equipped to liberate our territories. but once again, instruments are needed and the courage is not enough. >> u.s. officials said this weekend that they are now concerned that china might take a step it has not taken yet in this war and that is provide lethal aid, weapons, ammunition to russia. how concerned are you about that? do you believe if china were to come on to russia's side that that might tip the war in russia's favor? >> well, definitely we are concerned about this potential development. we are waiting to hear what the head of the chinese republic will actually say on the 24th of february as it was announced that he has some plans to announce his -- i don't know,
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suggestions. i do not believe they will be to any favor of ukrainian position, but definitely for us it's a warning sign and that means that russia will have additional equipment on the top of the canon porter that they are using at this particular moment by trying to occupy additional territories of ukraine. so, yes, we are worried, but, again, we are hoping for wise neutrality or relative neutrality that china has been conducting up until now. >> are you concerned at all as you see the u.s. and nato on ukraine's side, of course, providing much needed support, russia on the other side and china perhaps joining russia, are you concerned that ukraine becomes a proxy war between the super powers here and in effect you're stuck in between that conflict and that that lengthens the conflict and the suffering for the ukrainian people?
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s>> you have to understand russa has started this war as an imperial colonial war to ensure that ukrainian nation and ukrainian state are eradicated from the map of the world and that is the first task. if it succeeds, if it's allowed to succeed, then it will go further and then it will definitely turn into much wider conflict across the globe. so, therefore, i think we all have the chance right now where our interests are coincided in order to prevent russia from spreading its attacks on other territories and regions to finish this war with picking them out from ukrainian territory. >> it's been already so bloody in the first year. ivanna, thanks so much for joining us this morning. >> thank you. and joining us now to talk about all of this, cnn military
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analyst, retired lieutenant general mark hertling. good morning, general. i'd like to start by just getting your reaction to what we heard today from president putin. your reaction to his speech and also i think really the big news from that speech this morning which was that russia was going to be pulling out -- or not participating in the new start nuclear treaty. how do you view that bit of news in particular? do you view it as more symbolic or does it have some real teeth? >> well, yeah, good morning, kristen and jim. i do see it as somewhat symbolic but i also see it as putin hurting himself. i think he wants to gain more intelligence from us than we want to gain from him with this new start treaty. the comment by fred pleitgen earlier about they were concerned about how much intelligence ukraine had gained from the engels air force base in russia, which is near moscow, it was just fascinating to me
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because it's basically saying, hey, they want to target our facilities. of course they do. you know, but going back to your original question, like fred pleitgen i woke up and watched mr. putin's speech. besides the new start treaty, the comments about pedophilia in the west, traitors in russia will be punished, the west started the war, the west is responsible for ukrainian escalation. these are tropes we have been had a erring from mr. putin all along. his state of the russia federation, at least he didn't have someone standing up and yelling liar but he did have a lot of sleepy parliamentary members and generals in that audience because they have heard it all before. >> let me ask you, general hertling, those are not the words of a president who is looking to end this war. he's digging in and he may have china's help going forward. there was some hope that maybe
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this was the year that ukraine breaks through those russian lines, takes back territory, maybe russia sues for peace. as you hear those words and hear china considering stepping in, does that hope disappear? >> it doesn't, jim. one of the things i didn't mention about his speech, he had a big section where he vowed to systemically press the offensive, which tells me he is not changing his strategic objectives and as you and i have talked on several occasions those three strategic objectives that he had at the beginning of the war have failed in every single phase of the war. >> yeah. >> he has not been able to press those, he has shown the inability to get his soldiers moving on the battlefield and i don't think we're going to see any more of that other than more killing of russian mobilized troops which is going to be unfortunate. >> is china -- >> go i ahead --
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>> if russia is incapable of gaining territory but digging in and going to have help from china is it lengthening the slog? no clear winner but a lot of sadly death and destruction on the battlefield like we've seen so much in recent weeks? >> i think what we're going to see in the next couple of weeks is a rush to victory by both sides, if you will. russia is going to continue to put more on the front lines but they're mobilized untrained forces and it will create a slog and unfortunately a lot of death for russia soldiers and ukrainians as well, but i think ukraine is attempting to push the envelope, get trained in europe, in germany, poland, the uk, the various places where they're training and being able to capably execute an offensive. i see that happening later in the winter, probably early spring. so we're going to see some back and forth for a while, but i do believe that ukraine is going to take the fight to the enemy and regain much of their territory
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in the spring and early summer. >> goodness. it will be a lot to watch in the coming weeks because both sides seem to be digging in for something aggressive. lieutenant colonel mark hertling -- lieutenant general -- i didn't say lieutenant colonel, did i? >> those were some of my best years, jim. thank you. >> we do not demote our guests on the air. this morning back home in the u.s. the supreme court will hear arguments in a pivotal case for big tech companies. the family of a terror attack victim is suing google claiming that it promoted isis content on its websites. what the results could mean for internet regulation. plus, a dash cam captures the moment an after shock nearly as large, goodness, as the initial earthquakes rocks turkey. we will take you there live as terrified people have resorted to sleeping on the streets. and in about 15 minutes court resumes in the alex murdaugh double murder trial. a source telling cnn that his
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go to snhu.edu to get started. today at the supreme court a reminder of the terror attacks in paris nearly eight years ago now that killed about 130 people. the family of the lone american killed in that attack suing google arguing the company promotes and profits from extremist content posted on youtube. >> that was a horrible day that attack. it is one of the most significant challenges to big tech in recent history and could have major implications on the liability shields that have so far protected tech platforms such as google and others from lawsuits. jessica schneider joins us now. you spoke to the family behind this case, first of all, what's their argument and what's the court's approach? >> they're putting the human side of this into focus in what is a complex case.
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so this is the family of that american student who was killed in paris in 2015. they want youtube and its parent company google held liable for her death at the hands of isis terrorists. they say that google not only allowed on youtube this terrorist content, these terrorist videos, but also that they recommended these videos to certain viewers. youtube is responding back saying, yes, we have these algorithms that make these certain recommendations but we're broadly protected under section 230 which does broadly protect internet companies. and these tech companies they're saying here now that if that protection gets chipped away it could really mean monumental changes for the internet. >> we continue in this fight because we're seeking justice. >> reporter: the gonzales family legal fight started when their daughter was killed in paris in 2015. she was at a bistro when isis
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terrorists unleashed gunfire, part of a coordinated city wide attack of bombings and shootings that killed 129 people. she was the only american. >> it was a terrible moment of my life that i cannot describe the pain. >> reporter: the gonzales family now wants youtube and parent company google to be held liable for her death. they've lost in the lower courts but the supreme court agreed to hear their appeal and the lawyers will try to convince the nine justices the algorithms promoted isis affiliated viewers to certain viewers and that is how they recruited support. >> instead of terminating the videos, instead of eliminating them and deleting them, they promoted them. >> reporter: but google says they aren't responsible, given the broad protections of section 230 of the communications decency act. congress passed the law in 1996 to shield internet platforms from being sued for harmful
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content posted by third parties on their sites. google argues its algorithms recommending content are what makes it possible to behind the needles in humanitarianities largest haystack warning in section 230 does not apply the internet would devolve in a mess and a litigation minefield. there is no evidence the paris attackers were specifically radicalized on youtube but her parents allege they aided and abetted isis. >> they should stop iter in this will be the first time the supreme court will consider the scope of 230 and the extent to which it protects social media companies. the push to reform 230 is widespread. last month president biden penned and op-ed calling for modifications and republicans have repeatedly blasted big tech for what they call alleged censorship of conservative
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ideas. the gonzales family wants justice for the death of their dau daughter. >> it won't give me back my daughter but at least it is something good is going to be accomplished. >> and this case being held -- heard at 10:00 this morning. the gonzales family will be in the courtroom. this isn't the only big case before the court, there will be another one tomorrow that will deal with a family suing big tech companies, google, twitter, facebook. that's under a different law, an anti-terrorism law. so there are two big cases at stake here, big tech really bracing for what could be the ramifications because if these protections get chipped away it could mean big changes in how they operate. they might have to take down a lot more speech than they previously did. >> a lot more quickly. >> it's going to impact all of them, facebook, twitter, youtube. jessica schneider, thank you so much. still ahead a clinic opening today for people who say that they've had symptoms ever since that toxic train wreck more than two weeks ago. what we expect to hear as the
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at least six auto people are dead in turkey following powerful after shocks there. take a look at this dash cam video from turkey last night right as the 6.4 magnitude after shock rocked the hatay province. you can see the city plunge in darkness as everything started shaking. >> the aftershocks come as exhausted crews continue to search for victims of that
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deadly earthquake about two weeks ago and that quake killed 47,000 people in turkey and syria. cnn's nada bashir joins us live from turkey. could you feel the aftershocks from where you are? >> reporter: we absolutely could feel that aftershock. we are about 70 miles away from that epicenter in the hatay province which was among the hardest hit provinces in that earthquake two weeks ago. despite that distance we really did feel the aftershock here and it was a huge cause for concern and apprehension for many of the people around us. we were actually at a hotel and i have to say those people staying in the hotel many chose to move down into the lobby, bring their belongings with them and bring their due vase, covers, blankets with children sleeping for fear of another aftershock, that is how powerful the aftershock was.
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there have been several aftershocks every day for the past two weeks but this was the most powerful. for those in southeast turkey who have lost absolutely everything, they've been through the devastation and destruction many have been lost loved ones, many beginning to grasp the scale of the devastation and come to terms with that. to have to go through that again to relive the trauma has been difficult. authorities are assessing the damage caused by this latest aftershock. nearly 300 people injured in southeast turkey, among them at least eight in a serious condition and in a direct relation to this aftershock at least six people confirmed dead but of course this is a region which has seen already a growing death toll now topping 442,000 according to authorities in turkey. for those who did survive the road ahead will be long and difficult. this could take months if not years of recovery.
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the turkish government says it is committed to rebuilding the affected areas with a year, but for those who have lost everything there is so much more that needs to be done and the real concern now is with this aftershock taking place two weeks later many are struggling with the sense of year fear, a sense of apprehension, unsure whether or not their homes are sa safe. >> nada bashir, thanks so much. this morning the epa administrator is back in east palestine, ohio, to meet with people and officials worried about water and air quality since that toxic train disaster two weeks ago. you can see ohio's governor mike dewine taking a sip of water from the tap even right there, that just happened moments ago in east palestine. >> trying to inspire some confidence it seems, understandable fears in that community. the visit comes as a state-run health clinic is opening there this morning, some residents
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have been reporting rashes, trouble breathing, they fear coming from chemicals emanating from the freight train. omar jimenez has been following the latest. what is the e. epa's focus during the visit and what are we hearing about another hoe profile visit soon. >> reporter: part is what you saw on your screen, trying to instill confidence in some of the folks there in east palestine. also to meet with state and local officials. this is a follow-up to his visit last week. the epa is expected to announce additional measures for these residents as well and it of course comes as a state-run health clinic opens specifically to address concerns of potential symptoms stemming from the train derailment and subsequent chemical release. there have been many concerns. residents reported symptoms of nausea, headache, rashes, concerns and symptoms they
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believe could be related to that derailment. so far the epa says crews have gone to hundreds of homes, tested the drinking water and they haven't seen any dangerous levels of contaminants but residents also reported smells. tests including air monitoring are ongoing. now, this is the epa administrator who is here today, but also transportation secretary pete buttigieg has alluded that he may come to east palestine, though the timing still unclear. take a listen. >> there's two kinds of people who show up when you have that kind of disaster experience, people who are there because they have a specific job to do and are there to get something done, and people who are there to look good and have their picture taken. when i go it will be about action on rail safety, like the actions that we are calling on congress to help us with, that we're calling on industry to take, and that we are undertaking ourselves as a department to help make sure that these kinds of things don't happen in the future. >> and secretary buttigieg also
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alluded that he wanted the national transportation safety board to complete -- or do its investigation independent of him being there. we're also expecting to see teams from the cdc and department of health there this week. of course, all amid these rising concerns from residents. >> yeah, so many concerns and we are actually going to be talking to a doctor in east palestine coming up in our next hour. omar jimenez, thank you so much. still ahead this hour, alex murdaugh's lone surviving son buster expected to testify in his father's defense. we will be live at that south carolina courthouse coming up. h, people are working hard to build a better future. so we're hard at work, helping them achieve finanancial freedom. we''re investing for our clients in the projects that power ouour economy. from the plains to t the coast, we help americans invest for their future. and help communities thrive.
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today sources tell cnn that alex murdaugh's surviving son is
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expected to testify in his father's defense, as murdaugh's lawyers try to counter prosecutors' allegations that he killed his wife and his other son. the defense is expected to call a witness any moment. prosecutors rested their case on friday after calling more than 60 people to the stand. >> they also released a detailed timeline tracking the family's movements the night of the killing through videos captured on their cell phones. cnn's randi kaye joins us from outside the courtroom. tell us about this timeline. it's very detailed. i suppose one question is how close does it put alex murdaugh to the window when they believe his wife and son were killed? >> reporter: very close, jim and kristen. so that's why the defense really has its challenges set up for them this week as we prepare for buster murdaugh to take the stand. first of all n that timeline we know that maggie and paul murdaugh's phones, their cell phones, locked for good, ceased all activity at 8:49 p.m.
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that's a problem for the defense because eight witnesses have testified that alex murdaugh was at the murder scene around the time of the murders at 8:44 p.m. there was a video extracted from paul murdaugh's cellphone that was recorded at 8:44. he has denied to investigators that he was ever there earlier in the night, not until he found his wife and son dead, but eight people now say they hear his voice on that cellphone recording. we know also from the timeline he left the house at 9:06 p.m., said he went to his mother's home for about an hour, but the caregiver has told the jury that he was only there for about 15 to 20 minutes. that's also a problem. we also know from the timeline the gps data from that data that was released last week that he slowed his car down on the way to his mother's home in the very same area where maggie murdaugh's phone was found in the woods. the state is suggesting that perhaps he slowed down to drop it out the window. also we know he was speeding on the way back, the gps data showed he was going at least 81
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miles per hour on the way back to the home where the murder scene was, that was much faster than i anytime during the day. the state is suggesting that perhaps he was in a rush to get back. finally we know he arrived at the kennels from that gps data showing that he arrived there about 20 seconds before he called 911. remember he told investigators that he checked the pulse on both maggie and paul, he also tried to turn paul murdaugh over twice he says. could he have done all of that in 20 seconds? that's the problem for the defense. there are some hiccups in that timeline that they are going to have to have some answers for. >> that is a great point. randi kaye, thank you so much. so joining us now is defense and trial attorney misty maris. let's start where randi left off with that detailed timeline that prosecutors have just provided. i mean, it doesn't look good. >> yeah. >> for the defense. so what does the defense -- what can the defense do to try to
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counter that? >> yeah, great question. very strong close by prosecutors putting together all of that data into this really digestible timeline for the jury. so we understand dash because we heard all of this come out through testimony, but that timeline really fused it all together. look, the biggest problem for the defense is this 8:44 p.m. video placing murdaugh at the kennel. eight, nine witnesses identify his voice. he's denied ever being at the kennel. according to prosecution's timeline, all cellphone activity ceases at 8:49. so that time frame, that short time frame, if alex murdaugh is at the kennel and maggie and paul are dead at 8:49 p.m., that is an incredible hurdle for the defense to overcome. this is what they're going to be doing, and watch for this, because we're going to see this throughout the trial, we already saw it in cross-examination, the defense is going to be questioning the prosecution's time of death.
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we saw this with the coroner in cross on friday. the coroner testified on cross-examination that the time of death is an estimate and actually it's a three-hour window in which is based on the examination. so the prosecution is relying on that lack of cellphone data and to prove the actual time of death. murdaugh's team are going to try to say that the time of death could have been after 9:06 when alex murdaugh according to the data and the records from his vehicle is in his car. and, remember, they don't have to prove that is correct they just have to tell the jury it's a reasonable possibility that this happened during that time frame, the prosecution didn't prove its case. that's going to be critical. >> other parts of the defense strategy, the possibility of murdaugh's surviving son testifying, how do juries react to testimony from family members like that? the expectation here is he will
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describe a loving relationship between murdaugh and his deceased wife and son. >> right. so we expect him to testify about that loving relationship. remember the defense critical to their case. he might be a liar, he might have done all of these other financial misdeeds, but he would never kill his family. there's no reason why he would do that. he was a loving father. we expect to hear that. we will probably also hear about some of the threats that the family has faced, again, this goes to the defense alternative theory of the case, botched investigation, somebody else could have done this. you wouldn't know because the investigators screwed up and the crime scene was tainted in many, many different ways, but somebody like a son, the son of the defendant, it's easy for the prosecution to show bias, that's the whole point, to impugn that credibility, to show that there's bias. they have a vested interest in the outcome of the case. so that's how we're going to see the cross-examination play out. >> we should note these are live pictures from the courtroom,
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that is buster murdaugh taking the oath there, he's just been called to testify. >> he has. you know, so now his surviving son testifying right now, i guess the other big question, misty, is, you know, will alex murdaugh himself testify given the fact that his surviving son is now taking the stand? what does that say to you about the chances that the defendant himself testifies? >> this is a great question because i would have said no way in heck he testifies before this case began because he has all of this background, you know, the fraud, the -- all of those financial crimes, all of these inconsistencies, but at this point i think the defense team is probably seriously contemplating it. you put the defendant on the stand for two reasons, first to explain away these inconsistencies, to explain something away that only that person could explain, and to humanize that individual. keep in mind it's the
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defendant's choice so it's murdaugh's choice at the end of the day. the lawyers just advise and here all of that stuff, all of those financial crimes, the shooting on the side of the road, all of that's already in. it would have been a primary -- that the door is open to all of these inquiries the jury did not hear, they've heard it already. there's more of an analysis, a closer call for the defense to actually did he have in this case, i'm really interested to see how that plays out, but i could see it happening. >> it's a fascinating trial, it's a shocking trial from the beginning to end. thanks so much misty maris for walking us through it. >> and what a difficult moment this must be for his son who is now testifying in a murder trial, his mom, his brother killed. >> and his father accused of that crime. >> yeah. >> for sure. there he is right there about to answer questions. we will bring you more as it happens. another story we're following this morning, prosecutors in new mexico have downgraded manslaughter charges
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listen to figure, because just under 6% of the physicians are black given the population.
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>> and in infectious diseases for communities of color, we have jacqueline howard joining us, and it is a shocking stat when you are looking at it, and what is being done? yes, jim and kristin, more needs to be done to make sure that the physician workforce reflects the diversity seen among patients. what is done so far? we have to make sure there are more s.t.e.m. programs to make sure that young people get involved in the science and engineering programs, and we have seen with up to 21% increase in the number of first-year medical school students who identify as black or african-american which is promising, but the thing that we have to retain the students, and that increase transfers into the
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workforce, because when you are looking right now at the diversity of the current workforce of active doctors only 5.7% identify as black or african-american, and as you pointed out earlier that is in comparison to 12% of the population, and you can see the difference of the diversity of the doctors and the diversity of patients. so so, there are 6.9% latino and 1.9% native americans. >> and what would be the benefits? >> there are more engagement of trust, and that could shrink
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top of the hour this tuesday, i'm jim sciutto. >> i'm kristin fisher, and next hour, president biden is set to speak from warsaw, poland, one day after the unprecedented trip to ukraine's capital, and of course,