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our support for ukraine will not waiver. nato will not be divided and we will not tire. [ applause ] president putin craven lust for land and power will fail. and the ukrainians love for their country will prevail. >> a pretty powerful speech and i would say historic for the president. good morning everyone. president biden is making a vow on the world stage, russia will lose and ukraine will win with america's help. we are live in warsaw where the president is about to meet with leaders from the eastern flank. and we will break down the millions in weapons and aid that the you is delivering to ukraine. >> and a new half billion dollars that president biden has
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announced, there is skepticism growing at home. the party is growing divided on spending more money on ukraine. some are in up with biden. >> and the head of the epa drinking a glass of tap water, obviously very significant near the site of the train wreck in ohio. is that enough to assure they are safe? the epa director will join us on the program. >> one year ago the president promised to support ukraine after the invasion. >> my message to the people in ukraine is the message i deliver to ukraine's foreign minister and defense minister, who i believe are here tonight. we stand with you. period. >> this is now -- one year later, he has a similar message. >> that dark night one year ago
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the world was literally at the time bracing for the fall of kyiv. one year later kyiv stands. and ukraine stands. democracy stands. the americans stand with you and the world stands with you. >> president biden announcing an extra half billion in aid while on the ground at the start of this week. let's walk you through what the u.s. has provided up until this point. here we go. this is what we provided up to this point. over the last year the u.s. has sent nearly 30 billion in aid to ukraine. to put that in perspective wal-mart's revenue in 2022 was $573 billion. including the aid 100 million in artillery rounds and 6,000 missiles and rockets and drones, over 2500 of them. and plus, there is what the u.s.
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will provide ukraine in the coming weeks and months. okay? ukraine is set to receive the patriot missile system that the u.s. agreed to send late last year. the something that president zelensky pleaded for for months and just last month, okay, president biden's pledge to ukraine included abrahams tanks. that adds the u.s. to the list of allies that are sending tasks. i remember at the start of the war talking to cnn military analysts, about what was needed. those are like cannons and needed on the ground. all of this is necessary to keep ukraine in the fight. >> reporter: certainly big questions about what could potentially come next to ukraine. they don't have everything they have been asking for lately.
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let's bring in the white house correspondent jeremy diamond. we are talking about the u.s.'s steadfast pledge to help ukraine whatever it takes. there are real challenges, there are concerns of it becoming a stalemate essentially on the ground. how is the white house navigating this? what does it look like a year in for them? >> first, you look back to a year of providing assistance to ukraine. it's defined with the u.s. providing more sophisticated powerful weaponry to ukraine even after denying requests for some of that weaponry. think about to last object when a week long russian barrage destroyed a third of the power station plunges millions of ukrainians that the dark right before winter. i am told that president biden
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was outraged by russia's deliberate attacks on civilian infrastructure. and therefore he districted the pentagon to look for a way to get a patriot missile defense system. the u.s.'s most advanced defense system to ukraine. and until that point the u.s. officials called the the patriot defense system to complex and scarce to provide it but all that changed following russia's attacks. >> jeremy, what about the next year ahead. what is the sense of how aid will continue to evolve, because there are republicans that say, no more aid should go to ukraine? >> there are domestic political concerns but also broader concerns of how much ammunition and weaponry there is to provide to ukraine. u.s. officials are under new illusion this is a tough year ahead. there are dwindling stockpiles
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one is artillery. ukraine is fighting this artillery based warfare. and they are trying to get them to maneuver to a different style. and u.s. officials believe gives them a tactical advantage. and the question is, what is it next for the united states? we have seen them go back on the patriot system and go back on tanks and then provide those. now they are trying to get f-16s for example. or perhaps the high range missile system that ukrainian officials are asking for. >> we'll wait to see, jeremy diamond, thank you. and the broader context of what is happening today president biden is set to wrap up his final day. and you see china's top diplomat in russia today meeting with vladimir putin. this was just yesterday having a face-to-face with secretary
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blinkin. and now he is across the table from president putin. and that the chinese president himself may be preparing to visit russia. and they believe that china may be preparing to then deliver lethal assistance to russia, that would be a major help to them because they are having their own issue with weapons and equipment in ukraine. >> we'll be watching. the gop remains divided whether to sent support so ukraine. here at home republicans criticized biden for visiting ukraine and call for an end to ukraine funding. good morning to you melanie, live on capitol hill. how is house speaker kevin mccarthy handling this divide? >> it's a fight that will only
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intensify ahead. especially with the war raging on. in one corner of the party you have a large block of republicans looking to continue to help ukraine. you saw that at the conference and a large amount of ukraine delegates following president biden's visit there. but in the party you have a small influential block of republicans that are calling to end all aid, financially and militarily to ukraine. and they were criticizing president biden's trip there publically making it for quite the split screen moment for the republican party. this is a dynamic that kevin mccarthy is carefully navigating. he knows he needs the firebrand republicans, needs their support to do anything here on capitol hill. i asked him about a resolution from matt gates that would end all the financial aid to
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ukraine, mccartney says he does not support that resolution but the republicans are not just going to rubber stamp whatever the administration requests. >> i support ukraine but not a blank check. i think the actions that president biden has taken have been too late. >> this is something that kevin mccarthy will have to deal with as well as mitch mcconnell. it's unclear if that is a risk that mccarthy is willing to take. >> and it's quite a day for the stock market yesterday. quite a decline. the futures rupp after having the worst day since december. this was about big box retailers. >> markets go up and down. and i don't really care unless it's a 2% move. than was a 2% move yesterday. 2.5% for the nasdaq.
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you had a couple of big box stores signalling caution on the consumer. wal-mart many a great quarter 8.3% sales increase for stores open a year or longer. and that is good but they are looking to the future. the strength in the economy could mean more interest rate hikes than puts pressure on the economy. and seeing weakness in their low income consumers. so some caution from the big box retailers kind of struck a nerve yesterday. >> i was really struck by this from the wal-mart chief financial officer. saying that the consumer is still pressured. and savings rates are declining, they are really worried. there is home depot news also. >> they are worried about the future and worried as time goes by this extra cash cushion that
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families build up from covid will wind down and they are relying on their credit cards more. but what is interesting, things are resilient in the economy. we saw the retail sales numbers that were just blockbuster. they are worried about the future. and one other reason they are worried. good news for main street is bad news for wall street. and the fed will probably raise the interest rates for longer and they can because it's consumer strong. we are in this funny, confusing moment. >> home depot raising pay. >> that shows the tight labor market. they already start at $15 an hour, and they don't want to lose people. the biggest fear is not what is down the pike but holding on to workers. they have choices and they will
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job hospp. >> and holding on to the profits. we are in a struggling economy and coming out of covid. and there should be realationss from the companies. >> some companies see more caution ahead with the profit. >> thank you. okay, a huge cleanup underway after the train loaded with toxic chemicals derailed in ohio. now the state of ohio wants the train company to foot the bill. we'll be joined coming up by the head of the epa as he tries to assure people it will be safe. now, we are hearing from the foreperson of the grand jury investigating donald trump in georgia. and she just dropped a bombshell.
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welcome back this morning. the supreme court is hearing another really significant case that could reshape the internet and social media as we know it. the question is this, should twitter and social media giants be held responsible when isis and other terrorist groups use their platform. this after a man was killed in istanbul, the family is accusing twitter and google. i am fascinated by this and where the justices fall on it. it comes after yesterday's big case. >> right, the justices are really struggling here. this is the first time they are looking at when to hold these tech companies responsible for the content. and yesterday in court, the justices they heard a case from a family of a woman that was killed by isis and the family turned around and said, look we
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want to sue google that owns youtube. they felt like google has the algorithms that promote these terrorist videos and they should be held accountable. and google comes back and says, we are totally protected by this 1996 law, it was put in place to give us broad immunity from these kinds of lawsuits. and in court you have clarence thomas, really struggling asking where do you draw the line. and she said that shouldn't congress handle this? maybe not us. listen to what she had to say. >> we are a court. we really don't know about these things. these are not like the nine greatest experts on the internet. >> she said that, but let me tell you that the tech companies are worried. they are worried because if the
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court rules against it, it will lead to a deluge of lawsuits and then the companies will want to put out less content, chill speech, because they are afraid of the repercussions and finally they are worried that there will be less moderation. so more of the dangerous content out but the companies will be too scared to step up and moderate it. >> to see the alignment between the liberal justices and the conservative justices, it seemed to bode well for google on that. the epa administrator was back in east palestine, ohio assuring residents that the water they are drinking is safe. but they are not so sure. we'll talk to the epa next. above the gumline than f floss.
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grand jury on former president trump's attempts to overturn the election. the forewoman's recommendations. she says it's not a long list. they heard from 75 witnesses including some of trump's closest advisers. they are now reviewing the recommendations and weighing charging decisions. emily the forewoman wants to see some level having accountability. >> i will be sad if nothing happens. like that is my only request there for something to happen. i don't know necessarily know what it is. i am not the legal expert or the judge or lawyers, but i will be frustrated in nothing happens. >> wow. so now joining us is analyst, maggie haberman. it's interesting to hear a foreperson say that. i think it's important to hear
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from her to set this up. poppy mentioned hearing testimony from 75 witnesses that made their recommendations regarding the indictment. and the former district attorney made the recommendations. the foreperson said this, where she is sort of seemingly saying there might be an indictment for the former president. i want to hear what you think. here it is. >> we definitely heard a lot about former president trump and we definitely discussed him a lot in the room. and i will say that when this list comes out, you wouldn't, there is no major plot twists waiting for you. >> will he or won't he? >> maybe, perhaps. she seems like she is teasing stay tuned it's something related to him. but she does not go further because she got some instructions on what she can
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actually say. >> it's unusual. >> i have covered courts for 40 years and never heard of a grand jury foreperson say something like that. if i am the prosecutor i am not sure that i want this media tour taking place because i am sure that donald trump's lawyers are going to use this. based on what i heard last night that it's pred prejudiceal. >> i cannot imagine being fawny willis. you have the foreperson out there trying to make this decision. >> did she say, did he actually read the documents. >> this was not a total exoneration no more than the muller report. but i think that is a separate issue from what the jury forewoman is saying.
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i saw quotes, where she was asked about that quote, where trump talked about the ex on ration, i don't think that helps as a prosecutor. it's not automatic that charges get filed now. willis is an aggressive prosecutor, but in my experience covering courts this is not helpful to a district attorney when they are trying to put their case together. >> let me read you the first line from your reporting. you said that donald trump during the first time of his career spend time not paying lawyers and spent 30 million on his own fees last year. so him running for president, does that help to pay his legal fees and if he was not running he has to pay for it himself. if he is being investigated perhaps he won't be indicted?
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>> there say gray area on what happens. this is from his pac. from early 2020 and 2021 on claims of investigating widespread fraud. they did not confirm there was widespread fraud but this turned into a wide use pac and he was able to use that money to pay his personal legal fees. and now that he is a candidate, there are those that say he cannot use it anymore. i don't know how that looks as he faces two trials in april related to the woman that accused him of rape. and an intensified georgia investigation and intensified new york investigation. this again, is a guy that is facing enormous legal issues and the potential of paying for this
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himself, which he never likes. >> let's switch gears here. former president trump is going to ohio today. east palestine, to be specific. the site of the toxic train wreck. and as nikki haley is criticizing biden for not going. the transportation secretary, pete buttigieg has not within there yet. >> if trump was not a plus 20 direct for him, he would not be there. he is looking for opportunities to put himself in the news cycle. his campaign has not raised a lot of money. that is why you have not seen him do big rallies. he is putting himself in to show him as a contrasting president to president biden. he is not known for his empathy to begin with.
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so we'll see how this visit goes. >> yes. we'll see. maggie, thank you. always a pleasure. speaking of east palestine, there is new reporting that the epa is ordering norfolk southern to pay for the cleanup. and they say they will clean up the soil and restore the power and make sure that norfolk southern plays for all costs. they drank tap water to help to reassure residents that the water there is safe. straight now to talk to the head of the epa headquarters. sarah sidener is with michael regan, the epa coordinator. >> we are here in the epa headquarters, with the administrator, michael regan. thank you for coming on this morning. i know you are very, busy for a
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very unfortunate situation. let's first talk about something that don just mentioned. you went in and with the governor drank a glass of water and said look, things are okay. i will tell you, from one person we spoke to from east palestine, she said when i take a shower my skin burns and i have nausea and constant headaches and i don't believe this safe to drink or the soil is safe to plant anything in or the air is safe to breathe. what do you tell someone that is having symptoms like this? and she is not the only one. >> i think they have a lot of trauma in that community, and people are experiencing a lot of things. the first thing i would say, anybody experiencing any adverse health impact, they should seek medical attention from their primary doctor. and i was with the governor yesterday then opened a new clinic where they can guide
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people to seek medical attention. you know, i see them and i hear them. i am not second guessing their exper experiences. i can say that the water tested and the air that was tested came back with no adverse health impact levels. we can provide the data, but we will not second guess anyone's experience. i ask that they seek medical attention at the local level. >> you say they are going through the things. they say you have tested and they realize that. but you can't test everything. is it possible that some contaminants made it into areas that were not tested? >> i trust the data, i trust the science. from day one we have been on the ground along with the state doing the testing. at epa we deployed aerial
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testing, a high tech airplane, and we deployed mobile testing. a van that goes in and out of the communiticommunities. we have air monitors in the community strategically placed. nothing is coming back that shows adverse health impacts. and we are testing for everything that was on that train. and i also trust the testing protocol of the state. they have a very rigorous testing model. and they tested the municipal water. i would say for those on private wells, if you have not had your water tested, please contact the state. >> that is important. because what you are saying there is always a possibility that contaminates could exist somewhere, that has not been tested.
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and i hope that the federal government will pay for the tests. is that something that will happen? >> yesterday's announcement assures that norfolk southern pays for the mess they created. we tell people to seek medical attention, because as we force norfolk southern to take full accountability for what they have done, norfolk southern will pay for everything. and anything we do norfolk southern will reimburse us. they caused the mess and they will clean up the mess. >> how does that work, the epa at large to push norfolk southern to do all the things you mentioned, to take responsibility? >> yesterday's announcement laid out the fact that we are transition from an emergency response that was led by the state with epa supporting the
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state into a longer term cleanup phase. using my legal authority we can hold norfolk southern accountability. number one they will clean up every single piece of debris and all the contamination to epa specifications. and they will pay for it. at any moment we have to step in, we'll do the cleanup ourselves and can he can fine them up to 70 thousand a day. and we can charge them three times the amount of the federal government. that is what the law provides me. we'll hold norfolk southern acc accountable. and they have to design a specific work plan that is approved by the epa and we'll assure that every step is included and that no stone is left unturned.
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because the fact of the matter is they caused the trauma to the community and we'll make sure they pay for it. >> you and have i met up in mississippi and virginia on the water issue in this country, and the thing that comes up over and over again is trust. the communities in these places that have dealt with something like this and had contaminated water, with things like led or bacteria, they don't trust the state government or the local country. what will you do about the lack of trust, and they have reason for it, because sometimes they have been lied to? >> we talked about yesterday during the announcement. standing on the stage with republicans and democrats from two states at all levels of government, our sole goal is to win back and earn the trust of the community. we recognize that there is a trust deficit.
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i sat down and did a community round table and i visited the homes in the area of east palestine. i know that a trust deficit exists. they gave us some very prescribed solutions and we'll try to act on those. part of it is just being extremely transparent and making the information available an lowing them to take the raw data and information and let third parties validate that for them. we have to be transparent and forthright. as democrats and republicans we have to be united. >> you end it on making sure the water and air is safe. thank you michael reagan for coming on. >> all right, thank you. we really appreciate that. we need to tell the viewers tonight be sure to tune in to cnn tonight at 9:00.
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the governor mike dewine will be there. along with residents you don't want to miss that. miguel is on the ground as we hear from the ceo of norfolk southern. >> the ceo is talking and the governor is talking. this is the scene of the massive cleanup underway. we'll have more coming up for you at 8:00 a.m. also, this morning it's called rail force one. next, hear how the ceo of ukrainian railways and his team secretly got president biden into and out of ukraine. that is next.
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plane operated by the u.s. military, but instead on a train run by ukrainian railways. president biden boarded the plan at the poland ukraine border. that is where thousands of refugees traveling through as they were fleeing with their families and for their safety away from putin's war. they have dubbed the trip rail-force one now. and said it was an honor to host biden but added it was quite a complicated journey. and apologized for breaking the railways on time performance. still 90% of the trains on that secret trip did operate on time. he said it was painful for me and my team. only 90 per of the trains arrived on time. >> joining me now is the ceo of
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ukrainian railways. alexander thank you for joining us. i know you had quite a week. when did you find out that president biden was riding on one of your trains? >> we found out we would bring him in and out with this visit and i'm sure it's a historic moment for ukraine and the whole world. if you remember russians remembered to take kyiv in a few days. and on the 362nd day of the war president biden was in kyiv -- it's kind of really a historical moment. we are happy and privileged and honored to be the official carrier of the president biden. and we called our train rail-force one. >> reporter: rail-force one that is what you dubbed it since
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president biden has been on board? >> yes. >> reporter: you talked to my colleague anderson cooper a year ago and i told him then you were ready to host president biden. to travel in one of your cars. when you found out he was actually coming, were you kind of nervous? >> i was not nervous because focused and determined until the moment he left the borders of ukraine. because trust me it was a complicated mission and we had a job to do to make it happen in the proper way. and we have done it. >> what kind of preparation goes into that, how do you prepare to host the u.s. president in such a dangerous time and dangerous place? >> we worked hand in hand with the embassy of the u.s. and ukraine we worked hand in hand with other special services from
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the u.s. side and ukrainian side. and finally, we got this job done. >> you have also hosted other world leaders. every world leader that has come into ukraine travels on one of your trains getting into kyiv. what is the responsibility like to have people like that on your trains? >> well, we already have 300 delegations with worldwide leaders, presidents and prime ministers and members of parliament and the congress. and it's a responsible mission for us. that is how we help our president to make his diplomatic mission happen. and to every single guest of our diplomacy program, is an honored guest for us. we do our best to bring them in and out safely that.
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is first of all. second, they usually spend more time on the train than in the city. and that was the case with president biden as well. he spent 20 hours on the train and only four hours in the city. so we do our best to make their trip unforgettable. >> reporter: it's quite a trip. 20 hours with both ways included. the russians have struck the trains and the train tracks. are you ever worried about retaliation when something like this happens? >> well -- we kind of know what to do now. and we are ready for that. and actually we always fix, and get it back to operations. we never stop or cancel any single train. >> reporter: i think one of the
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most remarkable thing you said yesterday, the most complicated thing of getting president biden on your train, you apologized to other people that take the trains. that only 90% of the trains were on time. i think people can give you a pass as you were accommodating the president on a secret visit? >> for us, on time performance is an important focus. during the war people should rely on something. railways game a reliable transportation for our people. that is why we had to delete some trains to make the rail-force one run smoothly and safely. and i had to apologize because we usually strive to get a better performance but two days ago it was not that good. >> i know the war has had such an impact on you personally.
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you are trying to keep the trains running because it's a source of stability. and you, yourself, did not see your family much at the beginning of the war. how have you been doing? >> well, i have got personal impact, and like many ukrainians that is really significant and high priced, the payment. missing our families and having fighting in this war. and finally i'm sure that one dayspend more time with the fam and have some time. >> alexander, ceo of ukrainian railways, thank you for joining us to talk about your amazing
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trip you hosted for president biden this week. really appreciate your time. thanks for inviting. travel by trains. >> travel by train. it was such a -- it's such a good point he made about what a sign of stability the trains have been for the ukrainian people. the fact that they have been the main mode of transportation for so many, not just u.s. presidents and world leaders. >> yeah. can you imagine the responsibility? >> no. >> of keeping the leader of the free world safe and if something had happened to him, what happens to all the aid from the united states, you know? >> yeah. >> that was a big responsibility. >> that was fascinating. i am a travel by train kind of chick, too. i like them. >> yeah, when i was there, lots of travel. >> what? you guys fly to d.c. i train to d.c. did you not get it? okay. coming up, wait until you see this. listen to the man who literally dunked on the competition.
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i want to give you a shout out to mac mcclung. i definitely saved the dunk contest. that was beautiful. i haven't seen the fans excited like that in a long time. >> he is actually the only person who has something to lose. the other guys are in the nba already. for him to seize that moment, for him to stick, as they say in gymnastics, stick every dunk was incredible. >> it really was incredible from a g leaguer to the nba slam dunk
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contest champ, mac mcclung stole the show at this year's all-star weekend. watch. >> i'm worried about the guy holding the other guy. ooh! ooh! >> that was mcclung. ooh! ooh! ladies and gentlemen! >> it is over, ladies and gentlemen! >> mcclung joins the ranks of nba legends like kobe bryant, michael jordan, vince carter scoring 50 times during the sluk s slam /* slam dunk contest. i got a chance to talk to him earlier. >> it was amazing. we love so see a story like that. what is it like for you and to hear like shaq and chuck and everyone praising you like that? >> man, it's really been a blur. it's a blessing, you know. i was telling everybody being from a small town and just it's been a great experience and just
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feel really blessed and grateful. >> did you think you could pull that off, or did you surprise yourself? >> i have practiced the dunks. i think the biggest thing was getting the first dunk in. once that went down, it gave me a lot of confidence and the crowd was great and immemade mel the confidence. >> that crowd is electric. i have been there for past dunk contests. it's electric, right? the feeling is everything. as you know, lebron james, the nba's all-time leading scorer, just a few weeks ago our friend and colleague andy scholes asked him about you. listen to what lebron said. >> he's solidifying himself as one of the greatest slam dunk competitors that we've had in the history of the game. >> what do you think about that? >> that's surreal. i mean, lebron is definitely
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someone who inspires me on the daily. someone i was around for just a little bit when i had my stint with the lakers. see how hard he work, he was a big inspiration to me. hearing that is really great. >> "the washington post" writes this about you. they write, getting people to see you as a basketball player and not a viral sensation has been one of the toughest parts of your journey. i waund wonderfronter if you can talk about that a little bit because we see all the highlights here, but your goal has been play in the nba, like really play. >> yeah. i mean, that's my goal. i am still working to that every day. i feel like i'm playing well. our team is playing well. i am going to stay the course. not worried how people view me. you can't control what other people think. it doesn't bother me that much to be honest with you. i am just steady working and enjoying the process. >> just before the dunk contest
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you signed with the sixers. we saw you in a sixers jersey there. what do you hope is next for your basketball journey? you have many years ahead of you. >> yeah. i hope to find a role in the nba and i hope to help a team win a championship. that's my ult-. dream. i am going to continue to work. i really believe in myself and i will continue to prepare for that moment and i will be ready when it happens. >> mac, it was awesome for us to see, for us to witness. i am so happy for you. congrats. we will be watching as you build that career. >> thank you guys so much. i appreciate you. ♪ one year into this war, putin no longer doubts the strength of our coalition. but he still doubts our conviction. he doubts our staying
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