♪ ♪ top of the hour this wednesday. i'm jim sciutto. i'm kristen fisher. next hour, president biden heading home after this critical trip to europe including a historic visit to ukraine. this morning the president held a roundtable with the nato secretary-general and leaders of those nato countries that are

closest to russia's borders and the u.s. and its allies really facing this daunting challenge now of how to keep the momentum on ukraine side one year after russia's invasion. >> today as we approach the one-year anniversary of russia's further invasion, it's even more important that we continue to stand together, and i think this is proof of this, how strongly we feel. >> well, on the other side, russian president vladimir putin met this morning with a top chinese diplomat. putin says moscow and beijing are, quote, reaching new milestones as we learn now that a meeting may be in the works between putin and chinese president xi jinping with u.s. officials warning that china is considering arming russia in its war against ukraine. phil mattingly is in warsaw traveling with the president. i wonder, phil, what the president's message was as he was meeting the eastern-flanked nato allies this morning.

>> you know, jim, it's interesting you speak about the russian president, top chinese officials and what may happen in that alliance. the reality of that alliance which has grown closer despite china's willingness to go all in on russia has underscored, and the president has been focused on throughout the course of the last several days and none more so to close out this trip and then this meeting with the leaders of the bucharest nine and the nine countries that border russia and have made very clear and how unsettled and concerned they are over the course of the last year and this group which basically created because of russia's aggression toward ukraine that led to the annexation of crimea in 2014 and the president's message to nato allies was explicit. take a listen. >> we will defend literally every inch of nato. every inch of nato, and this is an important moment. i look forward to the discussion and the next steps we can take

together and to keep our alliance strong and to further deter aggression. what is literally at stake is not just ukraine. it's fred om. . >> guys, that last point has been one the president has tried to hammer home over the course of the last three days while certainly ukraine and its war with russia has been the central focal point over the course of the last 12 months. the president views this through a much broader construction, one that should drive western democracies to rally together over the course of the last year and what you alluded to is expected to be a difficult series of months ash head and o that will require assistance for the alliances up to this point. >> phil mattingly live in warsaw, poland. thank you so much. >> russian president vladimir put thain russia-china relations are reaching new milestones during a meeting with chinese diplomat wang yi in the kremlin

and this comes as the wall street journal reports that chinese president xi jinping can meet with putin in moscow soon. fred pleitgen, he's in moscow with more. fred, what does this say about china's potential role supporting russia in ukraine? >> well, i think it certainly shows how important china is to russia, just to have china meet with china's top diplomat and underscore how important those relations are and also say that xi jinping will come to moscow to meet with vladimir putin and those two leaders have had very, very close relations over the years that have only grown tighter, really as the u.s. has been putting more pressure on russia also because of russia's campaign there in ukraine, but i think this once again underscores just how important especially for the russians the relations with china are and at the same time you have a lot of issues between china and the united states.

obviously, not only because of that balloon that was shot down and also because the u.s. as we've been reporting has seen some indications that china is potentially arming the russians and giving russia military support and lethal aid for the war in ukraine and once again, and wang yi took a swipe. at the biden administration between the relations between russia and china are very close. he also said they are not directed against any third parties and they will not be subject as they put it to interference from third parties and obviously very much talking or seemingly talking about the u.s. in that. i felt one of the things that was quite interesting, i was reading the readout of the meeting that came from the chinese foreign ministry, that china was finding a solution for the war in ukraine and wang why i went to a gigantic rally here in moscow trying to rally support for russia what they

called their special military operation in ukraine. that was certainly something that seemed very interesting, but you know, it really is hard to overstate just how important china has become for russia, obviously, with all of those sanctions against russia from the u.s. and its allies. you can see it everywhere as far as russia's raw commodities are going and oil and gas and wood and timber. you also see it quite frankly on the streets of moscow as well with the amount of chinese cars drastically going up and chinese products in stores as well, guys. >> fred pleitgen in moscow, thanks so much. joining us is andrea taylor national intelligence for russia at the national intelligence council. good to have you on this morning. >> good to be here. >> so i wonder, if china does end up providing lethal assistance to russia as u.s. officials are warning, wolf blitzer asked the deputy national security adviser john

finer on monday what the u.s. would do in response? he said the u.s. has options, and he did not specify what those options are? what do you believe those options are in actuality and what is necessary to respond if china makes its move? >>. >> i think we're looking at economic tools and secondary sanctions in particular. i think we should recognize it would be a significant change in chinese policy. they've long look at the united states and our involvement as one of the primary reasons for our decline as they see it. so it would be a significant step that beijing would take. the united states has warned beijing very clearly and that's one of the reasons that tony blinken met with his counterpart there at the munich security conference which was to communicate directly the cost that china would face for doing so. so i think we'd be looking at things like secondary sanctions and other economic costs, but i

think the thing that needs to be communicated to china, it needs to come from also our european allies and partners. so china continues to try to portray itself as a neutral party, that they're not backing russia in its war with ukraine and that's in large part because they view that there haven't been any costs for the neutrality and they're primarily interested in keeping europe on the fence and so if the europeans could communicate, too, that there would be economic and diplomatic costs for that step, i think that would be even more impactful than some of these warnings for the united states. >> andrea, i'm really struck by the split screen that we watched this morning with president putin meeting with that top chinese diplomat while president biden sits down with members of the bucharest nine, those countries at the front line of nato both happening within just a few hours of one another. which meeting, do you think, has

potentially more significance on the future of the outcome of the war in ukraine? >> well, maybe just to say something about the context in which these meetings are taking place in. obviously, we're approaching the one-year mark of the war and as we reach that milestone i think the reality the heavy reality is setting in that we are facing a protracted conflict in ukraine. senior policymakers in d.c. are grappling with that reality. european capitals are grappling with it that and so is moscow. we have to understand this week as efforts by both sides to signal their resolve and their staying power. those are important messages for domestic audiences. president biden is making the case about the stakes president putin is setting expectations to his people that like it or not, this is the new normal, but also

the second audience is really each other and the two leaders are trying to convince each other that they are in this for the long haul. president putin believes that time is on his side and so this week is about president biden trying to convince him jotherwie because until putin believes that time is on his side he has no incentive to end the fighting. >> beyond ukraine, russia was hoping to launch a test of the icbm during his speech, and it didn't work out as he liked. this comes as he formally announced russia suspending its compliance with the s.t.a.r.t. treaty. we saw the nuclear forces treaty go away a couple of weeks ago. are we seeing the end of an era of nuclear treaties and nuclear arms control. there are no treaties as china builds its arsenal with china. >> i'm afraid that's what it's looking like and putin's decision, his announcement to suspend russia's participation

in the new s.t.a.r.t. treaty which is a treaty that limits both the united states and russia's strategic nuclear weapons. that announcement was significant because it bodes poorly for the future of arms control and that new s.t.a.r.t. agreement is in effect until 2026 and at that time both the united states and russia would need to find a replacement treaty, but the fact that putin has now suspended russia's participation suggests that we are coming to the end of this era and that is not in the interest of the united states nor in russia's. >> or the world's, you can argue. goodness, frightening prospect. >> so much more of a significant move and not just a symbolic one. andrea kendall-taylor, thank you so much. still to come, another high-stakes tech case goes before the supreme court today, and it could significantly re-shape online speech and content moderation. plus former president trump

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extremists spread their message. >> it's what appears on youtube, search engines, et cetera. jessica schneider has been following the arguments. i wonder what you're hearing and a lot of it is reading tea leaves and how the tech companies are arguing this, but what are the headlines? >> the headlines are yesterday, jim, the supreme court really seemed hesitant to step in here and really rock the boat in the way that internet companies operate. when it comes to the tech companies' side they continue to warn that any major changes to the laws that currently police the internet would really cascade -- would have a cascade of effects and disarray and chaos online and how things are sorted and delivered to content users as well as a threat of the wave of lawsuits. so today the court is actually confronting another case. this is a decision about whether social media companies could be held liable for allowing terrorist content on their site. that's all under a federal

anti-terrorism law, but as we saw in yesterday's arguments these companies are skeptical about making major changes to the status quo. >> lawsuits will be nonstop. >> the supreme court taking on the case that could reshape the internet and a family who lost a daughter and wants big tech to pay. >> we continue in this fight because we're seeking justice. >> the gonzalez family's long legal fight started when their 23-year-old daughter noemi was killed in paris in 2015. noemi gonzalez was at a bistro when isis terrorists unleashed gun fire. part of a coordinated citywide attack of bombings and shootings that killed 129 people. she was the only american. >> it was a terrible, horrible moment of my life that i cannot describe the pain. >> the gonzalez family now wants youtube and parent company google to be held liable for

noemi's death and arguing tuesday that because youtube not only allowed isis videos on its site and also recommended videos to viewers they aided and abetted terrorism. >> when they start sending things you haven't asked for, they are no longer acting as indirect. >> google says they are protected by the broad contours of section 230 of the communications decency act. congress passed the law in 1996 from being sued by harmful con content posted by third parties. google argues that shield also applies to any recommendations the site might make. >> implicitly recommending third party context defies the text and threatens today's internet. >> this is the first time the supreme court has considered the scope of section 230. the justices acknowledge if the

gonzalez family succeeds, that would open up the tech company to a flood of lawsuits and would require social websites to heavily police the content posted and the justices also asked whether it's congress and not the courts who should clarify how much tech companies are protected. >> every other industry has to internalize the cost of the conduct, why is it that the tech industry gets a pass? a little bit unclear. s on the other hand, we're a court. we really don't know about these things. these are not, like the nine greatest experts on the internet. isn't that something for congress to do and not the court? >> the gonzalez family has lost the case at the lower courts, but they continue to search for justice after the death of their daughter at the hands of terrorists. >> nothing is going to give me back my daughter, but at least that is something good is going to be accomplished. >> so the justices really did seem reluctant to undo any of

the protections of section 230, but they confront that different issue in today's case that is now under way. arguments started just a few minutes ago. the question today is whether a terrorist victim's family can sue social media for even allowing terrorist content on their site. guys, a lower court said yes that they can sue because of a federal anti-terrorism law, but a lot of court watchers are saying that the supreme court could possibly say no, you cannot sue for just the fact that these sites allowed content. in degree so, guys that would eliminate both of these cases without the supreme court having to decide any major issue. that's what court watchers are banking on especially given the reluctance that they saw from the justices about wading in big time here. >> not only reluctant and confusion coming from the justices. jessica schneider, thank you so much. joining us now is former legal analyst and former prosecutor jennifer rogers. jennifer, i'd like to start

right there. i'd just love to get your take on the confusion that so many of these justices expressed and you have justice alito saying i'm afraid i'm confused by whatever argument you're making. justice thomas saying i'm still confused. what does it say to you when you have that many justices just confused about the very essence of the case? >> well, i guess maybe it's a good thing that they're admitting what they don't know. i mean, one of the justices hit it on the kid and these are not -- that changes our lives and what the court should do about it. of course, they have clerks and they can learn and they're very smart people. we don't understand what's happening on the tech side, but also this isn't our job. just like jessica said it, this is congress' job. you have an old law that now is

not taking account of how these platforms actually work and the way the users interact with them and it's congress' job to fix that. they're confused by it, but more than that, they want no part of it. they want congress to fix this problem. >> they took the case. they don't have to take the case. what was the point? was the point to punt the congress and say this is congress' job? >> it was really interesting. it takes four justices to vote to take a case, but of course, five justices to form a majority and rule on the case. so it's unclear. sometimes they take it and they don't yet have flushed out what the issues are going to be or where they want to go and sometimes it takes the party's briefs to crystallize the issue and they don't always have a clear view in mind when they take a case of where it's going to end up, and i think these issues have just kind of grown in importance and ballooned in such a way that they're thinking now they'll punt on it whereas

before when they took it four justices thought they could give a clear ruling. >> and so do you think they are going to punt on it? based on yesterday's oral arguments and the ones that are getting under way right now, what do you think they're going to do? >> yeah. it's hard to read the tea leaves, of course, but if i had to bet, i would bet on them ruling on the basis of the anti-terror impact and not touching 230 for now. we have a couple of cases coming up in march that will force them to confront these first amendment issues head-on about what the platforms have to do in terms of content moderation. they may be waiting for those in order to make those tough decisions and urge congress to fix 230 themselves and not go into it today. >> jennifer rodgers, thanks so much. coming up, the biden administration is rolling out new asylum restrictions. what does it mean for those long lines at the border? we'll have more on the tens of

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the biden administration is rolling out a new restriction that would largely block migrants who travel through other countries to apply for asylum in the u.s. it is the biden administration's most restrictive regulation yet on asylum seekers that could affect tens of thousands of

migrants and also reminiscent of a trump-era policy at the southern border. >> priscilla alvarez joins us live from the white house. priscilla, what more are you learning? >> this underscores the concern within the white house about what is to come the next few months as they wrestle with mass migration in the western hemisphere. they're rolling out this asylum rule that would limit asylum in the u.s. marking a decades -- or a departure from decades-long protocol. what's different here? u.s. law right now allows migrants on u.s. soil the right to request asylum. the difference now would be that there would be a presumption of asylum ineligibility meaning if migrants crossed through multiple countries as they often do and do not seek refuge in those countries they would not be able to do so in the united states. of course, there are exceptions to this rule, for example, if someone is denied refuge in another country, but it is still

a market difference from where we have been before and has received fierce criticism from immigrants and democratic lawmakers who say this is reminiscent of trump-era policies. administration officials have rejected that comparison. they said it is not a categorical ban on asylum. one official did concede, quote, this is not our first preference or even our second. the goal is to push for migrants to apply for legal pathways from the united states from where they are instead of having them journey to the u.s.-mexico border, but the urgency here is important, and the time line they're looking at is may for this to take effect and it first has to go through a public comment period. the covid-era trump restriction that we have talked about so many times known as title 42 th that allows to turn back immigrants at the border, that

is up in may and that's when they anticipate this would take effect and it's one of the measures that they need. >> so if there's a presumption of ineligibility, that would mean they could not wait in the united states while they wait for their cases to be adjudicated. just because they passed through other countries and didn't seek refuge there, they wouldn't be able to continue on into the u.s. >> priscilla alvarez, live at the white house for us. thank you. moments ago former president donald trump leaving florida to travel to east palestine, ohio. the community impacted by the train derailment that spilled toxic chemicals just a few weeks ago, and it comes as president biden is facing harsh criticism over visiting ukraine, but not the site of that toxic wreck. the mayor of east palestine telling fox news that he was frustrated when he learned of the president's trip abroad. >> that was the biggest slap in the face that tells you right now he doesn't care about us. so he can send every agency he

wants to, but i found that out this morning in one of the briefings that he was in the ukraine giving millions of dollars away to people over there and not to us, and i'm furious. >> so president biden responding overnight. he posted this photo on instagram as he was on the phone with the epa and ohio state officials. he wrote, quote, i want affected residents to know that we've got your back. dana bash, this has become something of a political issue here. certainly on fox news there's a reason why former president trump is going to east palestine. is the administration aware of this politically and are they making an effort to devote more resources there? >> yes, yes and yes. just what you just showed the president on the phone putting out the statement saying i'm with you. that is an indicator that they get, that this is a political problem. let's just kind of give the backdrop of what you showed of the residents there on fox news

the fact that the former president is going. this is trump country. by the way, it doesn't matter, the entire country is biden country because he is the current president, but when it comes to just the raw politics, this is trump country. so there isn't a lot of -- of political grace that a lot of people in this region have already kind of built in for the current president. having said that, this has been a problem for weeks now and yes, the administration has sent the epa administrator pete buttigieg, the transportation secretary has been out there, but it's not the president, and it's politically kind of an easy backdrop for president biden's political opponents, particularly those in the trump wing on the national security front in the republican party who are much more populist, who don't like the idea of spending

really any money on ukraine and instead wanting to do it more at home. >> it reminds me of republicans pressuring president biden to go to the southern border. now they're pressuring him to go to east palestine. do you think he's going to go? >> it's hard to imagine that he won't when he gets back. if he doesn't go then it will probably -- the people inside the white house and who are gearing up for his own re-election campaign understand that just again on the raw politics of there, ohio is not a place that democrats are likely to win on a national level anymore, but it doesn't matter because he needs to show that he cares. >> the -- not just acting like he cares. the administration is working on it, but it's different when you actually have a presidential visit. >> the criticism came too late, right? >> exactly. >> the administration is in damage control. we talk a let about 2024. among presidential candidates and you will have big senate races and a tougher senate maps

and john tester announcing he will seek re-election and he's in a state that won't be easy for democrats to win. what does this tell us about the larger picture? >> the larger picture and we're talking about the presidential and we know from the last two years that congress and the makeup of congress matters so much particularly in the senate which is still so tight. the democrats are defending twice as many seats as republicans. a lot of those are safe, democratic seats and there are a handful and maybe more than a handful that are pretty tight. this is good news for democrats that john tester does want to stay because montana is so, so red and he is one of the few democrats who still has name i.d., sort of brand i.d. and can do well among traditionally republican voting electorates. >> understood. another thing to watch. >> good to see you. >> thanks, dana.

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>> thunder sleet, first of all, bryson in the control room calls it as his band name going forward. >> not a bad band name. >> chad myers, thanks so much. >> i can't play instruments. don't count me in. >> neither can i. >> starbucks is one of many companies that pulled stores out of russia following its invasion out of the ukraine and now it says there is no going back. >> what does it mean for the company's 6,000 locations in china. poppy harlow sat down with howard schultz to discuss what the future looks like in both of those countries. >> outside of the u.s. starbucks plays a significant role on the world stage. after russia invaded ukraine, starbucks pull out of russia. >> is starbucks gone from russia for good, do you think? >> i think starbucks is gone from russia for good. a very unfortunate situation. i think we did the right thing. >> in china where starbucks has 6,000 stores and opens a you in one every ten hours, schultz

calls the business headwinds unprecedented. as for u.s.-china relations. >> i'm going to say something that will probably be controversial, but this is what i believe. having been to china so often and trying to understand the differences, i don't believe china is an enemy of america. >> you don't? >> no. >> i think china is a fierce adversary economically. >> that's what you said to me four years ago. it hasn't changed? >> china and the united states independently will be better off if we can figure out a way to collectively co-author a global strategy. i don't believe in my heart of hearts that china wants to go to war with america and america wants to go to war with china. >> the human rights in china both the trump administration and the biden administration have labeled what is happening in xingjiang province to the uighur population, both administrations have.

you run a huge business there and your company stands for ethics and human rights here. >> yeah. >> how do you think about that? you must think about that internally and how you make business decisions investing there, whether there's a line that you would pull out. >> i'll tell you how i try and think about it. i am a corporate citizen trying to do business in china in a way that's consistent with the values of america and most importantly, i carry the american flag around the world as an american company, and i am so proud of the fact that starbucks is succeeding in china as an american company and the values of starbucks are being embraced by chinese consumers as a result of the experience that i create. i can't be in a position to dictate governmental policy in china, but i can demonstrate what good practices and values are about. >> have you met xi jinping? >> i have. >> what's your relationship with him? >> i don't have an intimate relationship with him and it's

hard to understand and predict. he loves his country like we love ours, but i think that he's pragmatic enough to truly understand that his vision for china, in my view, would be enhanced by cooperating in a way that builds good relationships with america, but i can't speak for the chinese government or president xi. >> back at home, schultz finds himself more optimistic on the u.s. economy. >> i don't see a recession coming as a result of this and i think inflation will come down by the end of the year. i think we'll hit peak inflation and the saber rattling about the recession from so-called economic experts. i think there will be a soft landing. >> saber rattling. no one had anything to worry about on the economy. >> we just can't make the american people so nervous. i think there will be a soft landing and i think for starbucks i don't think our prices are going up. >> thanks so much to poppy harlow for that interview.

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we'll bring in cnn medical correspondent elizabeth cohen and this is one of those things that you know is good for you, but now you have the study and the science to kind of back it up. >> yes. absolutely. i think we sort of intuitively know that when we exercise we feel better, we think more clearly. what these folks did was that they studied more than 1400 people for decades. they started when they were 36 and they ended when they were 69 and they tracked how much physical activity they were doing and they found that folks who did exercise all through this period of time that they had better cognitive abilities and you didn't have to start at 36. you can start later. it's not exactly clear what the tie-in is between physical activity and brain health, but it can be that it reduces inflammation and it gets new blood vessels to get going and you exercise better and therefore your cog mission is

better. kristen? jim? >> we just saw a video of lifting weights. is it a whole range of stuff that you do in the gym? >> it's the whole range of things. even just walking, walking can be such a great physical activity, and it doesn't have to be a whole lot. it can be once a month and in the study people who did it just once a month people had better cognitive ability and certainly you should do more, but any little bit helps. >> we will add that back to the list and we'll head to the gym right after the show. >> we'll go be active as soon as we get out of these chairs. elizabeth cohen, thank you so much. thank you for joining us today. i'm kristen fisher and it's been a pleasure to be with you, jim. >> i'm jim sciutto. kate bolduan starts after a quick break.

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