vikings curt cousins and marcus mariota of the falcons. they are producing this show along with mahomes newly quarterback it's expected to premier later summer. >> omaha. >> goal! >> that is a different one. cnn continues right now. i'm angry. i'm angry about this. i lived in east palestine for 65 years now. i don't feel safe in this town now. you took it away from me. you took this away from us. >> every right to be angry and to ask as many questions as they want. >> absolutely.

>> good morning everyone. welcome, caitlyn is off. anger fear and frustration at last night's cnn town hall. a railroad ceo coming face-to-face with residents after a toxic train wreck released a toxic chemicals in their town. and a tv journalist shot and killed at a murder scene when learn about the shooting spree that left three day including a child. and the grand jury investigating donald trump is going deeper into his circle. but we begin with the train disaster in east palestine, ohio. and pete buttigieg is going to the scene. just hours from now federal investigators are expected to release their preliminary report as to why the train derailed and burst into an inferno.

cnn analysts the video of the train leading up to the wreck. sparks flying from the wheels indicate they may have been overheating and the train slowed down dramatically but kept going for 20 miles before going off the rails. it raises the question, did the engineer realize something was wrong? and in the meantime residents if east palestine are afraid to live in their own home and in their own town. afraid to breathe the air and drink the water. >> you probably saw them last night on cnn's town hall. thank you for being here this morning. we appreciate you getting up early with us. jim, we were so struck by what you said last night in the town hall, directly speaking to the ceo of norfolk southern, and you said did you shorten my life? real questions you have. let's play for everyone how he

answered that. >> i hear you. i am terribly sorry that this has happened to this community. what i can do and what i will do is make it right. we are going to get the cleanup right. we are going to reimburse the citizens and we are going to invest in the long-term health of this community. i will see this through and we will be here. >> was his answer satisfactory to you? >> i was turned off by him. i really was. he is like a sincere man and i said that to him. you are probably a good family man and good husband. but i don't trust him he is about about big business, all money. as fast as we cleaned off the track they were putting new cars on. they were practically sliding them underneath. it's all about money. >> they committed to digging up

the tracks and digging up the soil underneath. what do you need from him, if allen is watching now. what would make you trust and feel a little more safe? >> well, the soil is what i'm worried about, the ground. and the air. the air and the ground, that worries me. my grandchildren can't play in the backyard now. what are we suppose to do? every day the trains go by it's blowing up the smoke and dirt and everything. and it's just redoing it. >> you have grandkids? >> i do. and he is 1 years old and very active. and my dog. he is scooting across that grass. >> what about for you? you really pressed governor

dewine and made him stay overnight. >> not just one night. the governor of pennsylvania put forth criminal charges yesterday. when is ohio going to do that. and i feel like the narrative was controlled so much by the railroad company early on leaning on their experts and their information early on and that did not come out right away, especially to the citizens. >> the transportation secretary, pete buttigieg will go to east palestine today. he concedes he should have gone earlier. what can be done on the ground today to actually help you guys? >> i think for a lot of people, no matter what happens now it will feel late on the federal response. this happened on the 3rd of february so -- i think he will really have to dig deep and find the right words to soothe

people's minds. >> one of the questions becomes then what about regulation now. there were some obama era regulations about trains carrying toxic chemicals, that were rolled back by the trump administration. but it looks like it would not have applied to this train. what should change on that front? >> everything. there is no way this train should not have been labeled. >> we should be able to read it off the train as it comes through. >> we should know what is on the train. >> the train was on fire for 45 minutes? >> that is scary and nobody did anything about it. it went from sebring, ohio to us and it's amazing. i just came into town and seen

the train come through and was like wow they have to do something. there has to be communication with the trains and our community. i don't know how we are hooked up. our police should have known it was coming and fire -- given a heads up. and say what is this issue? >> quickly, ben first, would it be helpful for president biden to come. there are some criticizing him for not going. would it be a photo-op or meaningful change? >> we want to keep it from becoming a political football. i feel like the president should visit. i feel like there is a lot of thing as long the line before that what should have happened. and our state officials and state epa, they need to be a little more stout to the railroad company. and i feel like that is more important and close to us. >> should biden come? >> i definitely feel he should. he is our leader.

he is suppose to make decisions and suppose to make things right. he needs to be seen. some of these people we haven't seen until now. and him especially. >> well, we see you. and we'll continue to stay there and tell your story. thank you for last night and this morning. >> thank you. >> keep us posted okay? >> yes. let's go to ohio's governor. thank you for joining us. did you have anything you want to say to these two residents before we get started? >> i am very empathetic to their cause. and the railroad needs to make it right. that is what i told the folks when i was there. they need to leave east palestine better than when they found it. and state and local officials i know will stay on top of this until that is right. >> let me ask you about something lieutenant governor,

the pennsylvania attorney general's office will investigate this after a criminal referral from the state's department of environmental protection. does that need to happen in ohio too? >> i think once we get the report from the safety board than could be the basis for a criminal referral. and i encourage them to look at that as soon as we see the facts surrounding the accident itself. >> you went to east palestine this week and drank tap water to assure residents that the water is safe. and we keep hearing from residents that they keep experiencing symptoms due to the toxic chemicals. you say it's safe. but even places they go they are served bottled water. what do you say to the

residents? >> if you feel unsafe you should drink bottled water. i spoke to the police and first responders on the scene and the fire station is within a stones throw of the railroad itself. and they were concerned about misinformation about the water so i chose to say hey, let's show people this has been tested and we'll drink it. look, any time you feel unsafe or uncertain about what is going on there, i encourage people to drink bottled water if that is what you want to do. jim and ben, are you guys drinking the bottles water? >> right now we are mitigating our exposure to the tap water. but honestly it's the exposed ground water. thousands of feet of ground water. if they drink bottled water but what are they suppose to shower

in and wash dishes in? >> what do you say to that lieutenant governor? >> look, it's the epa and local community and health department are test that water. look norfolk southern should temporarily relocate people if they feel unsafe living in their homes. i think that the railroad should consider buying property of people who may not feel safe or would want to relocate as a result of the spill. this is the railroad's responsibility and up to the governor officials at the federal and state and local legals to hold them accountable and do right by the citizens of east palestine. >> the long-term effects no one knows at this moment. you can understand that and their feelings? >> absolutely. that is why they need to get the cleanup, we are in the cleanup

phase now and it needs to be done right. the u.s. epa sent an order. and they have to clean that up and be transparent about it. i know that one of your guests this morning suggests last night they show the video, they record the video of the cleanup. i completely support that. they need to be open and transparent every step along the way. >> let's hear from nick. the ceo was at the town hall. >> i am terribly sorry for what happened to your community. i want you to know that norfolk southern is here and we'll stay here and get this right. we'll get the environmental cleanup right and we are going to support the citizens of the this community and invest in the long-term health of of this

community and help this community thrive. >> you said moments ago they should do everything they can to relocate residents, do you feel the company is doing everything they should be doing to help residents of your state? >> well, the mayor last night of east palestine said he thought they were receiving everything they need but that is up to the citizens of the community. just because 80% of them think it's going right and maybe 20% of them don't and whatever the needs are of those that feel uncomfortable, and look the closer you live to that site, probably you feel a little more uncomfortable there. i am sure that there are folks that live further away from the site that have a higher degree of confidence and if you live closer you have a lower degree of confidence. if you need to be relocated or whatever you need, norfolk southern should do that during

the cleanup stage until everything is assured to have been done right. >> thank you, lieutenant governor for joining us. and thank you jim and ben as well. we appreciate it. >> yes, absolutely. a 9-year-old girl this morning and a television journalist are among three people killed in orlando. the reporter was could having another shooting the shooting of a young woman when with the reporter was fatally shot. >> no one in our community, not a mother, not a 9-year-old and certainly not news professionals should become the victim of gun violence in our community. >> a 19-year-old man is charged with murder right now. right now the motive is unclear. we learn the name of the reporter, spectrum news 13 identified him as 24-year-old dillon lions. he is remembered by his colleagues as a great friend someone that took his job seriously, and loved his career. and they identified the other

employee injures as jessie waldon. we'll keep you posted on jessie's condition. >> awful. awful. >> terrible. the special council investigating donald trump is making another big and aggressive move. they subpoenaed his daughter ivanka and daughter jared kushner. they want them to testify before a grand jury. let's bring in paula reed, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. clearly no witnesses are off limits for special counsel jack smith. the fact that they are subpoenaing this couple suggests that the investigation is deep into trump's inner circle. and it's no surprise that he would want to talk to these two. ivanka was in the oval office on january 6th as her father was trying to pressure mike pence to not certify the results.

and to get the rioters to go home. both of them spoke to the house select committee about their investigation into january 6th and clips from ivanka's interview were played during the hearings including her reaction to bill barr. >> how did that affect your perspective when attorney general barr made that statement? >> it affects my perspective. i respect attorney general barr so i accepted what he was saying. >> this news comes after we learned that the special counsel subpoenaed former vice president mike pence and former chief of staff, mark meadows. this suggests the investigation is entering a later phase. >> are they going to cooperate you think? >> it's likely. they seem to be making an effort to rehabilitate their

reputations and they don't want to be lumped if with the steve bannons of the world. >> we'll see and keep reporting it out. but it's likely they will not completely ignore or try to not cooperate here. >> thank you. so sixth graders accused of making racist drawings and giving them to black students. why the parents are frustrated with the school's response. we go to ukraine as the russian invasion enters its second bloody year. i have sleep apnea. couldn't use cpap. now i have this. this is inspire. it's simple... it's just a button. sometimes i press his button.

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their classmates and the harassment has not stopped there. and they say that the school's response was delayed and offered little information. we are live in los angeles this morning. is the school taking any action here? >> the school says they are. the school district that is, don but the parents are not convinced they are worried about racism directed at their children at this predominantly white school but more, they are worried about their safety. >> there were black history cards and one person gave her one and the second child thought they could make a better one. >> those cards came into to her biracial daughter chloe. one called her monk and and one had a stick person hanging from the tree.

chloe is in the sixth grade. >> she knows she is black and embraces her culture but felt that black is different. before we are all black, hispanic, white. but it was never in a way she was made to feel different. >> and unsafe? >> definitely unsafe. >> marlene's daughter is a student in upland california, where she said that the racial bullying began with the cards and then continued verbally but it was not just happening to her can child. >> her daughter said she would get one too and it would be a slave hanging from the tree and say, my favorite slave. >> it said cotton and it was detailed and specific. >> they are made out of crayons? >> yes crayons. it's coming from somewhere. the parents? these are the parents of the kids my kids go to school with?

>> school board meetings across the country have increasingly become the setting for the nation's culture wars. but within school halls the accountability office says that race related hate is a widespread problem. one in four students ages 12 to 18 reported seeing hate words or symbols on campus and the more than 5 million reported being bullied, one in four were targeted because of their race or identity. >> a suburb nestled in the hills east of los angeles, the district superintendant says there will be no tolerance for racist behavior. >> they will be held accountable. >> it hurts. these are my baby. >> but the douglas children remain at home. chloe who first got the cards also has not returned to class. these parents are concerned for

their children's safety after a lesson they never should have learned at school. >> they need to see now and they are seeing it in a very harsh way, that not everyone will accept them or being accepting of who they are. >> we reached out to directly to the superintendant on the story and the district assistant superintendant, we have not heard back. the parents will keep them out of school until they are convinced that the bullying because of the race will end. >> thank you, i appreciate that. you know poppy, this is why the full history of the country needs to be taught and we need to have a discussion about it, because then you can avoid situations like this. history is painful, it's not always good. and if you have kids you know. >> they are already learning this at 5 and 6 years old. >> and they can absorb things. and we have hard and difficult conversations at home. i am glad he did that, i am

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welcome back. later today it is possible we could hear from alex murdaugh himself if he chooses to take the stand in his double murder trial. he is weighing now whether to take the stand. it's up to him not his lawyers. meantime, we have heard crucial new testimony from murdaugh's friend and former law partner of 35 years. let's talk about this with laura cotes. >> hi, laura. >> reporter: hey don. here it is. what a morning. hello everyone. >> what a morning.

i missed that moment. i love that. i don't think people totally know when someone decides to take the stand or not. the judge asks them if they declined to take the stand is this your decision and your decision alone and not your lawyers. you are a former prosecutor what do you think? >> as a prosecutor i would be salivating over the thought of a defendant taking a stand. especially because there are so many holes that need to be closed on his part alone. there was a conversation why there was a change of clothes on the snap chat video captured by his son. and there is conversations around cell phone data and the idea of his on star general motors data where his car was going and when. in addition to the financial alligations that are leveled against him. at the same token, are you right, it is the responsibility and decision solely on the

difficult, him or herself if they want to take the stand. a thing to think about is taking the fifth amendment. not to testify because you might imdiscriminate yourself. it may be prudent for him to think about that, whether he wants to open himself up to the execute any scrutiny of cross-ex cross-examination. >> okay, laura, i read the book, but were you at one point ever a defense attorney? >> i was never. you mean my "new york times" best selling book? yes, thank you. excuse me. thank you. >> let me ask you. you spent considerable time in the courtroom room then, how is the defense attorneys reacting to this.

what might they be saying this morning? >> well, listening the prosecution has a pretty uphill battle. not that the prosecution has to prove motive, they have to prove that the person committed the crime according to the element and meet their burden of proof. but the idea of motive is looming in this courtroom like an elephant. a 10,000 pound elephant in the room and why. and the prosecution has chosen to try to suggest that they are looking to say that the defendant hoped for the distraction of financial crimes and financial house of cards to take away from the scrutiny by committing these murders. but the defense is pointing out a lot of insufficieninsufficien. what happens when the officers came on the scene and not securing the crime scene and not being able to go into the house or look into the house or having a delay from the time the crimes were reported to the times they actually investigated it.

so the defense's strategy right now has been to say this team was inept and they don't have anything on our client. no direct evidence and a whole lot of circumstantial information. and a financial fraud crime trial within a homicide. and the jury has a lot to consider and if murdaugh testifies he may really make the case for the prosecution in the way his defense does not want him too. >> that is why the counsel asked to level the scope of the questioning if he takes the stand and the judge was not buying that. >> laura, we have to go but can you put up this full screen. this is people that have actually taken the stand in high-profile trials. there you go. ted bundy. charles manson did not. casey anthony and oj simpson. it's a risky move.

thank you laura, for helping us get through this. >> no one wants to be on those lists, thank you. >> thank you best selling author. see you soon. >> thank you, very much. >> bye laura cotes. it's almost a year. it's tomorrow as russian forces moved into ukraine and launched their violent assaults. cnn has been there every day of the war. and we are joined live from kyiv. also, adrian is live braving the elements in minnesota this morning. how are you feeling? how is it? >> reporter: poppy, i'm in your home town and laura's home town and i lived here for seven years and it's all good. i want to show you this, the last hour you could see my f foot footprints.

they are gone. that is how intense the snow is falling. we'll show you the elements we are braving right now and we'll tell you how long this will last

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today, actually it will be one year ago tonight. as it unfolded it was like 10:30, i forget the exact time. we were live on the air and i was doing a live shot with him and there was another person there. and we were in the middle of a discussion and it started to unfold. and you need to be safe because he was standing on a roof in kyiv. here we are a year later and it's happening. little did we know that russia's assault will carry on for a full 12 months and now the country is bracing for a second year of the war. >> christian joins us live from kyiv. no one bet toward give us this perspective from kyiv one year after this war began. what are your thoughts. given that going into this many thought kyiv would fall in days if not weeks?

>> that is the first huge reality check that we all need to really, really absorb and remember that this country has performed in an outstanding way, that no one and even the most informed allies the united states who had so much intelligence information, no one believes that ukraine either military or sense of people, would resist this full scale invasion. you remember with what you were just showing was the first offensives in what became a full scale invasion from belarus to the north and from the south and from the black sea and from the east into eastern ukraine and then paratroopers landing quite close to kyiv, the capital and trying to storm the capital. and none of it took hold. that is the most extraordinary thing. certainly around kyiv within a month or week, the ukrainian forces pushed the russian

columns back and pushes the russian soldiers back and revealed the most terrible crimes again humanity. i use the term because that is what the united states has formerly accused russia of. crimes against humanity. now, this whole world has been by and large won against civilians. it's a war in which russia tried to cow and break this country by the perpetual attack on civilians and civilian infrastructure despite trench warfare going on in the east. most of it has been about crushing civilians and they have not been crushed. >> let me ask you, because a year ago after this started, a viewer in kyiv, you were doing a show from there, and i was there. and you remember every few minutes the air raid sirens could go off and there was no rest for the weary.

and they dealt with that over and over and bombs would rain down on their homes and at train stations and what have you. compare today to what you see in kyiv today compared to what you were seeing there a year ago. what is the difference? is it similar? what's up? >> it's different i arrived a month after the war, and i was able to see a city that was still under siege but pushing back. and weeks later we saw the seethe broken and russia was forced to retreat. when we talk about air raid sirens and full attacks on this city like there was before and there has been all through, as russia stepped up attacks on infrastructure. trying to freeze and demoralize the population of this country over the winter, that has been less over the last few days. you don't want to tempt fate and say what will happen? and what will not happen?

obviously the streets, the city is not as full as it was before the war. people are out though. restaurants and bars and people are working to a great extent. and people have internalized the fact that they are at war and yes, it's a grim anniversary. and over in the east there are villages there that are terrified of a spring russian offensive. and there is like world war i trench warfare going on elsewhere. and i think the big story is, again this time last year's essentially while ukraine had been trained and helped and supported by the nato allies. since the first invasion in 2014 it was nowhere fully quipped to take on the counter offensives that they have. and over this last year ukrainians have asked over again

for modern advanced weaponry and they have received it and used it to great, great advantage. >> we hear church bells go on there. the a perfect way of putting it. saying they have internalized but they have gotten used to it. >> you are a chief international anchor so the appropriate you do the big interviews including this telling one there with the polish president. and you asked him a question about sort of how he sees russia's role in europe after this. what did you learn? >> reporter: well, it was really interesting. look poland is a frontline state. it's right there to the west of ukraine and they are along with the baltics and around the

ukrainian borders they were afraid that russia would swallow up ukraine and then move on to them. obviously nato said, if that happened then the full weight of nato counter offense could come down on russia, and so far it has not happened. but the eastern europeans have stood up in support of ukraine and in support of the international world order because they know what it's like when this is allowed to melt away. for instance, during the soviet period, the cold war, who was gobbled up by the soviet empire? it was poland and hungary. which is why they chose to become members of nato once they were free and independent. that is the story, and that is what they have been able to help western europe and the united states stiffen their resolve and likewise the baltic states to

really defend this country. and don't let us forget. even though russia is not successful in this war what it lacks in quality it has in quantity. they have three times more population than ukraine that means more of throwing human beings at it, if that is what putin will decide. we don't know how that will go. and where it will lead. so far the u.s. state department called the so-called spring offensive, quote, very pathetic. >> thank you, good to see you as always and be safe. thank you. so next hour, the nato secretary general will join us live here on cnn. and tonight at 9:00 p.m. we host top biden national security officials for a cnn town hall. russia's invasion of ukraine one

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using the national security advisor john bolton james webb space telescope. galaxies dating back to 500 to 700 million years after the big bang. it could unravel what they long believed to be true about the origin of the galaxy. so joining us to discuss astrophysicist neil degrasse tyson director of the hayden planetarium. so good to have you, sir. good morning to you. >> thanks for having me. >> so the james webb space telescope reportedly spotted galaxies dating further back. so what makes this discovery so surprise sng is it surprising to you? >> there is this period of the early universe the dark ages where the matter and energy were there but hadn't yet formed stars. and so they had to sort of coalesce, undergo thermonuclear fusion in their core, turn on,

gather into galaxies. and then so the universe begins with stars and galaxies as we come to know and love it. and in that gap we don't really expect anything to be there. and these new objects appear to be in that gap. and so this would completely force -- force us to completely rethink what's going on back then. by the way, the jerojames webb e was designed to help understand the origin of galaxies. we shouldn't be surprised that we're surprised with that out there. >> you said rethink what's going on back there. what's the rethinking? what are you thinking now having gotten this new information? >> i don't know. >> wait, you are the astrophysicist and you don't know? that's why we have you here, neil degrasse tyson. >> the whole point of doing research on the frontier is you are stepping into places where no one has stepped before.

the whole concept of the james webb space telescope was to see the universe the way no previous telescope had ever seen it. so some things you will verify that you expect to be there, but you also expect to make discoveries that nobody ordered. and then, yeah, we got to say what's going on. and, yeah, there is nothing wrong with not knowing. this is part of how we live. >> this is one of the co-authors of this study. this is in a statement. it turns out we found something so unexpected it actually creates problems for science. it calls the whole picture of early galaxy formation into question. so again -- >> so -- >> go on. >> just to be clear. okay. so let me reword that, okay? i respect how that is stated. let moo he reword it. you discover something new. it doesn't create a problem so much as it creates excitement. a new understanding of the universe. we delight in this.

it's not like we are sitting back with our legs up on the table basking in the knowledge of the universe that we have command over. no. we are always at the drawing board. and people say, scientists have to go back to the drawing board. we are always there. if you are an active research scientist, that's where you live and you are befuddled daily. plus, of course, the universe brims with mysteries. like i said, by the way, we need better data. there is a whole other wave of data you can obtain on this and that's spectra. you take the light and analyze what comprises it. from that you can learn how fast it's moving, where it is in the expansion model of the universe, what chemistry is going on in it. that's another layer of discoveries which might tell us, no, we're misidentifying it in this stage of discovery. so a lot can happen. just watch this space, literally and figuratively. >> a lot is happening now, especially with my sleep deprived mind. i am like, this is a lot in the

morning. i need another sip of coffee here. everything that you are saying, to be clear, we are not abandoning, are we, existing models about how galaxies form and evolve yet? right? >> we might have to. yeah. but that's okay. that's okay. it's not bad day. that's a great day for science if and when that happens. but so you don't want to jump don conclusions before you get even better data. often on the frontier, conflicts and problems resolve once you get better data. like i said, spectra is how we actually decode the universe. these pretty pictures are fine, but behind closed doors we are analyzing spectra and that's like the fingerprint of that object where you can identify the chemistry that's going on. as i said, the motion. is it rotating? what is comprising the light? how fast is it moving in the expansion of the universe? that comes next and at that

point we will get a strong handle on what it is we are looking at and decide whether we have to keep scratching our heads or see if it fits into what was previously understood. >> okay. meanwhile -- >> i just have to give a shout out. we are celebrating the science that comes out of james webb. but engineers built this thing, all right? and we parked it a million miles from earth facing outward away from the sun. nobody ever interviews the engineers and i wouldn't to have to give them a shout out for what they accomplished to enable and empower the science that we dreamed up be that we would be discovering. it's a complete collaboration. >> shout out to engineers. i'm with you on that. we have been talking about this large metal mystery sphere washing up on a beach in japan. according to the bbc, it's not a threat but also have no idea what it is. some theories, godzilla's egg.

these are theories because sometimes people don't understand that and they think that -- >> just to be clear, einstein had a theory. you have a hypothesis, just make a distinction. >> what is this thing? >> i have no idea. why does everybody have to know everything at all times? [ laughter ] >> why to we have you here? you are saying i don't know about a lot of stuff, mr. astrophysicist. >> because that's what discovery is. >> okay. >> discovery is what you are doing when you don't know what you are doing. you are on the edge. so, yeah, it could be a hoax. somebody put it in the ocean and had it wash up. godzilla's egg, i love it. you know, don't poke it unless you are ready. so i would be delighted when we learn what it is. it's probably something prosaic, unfortunately. but people's imaginations run wild and that's fun. that makes great