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i'm alisyn cam . welcome to "cnn tonight." honoring the people of ukraine fighting for their country for a year and the song includes an unexpected guest. ♪ however you talk, whatever you think, from the song that you sing to drink that you drink ♪ >> i'm fighting for our children, our parents to defend our houses and families. ♪ to love each other like crazy ♪ >> i'm guessing you recognize that voice but if not, brad paisley will tell us who that is in a moment. plus, a dramatic day in the alex murdaugh trial. how will the jury respond to the defendant that admits he's been lying to everyone for years? >> you lied to maggie, didn't you? >> i did lie to maggie. >> you lied to paul? >> sometimes. i would have lied to randy at some point, i'm sure.
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>> did you lie to him about the last time you saw your wife and son alive? >> i did. >> all right. we're going to bring you up to speed on that trial. also, part two of our voter panel. i sit down with parents around the country to talk about gender issues and who should decide how those are discussed in schools. how many of you believe the governor should be making decisions about curriculum in that state's public schools, any state? show of hands. so is nobody raising their hands that a governor should be making decisions? >> the governor is not qualified. >> absolutely not. absolutely not. >> okay. so our panel has a lot to talk about tonight and they are standing by as you can see but first, we want to bring in country music star brad paisley to talk about his new song called "same here." brad, great to see you. >> it's great to see you guys. thanks a lot for wanting to talk
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to me tonight. >> so we played a little snippet of your new song and i'll do the big reveal. that was president zelenskyy in your song. it's not every day that president zelenskyy is in a country song. so how did that come to pass? >> well, about a -- i guess, it was last summer we did a fundraiser for ukraine on nbc with a bunch of celebrities and singers and actors and, you know, they were looking for an original song at the time and to get involved trying to write something for an event doesn't really work. it's -- you know, the next thing you know there are all these legal issues. the song got scrapped but i had already written this and in the process they heard it and one thing led to another and he's -- president zelenskyy is very smart about how to reach people. he saw this as an opportunity, i think, to go straight for the heart and basically say through a mel ody and a song that we're
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all the same. that was the point i was trying to make. these people fighting for freedom and showing us in so many ways what it looks like to really crave the things that we take for granted over here. but yeah, i wanted to write something that kind of talked about the world's similarities and free people. >> and you did that and you achieved it. in the process, you had this zoom call with president zelenskyy. what did you two talk about? >> well, what we had done in the process since the show had been being worked on, i said, you know, i said, i was thinking about putting a ukrainian singer at the end of this but wouldn't it be even more impactful if president zelenskyy wanted to take the last couple minutes of the song and just talk about things? and basically said anything you want to say, talk about how we're the same, the things that matter to ukrainian that probably matter also to an
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american and the list was -- you know, if it tells you anything how similar we are, we talked for 45 minutes before we w whittled down what went in the song. >> so let's listen to just a portion of that. ♪ ♪ hi, brad ♪ ♪ hello, mr. president ♪ >> we speak different languages in our lives but i think we appreciate the same things, children, freedom, our flag, our soldiers, our people. >> that's beautiful, brad. i mean, that's it. so what was it like having this -- having him for 45 minutes and having that conversation? >> really surreal. i mean, we're talking about somebody that i see as he's on the front line of democracy in the world and he was so generous with his, you know, his comments
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but also his time and also his attention to wanting to be a part of something that reaches people with the message he wants to send and it all was i guess meant to be because this was the kind of thing really i can sit here all night explaining it but no explanation how this happened. >> is it true he also offered you edits to the song? >> oh, yeah. actually, the last verse was its own thing:. it was similar to this. there were a couple lines smaller in scale and he mentioned things that would be great as far as the last, the last lines of the song go and that's what i -- i didn't change them exactly to what he said but i got close and, you know, i took his advice on that and definitely one of those stranger songwriter notes i've ever seen. >> so tv star -- from comedian to tv star, president, global leader during wartime,
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songwriter, you know? that's -- >> yeah. >> wow. so brad, are you thinking about going to -- i know you've been even before this, i know that you have been trying to help the people in ukraine. you've been involved with helping the displaced. there are so many millions of people that have been displaced and rebuilding houses. are you planning to go to ukraine? >> i'd love to. i mean, i don't have any plans at this point but i would love to. when it's right. when the time is right and everything is safe enough and the kind of thing that's not a bad move, i would like to do that. but i think that it's going to be, you know, i really would like -- it's one of the things we talked about. it would be amazing to see those people i'm talking about first hand over there. you know, if i'm going to need to put my money where my mouth is here. >> brad, what do you think americans get wrong about ukrainians or ukraine? >> probably a lot of things.
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any time that we assume that they're different than us and too drastic of a scale, i think we're on the wrong track as human beings. these things we talk about in the song, the first verse of the song is about california from the vantage point of me in tennessee. the second verse is about a wedding in mexico and seeing just all of the same exact emotions and move across the world really and any time you make assumptions that it's just different and we're on the wrong track people want the same things and, you know, it's really inspiring to watch them as they are fighting for these things that we have already. >> the proceeds of the song will
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go to the charity. one of the panelists is so moved by the song and listening to you he whispered to me he will offer frank on camera and wants to make an offer to you if that's possible for $10,000. >> brad, you're a cultural icon and treasure to the country. i know the things you've done already and appreciate this coming from a ukrainian background. all you have to do to me is say share a cup of coffee because i want to thank you in person and donate $10,000 to your charity tonight. what you've done is awesome and we need more americans like you to step up and many heard. thank god for you, brad. >> so is that a yes or no, brad. >> that's an absolutely yes. i'm buying the coffee, though. >> let's do it. are you up in new york all the time or just there right now? >> i'm here now but i'll go to wherever i have to go. >> well, i'll meet you in new york. there is great coffee. let's do it. >> you got it. deal. >> it means the world to me that
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you would do that and all of the proceeds will go to build 4200 houses for people, basically. because these folks have lost their homes and so we got to put a roof back over their heads. that's what my part of this united 24 charity is doing. >> guys, that's so wonderful. building bridges, building homes for people and you two creating this bridge here. brad, it's so great to talk to you. thanks so much for sharing the song with us. it's beautiful. the sentiment behind it is so powerful. and we can't wait to check back in with you and see how it's doing. >> well, thank you and again, frank, you know, i like cream in mine. [ laughter ] >> you can have whatever you want. i'll even pay for the sugar. [ laughter ] >> unbeknownst to you guys, i'm coming along. thanks so much, brad. we'll talk soon. >> thank you. we're here in the studio with joey jackson, frank, "new
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york times" emma goldberg and patrick mack. that is really beautiful and important what he's doing. particularly at a time where americans are reassessing how they feel about the involvement, you know, contributing money to ukraine's war effort. >> actually, they're not. one thing down should know i did the same thing with your brother to have lunch with him. i wanted an hour. he gave me 2.5 hours. it was worth every dime. >> i'll give you three but i don't know if i can afford what my brother can afford. >> that's okay. >> we are the same. 70% of americans want us to do exactly what we're doing or even more and only 28% want us to do less. the majority of republicans, independents, democrats, the vast majority want us engaged, involved and appreciate investments because we see this is a crime against humanity. and let us not mince words, either we hold the russians accountable now or have even worse consequences later.
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>> emma, how do you see it? >> i mean, i think that's absolutely right. we were hearing from putin and zelenskyy this week there is many -- there is a lot of months of battle ahead of us. when you look at the toll of what is going on, it's 8,000 lives at least of non-combatants last in ukraine and 8 million refugees filling in europe. this is a humanitarian crisis costing lives. it's displacing millions of people and then you're seeing ripples affecting the economy and we're all being touched by this. that's why i love and closer to home than we might like to think. while people would rather look away from the images of the devastation, we have to appreciate how up close it is and how many lives this is up ending. >> i totally agree. music is the universal language. everybody resonates with everybody, any culture that you're in. you understand the poignant of
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music. he's using a tool to raise awareness and money. >> this is why you let musicians and artists write the songs, right? be the creative forces. i love what he said not letting the corporations get involved in making the song. i think this is something we all really missed during the pandemic, right? i know for me when i could go out to a restaurant and see my friends and go -- i remember literally when i went here from new york to see my first live music in a small club, that brings people together and as frank said, brad paisley is a legend in our culture and music business and to see the way he's doing so much good for the world and bringing people together with his music is just awesome. >> yeah, i think first of all, from musical perspective, it's so important. it brings us so much joy, so much togetherness and brings about so much emotion and so much connectivity and then you look at a couple of other things in terms of similarities that we have. what do we want? we want safety, security, opportunity. we want our families to be well
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and prosper. you know, we want love. we want cheer. we want to have happy lives and to see that being really taken away in such a -- just such a horrific way is really hard to stomach. one of the points is about world order. ukraine certainly has connected with so many people just based on their response, theoir resiliency and saying heck no, probably another word they use but this is not going to happen and then you see it on a large world stage of how the world has come together and to some degree how the world is endangered by what is happening now and how will the ending of this war really affect us all. we're not really far removed from that when we talk about ballistic missiles and that type thing that can hit us. so it's a really teachable and turning time in the world right now. >> actually, the ending part, we know the consequences of november 9th, the day the berlin wall fell. we know the consequences of
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september 11th. >> that's right. >> of january 6th. i think this is the fourth great date, february 24th, because on this day, we are put to the test. what will we do now? you saw what happened in the buildup to world war ii. the world just allowed the german effort to move forward further and further and further and did nothing. we see what happened when we let terrorism go unchallenged, unchecked. and i know that there is some republicans who want to stop the funding and a few democrats, as well. the public says absolutely not. why is it that the american people have learned more from history than these extremist members on both sides of the aisle who say we're only focused on the money we give to our country just for us. the fact is this is for us. this is for them, this is for the entire global community. you stop aggression or it will continue and it will overwhelm us all. >> we will talk about the
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politics of it coming up in the program. thank you-all for that. now, here, alex murdaugh. we need to talk about the trial. he testified for six hours today and grilled about his alibi, his pill addiction, his lies to police and to his family. so how will the jury react to all of his lying? for skin as alive as you are... don't settle for silver. harness the power of 7 moisturizers & 3 vitamamins to smooth, heal, and moisturirize your dry skin. gold bond. champion youour skin.
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. today alex murdaugh admitted he lieed to investigators repeatedly about his whereabouts but insisted he did not kill his wife and son. >> all right, let me ask you a question, it was a random vigilante, the random people that killed maggie on june 7th and knew they could be at the kennels alone on june 7th and knew you wouldn't be there but only between the times of 8:49 and 9:02 that they show up without a weapon assuming that they're going to find weapons and ammunition in there and they commit this time during that short time window and then they travel the exact same route that you do around the same time to ala alameda. that's what you're trying to tell this jury? >> you have a lot of factors in there, mr. waters, some i don't
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agree with and some i do. >> joey, how do -- i mean, it seems like the jury has to suspend a lot of disbelief to believe that entire scenario as the prosecutor just laid out. >> they very well may. this gives perspective to what they were doing as in the prosecution and talked about all those financial crimes, right? talked about how he ripped off every client, no matter if you're a paraplegic, parent, he would take your money and look you in the eye and the prosecution in the closing will say just as he looked at you and said he didn't do this, you can be as assured of his guilt. they can establish he's a liar. the issue is whether they established he's a murderer and that will be the critical question. you really have to look and look and isolate the timeline. there's a lot of things that he has to explain that i think he did not explain to the level of
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satisfaction a jury says you're not guilty. >> the vid greo is crazy. he was caught in the kennels at 8:45 p.m. police believe they were shot at 8:49 and 9:02 and where was he? >> and he went back in the car to the main house. >> and he didn't hear gunshots? >> there are a lot of questions to me not answered today. i mean, the obvious, let's statement the obvious we know if there is one juror that is sympathetic and believes him, he's going to get off and two of the people on the jury were crying at least yesterday during the trial. to me, having looked at what this, he and this family has done, i mean, the lineage goes to them dominating the prosecution in this part of south carolina. so just listening to this man, not having the knowledge that my friend next to me has about the legal business here, just watching it as a layman, i'm thinking to myself, this guy is
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used to dare i say getting away with murder in his life. he figures he's going to find a way -- >> like the entitlement. >> that's what he and his family seemingly have done for many, many years in this part of the country. >> ron darron, no murder weapon. you're shaking your head -- >> no dna evidence. look, i think the timeline is damming here. i mean, it is all circumstantial to your point but how much -- how generous should we be to this guy and his experience that evening before concluding there is no way he didn't at least know he did this double-murder. >> do you think the no murder weapon and no dna is enough to sway a jury? how powerful is that to you? >> to me personally, it's not very compelling given the i information we have. >> there are shell casings and still cartridges from this ar
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style rifle that his family owned. he said the gun went missing. that ties the family to the murder weapon. >> i think this is a watershed moment because he had been silent for so long and people were waiting to see what will his defense be? he told on himself. he presented am image of someone living a double life and misrepresenting his whereabouts and lying repeatedly to cover up financial crimes. so just standing up there and revealing a very consistent pattern of dishonesty, that's hard to take in in the context of this entire story. >> i think it's also significant that he took the stand in the first place, right? it typically defendants do that as a last resort. they clearly thought this wasn't going the way they wanted it to be going so, you know, mary, the guy will take the stand. i don't think he acquitted himself today. when we come back, a signature voter panel is going
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our panel is standing by to share thoughts on this hot button topic. we brought together parents from across the political spectrum to tackle the topic of gender issues in school. if the governor of any state should be the decision maker on curriculum. how many of you believe the governor should be making decisions about curriculum in that state's public schools, any state? show of hands. so is nobody raising their hands that a governor should be making decisions? >> the governor is not qualified. that's not -- >> absolutely not. absolutely not. >> so show of hands, how many of you are comfortable that governor desantis is weighing in in such a way in florida's
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curriculum and education. show of hands. none of you are. show of hands. is governor desantis cancelling certain curriculum that he doesn't like? is he engaging in cancel culture when he gets rid of these certain tenants of, say, black history? do you consider that cancel culture? show of hands. >> yes. >> what it looks like don't say gay. how about don't say gay? >> that was not the name of the law, actually. >> i know. >> that was the intangible lay. >> don't say gay i don't know where that comes from. it's not in a bill. i read the bill. nowhere does it say don't say gay. >> it's allowing parents to sue the schools. >> so using homosexual and sexual orientation, hundreds of millions of americans have looked at the bill in florida, the don't say gay bill and sit there and say something like i'm
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sorry, as stupid as it doesn't even say the word gay. that is dishonest. >> there is nothing about the word gay. it's being called the don't say sex. don't talk about sex bill. >> it's not about don't talk about sex. >> it's not about sex. >> primary grades. it's about not teaching that people of different sexual orientations and gender identities exist. that is the bill. that is the entire 100% point of the bill. >> one of the ways they describe it is between kindergarten and third grade. okay? so can you respond, chris, to that? is that appropriate that they're not going to teach sexual orientation or gender identity in kindergarten through third grade? i know the bill is vague. in terms of that age range, is that something that we should be comfortable with or not? >> until you define these terms, we will never agree. do i want my third grader to know people with different families like ours, like this?
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absolutely. there is no reason not to. kindergarten through third grade -- >> i agree with you. >> see, but you say that. this bill stops that. you say that but this bill is removing that conversation and in my school, in my county, if this same bill was in effect, my children would not be able to do school projects about their family because i happen to be transgender. they won't be able to read books they like to read because some characters are gay. that is exactly the intent of these bills so that is the disingenuous part. the bill is so vague and i'm sorry to get upset but this is just -- this never ends. it's books in school libraries. nobody is trying to sexualize kids, nobody. it's not happening. >> do you accept that, that nobody is sexualizing kids in public schools, that's not happening? >> i don't know if i necessarily agree with that. i do agree with what was just
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said about it -- my son i believe has a homosexual teacher and yeah, valentine's day, hey, what did you do for valentine's day, she wouldn't be allowed to say it according to the bill from what i read and that's part of the bill i do not agree with but the other parts of the bill when it comes to the sexualizing, absolutely i do agree with it. >> it's already a crime for an adult to have inappropriate sexual conversations with a child. it's been a crime. >> it is so clear on what the foundation of that bill is. you know, it's okay to - - for me h heterosexual teacher to say this is my husband and wife and kids. we want kids to believe the only way to love people or be in a relationship is bein a hetero relationship and that is sad. that is absolutely sad. >> i mean, my daughter has a
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friend in her class with two moms and so they should be able to speak freely about that and learn about all the different kinds of family dynamics and twist it however you want, that's the target. these are hateful bills. and it's not doing anybody any good. this legislation needs to stop. >> yes, the bills that are happening in places like texas and florida and utah and tennessee happen in their states. i am literally not allowed legally in the state of tennessee because of this so-called drag bill because it prohibits people who dress different than the biological sex. this is real. this is affecting our lives. there are transgender americans and transgender children who are fleeing states. my family has an escape plan. it's not -- it's not a joke. most people have never had a conversation with a transgender person and yet, more than half the legislating on it. >> i don't think that anyone has
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any business deciding for anyone about their bodies, their sexual orien orientation. how they live. it just needs to, i think, i wish it would just stop. >> what we could have in america, we should have in america, the greatest schools available to anyone anywhere and let's move forward from that and not cast as ppersions on other people and say they hate people. this is the most generous loving country on god's green earth. >> i think i'm more scenical on this peiece. i live it. every single decision affects my life and my family's life every day. i don't think there is a true solution. >> take ownership and responsibility for yourself, your family and your children. if you depend on desantis or the white house or whoever your elected leaders are, you're going to keep being upset yelling at the tv. take responsibility.
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take ownership. >> you know, i agree to the extent that look, your vote matters. voting matters. and, you know, for those at home and feel that this culture war is a real thing, make sure you're at the polls to vote because voting does make a difference. >> all right. our panel wants to respond to everything they have just heard. who should decide what topics are allowed in schools and which are taboo? that's next. want your clothes to smell freshly washed all day without heavy perfumes?
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all right. you just heard from our voter panel on who should decide if gender issues are discussed on school. no one on the panel regardless of where they are poll itically thought it should be the governor.
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the governor put forward a new bill this week focussing on what is allowed to be taught at state colleges. back with me, we have frank, patrick, emma. i thought that was fascinating, guys, none of them regardless of where they stood thought the governor should decide on curriculum but governor desantis made this his brand. he's decided he's expanding his control over curriculum and wants to ban gender studies now at florida colleges. so nowhere between kindergarten and senior year in college. will you be able to discuss this stuff if he has his way, frank? >> well, this is good for him in a republican primary and numbers are gaining and gaining and trumps are falling and falling. desantis, i believe, with an agenda like this could be the front runner within the next 100 days or so but you ask the american people again and again what matters most when we include issues. we include diversity, equity and incl
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inclusion. they tell us almost unanimously, it's the quality of education that matters and if you don't get the quality right, if you don't teach peaople how to read and add and subject and balance a bank account, your failing students. we have to get priorities right and we're getting them wrong. >> this panel said they all felt woke, however you want to define it is getting too much emphasis over reading and writing arrhythmia tick. >> let's go back to what woke is. caring for a sector of society marginalized in the past and being socially thoughtful about what should happen in the future. when it comes to the governor of any state being involved in what the curriculum is absurd. my kids go to public school in new york and look to the department of education and trust the people that are educators to teach my kids what they're supposed to be learning in school. to frank's point, the most important thing is learn how to
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read and write and skills. at the same time, let people be whomever they want to be. the idea these people feel marginalized because of their sexual orientation is just the most absurd thing -- >> not that they're feeling marginalized but that people are -- >> people are wanting to marginalize it. >> let parents decide in the end you'll lose an election as terry did in virginia if you say we should put some sort of barrier to keep parents from making that decision or keep parents away from school boards and cost them the election. >> emma? >> i also want to talk how challenging this is for young people because they're experiencing on the one hand a real opening up of culture and of social norms. they have a lot more language to talk about gender fluidity. 18% of gender identity, on the other hand, they're being confronted with a political backlash. there is 150 bills across 25
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states trying to regulate the behavior of transgender people and gender identity conversations. so there is a real whiplash for young people and i think that's an impossibly challenging situation to be in. >> can i ask you a question. what percentage of americans are transgender? >> i had to look it up, too. all i could find, i found two sources, 1%. >> so why are we spending so much time on 1% and not the same on the other 99%? i don't understand that. >> because you said -- >> that's for governor desantis. >> that's a great question for governor desantis. i can tell you that lgbtq plus youth contemplate suicide two to three times more than their counterparts. people are dying. people are thinking about killing themselves. people's way of life are being erased because of what people like governor desantis are doing. i'd love to have a -- i guess a more extended conversation about what happened in virginia. i was in congress at the time
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and there was a lot going on and frustration the biden agenda wasn't being implemented quickly and debate over infrastructure and build back better. when you did the polling of parents, they cared less than older people watching fox news about certain topics being taught in schools and people that didn't have school aged children. i don't want to read too much into what was happening. >> it was so memorable and -- >> sure, that one line -- >> one line he gave chain ever ch -- changed that entire election. if he was asked if he acknowledged it, he should take it back. >> parents believe they would be involved if not equipped. they want to feel as though they're involved. >> when do you see parenting getting involved of what their kids are being taught? >> good point. >> let's be honest about it. >> let's be intellectually honest. what covid did because it destroyed the education system in this country but what it
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actually did was students were at home in the kitchen, parents were listening to what their kids were being taught and freaked out for the first time ever, moms and dads across the country realized what their children were learning and outraged by it. it's why you see it in places like san francisco. people voting against school boards because they're so frustrated their kids aren't doing critical thinking, aren't learning problem solving, aren't learning conflict resolution. >> civil discourse for sure. by the way, i want to say that i don't know how many transgender people there are in the country but when i tried to look it up, that is the statistic that i saw. i don't want anybody to think there was a deep dive research. i think because it's so new and to your point, not that the phenomenon is new but the conversation we're having, it's very possible that there aren't actual hard numbers and statistics on this yet. but finally, to your point, people have a language to talk about it. so that's why it feels as though
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there is this sort of sudden blossoming of all this because now we talk about it openly. i remember, you know, 25 years ago we used to say a man trapped in a woman's body. that's what we called it. a man trapped in a woman's body or a woman trapped in a man's body. it existed. i had friends that felt that way but our new language is new and i don't think we know yet -- >> here is my recommendation, listen to your kids because my girls come home from school and go, i said do you have a boyfriend or what is going on? dad, everybody is bi. they're like my teenage daughters -- i'm just like -- i'm trying to digest that for a second. >> you will scare the living hell out of people watching. >> been there done that. >> okay. you got it under control. okay. >> i understand. i know. it's a totally brave new world. >> what the hell is going on at the house. that's what people are asking about there? >> i hope we remember -- the
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truth is the number is actually quite small in percentage-wise but i just hope that we remember these are real people. >> of course. >> being used as political footballs. i grew up closeted. you know, wondering if there was a place for me in this world, not seeing a certain future for myself and it was because of politicians like ron desantis that gave me the kind of emotional trama that i experienced growing up and that's still today too many young lgbtq people experience. >> that's not fair to the governor. he is responding to tens of -- hundreds of thousands of parents who are concerned -- >> is he? or is he ginning it up and they are picking up on what he said. >> yeah, he's the one that put this on the political radar. he's leading this and other people are following him. >> he's spoken up about it more than anyone but again, parents if you ask them, want the focus on the core issues and these talents and skills that we need for the future.
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>> of course. >> they don't want to focus on the 1%. they want to focus -- >> but they also don't want it to be banned. i totally hear you. i agree. they also want you to be able to ask your teacher as he said how -- >> the schools are making it the focus. desantis is making it the focus. >> that's right. parents want children to be taught about the world as it exists. it's a disservice educationally to not teach about certain subjects and there is nothing unfair about that. >> people want their kids to be kind and civil and respectful. >> let's leave it there because we have a lot more to talk about. >> just like we are. >> civil discourse. everyone stick around because we want to ask you, what's your age in your head versus how old you really are? what do you think you are in terms of how old but it's totally different than your biological age. we'll dig into those numbers, next. touch, sigight, sound,
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i am, i am. here's an interesting question, how old are you in your own head? that's the subject of a great article in "the atlantic" this week about subjective age back with frank luntz, patrick mcenroe, mondaire jones and emma -- >> i'm 30. >> you're sticking there? >> i'm still not excited about necessarily going out on the weekends and being social past a certain time like i'm very happy to stay at home and watch netflix. >> maybe you are 35 in that case. >> no, but i also feel like i could if i wanted to and, you know, i'll stay out until maybe 11:00 or midnight but after that i've done this before. i've gotten that out of my system. >> emma, how old are you really.
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>> i'm 28. >> how old are you in your head. >> i'm forever 21 embracing free spirit. i have people talk about manifesting so i'm manifesting being just early 20s forever. >> i like even if you're in your 0s you're still younger. it's a phenomenon for everybody. i'm 37. not only am i forever 37, i've lied about my age so much that i forget how old i am like i've tricked myself into not knowing. i used to lie when i was younger, now i always lie i'm younger. i don't know how old i am. >> alex murdaugh, right? >> i'm a lot like alex murdaugh, thank you. >> i'll jump in. i can't wait to hear frank. i'll save the best for last. how old are you really. >> 56. >> how old do you think you are? >> i think i just got out of college. >> you're that young. >> that's how i feel because i always want to do something new. my body, of course, that's a former tennis player, not feeling like i'm 22 but
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somewhere deep there in the bows of my mind i just got out of college. >> frank? >> in my head, i'm 80. >> nobody is older in their head. >> i'm 20 -- i had a birthday yesterday. >> you did. happy birthday. >> thank you. it was very hard getting out of bed. it was very hard walking to the shower. it was just a pain in the ass. >> so you're an old man trapped in a middle age man's body. >> i used to be so much younger than i was and something happened around age 50 and just fi flipped to the other side. it's hard because i want to be responsive, this is good so i can acknowledge one thing, i am more tired now than i've ever been. i don't know what it means to stay up to midnight. lucky i can make it to 8:00 p.m. i used to have five meals a day. that's why i wear this vest and it's a struggle. it generally is a struggle and i say to people who are depending on me, i'm sorry but in the last
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few years it has been tough, forgive me. >> frank, thank you for saying all of that. >> thanks for being honest. >> by the way you're almost up at 11:00 p.m. on the east coast. >> there is hope for you. you can do it. >> we'll be right back. per emp, even if it received ppp, and all it takes is eight minutes to get started. then we'll work with youou to fill out your forms and submit the application; that easy. and if your business doesn't get paid, we don't get paid. getrefunds.com has helped businesses like yours claim over $2 billion but it's only available for a limited time. go to getrefunds.com, powered by innovation refunds. [sniff] ew. gotta get rid of this. ♪tell me why!♪ because it stinks. ♪have you tried♪ ♪nedowny rinse and refresh?♪ itelps remove odors 3x better than detgent alone it worked guys! ♪yeahhhh!♪ new downy rinse and refresh [dramatic music] [radio chatter]
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