good evening, we begin with the alex murdaugh double murder trial. being at the scene of his wife and son's slaughter before they were slaughtered does not make him a killer. that's what it boils down to. he is accused of telling a string of lies. he spent another day today under tough questioning. >> alex, did you murder maggie? >> i would never hurt maggie.

>> did you murder paul? >> i would never hurt paul. >> court adjourned late today capping a stunning week by my measure. so what was it like in court today? >> well anderson, this was the first time we got to see the prosecutor question alex murdaugh about the night of the murders. he asked him what time he got to the kennels where the murder took place. and he asked them these questions repeatedly presumably to try to trip him up. but he kept coming back to the same theme. don't believe what alex murdaugh tells you. >> i have lied well over a decade. >> reporter: that is what he was trying to propose on the stand. >> i told a lie about being down there and got myself wed

to that. >> reporter: waters tried to box murdaugh into a corner using cell phone data and time line evidence from the night of the murders. >> i'm still not absolutely certain how they ended up at the kennel. >> reporter: murdaugh told the jury he drove his golf cart to meet his wife and son at the kennels. he said that was just before paul murdaugh recorded this kennel video. murdaugh could be heard talking in the background. murdaugh estimated it is about a two-minute drive on the golf cart putting him there at 8:49 p.m. the same time prosecutors said maggie and paul's phones ceased all activity suggesting they were dead. once back at the house. >> you laid down on the couch? >> direct. >> reporter: keep in mind, murdaugh's phone showed no activity from 8:09 to 9:02. he says he left it at the house when he went down to the

cannels. >> you agree that your phone comes to life and starts showing a lot of steps. far more steps in a shorter time period than any time prior as you have seen from the testimony in this case. so what were you so busy doing? going to the bathroom? >> no. i didn't get on the treadmill. >> jog in place? >> no. i didn't jog in place. what i wasn't doing is doing anything as i believe you have implied i was washing off guns, putting guns in the raincoat. i can promise you i wasn't doing any of that. >> reporter: along with steps murdaugh took, data presented in court shows he made a flurry of phone calls. >> finally having your phone in your hand, moving around, making all these phone calls to manufacture an alibi. is that not true? >> absolutely incorrect. >> reporter: meanwhile, murdaugh's attempt to show he had been trying to cooperate

with investigators backfired. >> other than lying to them about going to the kennel, i was cooperative in every aspect of this investigation. >> maybe the most important fact of all, you were at the murder scene with the victims were they died. >> reporter: the prosecutor did his best to make sure the jury knows now one other than alex murdaugh could have killed his son. >> you are telling the jury it is a random vigilante who happened to know they would be at the kennels alone on june 7th and knew that you would not be there, but only between the times of 8:49 and 9:02. >> you got a lot of factor ins there mr. waters. all of which i do not agree with. but some of which i do. >> it seemed effective laying out all the things essentially

that alex murdaugh is claiming about people that would have had to have happened in the killing of his wife and son. >> reporter: absolutely. something else more effective, anderson, is when the prosecutor asked him about the behavior of the dogs at the kennels. several of the family dogs were there. were they barking or acting strangely if they could sense someone else might be there? alex murdaugh said they were not doing any of that. he said there was no one else there for those dogs to sense. these are hunting dogs, anderson, we know how dogs' noses work. he was telling the prosecutor i was the only one there with my family. >> randi kaye, appreciate it. professor jessica roth and mark eichlar are here with me. it is such a fascinating end of his testimony so far. what do you make of what he said. how did he do?

>> i thought there were some points he made. he was fairly persuasive talking about how much he loved his wife and son. would he really do this? would he actually kill his wife and son? so when ever he talked about loving them, i thought that was fairly effective and i thought he effectively put before the jury and redirected the very end that he was facing charges for the fraud crimes that he had just admitted to. and so, what that allows the your to talk about in the jury room is look, if we don't convict him of murder, he is probably going to be convicted of all these financial crimes so he will be held accountable. >> so you think it might make the jury feel like well, there is reasonable doubt and we don't feel so bad about not convicting him because he will serve time. >> it is possible that if one juror has reasonable doubt. >> they questioned the number of steps murdaugh took when he was preparing to go to his mom's house. how do you think the prosecutor

actually dead? >> i think he was effective at times. it is kind of misleading when you play the clips you played but what they don't know is between all those great moments was fat. like a fatty steak. i like a lean filet mignon. on a cross-examination. you hit the high points and carefully craft every question you will ask that question. you get in and you get out. i think that murdaugh is now smiling. he is happier than five guys on a ski trip because he knows that while the prosecutor approached his jugular, he just squeezed it and never made it clear for the jurors 100% that this guy is void of credibility. >> it is still circumstantial. >> it is a big problem for the prosecution. but i think the prosecutor was effective in narrowing the time line showing how implausible it is. >> when he ticks off all the things that would have had to

have happened, it doesn't really make any sense. >> right. it is a very narrow time frame now that the defendant has admitted that was him at the kennels. he talked about the dogs not barking which reminded me of the famous sherlock holmes story. the motion that somebody would have shown up at exactly the right window when murdaugh himself would have left unarmed, knowing there would be guns available. driven out the way he did and left the wife's phone in that route. it does seem really implausible. on the other hand, right, is there possible reasonable doubt there given that it is a circumstantial case? >> do you think the idea of just because somebody, the fact that he has lied so repeatedly and so effectively for decades. he said he wouldn't do anything to hurt his wife and son. he has been a drug addict

around his wife and son in the home hiding pills doing things which hurt them. they knew about this. >> yeah. lying is part of addiction. this guy becomes really good at it. understand, he convinced numerous agents on the scene i wasn't there. i wasn't there. i have an alibi. he didn't know his voice was on that video. and all of a sudden when it was played in court and they identified him as the guy, there in the house, he is like okay, you got me. i was at the scene, but i'm a drug addict and i'm super paranoid. if that's not driven home by these prosecutors, they are missing a huge opportunity. clearly he is showing consciousness of guilt. that is why he said what he said. >> he said he believes that the killing is linked to a bothing

accident that husband son had in which his son was likely drunk and driving the boat and a person was killed. one of his son's friends was killed. do you think that seems plausible to people? he claimed there were vile social media posts. it is a big jump from a vile social media post to murder. >> that's what i have been thinking about. there's been no evidence toward paul or anybody in the family. and so, the leap from if somebody posting something hateful on social media to showing up in this narrow window with all of these sort of implausible factors going their way. to do a double homicide not of of paul but his mother? it seemed like a very big leap for the jury to make with no evidence that would provide the connections. >> mark, you said the putting the defendant on the stand is ultimately an act of desperation. it is something the defense attorneys think very hard about doing in a case like this. do you think it was the right

call today? >> in this particular case, it was. i have been practicing for 30 years in spite of my extraordinarily youthful appearance and i have put on maybe two or three defendants. i don't like to put them on because i can't control what they are going to say. you never know how they are going to do. but he had to do it. he had to explain, my goodness, that's my voice on that video i. puts me at the scene. there are too many things he had to explain. and ultimately, i think he did well under the circumstances because the prosecutor missed too many moments. it only takes one, anderson. if he connects with one juror, he avoids a conviction. they will retry him. but a victory would be a hung jury where they don't agree to an unanimous decision. >> mark, i appreciate it. jessica, thanks so much. coming up next, what a former fbi criminal profilers sees with murdaugh's testimony. and a prediction from

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we is have been talking about alex murdaugh's stunning time on the witness stand defending his innocence in the slaughter of his wife and son. >> i can promise you i would hurt myself before i would hurt one of them. without a doubt. >> joining us now to talk about

mr. murdaugh's performance on the stand, former fbi criminal profiler mary ellen o'toole. did you buy what he was selling on the stand? >> well, i think it is important that if at least one jury, one juror member buys his performance, that's what will really be critical. and i did think he did quite a good job of maintaining his composure throughout the entire day. and in spite of how the prosecutor was coming across, pretty aggressive way, he was talking issues he had in his life. if one juror listens to those issues and said i have a son who has those same issues. i know what it's like to be a drug addict. i know what it's like to be very suspicious of law enforcement. and to be a constant liar. so all that has to happen is one person on that jury relates to him in what his life

experiences have been in combination with a few other things as well like the csi effect which is huge in a case like this. >> people this there would be more evidence than there is actually because it is largely circumstantial. >> i think so. and we see it time after time with csi. people watch tv shows and they want the dna and the fingerprints and they want everything laid out in a clear package. but that often is not the case. in this case it's not the case. to expect the juror. the one juror to make that leap from a drug addict to a serial liar to a double murder, that's a huge leap to ask people to make. especially in light of an alternative motive which is social media and people while it may be a long shot, people do know how devastating social media can be. one person puts that together and really relate to how he

came across. that person can cause some problems. >> it's interesting. maybe i'm showing a bias here. this is a person who has lied -- decades and has ripped off pop families in this county. in the county where he has lived and been treated as royalty his entire life. in his aw shucks i would never do anything to hurt anyone, he has lied to people and stolen their life savings for them for decades and livered off of it. i guess, i don't know, you think jurors can separate something being a serial liar from being a murder? >> i do think there are people that could do that. people can be extremely forgiving by someone that seems to be repentant about their past. that may not be the make up of all the people on this jury, but all they need is to have one person that really relates to that. that has a very forgiving

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a year into russia's invasion of his country, ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy said they could win this year if his allies remain united by a fist. president biden met with him and members of the g7. more now from cnn chief international anchor christiane amanpour who was at the press conference with zelenskyy. >> what did you ask president zelenskyy? >> reporter: well, i asked him about the time line. because even though the friends of ukraine led by the united

states have sent huge number of weapons as we all know, it is a speed game now. it is a question of hurrying up. which is what zelenskyy said. i was trying to figure out whether he thought either the u.s. and its allies would have more staying power or russia which believes it can wait out the united states. mr. president, i'm interested in the time line. today on the anniversary, you spoke to your own forces and you called for victory within this year. you have heard the western friends, your partners talk about as long as it takes. you know the russian leader believes the time is on his side. why do you think it is possible by the end of the year and how do you assess the meaning of as long as it takes? from your ukrainian perspective? >> thank you for the question. i want to very much. if each of us, each partner and

we in our country, if we stay as one fist, one strong fist and work toward victory, this is a victory of values. if they stick to their words, to their terms, and it is not just blah, blah, blah, i believe in it. we have been partners, strong partners. and there is evidence to that. if we all do our important homework, victory will be inevitable. i'm certain there will be victory. >> reporter: anderson, there are an increasing number of people not only in ukraine but in the united states, military experts who say what ukraine needs is all the long range, all the aircraft and attack helicopters and obviously ammunition that they need in order to be able to much more rapidly conduct counteroffensives and if negotiation is the end game, then they must be able to give quickly to a place on the

battlefield that they can actually negotiate from a position of strength. >> what is the level of concern among ukrainian officials tonight about russia's increasing alignment with china? in particular, the idea that china might supply drones, ammunition for use in the war? >> reporter: well, president zelenskyy addressed that in his presser and i asked the deputy foreign minister myself. and they are not happy. they are not speaking out against china because they are trying to maintain this notion that china is neutral. but indeed, of course, if china does get involved in the way that you just mentioned, it would according to the u.s. defense secretary prolong the war. that's for absolute sure and it raises the stakes of course. >> appreciate it. thank you. more now on how the biden administration sees the possibility of china supplying lethal raid to russia. i spoke with john kirby.

>> admiral kirby, if u.s. intelligence confirms the transaction like that has taken place, what kind of action is possible? if any? >> well i don't want to get ahead of where we are right now, we have indications they are canning that kind of assistance, and they haven't taken it off the table. but they have not acted on that. and we are watching this as closely as we can. you heard secretary of state antony blinken talk about how he has relayed our concerns to directly to his counterpart in beijing. and there would certainly be ramifications should they move in that direction. but i want to stress, we haven't seen any indication they have made that kind of decision. >> there is reporting that it would be kamikaze drones in particular, giving components to russia that they could then build their own certain number every month. if this was done through chinese companies, as opposed to directly by the chinese government, would that make a

difference to the u.s.? >> there is sometimes little distinction between chinese companies and the state. and i don't want to get ahead of where things are. the chinese military is very advanced. great capabilities. and certainly, should that occur, it would make an impact on the war in ukraine. and we don't believe it is in china's interest to want to be on that side of it. >> you said iran was seeking to purchase billions of dollars of military equipment from russia. in exchange, iran is sending russia artillery and tank rounds. so what is that level of cooperation between russia and iran, what does it mean not only for ukraine but for the middle east? >> that's exactly right. it is not just about the impact that those capabilities will have on russia's war in ukraine. it is about what iran wants in return. they want support from russia, militarily speaking and some of those systems i talked about attack helicopters as well. combat trainer aircraft. all of those could make the

iranian military more lethal, more capable and more destabilizing to our friends and partners in the middle east so it goes both ways. it is why when we saw this relationship start to advance, we put it out there publicly. >> do you have an assessment on how beneficial these drone haves been for russia? specifically the attack drones used against the power grid and other targets? >> several hundred of them. they struggled to learn the system. after they learned, they got more proficient, they absolutely were able to use them with a degree of lethality and accuracy. hitting civilian targets and infrastructure and doing so because they were slow and low. being able to evade air defense capabilities. they were not all successful, but some of them got through. there is no question about that. >> the chinese released this

proposal for peace between ukraine and russia. the russians responded saying they share beijing's views. is this anything that is meaningful at all? >> it is difficult to know exactly how far this will go. and it is also difficult to see china as an effective mediator here. between russia and ukraine particularly when they have not had any communication about the proposals. president biden has said nothing about ukraine without ukraine. for a peace proposal. for a negotiation. believe me, we would welcome a legitimate peace proposal. for one to be credible, it has to start from the foundation of ukraine being the victim here and russia being the aggressor and it has to start with the foundational belief in ukraine's sovereignty and their ability to have their country back. it has to start there. and there has not been any conversation between china and ukraine. nothing about ukraine without ukraine as far as we are

concerned. >> admiral john kirby. seth molton serves on the select committee on strategic competition between the u.s. and the chinese communist party. i spoke to him this evening. >> sources are telling cnn china is considering sending drones and ammunition to russia. admiral kirby said the biden administration is watching this closely. what is your level of concern? how could that change the dynamic of the war? >> look, my level of concern is high because we want this war to end. and china is going to prolong this war if they gave more aid to vladimir putin and russia and his illegal invasion. >> how effective do you think the drones have been providing to russia have been? >> i have have been effective. the ukrainians are not just

resilient, but innovative and they figure out ways to shoot them down. but the chinese are world leaders in drone technology. so obviously, these could be significant weapons on the battlefield. and just a few days ago, china was talking about how they are presenting a peace plan. china is not advocating for peace. they are aiding an invader. >> russia says this is a proxy war between the west and russia. how concerned are you that this could get framed as a proxy war between the west and russia and china? >> i think if china wants to join the russia iran club here, they will find an incredibly united western alliance. it will make their whole project to take over taiwan which xi jinping has talked about a lot much more difficult because they will realize that the west stands strong with the united states of america. and we stand strong based on our values. based on freedom. the rule of law. based on rules that china

itself has supported. remember the chinese foreign minister recently said that he supports the idea that sovereign nations have territorial integrity. that means that he supports the idea that ukraine should exist as a nation. so there is obviously some disagreement going on within china right now. and if the chinese communist party chooses to join forces with putin, they are putting themselves on the wrong side of the rule of law. and i think fundamentally, they are putting themselves on the wrong side of history. >> how important is ukraine to the u.s.? >> i know there are some very loud voices on the far right in congress who are expressing doubts about continued support for ukraine. let me tell you, the support for ukraine in congress is strong. it is bipartisan. i do think that some americans are asking legitimate questions. they are asking how much money

should we spend? how long should this go on? but by investing in ukraine today, we are investing in our national security in the future. not just ukraine. we are showing the world that we are not going to allow another ground war in europe. let's be clear. if putin goes further in ukraine, it could be to a nato country. that could cost american lives. the young american women and men would be fighting and dying and showing the rest of the world, including xi jinping that the western alliance will stay strong. stand together. and not allow auto cattic leaders to take over former cattic nations. >> thank you. coming up, unique view of the growing tensions with china. a chinese jet came to intercept. got so close, you can see the pilots, ahead.

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before the break, we were talking about the new u.s. intelligence that china. a

navy reconnaissance plane got the attention of a chinese jet unintentionally. this is a close encounter with a chinese war plane. filmed just off the wing of a u.s. navy reconnaissance plane flying over the south china sea. >> we are getting a closeup look at a chinese fighter jet. the two seater is armed with air to air missiles and it has been shadowing this u.s. navy plane now for about 15 minutes. it is pretty remarkable to see this chinese war plane operating at such close proximity. several hundred feet away from our aircraft. >> reporter: the chinese fighters escort part of a regular routine. >> i would say it is a regular afternoon in the south china

sea. >> reporter: the u.s. navy invited cnn to take off on the reconnaissance plane. picking up fuel from a flying gas station along the way. >> we are refueling in midair right now. flying just about 40 feet away from a kc135 tanker plane. >> reporter: the plane is headed past the self-governing island of taiwan which china claims has its own. to the south china sea, which china also claims almost all for itself. ignoring competing claims from countries like vietnam and the philippines. some 30 miles from the chinese occupied islands, a chinese voice crackles over the radio. >> american aircraft. you are approaching chinese air space. keep a safe distance. >> reporter: that's when the

chinese liberation army jet appears flying so close, you can see the pilots in their cockpit. >> i hold you on my left wing and i continue to proceed to the west. >> reporter: the chinese pie plot never responds but eventually leaves when the u.s. plane turns south. >> it is like oil spots as they build. as they build on one and another. >> reporter: commodore will torenson shows the manmade islands china built on what had been coral reefs claimed by other countries. >> our number one focus here is to ensure that we have continued access alongside all of our allies and partners to international air space. and waters. >> reporter: the u.s. presence aimed at preventing further encroachment by china. >> we are flying at a low altitude. a thousand feet. a little more than 300 meters

above sea level east of taiwan. looking for a chinese warp ship currently believed to be operating in these stormy waters. the plane spots a chinese guided missile destroyer. >> u.s. aircraft, keep safe distance away from me. over. >> i'm a united states military aircraft. >> reporter: a cat and mouse game between two rival militaries in one of the most hotly contested regions in the world. >> and, ivan joins us from okinawa, japan. it is fascinateing to see that jet so close. china has the world's largest navy and continues to build it don't they? >> reporter: they do. they have eclipsed the u.s. navy in size. the world's largest navy. they have about 340 ships

whereas the u.s. has about 300. this week, the u.s. navy secretary said that china has a significant advantage when it comes to shipbuilding. and that gap is expected to grow though there are plans to modernize the u.s. navy. now one thing, however that china is doing with its kind of aggressive actions in places like the south china sea is it is pushing smaller countries like the philippines which a couple of years ago was ready to end military relations with the u.s. to now try to expand it. philippines inviting u.s. forces to operate out of more philippines bases. japan recently announcing that it will dramatically expand its defense expenditures. and the u.s. is partnering up with countries like australia and the u.k. to build nuclear submarines. all of this is aimed at basically force projection. and trying to convince beijing

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the judge presiding over the special georgia grand jury investigating attempts to overturn the election has clarified the rules about what can and can't be said about the process by members of the grand jury. he did this because of the highly unusual media tour put on by the foreperson. >> reporter: did you recommend

charges against donald trump? >> i really don't want to share something that the judge made a conscious decision not to share. i will tell you it was a process where we heard his name a lot. we definitely heard a lot about former president trump and we definitely discussed him a lot in the room and i'll say that when this list comes out, you wouldn't -- there are no major plot twists waiting for you. >> cnn political correspondent sara murray spoke with the judge. what did the judge tell you about the foreperson who spoke out earlier this week? >> reporter: he really elaborated on the biden principles, what he told the special grand jurors they are to share. he made it clear what they are allowed to put in the final

report. so even if emily koors came out explicitly and said, she would have been within the bounds of what she was able to share. what she's not allowed to share is any deliberations. we asked him do you think emily koors may have violated these rules and he said, "it's not for me to assess." i think people are thrown because these secrecy rules for this special grand jury in georgia are obviously very different from what we are used to seeing from federal grand juries. >> how are the former president's attorneys reacting to all this? >> they've basically slammed emily koors' media tore this week and said it undermines the seriousness of the investigation conducted by the special grand jury and said whatever conclusions were drawn were not the risk of an analytical, trustworthy or credible investigation. when we spoke to judge mcburney

about what he felt about the process, he said felt the grand jury complied with all the rules and essentially upheld the charter of their mandate. >> appreciate. it thanks. perspective from cnn legal analyst and former deputy assistant attorney general elliot williams. what do you make of what the judge told sara murray today? >> two things can be true, that she followed the judge's directions, that it was perfectly permissible everything she said and not specifically disclosing deliberations. that can be true, but it can also be true it was a really bad idea to go out and speak publicly about the process in this way and the risks both practical and legal to being out in public, speaking about what sort of went on behind the scenes of the special grand jury is a really, really bad idea. >> when the judge was asked regarding the foreperson's media interviews, she said it's not for him to assess i guess the appropriateness of it even though he was saying it didn't violate any of the rules, what

do you think -- i mean obviously it was very odd to see at times. what's the harm done, do you think? >> okay. there's a few harms done. number one, you've already seen with the former president's attorneys saying the process itself isn't fair because it was a bit of a kangaroo court where these people went in wanting to indict the former president from the moment they went in there. so it casts sort of a bit of doubt on the impartiality and fairness of the process. the other thing is there's a really big risk of just some evidence or some information that they heard or was presented to them leaking out and that, number one, runs the risk of jeopardizing the privacy of people who haven't been charged with crimes or, two, literally spooking potential witnesses or even defendants and just hopping on a plane and flying to switzerland in advance of getting charged. you keep your mouth shut when you're a grand juror, even recognizing people have a right to speak. we ought to embrace that, but

the risks to the process are just too great. >> it does undermine public confidence potentially in the process. >> absolutely. and i think it almost starts feeling like it's a bit of a game or that reality tv where you're teasing this exciting big thing is going to happen when the way the process out to work is people come in, behave in an impartial manner and either recommend charges or not, but this whole idea of you won't be surprised with what comes out, it just makes the whole thing smell kind of fishy. >> can the former president's legal team use the foreperson's media appearances to their advantage in some way? >> yeah. they can use them to their advantage and certainly move to dismiss any indictments. to be clear, nothing she said really crossed the line. this is judge mcburney's point. nothing really crossed the line into imperilling the integrity of the investigation. this is all about the appearance of fairness and impartiality and you really don't want to start off what could, frankly, be the trial of

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tonight a rare phenomenon in the west, snow, rain and high winds prompted blizzard warnings in southern california, up to five feet of possible in some areas. for the first time ever, the san diego national weather service issued a blizzard warning for the san bernadino county mountains saying they could get three to five feet of snow through saturday morning. this comes as both record breaking cold and heat spreads across the nation. harry inton joins us now with the latest. i did not know you were a weather enthusiast? >> i went to penn state weather camp back in the mid- 2000s. they would be so jealous of me right now. i've fulfilled the dream of becoming a weatherman on national television, guys. i did it, yes! >> how many kids went to weather camp with you? >> at least 20 to 25 in that

class. we watched "twister" and visited the national weather service. >> you watched the movie? >> yes. i put a video online forecasting. >> do you all like mobile satellite and uplink units on your helmets? >> sure. we were measuring the atmosphere for the national weather service. we were kind of guinea pigs. >> this winter the storm on the west coast. >> tremendous stuff. it's the first time ever the san diego national had weather service office issued blizzard warnings. san francisco saw its coldest ever february 23rd yesterday. the record low this morning for february 24th as well. go up to portland, right? what we saw was the second highest daily snowfall. so basically there's all the stuff, oh, there was snow in the hollywood hills and there was some grapple that was right around the hollywood sign, which was pretty school. grapple is snow that melts on the way down but not all the way and kind of merges together. it's not sleet and not hail. >> look at you with your

grapple. >> we're having a grapple of a great time. >> 55 years old, how come i've never heard of grapple before? >> maybe you're not as much into weather as you should be. we should get you some water there. >> there's also been abnormal temperatures on the east coast. >> correct. basically one of the big reasons we have those big snows on the west coast and midwest is temperature differences create big differences in pressure and big snowfalls. look at this record heat in the southeast that we got up to akron, temperatures in the 80s in places like washington, d.c., charlotte, savannah, akron in the 70s. it was much more like late spring or early summer than say the middle of february. >> what about new york? >> this is the great failure of this season for me. i love snow. snow is the reason i went to weather camp. i wanted to forecast snow days. >> that was going to be my next question. >> i love snow. i love the idea of getting snow. >> was weather camp in the summer? >> it was in