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great time. >> 55 years old, how come i've never heard of grapple before? >> maybe you're not as much into weather as you should be. we should get you some water there. >> there's also been abnormal temperatures on the east coast. >> correct. basically one of the big reasons we have those big snows on the west coast and midwest is temperature differences create big differences in pressure and big snowfalls. look at this record heat in the southeast that we got up to akron, temperatures in the 80s in places like washington, d.c., charlotte, savannah, akron in the 70s. it was much more like late spring or early summer than say the middle of february. >> what about new york? >> this is the great failure of this season for me. i love snow. snow is the reason i went to weather camp. i wanted to forecast snow days. >> that was going to be my next question. >> i love snow. i love the idea of getting snow. >> was weather camp in the summer? >> it was in the summer.
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we still got ice cream, so we kind of recreated. >> you could do it any season. >> i did have to go to school, so that was a slight problem. in new york this season we've had the least amount of snowfall through this point and the second warmest winter on record through this point. this has been horrific for me. i've hated every single minute, but we've had a good time this evening. >> i want to hear more about snow camp in the break. the cnn special report rising hate anti-semitism in america starts now. >> good evening, everyone. we've got something special for you. country star brad paisley is it here live for us with a brand- new song honoring the people of ukraine and the song includes an unexpected guest. ♪ however you talk however you think from the songs that you
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sing to the drinks that you drink. ♪. >> we're fighting for our parents to defend our houses and families. ♪ and love each other like crazy. ♪. >> i'm guessing you recognize that voice, but if not, brad paisley will tell us who that is in a moment. plus a dramatic day in the alex murdaugh trial, how will the jury respond to the defendant who admits he's lied to everyone for years? >> you lied to maggie, didn't you? >> i did lie to maggie. >> you lied to paul? >> sometimes. i would have lied to randy at some point, i'm sure. >> did you lie to him about the last time you saw your wife and son alive? >> i did. >> we'll bring you up to speed on that trial. also part two of our voter panel. i sit down with six parents from around the country to talk about gender issues and who should decide how those are
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discussed in schools. how many of you believe the governor should be making decisions about curriculum in that state's public schools, any state? show of hands. so is nobody raising their hands that a governor should be making decisions? >> the governor is not qualified. that's not what governors are -- >> absolutely not, absolutely not. >> okay. so our panel has a lot to talk about tonight and they are standing by, as you can see, but first we want to bring in country music star brad paisley to talk about his new song called "same here." brad, great to see you. >> it's great to see you guys. thanks a lot for wanting to talk to me. >> we played a little snippet of your new song. i'll do the big reveal, that was president zelenskyy in your song. it's not every day that president zelenskyy is in a country song. how did that come to pass? >> well, i guess it was last summer we did a fundraiser for ukraine on nbc with a bunch of
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celebrities and singers and actors. you know, they were looking for an original song and when corporations get involved trying to write something for an event, it doesn't really work because the next thing you know, there's all these legal issues. so the song got scrapped, but i had already written there and in the process they heard it and one thing led to another and president zelenskyy is very smart about how to reach people. he saw this as an opportunity i think to go straight for the heart and basically say through a melody and a song that we're all the same and that was the point i was trying to make is that these people fighting for freedom and showing us in so many ways what it looks like to really crave the things that we take for granted over here a bit. yeah, i wanted to write something that kind of talked about the world's similarities and free people. >> you did that and you
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achieved it. in the process you had this zoom call with president zelenskyy. what did you two talk about? >> well, what we had done in the process since the show had been being worked on, i said, you know, i was thinking about putting a ukrainian singer at the end of this, but wouldn't it be even more impactful if president zelenskyy wanted to take the last couple minutes of the song and just talk about things and basically said anything you want to say. talk about how we're the same, the things that matter to a ukrainian that probably matter also to an american and the list was -- if it tells you anything about how similar we are, we talked for 45 minutes before we whittled down what went in the song. >> let's 11 to just a little portion of that. >> hi, brad. >> hello, mr. president.
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>> we speak different languages in our life, yes, but i think we appreciate the same things, children, freedom, our flag, our soldiers, our people. >> that's beautiful, brad. i mean that's it. so what was it like having him for 45 minutes and having that conversation? >> really surreal. i mean we're talking about somebody that i see as he's on the front line of democracy in the world and he was so generous with his, you know, his comments, but also his time and also his attention to wanting to be a part of something that reaches people with the message he wants to send and it all was, i guess, meant to be because this was the kind of thing i could sit here all night explaining it, but there's no explanation to how this happened. >> is it true that he also offered you some edits to the song? >> oh, yeah. actually the last verse was its
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own thing. it was a really -- it was similar to this, but there were a couple lines that were a little smaller in scale and he mentioned some things that would be great as far as the last lines of the song go and that's -- i didn't change them exactly to what he said, but i got close. i took his advice on that. definitely one of those stranger, you know, songwriter notes i've ever received. >> so from comedian to tv star, president, global leader during wartime, songwriter, yeah, wow. so, brad, are you thinking about going -- i know even before this i know that you have been trying to help the people in ukraine. you've been involved with helping the displaced, rebuilding houses. are you planning to go to
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ukraine? >> i'd love to. i mean i don't have any plans at this point, but i would love to when it's right, when the time is right and everything is safe enough and the kind of thing that it's not a bad move, i would like to do that, but i think that it's going to be -- i really would like -- it's one of the things we talked about. it would be really, really amazing to see these people i'm talking about firsthand over there. if i'm going to -- i need to put my money where my mouth is here. >> brad, what do you think americans get wrong about ukrainians or ukraine? >> probably a lot of things. anytime that we assume that they're different than us too drastic of a scale, i think we're on the wrong track as human beings. these things we talk about in the song, the first verse of the song is about california from the vantage point of me in tennessee.
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the second verse is about a wedding in mexico and seeing all of the same, exact emotions, even though i didn't understand a word of what was said and then we move on to across the sea to the hotspot of the world really and anytime we make assumptions that we're just different, we're on the wrong track. people want the same things and, you know, it's really inspiring to watch them as they are fighting for these things that we have already. >> yeah. the charity is called united 24. all the proceeds and royalties from your song will go to that charity. one of our panelists here is so moved by the song and listening to you that he just whispered to me that he will offer -- i'll let him say it if we can get frank luntz on camera one. he wants to make an offer to you, if that's possible, for $10,000. go ahead, frank. >> brad, you're a cultural icon and a treasure to this country. i know the things you've done
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already and i so appreciate this coming from a ukrainian background. all you have to do is say to me you'll share a cup of coffee because i want to thank you in person and i'll donate $10,000 to your charity tonight. what you've done is awesome and we need more americans like you to step up and be heard. thank god for you, brad. >> thank you. >> is that a yes or no, brad? >> that's an absolute yes. i'm buying the coffee. are you up in new york all the time or just there right now? >> i'm here now, but i'll go to wherever i have to go. >> i'll meet you in new york. there's great coffee. let's do it. >> deal. >> that means the world to me you would do that and all of the proceeds are going to go to build 4,200 houses for people basically because these folks have lost their homes and so we got to put a roof back over their heads. that's what my part of this united 24 charity's doing. thank you, frank. >> that's so wonderful. building bridges, building homes for people and you two
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creating this bridge here. brad, it's so great to talk to you. thanks so much for sharing the song with us. it's beautiful. >> thank you. >> the sentiment behind it is so powerful and we can't wait to check back in with you and see how it's doing. >> well, thank you and again, frank, i like cream in mine. >> you can have whatever you want. i'll even pay for the sugar. >> unbeknownst to you guys, i'm coming along. thanks so much, brad. we'll talk soon. >> thank you. we're here in studio with cnn legal analyst joey jackson, frank luntz and, frank, i'll start with you because that is really beautiful and important what he's doing and is particularly at a time where americans are reassessing how they feel about the involvement, contributing money to ukraine's war effort. >> actually they're not and one thing you should know is i did
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the same thing with your brother to have lunch with him. i wanted an hour. he gave me 2 1/2 hours. it was worth every dime. >> i'll give you three. i don't know if i can afford what my brother could, but that's okay. >> we are the same. 70% of americans want us to do exactly what we're doing or even more and only 28% want us to do less. the majority of republicans, independents, democrats, the vast majority want us engaged, involved and appreciate the investments because we see this is a crime against humanity. let us not mince words. either we hold the russians accountable now or we will have even worse consequences later. >> emma, how do you see it? >> i think that's absolutely right. we were hearing from both putin and zelenskyy this week there's a lot of months of battle ahead of us. i think when you look at the toll of what's going on, 8,000 lives at least of noncombatants lost in ukraine. there's been 8 million refugees flowing into europe. this is a humanitarian crisis
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that's costing lives. it's displacing millions of people and you're seeing this affecting oil prices, the economy. we're all touched by this. that's why i love initiatives like this song because it's reminding us this is closer to home than we might like to think. while a lot of people would probably rather look away from the images of the devastation, we have to appreciate how up close it is and how many lives this is up ending. >> i totally agree with you. music is the universal language. it resonates with everybody, any culture you're in. you understand the poignancy of music. >> this is why you let the musicians and artists write the songs. i loved what he said when he talked about not letting the corporations get involved in making the song. i think this is something we
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all really missed during the pandemic. when i went to new york to see my first live music in a small club and that brings people together and as frank said, brad paisley is it a legend in our culture and in the music business and to see the way he's doing so much good for the world and bringing people together with his music is just awesome. >> yeah. i think first from a musical perspective, it's so important, right? it brings us so much joy, togetherness, brings about so much emotion and connectivity. then you look at similarities. we want safety, security, opportunity, our families to be well and prosper, love, cheer. we just want to have happy lives and to see that being really taken away in such a horrific way is really hard to stomach. one other point, alisyn, it's all about the world order. ukraine certainly has connected with so many people just based
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upon their response, their resiliency. they're saying heck no, probably another word they used, but this is not going to happen. then you see it on a large world stage how the world has come together and to some degree how the world is endangered by what's happening now and how will the ending of this war really affect us all. we're not really far removed from that especially when we talk about ballistic missiles and that kind of thing. it's a really teachable and turning team in the world. >> the ending part, we know the consequences of november 9th, the day the berlin wall fell. we know the consequences of september 11th. >> that's right. >> of january 6th. i think this is the fourth great date, february 24th, because on this day we are put to the test. what will we do now? we saw what happened in the build-up to world war ii. the world just allowed the german effort to move forward
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further and further and did nothing. we see what happened when we let terrorism go unchallenged, unchecked and i know there's some republicans who want to stop the funding and a few democrats as well. the public says absolutely not. why is it that the american people have learned more from history than these extremist members on both sides of the aisle who say we're only focused on the money that we give to our country just for us? the fact is this is for us. this is for them. this is for the entire global community. you stop aggression or it will continue and it will overwhelm us all. >> we will talk about the politics of it coming up. thank you all for that. now here alex murdaugh, he testified for six hours today and was grilled about his alibi, his pill addiction, his lies to police and to his family. how will the jury react to all of his lying?
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that's what you get from the morgan stanley client experience. you get listening more than talking, and a personalized plan built on insights and innovative technology. you get grit, vision, and the creativity to guide you through a changing world. ♪ today alex murdaugh took the stand for six hours in his double murder trial. he admitted he lied to investigators repeatedly about his whereabouts but insisted he did not kill his wife and son. >> all right. let me ask you a question, then. what you're telling this jury is that it's a random vigilante, the 12-year-old that just happened to know that paul
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and maggie were both at mozelle on june 7th. they knew they would be alone at the kennels on june 7th and knew you would not be there but only the times between 8:49 and 9:02. they show up without a weapon and commit this crime during the short time window and travel the same exact route you do around the same time to alameda. that's what you're trying to tell this jury? >> you got a lot of factors in there, all of which i do not agree with, but some of which i do. >> back with me, joey jackson, patrick mcenroe, emma goldberg and mondare jones. it seems like the jury will have to suspend a lot of disbelief to believe that entire scenario. >> they very well may. this gives perspective to what they were doing as in the prosecution, talked about all those financial crimes, about how he ripped off every client,
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whether you're a paraplegic, a teenager, couldn't care less and lie at you and look at you in the eye when he did it and certainly the prosecution in their closing will say just as he looked at you and said he didn't do this, you can be as assured of his guilt. i think clearly they established he's a liar. the question is whether they established he's a murderer. you have to isolate the timeline. there's a lot of things he has to explain i think he did not to the level of satisfaction a jury might say you know what? perhaps you're not guilty. >> the timeline is pretty crazy. he was caught on cell phone audio at the kennels at 8:45 p.m. police believe his wife and son were shot at 8:49 and 9:02. where was he? >> he went back to the car, back to the main house. >> he didn't hear any gunshots? >> there are a lot of questions that to me weren't answered
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today. i mean let's state the obvious which is if there's one juror that is sympathetic and believes him, he's going to get off and apparently two of the people on the jury were crying at least yesterday during the trial. to me having looked at what this he and this family has done, the lineage in this family goes back to the early 1900s of them sort of dominating the prosecution in this part of south carolina. so just listening to this man, not having the knowledge that my friend next to me has about the legal business, i'm thinking to myself this guy is used to dare i say getting away with murder in his life. it just seemed like he figures he's going to find a way to get himself out of it because that's what he and his family seemingly have done for many, many years in this part of the country. >> rondare, no murder weapon. you're shaking your head. >> no dna evidence. i think the timeline is damning
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here. it's all circumstantial to your point, joey. how generous should we be to this guy in his recitation of his own experience that evening before concluding there's no way he didn't at least know who did this double murder? >> do you think the no murder weapon and no dna is enough to sway a jury? >> it could be, but to me personally, it's not that compelling. >> there are still shell casings and cartridges from this ar-style rifle that his family owned. he says that gun went missing, but it matches other shell casings on the property. that to me ties the family to the murder weapon. >> i think this is a watershed moment because he'd been silent for so long and i think people were waiting to see what would he say and the fact he got up there and kind of told on himself.
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he presented this image of someone living a double life, someone capable of misrepresenting his whereabouts the night of the killings, someone capable of lying repeatedly to cover up financial crimes. so just standing up there and revealing a very consistent pattern of dishonesty, that's hard to take in in the context of this entire story. >> i think it's also significant he took the stand in the first place. typically defendants do that as a last resort. they clearly thought this wasn't going the way they wanted it to. as a hail mary, the guy's going to take the stand. i don't think he acquitted himself well today. >> thank you all. stick around, everyone, because when we come back, one of our signature voter panels will tackle the culture war issue in our schools. what these parents across the political spectrum think of governor desantis' efforts to control curriculum.
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our panel is standing by to share their thoughts on this hot button topic in part two of our voter panel. we brought together parents from across the political spectrum to tackle the fraught topic of gender issues in school and if the governor of any state should be the decisionmaker on curriculum. how many of you believe the governor should be making
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decisions about curriculum in that state's public schools, any state? show of hands. so is nobody raising their hands that a governor should be making decisions? >> the governor is not qualified. that's not what governors are -- >> absolutely not, absolutely not. >> show of hands. how many of you are comfortable that governor desantis is weighing in in such a way in florida's curriculum in education, show of hands? none of you are. show of hands. is governor desantis canceling certain curriculum he doesn't like? is he engaging in cancel culture when he gets rid of these certain tenets of say black history? do you consider that cancel culture? show of hands. >> yes. it's what it looks like. don't say gay. how about don't say gay. >> that was not the name of the law actually. >> no. that's the intent of the law. >> what's don't say gay?
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it's not in any bill. i read the bill. nowhere does it say don't say gay. >> i did, too. it's allowing parents to sue the schools. >> oh, my god. they use the term home sexual and sexual identity and sexual orientation as stand-ins for gay. hundreds of millions of americans have looked at the bill in florida, the don't say gay bill, and you can sit there and say something as -- i'm sorry, but as stupid as it doesn't even say the word gay. that is dishonest. that is -- how can you not ever have a conversation. >> it's called the don't say sex. don't talk about sex bill or -- >> it's not about don't talk about sex. >> it's not about that. >> it's about not teaching that people of different sexual orientations and gender identities exist. that is the bill. that is the entire 100% point of the bill. >> one of the ways they describe it is between kindergarten and third grade, okay? can you respond, chris, to
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that? is that appropriate that they're not going to teach sexual orientation or gender identity in kindergarten through third grade? and i know the bill is vague, but in terms of that age range, is that something that we should be comfortable with or not? >> until you define these terms, we will never agree. i want my third grader to know that people with different families like ours, this absolutely, there's no reason not to. kindergarten through third graders. >> i agree with you. >> you say that. this bill stops that. this bill is about removing that conversation and in my school if this same bill was in effect, my children would not be able to do projects with their family because i happen to be transgender. they won't be able to read books they like to read because some of the characters happen to be gay. that is exactly the intent of these bills.
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so that is the disingenuous part. the bill is so vague. i'm starting to get upset. this never ends. it's books in the school library. now nobody is trying to sexualize kids, nobody. it's not happening. >> do you accept that, that nobody is sexualizing kids in public schools, that that's not happening? >> i don't know if i'd necessarily agree with that. i do agree with what was just said about my son, i believe, has a hoe homosexual teacher and if they said what did you do for valentine's day? she wouldn't be able to read it. that's the part i don't agree with, but the other part of the bill when it comes to sexualizing, i do agree with it. >> it's already a crime for an adult to have inappropriate conversations with a child. it's been a crime. >> it is so clear on what the foundation of that bill is, you
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know. it's okay for heterosexual teachers to say this is my spouse. this is my husband. this is my wife. these are my kids and nobody sexualizes that at all. we are trying to indoctrinate another generation of kids to believe that the only way to love people or to be in relationships is to be in a hetero normative relationship and that is sad. that is absolutely sad. >> i mean my daughter has a friend in her class with two moms and so they should be able to speak freely about that and learn about all the different kinds of family dynamics and twist it however you want. that is exactly the target. these are hateful bills and it's not doing anybody any good. this legislation needs to stop. >> yes. the bills that are happening in places like texas and florida and utah and tennessee happened in their states, i am literally not allowed legally in the state of tennessee because of this so-called drag bill
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because it prohibits people who dress different than their biological sex. this is real. this is affecting our lives. there are transgender americans and transgender children who are fleeing states. my family has an escape plan. it's not a joke. most people never had a conversation with a transgender person and yet there are more than half the voting in legislation on it. >> i don't think anyone has any business deciding for anyone about their bodies, their sexual orientation, how they live. it just needs to i think -- i wish it would just stop. >> what we should have in america, the greatest schools available to anyone anywhere and let's move forward from that and not cast aspersions on other people and say people are hail of. this is the most loving, generous, amazing country on god's green earth. >> i think i'm probably more cynical on this whole piece because i live it.
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i'm impacted by it. every single decision affects my life and my family's life every day. so i don't feel like there is a true solution. >> take ownership and responsibility for yourself, your family and your children. if you're going to depend on desantis or the white house or whoever your elected leaders are to make the change that you want, you'll keep being upset, yelling at the tv. take responsibility. take ownership. >> i agree to the extent that look, your vote matters. voting matters. for those that are at home and feel that this culture war is a real thing, make sure you're at the polls to vote because voting does make a difference. >> our panel wants to respond. who should decide which topics are allows in schools and which are taboo? that's next.
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we have a lot to talk about that next topic. you just heard from our voter panel who should decide gender decisions should be made, but governor ron desantis just put forth a new bill focusing this week on what is allowed to be taught at state colleges. i thought that was so fascinating, guys, that none of them regardless of where they stood thought that the governor should be deciding on curriculum, but governor desantis has made this his brand and now just this week he has decided that he is sort of expanding his control over curriculum. he wants to ban gender studies at florida colleges. so nowhere between kindergarten and senior year in college will you be able to discuss this stuff if he has his way, frank.
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>> this is good for him in a republican primary and his numbers are gaining and gaining and trump's are falling. desantis with an agenda like this could be the frontrunner in the next 100 days or so, but we've asked the american people what matters most to them and include these issues, include diversity, equity inclusion. they tell us almost unanimously and if you don't get the quality right, teach how to add and subtract and balance a bank account, that you're getting your priorities wrong. >> that's what they all said, that woke is getting too much emphasis over reading, writing and arithmetic. >> let's go back to what woke is, which is caring for a marginalized sector of society in the past and being socially
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thoughtful about the future. when it comes to the governor of any state being involved in the curriculum, that's just absurd to me. my kids go to public school in new york. i look at the department of education. i trust the people that are educators to teach my kids what they're supposed to be learning in school and to frank's point, obviously the most important thing is they learn how to read and write and learn skills. at the same time let people be whomever they want to be. this whole idea these people are feeling marginalized because of their sexual orientation is just the most absurd thing. it's sad. >> not that they're feeling marginalized. >> that people are wanting to marginalize them. >> let parents decide. in the end you'll lose an election if you put a barrier to let parents make the decisions. >> i want to talk about how
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challenging this is for young people because they're experiencing on the one hand a real opening up of culture and social norms. they have a lot more language to talk about gender fluidity. when you look at the transgender population in the country, 18% are younger people. they have a lot more language to talk about their gender identity and on the other hand, they're confronted with political backlash. there's 150 bills across 25 states that are trying to regulate the behavior of transgender people and gender identity conversations. so there's a real whiplash for young people. i think that's an impossibly challenging situation to be in. >> can i ask you a question? what percentage of americans are transgender? i've been looking. >> i have, too. all i could find, i found two sources, was 1%. >> so why are we spending so much time on 1% and we're not spending the same on the other 99%? i don't understand it. >> that's a good way for desantis to get elected. >> it's a culture war.
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>> i can tell you lgbtq+ youth contemplate suicide three to four times as often as a sis gender heterosexual counterparts. people are dying, thinking about killing themselves. people's entire identities in ways of life are being erased every single day because of what people like governor desantis are doing. i'd love to have i guess a more extended conversation about what happened in virginia. i was in congress and there was a lot going on, frustration the biden agenda wasn't implemented as quickly. there was the whole debate over infrastructure and build back better. >> that was not the issue. >> the polling of parents, they actually cared less than older people who are watching fox news about certain topics taught in schools. people who didn't have school age children. i don't want to read too much into what was happening. >> that debate was so memorable and that one line he gave changed the entire election and if you asked governor
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mcauliffe, he would acknowledge it. it's not what he meant. >> because parents want to believe they're involved even if they're not equipped to your point as subject matter experts. >> when do you see parents getting involved in the day-to- day minutia of what their kids are taught outside of this one issue? let's be intellectually honest. >> let's be intellectually honest. what covid did because it destroyed the education system in this country. what it actually did was students were at home in the kitchen. parents were listening to what their kids were being taught and they freaked out. for the first time ever moms and dads across the country realized what their children were learning and they were outraged by it. it's why you see it even in places like san francisco people voting against school boards because they're so frustrated that their kids aren't learning critical thinking, aren't learning problem solving, aren't learning conflict resolution. >> yeah. civil discourse for sure. i want to say i don't know how many transgender people there are in the country. when i tried to look it up,
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that's the statistic i saw. truly this is not -- i don't want you to think there was some sort of deep dive research, but i also think because it's so new and to your point, not that the phenomenon is new, but the conversation that we're having, that it's very possible there aren't actual, you know, hard numbers and statistics on this yet. finally to your point, people have a language to talk about it. that's why it feels as though there's this sort of sudden blossoming of all this because now we talk about it openly. i remember 25 years ago we used to say a man trapped in a woman's body is what we called it or a woman trapped in a man's body. so it existed. i certainly knew i had friends who felt that way, but in terms of all our new language, i think it's new and we don't know yet. >> here's my recommendation. listen to your kids because my girls come home from school and go -- i say do you have a boyfriend? dad, everybody's bi.
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they're like my teenage daughters and i'm trying to digest that a second. >> you just scared the hell out of people watching. been there done that. >> i'm like okay. you girls got it under control, okay. >> i know. it's a totally brave new world. >> what the hell is going on at the mcenroe house. that's what people are asking right now. >> mondare, what else would you like to say? >> i just hope we remember -- the truth is the number is quite small percentage-wise. i hope we remember these are real people being used as political footballs. >> of course. >> i grew up closeted wondering if there was a place for me in this world not seeing a certain future for myself and it was because of politicians like ron desantis that gave me the kind of emotional trauma that i experienced growing up. still today too many young lgbtq people experience. >> that's not fair to the governor. he is responding to hundreds of thousands of parents who are
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concerned about -- >> is he or is he ginning it up and they are picking up what he said? >> yeah. he put this on the political radar. he's leaving this and other people are following him. >> he's spoken up more than anyone about it, but again, parents, if you ask them, want the focus on the core issues and these talents and skills we need for the future. they don't want to focus on the 1%. they want to -- >> they also don't want it banned. i totally hear you. our voter fan said the same thing. they want you to be able to ask your teacher how valentine's day was. >> desantis is making it the focus. >> parents want their children to be taught about the world as it exists. it's a disservice educationally to not teach certain subjects. >> they want their kids to be kind and civil and respectful. >> just like we are.
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are you in your head? >> 30. i'm sticking there. i'm not excited about going out on the weekends, or being social, i'm very happy to stay at home. but, i also feel like i could if i wanted to, and i will still stay out until maybe 11:00 or midnight. i got that out of my system. >> how old are you really ? >> 28. but in my head, i am forever 21. embracing free spirit, i talked to people on tiktok manifesting. so like i like that even if you are in your 20s you are still young. it's a follow dominant for everyone. i'm forever 37, not only in my fellow 37, i lied about my age so much, i forget how old i am. i checked myself and not knowing. i used to like when i was younger, now that i live lie
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that i'm older. >> i'm going to jump in, how old are you really? >> of 56. but i still think i just got out of college. >> your that young? >> that's how i feel, as i always want to do something new. my body as a former professional, i'm not quite feeling like i'm 22, but somewhere deep there in the bowels of my mind, i just got out of college. frank? >> in my head, i may be. >> doby is older in your head. >> i had a birthday yesterday. >> it was very hard getting out of bed. it was very hard getting out of bed. >> you are an old man trapped in a middle-aged man's body. it's not something happened around age 50, and flips to the other side. >> now you're older than you
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