to bafta, but this could mean something different at the oscars and on the tv side not a surprise that "white lotus" won the big award for jennifer coolidge, and a lot of emotion in her speech, and folks love that show, and the actors were on the red carpet and we had a lot of great commentary and "abbott elementary" won for best comedy. jim? >> you get the best assignments. thank you for bringing us all of the stories. top of the hour this monday, and i'm jim sciutto, and homeowners are cleaning up after the severe storms ripped through the parts of the central u.s. after storms tearing up homes and businesses. nine tornadoes touched down in oklahoma and kansas.norman, okl

there for the moment. and the u.s. is warning china that it is going to face stiff consequences if beijing goes ahead to give weapons including drones and ammunition to russia for the ongoing invasion of ukraine. this is two ukrainian worker were killed amid a fresh wave of russian attacks. and we have the late west the storms overnight. >> at least seven tornadoes touching down in oklahoma. we have ed lavandera in norman which is south of oklahoma city. you been doing a good job this morning to showing people what it looks like in the wake of one these, and tell us what you are seeing now? >> well, the sun is up, and the residents here are beginning to go through the neighborhood, assess the damage and begin the cleanup process, but you can see the magnitude of the car, and

this is flipped up on top of another one, and this is ripped apart by the storm, and we have seen this throughout the particular neighborhood in norman, oklahoma. the good news, it is isolated, so once you get a half mile or so from here, everything is back to normal, but it is speaking to the sporadic nature and the unpredictability of where these tornadoes are going to land. that is obviously troublesome especially when the systems come in the mid of the night and in the darkness where you can't see and get a gauge of what is happening. many people are shaken by what happened here. a while ago, jim, we met a woman named tabitha heaton who is a 10th grade math teacher in oklahoma city, and she talked to us while she was cleaning up the driveway. she is trying to get everything cleaned up so she can get the car out of the garage and get on with the day, but she talked about what it is like to endure

the tornado late last night. >> i had went to walmart maybe not an hour earlier and groceries for the week, whatnot. got home. got'em unpacked and turned on the news, because i knew that there was weather, and i was like, oh, there's one kind of headed towards this way. i heard the sirens going off and i thought, well, i'm going to get in my safe place and i grabbed the cat and it was a second and i thought, oh, i might not have a house. >> reporter: she told us, jim, she is physically fine, but emotionally shaken, and you can tell there from listening to her, and she said that everything happened so quickly, that the storm came through and the house shook, and she is still feeling shaken by what she endured last night, but it is over very quickly, and that is at least some of the silver lining but she knew that the way

that the house was moving that there would be damage, and she is beginning the damage, jim. >> you look there and it is a long cleanup process and we forget that in the wake of these. thank you, ed lavandera. and the u.s. is warning china that there are real costs ahead if it gives russia weapons in the wake of this war with ukraine. and so in the talks the with beijing, they are laying out the stakes and the consequences, and sources have said that washington has new evidence that china is considering providing russia with drones and ammunition. kylie atwood is at the state department with more. ky kylie, does the u.s. have a strategy where they make public intelligence at least it seems to influence china before it makes a decision, and does the u.s. know how close china is going forward this is >> not really.

they have not said when china is going to make the final decision, but the possibility of the united states talking about this publicly and the fact that china is mulling this over is to deter china from going ahead with it. and we have heard from the cia director over the weekend and the language that he used in the interview saying that the u.s. is confident that china is considering this. listen to sound bite. >> well, we are confident that the chinese leadership is considering the provision of lethal equipment, and we also don't see that a final decision has been made yet, and we don't see the evidence of shipments of lethal equipment, and that is why secretary blinken and the president have made it very clear the consequences of what that would be. >> and we have heard from the

national security adviser over the weekend that china is aware of real costs of going ahead to provide this lethal assistance to russia in this war with ukraine, they have not said what the costs would be, but in private conversations the secretary of state and the president and lower level ambassador the china have been very clear with china what the consequences would be. jim, the concern here is that any additional lethal assistance to russia that could be used in this war would prolong the war, and this is exactly what the united states wants to prevent from happening, and the backdrop is that the u.s./china relationship is in a tense moment. we had the chinese spy balloon and now them weighing providing munitions and now they are focused on their differences.

>> and getting worse, perhaps. thank you, kylie atwood. analyst peter gergen is joining us. good to have you on this morning. >> good morning, jim. >> so if china were to aid russia in terms of the weapons and you could argue they are aiding them by buying their oil, and does that lengthen the war? does china want to lengthen the war or bog down the u.s. and the lies? >> well, jim, china has had sort of a mixed view of the war. you know, it did not go as planned certainly for putin, but on the other hand, china does not have a world of allies, so anything that can hem russia and also they have a common enemy. so this is clearly some advantages, but when jake sullivan says that the united states is going to impose real costs on china, i wonder what those are, after all, china is not russia with an economy that is smaller than italy's, and we

do half a trillion of dollars, and import half a trillion of imports from china and export $150 million to them. so this is a rather different kind of situation. i mean, you could imagine the united states imposing sanctions on the individual chinese military companies perhaps, but it is a slap on the wrist. >> it is hard to see broader sanctions that don't increase prices here given all that the u.s. imports from china. you have another power in the war, iran, sending russia drones, and now the u.s. believes that as burns was saying that russia offering to aid iran's missile program in re return -- is that an expansion of the war beyond ukraine's borders with an impact in the middle east? >> i believe it is, and iran has very few allies as well. so both of the countries are looking for help from each

other, and what is fascinating with the discussion with kylie, is that we are publicly putting out intelligence that previously and that is a very important point to make is that secrecy is not a policy. secrecy serves policy, and if secret information is useful to achieve certain policy, it should be used and the biden administration has done it adeptly, but there is a trap here, that we are about to memorialize the 20th anniversary of invasion of iraq, and there was a lot of intelligence put out there about the weapons of mass destruction and a lot of it was wrong. so by and large, the biden administration has done it rather well. >> and talking about the information, and this is the public debate here as far as covid-19, and was it a lab leak or naturalized in the wild. so now you have to department

changing assessment to more or less to be a lab leak. what is happening here? what needs to be done now to get hard answers to this question? >> jim, unfortunately, i don't think that we will ever get a real answer. that said, we have never had a covid commission like the 9/11 commission, and this is desperate. because more americans have died of covid which is more than the american revolution which is an astonishing issue. of course, it is politicized issues, and there is going to be a house commission, and senate commission, and we need a staff and subpoena power to look into this, because the next pandemic could be worse. imagine a covid that is, let's say twice as lethal as the present version or permutations that you could imagine, and we were massively underprepared and why that is the case is something we need to find out, and the policies to make it work

better the next time. >> knowing where it came from and the circumstances would presumably help the response. peter bergen, thank you very much. >> thank you, jim. moments ago, the judge in the alex murdaugh murder trial said that the jurors can go to the crime scene. and also, we are hearing from the pathologist, and we will go to that in a moment. and plus, a south carolina judge says that she will allow a pledge before any candidate in the primaries. and also, a contaminated shipment of the waste from east palestine, ohio, and congress has more plans to hold norfolk southern accountable. your pill. or opting for the couch. your best sleep.p. all nighght. every night. for a limited time, save up to $500 on select tempur-pededic

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the alex murdaugh murder trial has resumed with a forensic pathologist on the stand. you can see him testifying there and this is after the judge made an interesting decision to grant the defense's request to allow the jurors to go see the murder scene themselves. the defendant took the stand admitting that he lied to the police insisting that he did not kill his wife and son. and so, that is quite a decision. do we know when this visit to the crime scene is going to take place? >> jim, in the next couple of days and possibly as early as tomorrow or probably more likely wednesday at this point. the defense did say they expect to rest today as well this

morning. so they are telling judge that as well. but the jury is going to go to moselle, the 1,700 acre property 30 minutes or so from the courthouse where the murders took place. and the defense made that request, and the state was objecting to it, because it has changed including trees between the kennels and the main house which they felt was a big deal, but the defense pointing out that dozens of tourists and people came by the feedroom where paul murdaugh was there to take selfies of themselves there over the weekend to have people have a look of themselves, and alex murdaugh's brother had to call the sheriff to have those people removed, but murdaugh did admit after 20 months of lying to the police that he was at the kennels at around the time of the murders, but he did not kill his wife and son, and the prosecutor is not buying that it

is somebody random. listen to this exchange from friday. >> so what you are telling the jury is that it is a random ep vigilante. >> that is your -- >> that the person just happened to know that both paul and maggie were there on june 7th that they would be be at the kennel alone between 8:02 and 8:15 and -- >> you have a lot of factors in there, mr. waters. >> and you heard him mention a 12-year-old, because the defense had an expert come on, and he looked at the trajectory at the bullets, and he said that it had to be somebody who had to be much shorter than alex murdaugh, because if it were somebody that tall, they would have held it at their knee, and he predicted it

was somebody that was about 5'2" or 5'4" and that is why he said it was a random 12-year-old. >> and that is a lot to digest. and particularly the judge allowing jury to go to the crime scene, and what is the significance there of that? what does the defense want to accomplish there? >> well, the defense is saying that the crime scene was contaminated and it was not properly secured by law enforcement agents, and that people were allowed to walk through it, and the defense has to deal with the time line issue, and how long it took him to get to the kennel and back to the house, and how long it took to leave to the property, and a lot of issues with respect to the time line and the prosecution case primarily rests on the fact that alex was right there at the kennel just minutes before they lock in the time of

death for both maggie and paul, and so the defense wants to give the jurors some perspective of how large this property is and how it is that alex could have been at the house and not heard the alleged gunman or person as it were that killed the wife and son. so the defense is trying to fight back on this time line issue of what alex knew or didn't know. >> you heard the prosecutor saying that in effect that the jury has to believe a lot to believe it is somebody else, and short time window, and imagining that the two were there, and so on. you heard the case. but it is not really the prosecutor's job, because all they have to do to create some reasonable doubt. when you are looking at the case overall, have they created reasonable doubt? >> i think they have. the prosecutor's case has always had some holes in it, and the biggest hole is that they have never identified or been able toll find the murder weapon.

they have not produce the bloody clothing had someone would have been having this massive amount of blood splatter on the clothing, and you don't have an eyewitness, and so when a case is built on the circumstantial evidence, the defense has a slight advantage. in this case, you have a massive lie, and this lie that alex murdaugh told the law enforcement at the night of the murders and continued to tell for 20 months, and to the extent that the jurors have concerns about at the lack of the murder weapon, and the lack of the bloody clothes, they have to weigh that against the lie that alex has admitted telling. >> big question here, too, is how the prosecution gets over a circumstantial case, right? they made the point, and even going back to opening arguments

knowing this, the prosecutors did that as far as the law is concerned, the circumstantial evidence is just as good as direct evidence, but is it though in a jury trial? >> well, you have to separate the legal issue, yes. and circumstantial evidence should be enough for the jurors to find that someone is guilty of a particular crime. that is what the law says, but then you have the reality of human experiences, and one of the big problems in this case is the thought that someone like alex murdaugh who was so close to his wife and son would kill them in such a heinous way, and then you had the witness testimony from buster. bust seer is the older son who d that his father was distraught that night, and you would not typically see a son testifying on behalf of his father if he believed that he killed the mother and younger brother. and yes, he told a lie and holes

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so, if the republican presidential candidates want to participate in the gop presidential debates they have to sign a pledge to support the eventual nominee, and this is coming from the go p committee president. >> it is a no-brainer, you should sign a pledge saying that i will sign whoever is the

eventual nominee. >> and joining us for the pbs newshour, and good to have you with us. and when we speak of a trump, laura, are the debates valuable enough to him to make a pledge that he clearly has not been willing to make? >> i think that in the end, they are potentially going to be valuable to the former president simply because, this is an area where in the past, he was able to neutralize a lot of the republicans when he participated in the debates in 2016. and trump, we know he could easily make a pledge like this and then ultimately decide to go against it. so it should be kept within the realm of possibility in this specific instance. >> and margaret tallob, he could make that pledge, trump, and then break it. so what is the loss for him in effect? >> right. jim, i think that's the real

conundrum here is that if this is meant to bring donald trump into the fold so that he doesn't, you know, leave or try to become a third-party candidate or suck support away from a different gop, the problem is that for the other gop contenders and someone like an aceh hutchinson, it is inherently making it different for a different republican rival to say that trump is not suited to be a president again, because he tried to block joe biden's election and then gave oxygen to january 6th, so that is going to block some rivals who have continued to say that they would support any republican nominee, so it may in practice only affect couple of people, but for the party which is having this reckoning of whether it is time to move beyond donald trump, problem is how do you move beyond when you won't say the thing out loud that you are not

concerned about, because you can't get it on the stage. >> and move beyond him, and dismiss the lie about the 2020 election. >> and so, laura, they can't be vicious and vitriol ik about each other, and not so much about the vicious attacks on the democrats, but what is she and the others going to do with those still in the party of trump or say like voices like marjorie taylor greene? >> we have not seen the indication whether it is the rnc chairwoman or if they will going to be taking a firm line when it is coming to the gop candidates who really attack each other in vitriol ik and nasty say ways. we saw that last time, that is the way that president trump beat back the rest of the competition, and it is likely expected that is what is going to happen again. right now, when a lot of the candidates are asked about

trump, they say they don't want to talk about him or they say they agree with him, and they are happy that he was president, and this is what senator tim scott said recently, and again, they don't differentiate with him, or the policy to even say that he called for the suspension of the constitution. >> understood. speak of the competition, florida governor ron desantis is doing everything but announcing the run for 2024 and out with a new book and video paid for by his campaign committee. we will have a brief clip and get ycomments. >> we are the fastest growing state, and we ran number one in education, and we are number one in economic freedom. florida also ranks number one in public higher education. this is a record that we can all be proud of. >> and definitely the left hates governor desantis, because he is

a winner. he wins. >> success is attainable, and freedom is worth fighting for. >> that is looking a lot like a video for a presidential campaign, margaret talev. >> the music give you a clue, too? this is the silly part of the season that everybody says, does this mean that ron desantis is going to run? yes, obviously, because why would you do that if you were not planning to run. what is the roll out, and the clues and the ramp up around the book release and the decision at this point not to participate in cpac, and he does not have to, because he is going to get his own coverage and differentiate himself from the pack. >> and obviously, donald trump is trying out the nicknames for him, and attacking him, and

saying he is responsible for desantis' success, and how does that potential rivalry play out for other primaries and do they have any primaries where they consume each other in the primaries? >> potentially, but i think that a lot of the republican strategists they have talked to, the more the candidates that jump in, the more it benefits former president trump, but with desantis, she biggest threat to the former president. the former president does have some avenues to try to differentiate himself from desantis, and particularly on something that we are hearing a lot of from president biden which is medicare and social security. trump did it last time around, and saying that the republicans supported cuts to entitlement, and a desantis is one of them, and that is the different policy differences that the former president tries to point out particularly with desantis.

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and the region struggle to recover from the devastating massive earthquake now three weeks ago. at least one more person died in the 5.2 aftershock, and one of nearly 10,000 shocks that have rattled the area since the february 6th shake. we are joined by nada bashir, and it is just heartache upon heartache, and what more do we know about the aftershock and ongoing recovery efforts? >> it really is, jim. for those in southeast turkey who have been displaced by the initial earthquake and hundreds of thousands of them, you can imagine the trauma and fear everyday adds we continue to see the aftershocks, and this is coming after a more powerful one 6.3 in magnitude last week, but this is the amount of aftershocks that the country would expect to see in four months, but this is a hugely

difficult time for those living in southeast turkey. according to the authorities there are 6 people reported in. >> -- reported injured. we have been visiting some of those areas hardest hit including some of the haytap province, and the destruction in these cities is inconceivable, and hard to put into words. some of the cities feel like a ghost town, and they have nothing left. they are living in the camp cities that have sprung up across southeast turkey, and 900,000 people living in tents at the moment, and that number is expected to grow. the people that we encountered were not sure when they would be given of accommodation. this is a challenge for the

turkish government, because we have learned that construction work has started in gaziantep, and hundreds more to be built in the coming monthssh but there is criticism for some even the union of engineers here in turkey, because they say it is too hasty, and there needs to be further preparations to make sure that the areas are safe, and the fact that we are seeing the powerful aftershocks is underscoring the concern, but with the elections looming, there is a significant amount of pressure on president erdogan to provide a long-term solution. >> and what is the standards of these buildings. thank you, nada bashir. the epa is starting to bring contaminated waste out of east palestine, ohio. until then, norfolk southern was solely responsible, but the epa

stopped the shipments up till officials in texas and ohio complained because they had no warning that the shipments were headed their way. and now s, some democrats and republicans were upset by the government's response, and is there any progress on what went wrong here exactly? >> i think that a lot of progress is being made on that certainly. the ntsb that is looking into the accident, the national transportation safety board is looking into the axle and the wheel bearing and how long it had been on the tracks and was there fault in it or just wear that caused it to happen, and the system of indicators for when you have a car that is overheating or a wheel axle that is overheating like that, and it started in a single car that was

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a wave of russian attacks are hitting eastern ukraine as we speak. ukraine's military has repelled 81 attacks in the last 24 hour as russia attempts an offensive

in the region. at least two people were injured by shelling in donetk. and 25 settlements came under fire there. and this video shows the extent of the destruction left behind. there in bakhmut, there are some american medics on the front lines doing what they can to help the wounded at great risk to themselves. cnn senior correspondent sam kiley rode along with some volunteers near a hospital in ukraine. we want to warn you that some of the images may be disturbing. >> reporter: walking with this soldier who has an obvious injury. walking near bakhmut, the american paramedics are looking

for trauma. >> roll him and tell him that we are going to be looking for trauma or injury. >> we will be checking for shrapnel injuries. >> reporter: he is from houston, texas, and less than three kilometers from the russian troops, and he is only 22. last year he took time out of his job to help road to relieve, and the charity is relying on the donation to equip the front line donations, and the teams are unpaid. >> i have credit cards in my mom's name, and prior savings, so if you have enough money to scrape by and buy the basic goods, things are okay. >> reporter: the hospital and the medical staff are regularly targeted by russia. this location is hidden in the trees and artillery, and this is

fired on by the russians. >> we need more medics around and the amount of the injured is super high. >> does he have any allergies. >> reporter: chris is saying that privately the need for foreign volunteers to work as medics is because so many of the ukrainians have been killed. the team is relying on a former software engineer for translation. is there anything about this that you cannot handle? >> and with this, they are incredibly hard to take. somehow you feel guilty about that. >> reporter: it is a 20-minute run to the field hospital. >> can you push this slowly for me, please. a mine that was roughly 20 or 30 minutes ago now. a mine 30 minutes ago.

careful, please. >> reporter: he's delivered to another secret clinic, and here, soldiers are pouring in, and he has lost his leg, and it is a piece of shrapnel that took it. and the medics say it is relatively quiet and some days, it is hundreds of patients. >> he does not remember losing consciousness, but the pupils are equal and reactive and the same size. >> reporter: and the equipment dries outside, and back at the evacuation point, no wounded, and five dead soldiers lie in the body bags, and so fresh from the battlefield, they are unknown. they are photographed and the suffering is over, and the families don't yet know that

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