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so i take garlique to help maintain healthy cholesterol safely and naturally. and it's odor free. i'm taking charge of my cholesterol with garlique. >> good evening, we begin tonight keeping them honest with what is one of the most powerful elected officials in the country said today about transparency versus what he's actually doing about it. house speaker kevin mccarthy is the highest ranking republican in congress, and is second in line to the presidency, but became speaker only by the barest margin and only by winning the votes in the 11th hour by the most extreme members of his party. one promise that he made while competing to be speaker, according to cnn's melanie zanona, the new york times, was to make thousands of hours of security camera footage from the january 6th attack public. today, here's how speaker mccarthy justified his decision to release the video. >> i think that sunshine matters, i don't care what side of the issue you are on. that's why i think that getting at this to the american public, you can see the true.

>> what can be wrong with that? for starters, he's not actually doing what he said, he's not putting it all out to the american public. he is giving it to a fox host tucker carlson, the one who has spent months downplaying the significance of the day, and hosting people peddling conspiracy theories about the day and lies about the election. when asked about, that the speaker suggested that the objections were just sour grapes. >> did you think there's an issue with cnn -- all night? and were you concerned with cnn getting the footage ahead of time, and what we have seen here about the subpoenas before they release them? >> what's going to happen here is that everybody is going to have their own opinion. >> we see it in the exact same way. that doesn't quite make sense. we've gotten plenty of scoops about plenty of things, and so has everyone network. we welcome them.

separately, george scalise singling out the one that we got from documentary filmmaker alexander pelosi, footage showing her mother, then speaker pelosi, and others on the day of the attack. >> i did not hear a lot of concern about that back then. they released a lot of stuff that probably would not be good for capitol police. >> congressman scalise should know about that, the care that went into that exclusive, the capitol police every piece of footage that we aired in order to not raise his security concerns. in any case, this isn't about us or any other network airing an exclusive, it's about the particular network that the speaker chose in order to get this particular exclusive about a specific incident that this network has covered in a very particular way. especially after what we learned just yesterday in the dominion voting systems lawsuit against fox. not from the plaintiffs, from fact his own rupert murdoch who admitted that they, quote, endorsed false claims that the 2020 election was stolen. the very same false claims that fueled january 6th, lies that tucker carlson knew or

suspected to be lies, according to his own communications. also made public in the dominion loss. lies that he aired while also downplaying the attack itself. cnn's manu raju asked speaker mccarthy about this today. >> are you at all concerned about the fact that carlson downplayed this attack? you thought it was a very serious attack at the capitol, why give it to somebody who is downplaying it? >> sunshine matters. i don't care what side of the issue your arm. >> a question about that, if sunshine about january 6th really matters, why did the speaker defy the subpoena to testify before the house january 6th committee. even if he thought himself exempt, if sunshine really matters, why did he not tell three of his members, scott perry, andy biggs, and jim jordan to testify, instead of defying their subpoenas, which is what they did. if bringing the truth about january 6th out of the sunshine really matters, why is the conspiracy aficionados downplaying the attack, now his new right hand woman? somebody who said this about that day. >> they say the entire thing

was planned, are you kidding me? a bunch of conservative second amendment supporters went into the capitol without guns, and you think we organize that? i don't think so. >> of course, that is marjorie taylor greene who helped to become speaker, about the new york times quoting the friend, in a friends, words i would've never leave that women. in mccarthy's support of her, it speaks volumes about what matters to him more than transparency and sunshine, namely her support of him and not just her, but the other extremists. it goes higher than that. during the attack, under siege from a violent mob, then minority leader mccarthy then called president trump, when it became apparent nothing would be done about, it he asked, quote, who the f do you think you're talking about? turns out the former president already knew. a man who badly wanted to become speaker, that's who. weeks later, he went down to mar-a-lago, kissed the ring on the hand of the man who would not lift a finger to call off the mob who was terrorizing him. crucially, a man that could make or break him becoming

speaker. along with a lot of other smaller men and women, all tangled up in something that the speaker now frames as being about ground principles, and not just petty ambition. more from cnn's manu raju, who joins us now from the capital. what more did mccarthy have to say? >> anderson, this was the most extensive comments yet about this controversy. over the last few, weeks the house has been on recess, and yesterday, when they came back into session, he actually ducked reporters, escaping out of the first floor of the capital, not answering any questions about the matter. and today, continuing to defend his decision, trying to compared to other networks, like cnn, who got exclusives on other issues. time and time again, as i've pressed him about why tucker carlson was downplaying this attack, floating these conspiracies, why would he give this to tucker carlson in particular? he did not engage directly on that. as you noted in your opening, this is something that sunshine matters here, which is why he is giving it to tucker carlson. he did indicate that the media worked broadly and would get it afterwards.

it's unclear exactly when that would occur, but initially he believed it with 14,000 hours of security footage provided, he has since learned that more than 42,000 hours of security footage that also is part of this review, but said that the u.s. capitol police are looking at all of this footage, looking at making sure that whatever is air does not compromise security. he expects that process to take another few weeks, and anderson, we also learned today that mccarthy is greenlit defendants, january 6th defendants to essentially use the house, coming into the capitol to review security footage as part of their own defense. he says that it's perfectly normal, part of due process, it's also available under nancy pelosi when she was speaker. speaker pelosi's office told us that pelosi as speaker never authorized anyone to come in and review those january 6th of the defendants to review that footage. nevertheless, all part of the

questions and controversy of mccarthy's handling of this issue, even as he contends that it will all be public sometime soon, anderson. >> will the public just get the footage that tucker carlson has decided to use in whatever message she wants to use it for? or will they get all 44,000 hours? >> it's still a little bit unclear. mccarthy didn't exactly specify what the public would see, and whether it would be different than what tucker carlson ultimately gets to air. that's something that is still needing to be worked out. anderson, i caught up with a number of house republicans today about this issue, and some defendants, kevin mccarthy, others were concerned. >> i disagree with that decision. if you are going to release 40,000 hours of video, give it to everybody. this should not be filtered through one lens or another. >> i'm worried that somebody who is pushing these

conspiracies is going to have first access to them. >> we would not have been my choice, but in the end, we are all going to have access to. i think that's the bottom line. >> there will be full transparency, and it will go to the american people. >> it doesn't bother me. >> one member, republican let member of the leadership also would not express how he views the situation, and that is mitch mcconnell. the senate republican leader. i asked him directly whether or not he was concerned about providing this footage to tucker carlson. all he would say is that he is concerned about the security of the capital, as he was under speaker pelosi. he would not go any further, and mccarthy told me today that he did not consult with mcconnell about this decision to erase the footage, aaron pierson. >> thank you. i want to get perspective from george conway, washington post contributor. george, what does this make of the? >> it makes sense as a purely pr act to classify, to placate tucker carlson into placating

the maga base. it doesn't make any sense from any other standpoint, for example the idea that the defendants need this in order to defend themselves, but the government already has this stuff, and if there is anything in there that's exculpatory, they are required to produce it. and so under the brady against maryland. the fact of the matter is, what is it that they could possibly show which would help these defendants? for example, if you catch one defendant smearing feces on the wall of the capital, and later uses the bathroom in another video, and washes his hands, that doesn't get you off of what he did in the first place. and so showing whatever else they could possibly glean from it, showing the capitol police officers at some point allowed people to come in, they did that in part because they were trying to prevent a bloodbath. and so i just don't understand what it is that they are trying to accomplish here, other than to perpetuate the january 6th lie, that there is nothing extraordinary which happened

again or sixth. >> from a legal perspective, how much trouble do you think that fox news is in with this dominion lawsuit? >> i can't. it's incredible. i litigated libel cases, one in particular in my practice 25 years ago, and litigated in lots of other cases. when you have a libel case, and do the plaintiff, or the plaintiffs lawyer, you don't expect to get anything remotely like this. these cases are like a kaleidoscope, and what you have is sometimes you turn it one way, and reporters look a little bit careless and look like they're ignoring something on the other end, and you can see how they might have believed the story to be true. and so what is really remarkable is that this comes in the context of the most difficult standard, one of the most difficult standards that you could possibly apply in a

libel case, which is the new york times against -- which governs the libel claims on manners of public concern against public figures, and so that requires -- it's a bit of a misnomer, because people talk about it being a standard of actual malice, rico uses that word. but malice is not required. and then you also hear the term reckless disregard. mint recklessness is not enough, it's not enough that the reporter blew past the facts. what you have to show is, and there's a case from 1968 called and it versus thompson, which says the what you have to show to show reckless disregard is that at a minimum, the publisher of the information, or the broadcaster of information actually entertained serious doubts as the truth of what was being reported. here you have that in droves, and at multiple levels. you have fact-checker, zingers, you have rupert murdoch, all agreeing that this was false. you never see in libel cases,

virtually never, the libel plaintiffs moving for summary judgment, which is a judgment without a trial, saying that there is really no issue going to the jury, it's all one side. because the standard against libel plaintiffs is so high, and here they have made that notion. it's not a bad motion. i think that ultimately, it will be heard before a jury, but if the judge actually granted, and certainly on falsity, because they are not disputing falsity, and the judge actually granted an actual malice, and in the state of mind, the new york times standard. that would not be crazy. it is remarkable. >> do you think it affects if the ruling does go to trial, and there is a big fine for fox, does that impact right-wing

media, how it behaves going into the 2024 election? we're even just the handling of the former president? because fox is in this weird position now of how, if the former president goes on the air and repeats lies about dominion voting machines and the last election, what did they do? >> it is hard to say, because the law is not going to be any different after a judgment has entered against fox than it was before. you're not supposed to lie, you can't tell lies, you're going to held liable for lies. and yet foxes maintaining this crazy view, and you saw it in the excerpts of rupert murdoch 's deposition, and you see it and some of the states of the pr flax have been releasing. it's, like fox did not endorse the big lie, maybe it was some of our anchors that did. it doesn't work that way, you know that, anderson. if you say something and you report something, and you describe it as fact, or even as something short of the established fact, cnn is on the hook if you libel somebody. and your state of mind matters. it is so crazy what they are taking the position like this.

these people, we pay them, we pay the millions of dollars. this is foreign here, on air, they speak for, us but they don't speak for us. it's crazy. >> george conway, we appreciate it. thank you. next, breaking news, what the fbi director said about the origins of covid pandemic, and whether it started with a lab leak. later, prosecution calls their final witness to the alex murdaugh final double murder case. and the jury versus the crime scene later tonight. ♪ i gotta good feeling about this, yeah ♪ ♪ i'm with it ♪ ♪ i gotta good feeling about this ♪ ♪ yeah, ♪ ♪ so let's get it ♪ ♪ i'm feeling good vibes ♪ lactaid is 100% real milk, just without the lactose. tastes great in our iced coffees too.

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italy low confidence assessment that the covid pandemic pianos lab leak in china. tonight a, fox fbi director christopher wray a knowledge publicly that -- with what sounds like higher confidence. >> the fbi has, for quite some time now, assessed that the origins of the pandemic are most likely a potential lab incident and wuhan. if we step back for a second, the fbi has agents, professionals, analysts, virologists, microbiological it's, it's that, or who focus specifically on the dangers of biological threats, which include things like novel viruses like covid. the concerns in the wrong hands, some hostile nation state, a terrorist, criminal, the threats that those can pose. here, you are talking about a potential leak from a chinese government controlled lab which killed millions of americans.

that is precisely what that capability was designed for. >> director wray added the deep euros investigation continues, and the chinese government seems to be, quote, thwarting and update the work here. dan culver joins us now for more. what is the reaction of these comments? obviously, they said this before. >> they will continue to do it again. it's stigma fig and given that these are the first public comments on the fbi's investigation, and he reiterated that there is moderate confidence from the agency's investigation that this started as a lab leak. what i would love to see is some of the intel that actually details why they came to that conclusion, but he held back on specifics as with most of these agencies as they come forward the conclusions. as far as the chinese, and how they are going to go forward this, there's been a playbook at this point. some of it is quite literally scripted from the foreign ministry that at this point,

they've probably memorized it. that's to say the u.s. is trying to smear china, that this is politicizing the issue, and they often go back to that science based approach. they say that that is the way this should be done, through science. the issue with that is that while the w. h. o. initially said that after the field visit in 2021, it is highly unlikely that it started in a lab, the w. h. o. also asked to go back. if china really wants to pursue that science based approach, you would think that they would say, okay, come back in. anything you, need we will provide. they found the opposite. they said no to the data, and no to another visit. >> the data is really critical, they've not provided the data that scientists would need to really understand exactly, and zero in on the origin. >> that has been the issue going back to the start of this. given that they have provided enough to allow the international science community to figure out what steps they need to move forward, and they argue that even played into some of the vaccine creation, but the reality on the ground

has been that there has been a wall after wall for a lot of the scientists and researchers who pointed out that they were not there as investigators, they want to stress that. that's a way to ease in from the chinese side in particular, because they don't want the chinese to think that they're trying to convict them on something, the chinese hated this idea that they could be potentially seen as blamed globally for this. the reality has stood that any information that would get us conclusive evidence as to how this started, it's really not come from the chinese, and that approach doesn't seem to be changing anytime soon. >> it's interesting they keep saying this shouldn't be politicized. they're clearly aware of some orders of political divide that exist, in that theory with the united states. >> they are acutely aware of that, and they watch how it's been played out in washington in particular. they love that. they love to see the division over the discussion of how it started, and democrats going against republicans on this. that is really what they tried to foster more than anything else.

and so they are really hoping that that will continue to distract things. the problem you're seeing here is that there is bipartisan support to be tough on china, and the party and state media says this in particular, and they hope for another campaign cycle more than anything else, in which they will see more division, infighting, and then that will distract things once again, anderson. >> david, thank, you we appreciate. next, florida governor ron desantis, the latest in his attempt to political reshape how college students are taught in a state, and some resistance to today. my business' payroll taxes will calculate themselves. right? uhh...nope. intuit quickbooks helps you manage your payroll taxes, cheers! with 100% accurate tax calculations guaranteed.

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i'm taking charge of my cholesterol with garlique. >> ahead of a likely 2020 presidential run, ron desantis is expanding his influence in how kids are taught in his state. that led to a protest in sarasota's new college of florida this afternoon. recently, he replaced six of the 13 members of the board of trustees, and then fired the college president, today with a new interim president, they abolished the office with the equity and inclusion programs, with the contentious meetings which included comments from the faculty, students, and alumni. >> this is political theater. all of you are here because we are not interested in education, you are here because you are riding coattails that you think is going to take you to the white house or national office. >> cnn's leyla santiago was at the meeting, and has more. >> shame on you. >> a fight for the future of this small liberal arts college

in sarasota. the new college of florida, a self described community of free thinkers, an honors college nestled off the waters of florida's west coast. >> i hope you enjoy the blood on your hands. history will judge you. >> i hope the kind of educational derailment, and utter disrespected the you are currently showing my students, my child, they've never suffered. >> this is probably my favorite spots on campus. >> yeah, it. gorgeous >> glass camila is a trans woman, and a second year student. >> >> the college really is this special place, and i'm worried about my future. i'm worried if i'm going to be able to graduate here, or if i will have to move to a different institution for my safety. >> the republican university of 700 students, the latest target and the education make over of governor ron desantis, a camp is now at the center of a conservative takeover after desantis appointed six political allies to its board of trustees last month. >> i've been working on an exciting process to take over the republican -- well known for being a social justice ghetto, recruiting left wing ideologues.

>> credited with leading the gop's battle against critical race theory, and other desantis appointed trustees said they want to bring in another -- and make everybody, including conservatives, feel welcome. but first, florida is where woke goes to die. >> the board was quick to big make big moves today, with trustees voting to abolish the office which worked on diversity, equity, and inclusion programs. this, after ousting the president during the previous board meeting in january. >> i don't believe the students are being indoctrinated at the college. >> he was replaced by a former education commissioner and speaker of the house, richard corcoran, and the board agreed to pay him more than double the base salary. >> first and foremost, i would be remiss if i did not say that one, i think a tremendous gratitude, and thank you to governor desantis. >> the overall on this campus,

only part of the governor's agenda for education in the state of florida, and possibly beyond. >> why don't we just do and teach the things that matter? why is it always somebody having to try to jam their agenda down our throats? >> widely considered to be a potential republican presidential candidate for 2024, the governor is battling the woke agenda, as he calls, it in classrooms. he rejects a proposed advanced placement african american studies course, saying that it lacked significant educational value. he made it closer scrutiny of books at schools, and endorsing candidates running for school boards in florida, a nonpartisan position. >> two years from, now people are going to say, wow, what governor desantis led, that new college with the new trustees, the trustees choosing the new interim president, and during that interim pre period, that

was a wonderful, whatever that might be, three years, three months, six months, a year and a half. >> a political road this didn't like alaska miller say that they are losing sleep over. >> it breaks my heart to see that they want to destroy a place that is so special, so successful, and providing a wonderful education for so many people. >> leyla, is it clear why he has chosen to implement the changes to this college in particular? >> anderson, the governor's office will tell you that there is concern over a decline enrollment numbers, that is what they told cnn in the statement. today, when i spoke with the interim president, and asked for some response to some of the criticism that we heard of the meeting, he told us the week he remained optimistic and confident about the future of new college, saying that he was sure he would bring in more money which would help this small community. but that provided a little comfort to the people that i spoke to on campus today, which said that they admit this is a

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>> tonight, new developments in the double murder trial. killing a wife and son in an attempt to cover-up his alleged

financial crimes. tomorrow morning, the jury is expected to visit the scene of the killings. today, the prosecution ended the rebuttal, after calling six witnesses. three 60's randi kaye joins us from south carolina with the latest. what happened in court today? >> anderson, it was an incredible day in court. south carolina's attorney general took over the question of the states last witness, and it was dramatic. together, they recreated how paul murdoch might have died, at least according to the defense. they used a courtroom door in order to act as the door to the feed room at the doghouse where he died. together, they did this recreation, and all the while the attorney general was wielding a shotgun. here's how it played out in court. >> is it your expert opinion that a six foot four shooter cannot be excluded from the murder of maggie and paul? >> i see nothing that could exclude a six foot four shooter. >> dr. kenneth mackenzie, again expert and crime scene recreation, called back to the stand free key testimony. testifying for the defense, telling the jury that whoever

killed maggie and paul murdoch was likely much shorter than alex murdaugh, who is about six foot four. the prosecutions expert disagreed. >> can a person be on their knees and get the same angle, be standing, and get the same angle? >> yes, sir. >> can a six foot four person, or a five foot four person shoot at the same angle, just at different distances? >> absolutely. >> can you exclude a six foot four defendant like alex murdaugh, or anybody for that matter, at that height, from shooting that shotgun at that angle? >> absolutely not. >> in one of the most dramatic moments of the trial, south carolina attorney general alan wilson pointed a shotgun at kenzy, in order to illustrate another defense theory that the state also believes is flawed. >> a defense witnesses that paul murdoch's fatal shot was a

downward facing contact one, meaning that the barrel of the shotgun was up against his head. this court demonstration was designed to show what prosecutors say that it just doesn't make sense. >> paul has just been shot, and in the defenses theory, tell me what to do. you act this out, and i'll do what you tell me what to do based on the defense's theory of the case. >> the defense agreed with the assessment that paul stood there for a moment, leading down this injured left arm, and he slowly walked towards the door. >> what does the shooter do? >> the shooter is coming in the door. >> what does the shooter do? >> he shoots paul in the back of the head after he passes him. and then he shoots paul in the back of the head like this. >> i think the theory is preposterous, in my opinion. >> the shooter shooting down.

>> how do pellets get embedded into the door for him up here? how is that possible? >> i think it is impossible myself. physics don't work their way. >> they would turn around because of the pressure, going back the opposite direction, 180-degree direction, that enough velocity to dent a steel exterior door, and in bed in the door frame. that just doesn't happen. the defense did its best to push back. >> do you believe that this palette it is in the door jim came through the shoulder? through the back, out the top of his head, and ended up in that location? >> it did not turn around and turn back to the top of a said. yes, sir. >> randi, we mentioned the introduction to your piece, the jury will visit the crime scene tomorrow.

i understand you're getting some additional information about it. >> yes, anderson, we have learned that they're going to leave early in the morning, and they will probably spend about an hour there. a van will take them there, they'll have security, courtroom staff with them, and the judge is going with them as well to moselle. it's about half an hour or so from the courtroom, where we are tonight. now the case has really wound down, because once they return from the crime scene tour that they are going to take, we will have jury instructions for them, and then we will have closing arguments as well here in court. tomorrow, anderson, i should note marks five weeks of testimony. we've had 61 witnesses from the state, 14 witnesses from the defense. it's been a lot of time in that courtroom for this jury. >> randi, thank you. we want to get some perspective from marc romero, law school professor and for admiral prosecutor jessica roth. mark, let's start with what we just heard from randi speech, about the final rebuttal witnesses that crime scene expert, pushing back against the fences crime scene expert, who claimed that the shooter was likely shorter than alex

murdaugh, what did you make from the testimony today? >> i thought it was very good, because i thought that the rebuttal to the defense was suggesting was spot on. the defense was suggesting one very static way where, it could not have been somebody six for. but the entire situation is so dynamic, and i thought that the presentation by that witness, and the prosecutor, i just thought it came across very well, and really discounts with the defense is trying to promote with their one view of how it could not have happened. >> jessica, what did you think about, it and the fact it is the attorney general doing the questioning? >> i thought the prosecution's rebuttal case, especially the last witness that we were talking about was very effective in debunking the defenses forensic case on a number of fronts, with respect to the so-called two shooter theory, the height of the shooter, and also other aspects of how the shooting of paul in particular happened. the defense has presented expert testimony suggesting that whoever shot paul would've had a lot of blood and tissue on, and would've been hard to get it off in time. and also, that person would've

been stunned momentarily, kind of unable to go shoot maggie. i thought that the expert testimony rebutting that forensic case, it was very effective. the attorney general himself showed up to do the last witness of the case, and i thought it was a symbolically important. it was a kind of show of force i think, from the top law enforcement official in the state, showing that he fully endorsed and supported this prosecution of this powerful figure. >> i never understood when the defenses crime scene person was saying that the shooter would've been stunned by what had just occurred. how could anybody know that? if somebody has the mental capacity to shoot somebody point blank, to people point blank, why does this person assume that they would be emotionally stunned by it? >> it was a theory based on his assumptions, based on his analysis of the crime scene, and the evidence of that physically how it happened. this is why we heard so much testimony about what the trajectory of the wound was, if

the bullets went first into the head or shoulders, because the defense theory about it being stunned, had to do with, as i understood it, kind of being a blow back from the, gun from the palettes, and also the tissue that would've come back on, and kind of that physical force. >> maybe being scarred by that. >> would've been more physically stunning as a posed to emotionally stunning. >> as we look at closing arguments, what are you hoping to see from the defense? how do you think this is going? >> the state needs to say factual. they need to support everything that they are suggesting happened with the forensics, and with the common sense approach to it. they need to go in there and say that we have proven the case here, even though they don't have great motive, there were some questions about how it happened, but that is why they need to be strong. on the other hand, the defense just has to prove some reasonable doubt. they have to suggest that there is no motive, no idea, and so the other thing that the state

may have overplayed their hand a bit on was that so much time was spent on the fraud, the financial, that you're going to see the closing argument from the defense that this is really a fraud case, and they're trying to turn it into a murder case. that is going to get some play with the jury. >> jessica, what do you think? >> i think the prosecution is actually going to hammer the timeline, i think they're going to talk a lot about the defendants lie about not being at the kennels, and continuing that lie until he was confronted. >> and that timeline issue, with the prosecutor brought up effectively before, when you lay out what the defense is suggesting based on the timeline, it does seem somewhat ludicrous. >> i think that's why the prosecution is going to hammer the timeline, to go to hammer the lie that is so critical, showing consciousness of guilt. i think they're going to say that the jury can't trust anything the defendant said on the stand because of his proven history of lying to so many people. this includes law enforcement, and includes partners, including partners that he stole from. >> mark, do you think that the timeline, as effective as it might have been from the prosecutor, is enough to overcome circumstantial evidence? >> i think it's going to be because as jessica said, the timeline is so insanely ludicrous to suggest that

somehow, somebody else within that very two minute period came in and created a murder, which there is no evidence to support, and blamed him for it. i do think that timeline is going to be the focus of the closing, and what we're going to hear again is that last few questions they were asked by the prosecutor and murdaugh, where he said that this is what you want to believe, and laid out an entire timeline, what turns out to be almost impossible to have occurred. that's where we're going to have the focus of the prosecution. >> think you both so much. we appreciate. it just ahead, the dodgers work on the eastern front in ukraine. >> this was a russian position, russian trenches. and how these guys are working through here, carefully, methodically, looking for mines, booby traps, and even ukrainian ordinance, those fired at the russians that were here. i think i'm ready for this. heck ya! with e*trade you're ready for anything. marriage. kids. college. kids moving back in after college.

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>> tonight, in ukraine, a possible new strategy in the eastern city of bakhmut, an economic adviser to president zelenskyy telling cnn that ukraine's military has thrown away all of the options when it comes to defending the city. this includes, quote, strategically pulling back if needed that's. what they call it. earlier today, zelenskyy warning that the toughest battle for ukraine is in bakhmut, and thousands of civilians remain, many cut off from humanitarian relief. the fight for the city, just one of many problems that ukraine faces. it's also the unexploded mines, over the last ukraine liberated from the russians. cnn's alex marquardt is in eastern ukraine with the story of the dangerous work being done there. >> the hulking armored minds here, lurching into an open field. over 40 tons, it spews exhaust, and tracks struggling across the muddy ground. following close behind, the mine clearance team, called sappers, they advanced deliberately, on the hunt for deadly explosives. this is delicate work. >> this was a russian position,

russian trenches. and now these guys are working through here carefully, methodically, looking for mainz, looking for booby traps, and even ukrainian ordinance, those fired at russians that were here. >> less of timber, a ukrainian counter offensive pushing the russians out of these trenches. now, connor maxi melnik's team has been charged with clearing any explosives. they've left many trips behind, and many of our brothers are have died, he says. russia does not obey international conventions, they put minds on top of minds. they leave booby traps, and use banned mines. >> russian and ukrainian mines are scattered throughout the eastern front, making ukraine one of the biggest minefields in the world. rockets and other explosives can often fail to detonate when

they land as well, all of it poses immense danger to civilians. >> ukraine's the an s s emergency service, like edward harris's ivanka, is a father of ten year old daughter, they are keenly aware of the danger. >> it is dangerous for everybody, he says, i would not say that we take more risks than others, everybody is taking risks now. he was the mining before the war started, seeing what russia has done to his country, it infuriates him. >> they are just animals, he says, there's no other way to describe them. he finds and carries an unexploded rocket propelled grenade to the side. he works day after day, all across this country, and the miners know how much they still have left to do. >> after the war, the soldiers get to go home, but your work

will continue for years. >> we will keep working for decades, colonel says, this will go on for decades. >> incredible work. our land mines also used by ukrainian armed forces? >> they are, anderson, and with quite a bit of effect. the land mines that have been planted all along the front lines by the ukrainians mainly have come from the u.s.. they've been donated by the thousands, and we have seen them used in the southeastern city of vuhledar, that we just came from a few days ago. ukrainians there, in managing to keep the russians at bay because of the minds they have been planting in the fields there. but that issue here, anderson, are anti personnel mines. these are banned under international humanitarian law. they are so indiscriminate. russia is not a party to the 1997 mine ban treaty, but ukraine's. that is why they've been called out by human rights watch, in a

recent report. they say that they have fired anti personnel mines into russian held areas, and russian military facilities, particularly in and around the city of izium. we were there earlier today, and it has now been retaken by the ukrainians. this is something that they say that ukrainians are doing, and it does not justify what russia is doing, of course, but human rights watch calling on ukraine to look into it. in response, ukraine did not deny that report. they said they will look into it, and of course, they say that they are exercising their right to defend themselves, but that russia, of course, is committed war crimes. anderson? >> alex marquardt in eastern ukraine tonight, thank you. as the war in ukraine rages on, many of vladimir putin's political enemies remain in prison. including navalny, who survived a poisoning attempt in 2020. a poisoning that cnn helped

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lost and what that means for the region as a whole? >> yeah, give you that perspective, anderson, you gotta consider the fact that the top of the world, the arctic is an ocean surrounded by continents. down, here at the bottom, it's a continent surrounded by oceans which complicate climate change as it has been observed for a long time, scientist thought it was somewhat immune to the effects because of the ice around the continent was growing. in 2014, it was about 7 million square miles but in less than ten years, the national snow and ice hunter out of colorado has confirmed that it has broken the record again. now, it is over 700,000 square miles. so, that is over 90% of that ice around antarctica that has disappeared in less than a decade, and the trend line is way disturbing because it makes the glaciers that hold all the land ice in place. we're not worried about the sea ice melting, it's like the ice cubes in your glass, it doesn't sway or drinks in when it melts. it's all that a lot of seismic outs in place by these dams, that'sci