the region as a whole? >> yeah, give you that perspective, anderson, you gotta consider the fact that the top of the world, the arctic is an ocean surrounded by continents. down, here at the bottom, it's a continent surrounded by oceans which complicate climate change as it has been observed for a long time, scientist thought it was somewhat immune to the effects because of the ice around the continent was growing. in 2014, it was about 7 million square miles but in less than ten years, the national snow and ice hunter out of colorado has confirmed that it has broken the record again. now, it is over 700,000 square miles. so, that is over 90% of that ice around antarctica that has disappeared in less than a decade, and the trend line is way disturbing because it makes the glaciers that hold all the land ice in place. we're not worried about the sea ice melting, it's like the ice cubes in your glass, it doesn't sway or drinks in when it melts. it's all that a lot of seismic outs in place by these dams, that's a glacier like the size

of florida. it's already holding on bites fingernails, but now with let's see ice protecting it, it just spells bad news. >> so how much of the mountain can be attributed to climate change? >> because it's so complicated, the weather systems and the southern ocean, they need at least another decade of data to say specifically empirically that this is what percentage is caused by planet cooking pollution, as, well but the trend lines are just so obvious. they had spikes in record high temperatures like the freakish month that we saw up in the arctic and greenland, they are starting to happen down here. as well, and this of course is a threat to qualities everywhere. >> yeah, bill weir, appreciate it. thank you! >> you bet! >> that's it for us tonight, jake tapper's one-on-one interview with bill weir starts now. >> and this era of tribal politics, bill maher doesn't care if you're a democrat or republican. >> to those, it's not always

pretty 50. >> it has given him a insight and political contended and bookies would die. for this into thousand 15. >> all those people who say donald trump could not go all the way, i don't think they are. right >> to this, just a few years later! >> i don't think he is leaving. even if he loses the election in 2020. >> tonight, bill maher look ahead to 2024 and trump's odds and now! >> do you think he's going to get the nomination and do you think he can beat joe biden? >> and marred as a pullback about president or the democrats either. >> democrats sometimes can take it too far. >> he gives us this unfiltered take. >> how do you define -- or of a weed? i think that's fair to say? >> i don't think it's very. bear >> from realtime the primetime, this is a cnn one-on-one special! >> ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ welcome to cnn primetime special, one-on-one with bill

maher. i'm jim tavern washington. that for my sick dowd who isn't afraid to take on, we'll, anything. bill maher has been a figure in the world of political comedy for more than 40 years and he doesn't seem to care who is in power or whether his opinions on popular. he still hits the road for a standup shows across the country and he is currently the host of real time with a meyer on hbo, which like, cnn's own by water brothers discovery. this, our you'll see mars takes bill maher on next week so the white house data comedy and what he calls cancel culture. but first, we talked about how he got started in comedy and how he has become the great predictor of donald trump. >> so thanks so much for doing this. >> hey. pleasure. >> a lot of people might not know that your dad was actually in the news because. >> yeah. >> your mom was a nurse but your dad was in the news because. i'm wondering how much you think that might have had an effect on the fact that you do

very news oriented comedy. >> tremendously. i think it was a great advantage, first of all, he was also funny in you'll find this a lot with comedians that company gene sort of just steps through a generation. i grew up in a house that was interested in the news and my parents talked about the news and i was aware of it and i don't think most kids were so those are my influences, comedy and news. and then what did i do? i wound up doing a show that it is a comedy show that uses the news as fodder. and i wish my father could've lived to see it. >> he passed away early? >> no but he saw me do johnny carr. he didn't see me do politically correct. >> what is your response when people tell you and you must hear this a lot, that they get that you are one of their primary sources of information? >> flattered. as it should be. [laughter]

is my response i feel like you are looking for something that is not slanted and i certainly have lost fans over the years because i don't say the things that please people all the time but that is my ultimate bond with the audience, and when i lose people it's like you are never meant to be with me in the first place. [laughter] >> yeah. >> we can't have a relationship >> there are a whole lot of people who are just continue to only hearing and only wanting to hear one side of the story. >> correct. they do not want to hear the other side and that is so ironic because when i started to be politically incorrect 30 years ago, 1993, everybody said you know, you cannot do a show like this. you are giving your opinions and that is not what took to host do, and they go and can't give their opinions. >> you will innately nate half the crowd. that is not what johnny carson did and it is not what -- david letterman did, or what jay leno did. i said well, let's give it a try. maybe the people are a little more sophisticated than you are giving them credit for and they can actually take it that a guy

who is on tv who they don't always agree with him, but they still like him, you don't always agree with people in your life on things. so did turn out that it was okay and here i am 30 years later. still on. but, i get every year, when we are looking for, maybe we want new writters on our show, we love the rioters i have but you know what, i'm running a business here. i am sorry. it is brutal but if i can find somebody better, that is what i am doing. i always serve the show first. so every year i've read these packets of proposed writers and i read them this year, as i do every year. it is just stunning! how uniform their points of view are. >> they hasn't always been that way? >> exactly. i don't remember, but i don't think was ever quite this bad. it is the exact same point of view on every single issue. and it is very predictable. i have a relationship with people who want to hear what i think is the truth. and i'm going to present both sides. and then they may not be fair and balanced.

they may not be equal weight put to each side. because that is not what the truth is. the truth isn't always 50/50. >> right. >> so uhm--i live with that. but it is, it gets more difficult because we are so tribal now. >> it is interesting, this comes after you know, five or six years of trump. where it isn't like you pulled punches against him at all. >> no. nobody was harder about that [laughter] man i don't think, and honestly, nobody was more, had their hair on fire about what was going to happen. as far as him not believing in democracy and not wanting to leave. >> i don't think he is leaving. even if he loses the election in 2020. he could lose by a landslide in 2020 and i still think he would say it is rigged, fake news, deep state. if trump loses the election in november he is not going to leave. [laughter] [applause] >> you are predicting that in 2018. >> 16.

before he was even president. >> he won't leave. >> he's never gonna leave if he loses. >> what made you think that? >> have you seen this man? [laughter] he has everything wrong with the human being. stuffed into one man. i mean, how could he ever do anything different? he is incapable, i think, of ever conceding defeat. and i have never seen him do it. so why would i think he would be gracious? ever in that situation. or say he ever lost. >> and he said it! i mean, even in 2016 when he was running. they would ask him point blank. would you -- well -- he is basically saying if we win then it is her election, if we don't then it is rigged. he would never actually just come out and say yes of course, this is america, this is how we do it. this is the jewel in our crown in our country. the peaceful transfer of power. nothing like that. >> you have been the great predictor of donald trump. you thought he would win, you thought he wouldn't leave peacefully. he is running. >> oh yeah. >> do you think he will get the

nomination? do you think he can beat joe biden? >> both. >> both you think formatively or both -- >> it could happen. first of all, it might not be joe biden. i think if it is biden against trump, biden will win. i do. not guaranteed, but i think that is a really good bet. it was the first time and i think it would be the second time even more so. >> even in age 82. >> yes. absolutely. first of all, i think that is a big red herring, at that his age is such a factor because you don't need to be young or spry to be president, and yes it is very helpful to run for president--to be energetic. look sharp at a debate. he can do the job of president perfectly fine. and i think he has done the job perfectly fine. do i love everything he has done? absolutely not. but you know, he is president. that goes with the territory. but generally, he has restored

normality, and got some things passed that nobody thought he could get through with this divided congress. he got out of afghanistan buddy stick the landing on that. no. but at least he did it. ukraine, he has done fine. and every other country in the world seems to have gotten this idea about the elderly. they are wise. that is what you need. i don't mind at all that he is 82 or 84, 86. yes, if he loses his marbles. but there are plenty of 86 -year-old people who have not lost their marbles. and people used to get that! we have an important decisions to make, go to the elders. they will tell you what the wise decision is. and then you young people will go and carry it out. he doesn't have to go to do every little thing. reagan didn't do everything. he went to bed at 4:30! so, that does not bother me at all. it will bother people because when you run for president, you get exposed, your flaws and yes, when you are in your 80s he's going to stumble --

he was always a gaffe machine to begin with. so it could look bad. but if it is trump against biden i think biden will win. but but if it is not by night i don't know. >> you talk about the democrats being so hindered by identity politics that the counter argument would be it has always been identity politics but is always been white people so people like you, and you did notice. now it is just an effort of inclusion which i think theoretically you support. >> yeah. i support it in fact. but i mean, you know, the democrats sometimes can take it to far or i would characterize liberal as different than woke. woke which started off as a good thing, alert to injustice -- who could be against that? but it became sort of an eye roll. because they love diversity except of ideas. and that is not really where we should be, they have a trail of very bad ideas. i would think. and wokeness.

>> how do you define wokeness? i hear people use the term all the time. it mean something different to everybody. >> again. i think it is this collection of ideas that are not building on liberalism. they're very often on doing it. i mean, five years ago, abraham lincoln was not a controversial figure on liberals. we liked him. [laughter] now they take his name off schools. and they tear down statues. really, lincoln isn't good enough for you? five or ten years ago, bedrock liberalism was; we are striving to be a color blind society where we don't see race--of course we see it but it doesn't matter. that is not what woke is. woke a something very different and it is identity politics and we see it all the time. it is always the most important thing. i don't think that is liberalism. i can mention so many issues like that. i remember doing that show on

hbo, comic relief for the homeless, and the idea then, again, among liberals i thought was, for the sake of compassion, can we get these people off the streets so they have a roof over their heads? and now it's like, how dare you try to move the homeless! [laughter] this is where they live. it's like, again, you change the definitions and then you say i am more conservative? i believe what i have always believed. you change these things and then you yell at me for it. >> up next, he got it right in 2016 and 2020. what is bill maher's take on trump 2024? >> if it's a bunch of people in their, they will sleep split the anti trump vote because trump has a very hard-core following. it is a cult. and cults don't ever go away. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ listening more than talking, and a personalized plan ♪ to guide you through a changing world. ♪

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democrats, kind of people who used to -- i think as a majority of the country. >> like hillary clinton and jeb bush. >> yeah. the debate people who never agreed on a of a lot but they found ways to work together. they don't hate each other. it wasn't -- all about making liberal tears and crying, all the stuff, and an owning and destroying people. it wasn't just, i don't agree with bob dole, what we can work together, we can get a ground bargain. that kind of stuff. and so i think that is the majority. but then you have trumpers. and then you have woke stirs. and those fringes are not doing this country any big favors. >> it's donald trump doing a favor for the country? too >> challenge for nomination. i mean, he is already being challenged by nikki haley and then there are other people like governor desantis and mike pompeo and others. vice president pence. do you think any of them can take him out? >> no. but i think what they will do isn't your him denomination.

>> by spreading all the alternatives? >> absolutely. >> the only way trump doesn't get the nomination is if it's just him and desantis. if it's a bunch of people in their, yeah, they will split the anti about because you know, trump has a very hard-core following. it is a called. colts don't ever go away. look at christiane italy! so, i despair about that, but i think about when they politician small the white house, they don't care about repercussions of the country. if you want to go for. it desantis against trump i think could get it. somebody said to me once, a conservative guy, he said the thing that you guys don't understand about as is that we don't really like trump. now that doesn't speak for all the trumpers. you definitely have some real fans! >> oh sure! >> but there is a lot of people that voted for him and that is their little secret. we don't like him either. we just vote for him because the stuff that you guys are doing on your fringe is scarier to us then what he is doing,

which is saying a lot. and i'm not quite with them, but i get it. i get it. >> yeah, it's also that he hates the same people that they hate, given if they don't agree with him. >> yes. and a lot of that he success them in their eye. >> do you think that desantis is part of the old school republican tripe? or do you think that he is more of a trump or two point oh? >> that's a great question! i don't know if he is playing a part or that really him. you know, he's the reason he so effective is he does two things at once. he can be a real old school republican who just takes care of business, you know? covid, the hurricane, stuff like that -- he just goes about his business. he doesn't do crazy stuff. but then when he wants to throw red meat to the base, he's a performance artist and he does a lot of really outrageous stuff. but i get it! that is where the party is. if you want a big future in that party and especially if

you want to take on donald trump, you've got to ride both of those horses at once. >> everybody keeps saying to me, but he has no personality! i don't think people care. like, a lot of politicians don't have personality. nixon had no personality. i made, i could have some politicians that absolutely have no personality. it is not a prerequisite. it is great if you have one! like obama had a great one! kennedy had a great one. but -- you know, biden is not, you know, james brown at the apollo exactly. [laughter] you know? i don't think that's going to hold rhonda sonders back. >> it's interesting, i met this couple from florida. liberal democrats. and then they told me how much they loved iran desantis. >> really? >> love him! as for the governors from florida -- from florida? >> yes they were from florida! >> and florida people like. and >> he won the election with almost 80% of the vote. >> also, while the rest of the country was overdoing covid, florida, i was there during covid.

it with night and day from this place. and, you know, i am not one who was ever on the page with covid paranoia. so, i thought it was a breath of fresh air. and the people there, when they would visit me here sometimes they would say, oh my god! and the middle of the pandemic. what are you people living like this? and so on necessary. we don't like this. >> right. >> and it turned out a lot of what rhonda status did was smarter for the people that were criticizing were saying. he kept the beaches open, yes, you're not gonna get outside. and fact, it is good. get some fresh air and sometime tied. it would be better for you. and also protecting the elderly. it was much more targeted. just sort of the opposite of what happened and new york state. >> next, he's an outspoken critic of what he calls cancel culture, but as someone with a history of controversial comments himself, does bill maher think his clock is ticking? >> anybody in this era can absolutely fall off the ledge at any moment. in two seconds, i could get counseled! anybody could!

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i screwed up. mhm. i got us t-mobile home internet. now cell phone users have priority over us. and your marriage survived that? you can almost feel the drag when people walk by with their phones. oh i can't hear you... you're froze-- ladies, please! you put it on airplane mode when you pass our house. i was trying to work. we're workin' it too. yeah! work it girl! woo! i want to hear you say it out loud. well, i could switch us to xfinity. those smiles. that's why i do what i do. that and the paycheck. i screwed up. mhm. i got us t-mobile home internet. now cell phone users have priority over us. and your marriage survived that? you can almost feel the drag when people walk by with their phones. oh i can't hear you... you're froze-- ladies, please! you put it on airplane mode when you pass our house. i was trying to work.

we're workin' it too. yeah! work it girl! woo! i want to hear you say it out loud. well, i could switch us to xfinity. those smiles. that's why i do what i do. that and the paycheck. >> the oath of office i took was the comedy. [laughter] and if you do goofy [bleep], and the spectrum, i'm going to make fun of you, because that's where the gold is! >> what is it like to be a canadian in this era? is it more difficult? do you audiences but you at times when you're not ready to boo you? are you surprised? >> it's always possible. i mean it's interesting, my studio audience at realtime [laughter]

always booed me. not for most of the show but they were definitely more woke than i was. and definitely more sensitive. i would ask all the time, why these are the people that claim that they flew all the way across the country and they waited for months to get tickets to the show, they are my fans, then they come here and say urgh-- something about when you get in public is that you have to put on this act that you are somehow more of a moral person than you really are--not that i'm doing anything immoral but that you have to react in a certain way to things that are politically incorrect -- [laughter] the show is called realtime. and then about five years ago, i don't know what they did with the audience but they got rid

of the groan-ers. and then some people would say, well i message as he used to fight with the audience. maybe you do but i don't. but i was never one of those comics who could just pretend, i am sorry, i must have made a mistake there. no. i didn't make a mistake. there is nothing wrong with that joke. stop groaning. get this dick out of your butt. i must have said that 20 times on my show. and then when the pandemic came around, we didn't have many -- and when we came back, we were allowed to have half the audience. because of social distancing. and again, they just weed it out the people who were groaning. i would say in the last three or four years, i have never had that problem again. it is such a pleasure. my audience who comes to my show now understands me, they think like me, they have open minds. they are not woke. they are generally liberal but they can be conservative too. and we have a great time. there is no groaning. i love it. on the road, it was always that

way. people who pay are paying a good penny for her ticket price to see a standup show. you generally want you to be exactly who you are. so it was always pretty hard, i mean as i was pretty high to get people to, grown on the road, but i could do it. to get people who grown on the road. but any comic in this era, anybody can absolutely fall off the ledge at any moment. it just makes me -- laughing people say to me, you are unconscionable! in are you kidding? i can get cycle -- canceled any minute! >> who were those that walk you through this path where you are not afraid to say what you think? >> karlen was the main one who did that and the era where i was growing up. and thinking about being a comedian when i was a kid. he was the guy, when i was very little, he was, you know, just a suit and tie short haircut,

doing funny stuff, but not controversial. then he had that big turnaround around 1970 when i was 14. so, this was very formative for me. i already knew that i wanted to be a comedian. so, to see a guy do that, suddenly hit long hair, and he had seen -- was wearing a t-shirt, and was challenging the establishment, and saying bold things. he did that for the rest of his life. i didn't always agree with them. he said some really where things. he was not an environmentalist, for example. but he never pulled the punch. and he, you know, i remember one special -- his first or opening line, i cannot say the word, but it's a word that begins with f. and it was f [laughter] f lance armstrong. and this was when f land -- when armstrong was at a spigot! before the fall. this was his opening line. and he said, don't tell me who

my heroes are! don't tell me why he was a sports bag. don't dictate that to me! >> yeah. >> i love that! [laughter] >> and you must of met karlen emmalena times. >> i'm a few times. he was on the, show my ochoa couple of times. and i understand why. he had a shared a stage with three other people. there were not up to his intellectual caliber. so, he didn't do that a lot. i mean we were not contemporaries so i don't really know him at all, but i did speak at his memorial. and i was proud to be there. >> so, i hear a lot about comedians being too afraid to perform in a new environment, but at the same token, i say dave chappelle still doing very well. >> yeah. >> there's one thing, and i want to get your reaction to something, because obviously chappelle has been criticize a lot of haze making fun of transgender for the transgender community. this is what dave across. as i did cause a pretty

edgecomb unity -- comedian. >> great canadian, yes! >> and he's not talking about you or chappelle in this quote. but as a people that make the kind of joke making fun of transgender, he said you're positioning yourself as there's voice up, you can cancel, me can't silence me, for what? you're trump drawback about -- is not important you? just move on. don't hurt hundreds of thousands of people. it is a true choice people make. >> i thought that was an interesting quote. i guess the larger criticism of chappelle from people like david krause is that he is punching down. not like what karlen, did punching up. what do you think? >> i don't really agree. i think the trans community is asking for too much. again, the difference between liberal and woke. liberals are people who i think would say i certainly would, trans is of course a real thing. you know, some people are just, they probably don't like this to her mom-ology but born in

the wrong body. the equipment doesn't match how you feel. [laughter] absolutely! it is great we live in a time where people like that can freely live the lives they should live. with all the dignity and protection of the law that we can afford -- like anybody else in society, i think that is a liberal point of view. the woke point of view is something very different. like -- while babies are born now and just jump all, we don't know what they are. congratulations, you have a boy! >> well it's not a hasty. there's a, that could be an indication of a male, but it's just [laughter] really we'll find out later. and we couldn't get rid of it! i mean it's not wrong to have this discussion. this is something that is very new! >> yeah. >> it's not a shot -- to shut down debate with these words like phobia! you are a phobic! i mean we don't hate! there is no hate! it's not phobic, we are not afraid -- we are just discussing something very new that involve children, and what these interventions you are making

half repercussions for the entire rest of their lives. and they are about to help. i think it should come first. >> so -- i think of a trans activist, or here right now, they might say that we are not afraid of having discussions and debates. but you are talking about these issues at a time when a states like idaho, florida, and others, are talking about banning these procedures, regardless of what the kit and the parents, and the doctor winds. >> well that's a back -- >> and that's a bigger issue than the term of pregnant people. >> well that's probably a backlash that went too far. and i think that is. to completely ban it. but also, i don't agree with what you just said. they absolutely do want to shut down debate -- >> next on cnn prime time, he's given 1 million dollar political donations in the past, so will bill maher open his wallet again? >> i remember my manager saying -- couldn't you just get 500,000?

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instead of giving and i voted sticker to the people who did vote, let's make the people who didn't vote where one that says i couldn't be bothered. >> the way you talk, i wonder if you are going to be as involved politically in 2024 as you have been -- i remember you giving millions

of dollars to help break obama get elected. >> gave 1 million dollars to obama i'm happy i did that. it was the first year -- pro obama when i felt like at the moment people had not gotten the memo that we are playing on a completely different field than we ever were before. anybody can get any amount of money somebody has to ring the bell here. and say look, we are at the million dollar level. remember his manager saying couldn't you just get 500,000. i said no. the million dollars gets people's attention. especially for someone who is not a billionaire. 1 million dollars hurt. i wasn't driving it over but it hurt. but i thought it was so important the first black president get reelected. almost more important than being elected. he could not be --

>> mitt not about red mineral. many i wasn't a bit big fan but i -- instead of donald trump. but no because it was about making sure the first black president gets a fair shake. and he gets reelected. otherwise people would've said oh, we try to black president and it didn't work. he was the perfect first black president. i think one of our greatest presidents. >> thank you so much. you did hold a job. and then i gave chuck schumer who came around in 2018 and said, i think they can retake the senate. if you give me 1 million dollars. and i know you better before. i did it again. that time i walked back. because it didn't work. and yeah. now of course every democrat and politician is always calling me out. >> you are the easy touch. -- are going to get involved? do you think it's important for democrats? for democrats to control the senate?

>> if it's trump running? the problem is i don't think money works anymore. i don't think it matters. trump built hillary instantly way less. he was just smarter he didn't saturate the airwaves with commercials like she did. i've been in markets when i'm on the road -- i'm in a hotel for literally 18 hours. and i see the same commercials 50 times. i didn't even know who the candidate was. but i hated them. it could work the other way around. trump saved all his money any put on this great commercial. he this hour-long commercial. the day before the election. that was very effective. people saw that. >> a lot of facebook ads. a lot of internet stuff. >> and of course he was also the sky that america had come to think of us this genius businessman. he was on the apprentice. i can't even go into it. but look. if i thought 1 million dollars would've stopped on al trump for being president again then yes i would get out my checkbook again. >> were you despondent when

trump was elected? did you think this isn't the country i thought it was? >> i was afraid for my own well-being. i thought i could wind up in guantánamo bay. i think i still could. he was ranting about me all last week. he is obsessed sometimes. i don't know. he went on a terror for eight months when he was president. every time he had a rally. i have a list of three pages long of the things he has called me. >> phil maher. everybody know bill maher? he is a radical left maniac with modest television ratings. modest. >> depressed nut job. low ratings sleeps back. and he was doing it again last week. he doesn't like that i am on cnn. i don't know why that gets to him. he doesn't like -- >> he's doing it now? >> he's doing it now. yes. he doesn't like that. -- or in a rally.

he doesn't like that fox quotes me. when fox coats me. of course, fox will watch for my shows. 90% of it might be something they hate but they take out of it. they do the even liberal bill maher. that's what they do every time. >> if the preface it by saying look, we hate the sky, he is awful but the he said one good thing. and trump -- i don't know. so i am afraid of trump on a very personal level. i don't think he likes me. i understand why. and i don't know what he would do in the second term. he is obviously somebody who does not know any boundaries. and you have to worry when you see what's other authoritarian rulers do in other countries to people. and not thinking he's going to become putin and start pushing people out windows. but i won't live on the 30th floor anywhere either. >> why do you think he obsesses

about you so much? do you think you long for your approval? >> no. i cannot get into his head. i just think he is immediate creature. he doesn't read. he only looks at television. every time he quotes me, he always says i was watching the show accidentally. >> right. >> i mean. >> but he just stumbled on hbo. i don't know how that happened. >> he is not aware of what a preposterous figure he is. >> ahead on this cnn primetime special. >> you can believe in the spaghetti monster, whatever god you want, whatever myth you want. we don't care. we just want to be left alone. and not castigated. >> bill maher's take on religion and whether or not he considers himself an aggressive atheist. a mystery! jessie loves playing detective. but the real mystery was her irritated skin.

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therefore get rid of evil in the world? >> he will. >> he will? what's he waiting for? >> i know you're not a religious guy. in fact, you are an aggressive atheist. >> [laughter] no, not aggressive. i've used it for comedy fotter certainly. i think one really good movie caught religious less, i made one really good movie in my life which was called, many funny, mean-spirited about religious. but evs, somehow the idea that we are aggressive or want to proselytize. that is what religion does. we are the opposite. we don't care. we don't care. you believe whatever you want to believe. you can believe in the spaghetti monster, you can believe in whatever god you want, whatever myth you want. ee and not castigated for it. and d ke a little representation. i mean, the supreme court is somehow now six and a half catholics. >> six and a half?

>> one of them i think is gorsuch, one of them is like a episcopalian, or was raised, catholic but i mean, that is not good representation. talk about diversity. how about diversity that really matters? diversity of thought. i think there's one or two people in the entire congress. >> oh, i think there's more than that. >> and they'll say it? >> that's like saying in the 1950 house there were no gay people. >> yeah there were, they're just run out. >> i've a sneaky feeling obama is not really a super christian like he said. he used to say, well, the first thing in the morning i get scripture on my blackberry. really? >> well, somebody sent it to him. >> somebody sent it to him, okay. he said my mother was a humanist, wink wink, humanist. i mean, look. >> but your dad with catholic, your mom was jewish? >> yes, i was raised catholic. i went through the rigmarole. i paid my dues, jack. >> agnosticism makes more sense to me, the idea that, look, i have no idea. that makes more sense to me

that it is -- >> the same thing, almost. >> atheism is there's nothing there. >> no, no, you're wrong. atheism means atheism. >> i have no beliefs? >> no, the-ism is the belief in god. i preached the gospel of i don't know. >> i think that's agnostic is what that is? >> again, you're splitting hairs. you are getting hung up on the terms. even richard dawkins, the famous atheist, says on a scale of 1 to 7, where seven would be total certainty that there is no god, i am a 6. 9. because we don't know. because there are so many questions we can answer. of course, and i allow for that. of course but, what an atheist says is yes there are questions we can't answer, like how did we get here. but what we don't do is make up stories to say how we got here.

>> all of this is just a preface for me to say, if your dad is out there somewhere watching this, i think he would be happy about you being on cnn. >> [laughter] >> i think he would. i think as a news man, i think he would say. >> if he's watching? >> whatever, i don't know how it works. >> we don't know how it works. but i doubted it's that. >> we don't know. but it's nice to think. >> a 6. 9. >> but it doesn't make any sense for him to be we're here and we're not. and it's all just poof, to me, it does make any sense. >> but it seems to be the case. [laughter] >> there's no evidence to the contrary, but that doesn't mean the seems to be the case. >> correct. >> and if we use 10% of our brains only, there is 90% we don't know about. >> well when you are, dad it is, gone and we are being eaten by warm. so i would not count on that. >> after the break, forget politics, comedy, and live shows. bill maher reflects on one of his favorite hobbies. >> so, you're a connoisseur of weed i think that's fair to say.

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how i got through cornell. i mean, i was selling it. >> those were cold winters in ithaca, yeah. >> yeah, i would've never gone through college without that money wise. >> oh, selling it, you mean? >> yeah. [laughter] let's just say i was ahead of my time, because it's legal now. but it was like pressed into this brick. and it was gold! i've never seen pot that look that way. and i never had a high like that. i've never seen it again. but if anybody out there [laughter] turned me in the right direction, i enormously appreciate it. >> but it wasn't all smoke at the bar. i also wanted to know who he looks up to most, his inspiration. and i was surprised by his answer. >> who is your hero, other than ben karlyn, who is your hero then someone you look up to? >> george washington. >> seriously? [laughter] >> why is that even a question? >> because it seems like a very

earnest answer. >> because your bill maher, george washington? >> but now that he is sort of semi cancel as well. >> that's not why i meant it. it's just i don't expect you. like he said rutherford b. hayes, i would've been surprised too. i just was not expecting it. i was, you know, expecting someone in the world that you live. >> oh, i see. well, -- >> i would have been more surprised by bob hope and george washington. >> bob hope was not a good guy. >> i know, that's why i'm saying. >> i mean, when i was a kid it wasn't george washington, it was johnny carson, that's who i wanted to be. i wanted to be johnny carson and james bond. >> why george washington-- now? >> because he's the father of our country now. >> father of the country. also the willingness to only do two terms. >> exactly, that. first of all, leading the -- keeping the country alive. you know, he only fought when he was the general. so, he only fought nine battles and only won three. he understood that he's not going to beat that british army. he just had to keep the army

existing. he just had to keep them alive. so, he was always running away. and also, yes then gave up the crown when he could've gone the other way. and also, he was so presient -- he was the one who said political parties are going to be the death of us. once we get into that kind of factional thinking. and look at all these years later, that's really how it turned out. >> you can catch more bill during realtime with bill maher every friday night i-10 pm on hbo. and his post show segment, overtime, which airs right here on cnn fridays at 11:30 pm eastern. i'll see you back here tomorrow on the lead. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> hello, and welcome to our viewers joining us here in the united states and all around the world. i'm rosemary church. just ahead on cnn newsroom, epic snowfall