the only way that the airspace system can handle more flights and full flights is by getting them off the runway faster. so they need to slow these things down and get back to what is a sensible rate when we talk about departures. it may delay it. it may be where you can't get the flights you want to have at this point. but they have to do something about trying to slow this system down. >> so you're just sitting there. you have no control. you don't know what's going to happen. you don't hear from the air traffic control folks. you don't know what's going on. all of these near misses.

>> i'm buckling up more on flights before. >> you didn't buckle up? >> always. >> tighter. >> on a flight. >> yeah. well, you know, i mean, this is a big problem. good morning, everyone. welcome to "cnn this morning." we have to talk about another alarming close call at one of america's biggest airports between a private jet and a jetblue flight coming in for a landing. that makes five close calls in just two months. that's way too many. i don't think it's normal. we're going to check. the faa have a serious problem on their hands? we'll break it down. also to chicago and the mayoral race there. chicago's mayor lori lightfoot lost re-election. didn't even advance to the runoff. rising crime a dominant issue. what does her defeat mean big picture? and a rare bipartisanship in washington. the new house select committee on china is vowing to investigate beijing's threat to america. is it all talk? can they deliver action here?

we'll talk to af de democrat ont committee. >> lots to come in this hour. we begin with another -- yet another disaster at one of america's busiest airports. the faa is now investigating five near misses between planes in just two months. five near misses between planes in just two months. latest close call was in boston. it happened on monday night. air traffic controllers stopped a private jet from taking off and running into a jetblue flight that was coming in for a landing. comes weeks after a fedex cargo plane nearly landed on top of a southwest flight in austin, texas. federal investigators say they were both cleared to take off and land on the same runway. the fedex pilot was the one who told the southwest crew to abort. they came within 100 feet of each other. just weeks ago, there was a close call in honolulu. the ntsb says a united airlines flight crossed a runway in front of a cargo plane that was

landing. and days before that, an american airlines jetliner crossed a runway where a delta airlines flight was taking off at new york's jfk airport. we're on top of the story with the latest on this close call. one is way too many. now we have a series. what is going on, pete? >> why all the incidents are coming to light right now? the ntsb not investigating this one just yet. we have very key and clear details from flight radar 24 that revealed preliminary details that say the two flights came within 560 feet of each other. this was a very close call. >> reporter: it is the latest incident of a major collision at a airport, a jetblue flight and a private jet nearly running into each other on crisscrossing runways at boston logan international airport. >> this was a mistake made by the pilot. it was caught by air traffic

control which is their job. they were able to catch it. >> reporter: the federal aviation administration says as jetblue flight was coming in to land on runway four right, the leer jet took off from the intersecting runway. air traffic control recordings detail the pilot of the jetblue flight being directed to abort its landing. the faa classifying the move as evasive action. >> worse yet, the faa says the learjet did not have takeoff clearance. instead, the crew was told to line up and wait on the runway for the landing jetblue flight. the faa says the learjet pilot read back instructions clearly but began a takeoff rollin stead. air traffic control brought the jetblue flight back in for a landing all onboard unharmed. >> the pilots did a really

incredible job. we came in. waits a scary situation. it was smooth. it wasn't like it was a jolting experience. i wasn't a jerky experience. we went back up in the air and landed. >> the incident is the fifth of the type this year following similar close calls at new york's jfk, austin, honolulu and burbank. last month the faa's acting administrator told congress that recent events remind us we must not being complaisant and voued a sweeping safety review. >> there is a lot of pressure right now in our airspace. we need to make sure that our regulatory system is as safe as it can be. that the aviation system is safe as it can be. >> the faa tells me it will determine how close these flights actually came to one another. let's put this in context, don. 560 feet, we're talking less than two football fields. the ntsb not investigating this just yet.

got news here is that the safety system did work. the controller noticed that problem. averted that collision. averting disaster. don? >> wow. pete, thank you. also this morning, the biden administration is maintaining it does have the power to forgive student loan debt. this is during oral arguments at a high stakes heearing before te supreme court yesterday. several justices appeared skeptical of the government's authority to be able to discharge millions of dollars in loans. the conservative justices seem very skeptical that the biden administration has the power to do this. >> good morning, kaitlan. there were two main themes that emerged from the right side of the bench. just in terms of overreach. what is at issue here? 2003 law passed in the wake of

9/11. several justices said, you know, you're talking about nearly half a trillion dollars here, more than 43 million borrowers. how does that just involve modifying loans? and said the statute, you suggested and other conservatives that, the statute wouldn't allow it. this statute is clear in terms of giving the secretary of education authority. that's what emergencies are all about. but then the other issue is fairness, kaitlan. the chief and others and neil g g g goresich, how is the federal government going to be able to take advantage of taxpayer money to pay it back when someone who was not even able to have the opportunity for college, it will

be without and essentially have not the same kind of earning power. let's listen to neil gorsich on that topic now. >> . >> so kaitlan, there were a range issues from the conservatives. one last thing i'll mention is there a gateway question of whether the states and the two borrowers who weren't eligible for the loans are able to even bring the case. and that's where the liberals really tried to make a case here that they -- the full court should not reach the merits. that's one thing the biden administration can cling to here. >> joan, as you know as well as

i do, washington is divided. democrats control the senate and republicans the house. one take away i notice is they seem to also just cast doubt on the idea of executive power overall. how far biden can go. that would limit what he can do going forward in this term in office. >> that's exactly right, kaitlan. we saw in the recent years this court reigning in what the biden administration had to try to do in other covid-19 types of cases and then just last year, kaitlan, i know you're recalling the epa case when the justices by a 6-3 vote limited what the biden administration can do to protect air quality. so this is a real theme here of this court. mirroring what the polarization we see in the other branches that this court just really is trying to put the hammer down on regulatory power and executive

branch power, particularly now that we have joe biden in the white house. >> yeah. it's fascinating to see what happens. of course, so many people's lives hang in the balance on this. joan, great reporting. great jacket color this morning, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> aligned on all fronts. this morning an update for you. fbi director christopher ray making his first public comments about the fbi's covid lab leak theory. this is a new interview in which ray says it has been the fbi's assessment for some time that virus, quote, most likely originated in a chinese government controlled lab. >> the fbi has folks, agents, professionals, analysts, virologists, micro biologists, et cetera, who focus specifically on the dangers of biological threats which include things like novel viruses like covid. and the concerns that in the wrong hands some bad guys,

hostile nations say a terrorist, a criminal, the threats those could pose. here you're talking about a potential leak from a chinese government controlled lab that killed millions of americans. that's precisely what that capability was designed for. >> just days ago, the department of energy said they have concluded with, quote, low confidence that the virus emerged from a lab in wuhan. a chinese official responded to that saying the u.s. report stops stirring up argue ams, s stop smearing china. >> a race that democrats should be paying close attention. to i'll tell you why in a moment. there will be no second term for chicago mayor lori lightfoot. she lost her bid for re-election on tuesday. failing to finish in the top 2 for a runoff election. here's why. democrats should be concerned. voters are expressing growing concerns about crime in one of the nation's largest cities and doing it all over the country in the largest cities. this is the first time in more than three decades that chicago

has voted a sitting mayor out of office. watch. >> obviously, we didn't win the election today. but i stand here with my head held high and a heart full. and regardless of tonight's outcome, we fought the right fights and we put this city on a better path. no doubt about it. >> it's going to be between paul vallas a public schools chief and brandon johnson a cook county commissioner and chicago teachers union. they'll advance in an april runoff to replace lightfoot. house speaker kevin mccarthy's office says he'll allow defendants facing people to access security video footage from that day. house republicans are defending that move and claiming it's a way to ensure due process. we're live from capitol hill. good morning. is this a follow on to his

agreement to give all of the unedited footage to tucker karlsson of fox news. >> yeah. kevin mccarthy promised to release this footage to win over his right flank. he has not released this to the media, we've also learned that cnn, the house administration committee has started making accommodations so that lawyers for january 6 defendants can start coming in and view this footage. it was an issue that came up in court. kevin mccarthy has defended that move. he said it's important in the name of transparency and due process. he also claimed that speaker nancy pelosi also gave access to defendants for january 6. they charge that her office denies. this does come amid a broader debate on capitol hill about who should and should not have access to the january 6 footage. mccarthy agreed to give the exclusive to fox news host tucker karlsson. someone who down played the insurrection. he spread conspiracy theories about it. and that caused concern not just among democrats but even among some republicans.

and so we learned that yesterday kevin mccarthy behind closed doors to worked to assure members that security would not be compromised with the release of the video. they are trying to work with capitol police to make sure that vulnerabilities are not expoexposed. he promised that others will get access to the footage and it will take time. thank you. >> quite a development. >> yeah. all right. up next, we're going to talk about whether or not fox news's billionaire owner rupert murdoch and his testimony creates a crisis for the next work. what does it mean? we have the first amendment guru floyd abrams and a former trump insider here to break it down and their perspective next. when you have chronic kidney disease. there are places you'd like to be. like h here.

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business this morning after that explosive legal filing that came into public view this week. these are some of the biggest revelations if you missed it. the billionaire owner rupert murdoch conceded that four of the main hosts on the airwaves including shawn hannity and lou dobbs endorsed false statements. they said they would have been stronger in denouncing the lies in hindsight. half of what trump is saying is bs and damaging. he also admitted hannity was, quote, privately disgusted by trump but scared to lose viewers. fox's legal team says the quotes coming out don't tell the full story. they call the lawsuit dubious and cited the first amendment as a defense. joining us to talk about this is renowned first amendment attorney lloyd abrams. floyd, i want to start with you. you, who have argued before the

supreme court many times, you fw believe this is land mark case. >> i think it's an extremely threatening case to fox. i think it's a very important case. there hasn't been one, i would say, involving media, not just broadcast. which so threatened the legitimacy of an enormous player in terms of informing the american public. >> do you think on that point that it could have the potential to move the malice bar? is that what you're saying? >> no. i think i'm -- on that front it's just ironic that it's the conservatives. >> the other way around. >> that want to move the bar. i don't think it will be -- i'm hopeful at least it's not going to be moved.

fox is quite understandably clutching to it:it's a raft in a sea. it's very important to their defense. >> let's get to that. i want to talk about the audience here. you're making the point that we talked about earlier in our conversation where i said this was -- this has more than just an impact on what happens with fox news. what will the viewers think? that's all very important. but this is first amendment. freedom of the press. you have a news organization allegedly in collusion with political players here lying to their audiences, potentially, or at least in many people's eyes and court's eyes. starting an insurrection. there is so much at stake here. as you said this is one of the biggest cases involving the media than i can remember in recent history. this is not just small potatoes. >> no.

it's big time. look, fox is big time. the amount of viewers it has, the impact it has on the public. and here's a case -- i can't help but think that any new lawyer and i'll bet any of the old lawyers said to someone at fox maybe this will be a good case to put behind you. maybe there is some way to set this will consistent with rationality? i mean if they're asking for blank, of course, you won't do it. >> why isn't that happening? >> i don't think we know. if i had to guess, i'll bet there had been talks. i don't know that. it's inconceivable to me that as savvy, whatever else one says about the fox people, as savvy as they are that it hasn't occurred to them that they would really be in much better shape if they could just say we paid

the money. we didn't do anything wrong. but, you know, it's over. >> yeah. >> you worked in the trump white house. you know the influence and communication that there often was between trump himself and trump officials. what do you think about the political fallout? despite having direct insight, i was very shocked to hear about -- to read about rupert murdoch sharing an ad with a former white house adviser. i didn't know about that. i would be surprised if that was something that was widely known. take for example they would like to host a primary debate. who is to say that fox won't put the finger on the scale in favor of the candidates that gets them the best ratings. this comes down to, there is a quote where he said it is not red or blue, its green. it's about making money. so there is a lot of potential fallout, i think, for both the

fox audience and the people who consume that information. but also this is a scary part. most fox viewers are not going to hear about. this they're not aware. i've been texting family members in that space just -- are you aware of this? do you know you're being lied to? >> let's play howard kurtz, a fox employee who anchors the media show every week. here's what he said about being muzzled. here he was. >> some of you have been asking why i'm not covering the dominion voting machine lawsuit against fox involving the unproven claims of election fraud in 2020. it's absolutely a fair question. i believe i should be covering it. it's a major media story given my role here at fox. but the company decided that as part of the organization being sued, i can't talk about it or write about it at least for now. >> they don't know. they're not going to hear about it. >> and good for howard kurtz for teg telling the truth. people have been penalized or asked by senior people

executives to penalize people. i think if a very serious reporter at fox who is just trying to do her job fact checki checking it takes bravery to go on the airwaves and say they're muzzling me. >> he covers the media. do you think that -- is that ligit? ? there is so much at stake here. we can't have you discussing just in case just because? sh. >> anything he says will be held against them. i get why they don't want him to speak. that then goes into brief of dominion. as even the fox's own ex has said that. and acknowledge that.

and they're in a situation now where almost any commentary and e-mails or the like which surely they must have learned by now that they are turned over in litigation. they're suffering from what they said to each other in writing. it is harmful to them and the litigation. and it's not -- i said this and then someone else said, i don't remember it that way. here it is. this is what they said. they're able to be enough -- >>, no i was going to say. donald trump is a big part of this. he started to create the narrative after he spread the he lies that news max is where we should go. what america news network is where true believers are going.

so there was a sense of fear within fox that they were going to lose market share to the outlets. the reality is that they never even picked up enough that in major way affected the very high viewership that fox news had. you can just see the fear he instilled in the big time hosts, the prime time hosts. and i just want to say, there is a lot of really good journalists at fox. i don't have any major problems. prime time is where they make the money. it descended into conspiracy mongering. it is basically anything to get people to tune in and drive viewership. >> wow. that's interesting that not even a straight forward news story about this is what is happening, dominion is accusing fox news and fox news responded this way. it could be a straight forward news story without any commentary. >> they don't want it to exist. >> it does. >> my favorite abrams. i would say don't tell dan. please tell dan.

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the fighting in ukraine this morning is intensifying in the east as russia is conducting relentless attacks. soldiers are describing a worsening situation on the ground. russian forces are continuing to apply pressure as they've been working to capture the city. we're there. 4500 civilians including

children in the region. the ukrainian military has not made a decision to withdraw from the city. of course that, is a major question this morning. we're live in eastern ukraine. alex, what are we seeing on the ground? i know this is something that russia has been pursuing and pursuing and pursuing. what does it look like right now? >> fierce fighting, no more so than thr city. this is where the most difficult fighting is taking place. the ukrainian defensive positions are just getting pounded by russian forces. he says the russians are taking significant casualties. we know that ukrainians are as well. and this morning, kaitlan, a spokesman for the ukrainian military here in eastern ukraine says no decision has been made about whether to pull back from the city. it is clearly something that they are considering at this point as the russians press forward, as they try loop around the city and circling ukrainian forces in and around the city.

the russian forces at the front are the most experienced mers on aries. fighters that have seen combat elsewhere like in syria and in libya. and, kaitlan, we did speak with a ukrainian soldier inside the city yesterday who said that the situation is 100% more difficult than ukrainian officials are willing to admit. the same soldier saying that they're not going to give the city up without a fight. they're standing their ground as long as they can. kaitlan? >> yeah. standing as long as they k we'll see how long that is. if they do withdraw. or if russia does take the city, alex. what is -- explain to people why that matters. why is that such a big deal for russia? >> it would be a hugely symbolic victory. right now it doesn't look like it would shift the battlefield all that much. there are two things that ukraine is trying to do right now. if russia were to take bakhmuit.

if they take the city, they're week bed and won't be able to advance past that. at the same time, we know that ukraine is preparing a counter offensive. they do plan in the coming weeks to try to push forward to reclaim territory from the russians. we don't know when or where that is going to take place. but that is something that is very much in the works. kaitlan? >> all right. alex, please stay safe and keep us updated. even as this part of northern hemisphere is experiencing a record warm winter, scientists are warning that the sea ice around antarctica is -- has dropped to the lowest level. breaking the record set just last year. look at that on your screen h

so -- and now sea ice is at the lowest level since satellite started monitoring the levels in 1979. our chief climate correspondent joins us from the southern tip of argentina. you have to admit, it is beautiful. i'm not talking about you. you're okay. but look at that. >> it's nothing. >> it's gorgeous. >> i'm nothing compared to this don. who knew? >> yeah. >> who knew the end of the world would be so gorgeous. check out the most beautiful soccer pitch in the world. right over there. . that some guy's yard. that is fit for lionel messy here in argentina. that island in the distance is the chilean national park. on the other side of that issant ark it ticka. i'm about to get on a bowl with a whale scientists and go on an adventure. we have this news out of national snow and ice center in colorado. for the second year in a row, the south pole is shrinking. ice down here is shrinking.

it is sea ice. it's not affecting sea level rise. much the way that when the ice in your glass melt, they don't spill the drink. but it is very worrying because antarctica is a continent surrounded by oceans. p that sea ice protects the ice shelves from unlocking all that ice which if it dumps into the oceans en masse would rearrange every city from miami to shanghai along the coast around the world. so what is troubling about this is the speed that it's declining. just to give you perspective, in early 2000, it looked like antarctica is growing as the arctic was shrinking in alarming ways. scientists were not sure. and in 2014, the sea ice around antarctica, seven million square miles. now less than a decade later, it's under 700,000 square miles. that's 90% drop. they're worried this is a tipping point that makes that vulnerable and on from there, it's just one domino after another.

a disaster we don't want to imagine but have to think about, especially for people, leaders who live on coasts. >> is there anything that can be done to really slow this horrible extreme situation down? >> it's the same answer as has been for generations. the faster we can move away from fuel that's burn, the speediest and most equitable way possible, the less horrible this gets. that's the only way right now. not only stopping it at the source but carbon removal is going to be the biggest industry you've never heard of as people come to grips with the enormity of this. but to put this in perspective, antarctica was discovered 40 years after the planet uranus. it is so remote and harsh. we're just now understanding it. when they send the robots that look like torpedos under the big ice shelves and see that they're hanging on by finger nails, we

have to pay attention to something that seems to far away. >> you're so right. when you look at our planet. it's so beautiful. you live in a unique, wonderful place. we have to do something to preserve it. look how beautiful that is. bill, thank you. >> great. all right. coming up, a rare demonstration of unity across the island. congress last night as lawmakers warn of the threat posed to china as house select committee on china held first hearing. congressman multon is one of the lawmakers and he's here next.

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eesz communist party. waits a really rare demonstration of unity across the aisle in congress. increasingly divided congress on partisan lines. listen to this. >> this is a struggle over what life will look like in the 21st century. and the most fundamental freedoms are at stake. >> like vladimir putin, xi seems to believe his own propaganda. how do we make our powerful deterent believable to xi and the chinese communist party so they don't draw us into war? >> this hearing comes amid really increasing tension between china and the west. the spy balloon incident, lethal aid to putin's army and those are a few. so let's talk about this with the man you just heard from, house select committee member on china democratic congressman seth multon of massachusetts. congressman, thank you very much. >> good to see you. >> good to see you too. struck by the hearing last night, particularly when you

asked hr mcmaster, former trump's former security adviser, how do we make our powerful deterrent believable to xi, president xi, so they don't draw us into war? what were you saying? do you think war with china is possible in the next few years? >> absolutely. i mean xi ping said he wants to take back taiwan and we have made it very clear, the president has said that dwwe dot want that to happen. when we look at the success we've had in europe with ukraine, i mean, no one imagined the ukrainians would be doing this well. no one imagined that nato is this strong, standing united against the russian threat. despite all that success, we have to admit deterence failed. we were not able to prevent a war in europe before it started. we can't afford to let the deterrents fail in the pacific. we can wake up and see two american aircraft carriers at the bottom of the pacific ocean. thousands of young americans

under the sea. so we can't let that happen. we've got to understand how to make sure that we not only have a strong deterrent in the pacific, but that xi believes it. he does believe his own propaganda. we can't have him make the same miscalculations as his autocratic brother and think that americans in the west are not going to be united to stop it. >> just to be very clear. i said two things. i said possible and then probable. do you think u.s. war with china sparked because of a potential invasion of taiwan is probable in the next several years? >> it certainly possible. i don't think it's probable because our deter erent is so strong. we have to make that clear, not just to us, it's not whether we believe that we can resist the chinese and their aggression, but that the chinese communist party believes this as well.

we heard mike gallagher tell cbs on sunday that the committee is hoping to have a conversation first with the nba and disney and other companies. do you plan on calling in nba commissi commissioner allen silver? you could subpoena ceos if needed. >> we haven't made specific decisions on individuals. this is a broad threat. they're not just a military threat to the united states. they're an economic threat. they're a threat to their own people. i mean they're committing genocide against some of the citizens and repressing everyone. repressing chinese citizens overseas even here in america. so this is a very broad threat. this is to look at all as

inspection between the chinese communist party and the united states. so we're certainly going to get into these economic issues. there is a lot of work to do there. the threat is real. we have to address it. >> let me move on to something we're covering all morning long. the revelations from the rupert murdoch investigation. you're someone who has gone on and continued to go on fox news for interviews. you have written op-eds for them. you continue to do so since 202the 2020 election. president biden has not been on fox news once since he became president. i wonder if it this change your view of appearing on that network. >> it doesn't change my view of fox. i think nobody should be surprised that they don't believe -- the things that they're saying themselves. that's what this lawsuit has revealed. that you have people like tucker karlsson and sean hannity spouting trump's lies and privately saying of course they're not true.

but the reality is for us, i mean, i represent everybody in my district in massachusetts. democrats, republicans, trump supporters, biden supporters and people who don't even vote. so i think it's important to speak to all of them and that's why i'll continue going on fox. i think i'm on cnn more though. >> look, you say i know what they are. but i'm still going because i want people to hear what i have to say. so let's move on to this. one of the reasons you're here this morning is what you and congressman clay yburn reintroduced. this is really long overdue gi bill benefits. benefits not shared equally. they did not get in the way that the white counterparts d you didn't get it through last time. what are the prospect now and why are you doing this? >> this legislation restores the gi bill benefits promised and earned. promised to veterans and earned by them for fighting in world

war ii. no matter who i talk to, they think this is a good idea. doesn't matter if you're an ultra conservative or republican, democrat, far left or far right, we all know that this is the rig tht thing to do. as a veteran that would nott be standing in the capitol today without the gi bill, i'm shocked that so many black americans were denied this benefit they earned. listen to this. in northern new jersey and new york, in the area where your studio is, in 1947, there were 67,000 home loans issued to u.s. veterans. 67,000. out of the earn generational wealth in america. we owe it to the veterans and their families to the right thing. as a veteran myself, it might not be my generation's fault

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>> favorite band. >> "free bird" a song that is 11 minutes long. what is important about 11 minutes? a study finds if you spend that time, that same amount of time doing moderate exercise that you are going to live longer, lot longer than 11 more minutes. our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta joins you us now. we went to the break, four minutes ago, this will be like four, five minutes, whatever, in the time we went to the break and do this segment, you would have been done and have had some really -- it would have been beneficial to your health. tell us about it. >> this is really interesting. oftentimes when we look at exercise studies their presented in binary terms, meaning if you do this amount of exercise, that's what you need to do to get the health benefits. this study tried to say, look, let's not think about this in such strict terms and figure out how much benefit you get from

lower amounts of exercise or shorter amounts of exercise and movement. so i thought that was interesting. i will show you the results. i preface by saying it's a meta analysis. 30 million people were analyzed over ten years and they were looking at moderate forms of exercise like the kind you see on the screen there walking fast, water aerobics, doubles tennis, pushing a lawnmower. it gets you breathless enough where you can still talk but no longer sing, for example. that's the way they put it, how they analyze these types of movements. here is what they found. they broke it down, 150 minutes a week is what the recommendations are. that's what you hear from about every major medical organization. what about half of that? 75 minutes a week. on the other side, double that, 300 minutes. for all cause mortality you see the numbers. 31% reduction with the sweet spot, 150 minutes, but you still

got 23% reduction with half that time. as you look at the numbers, keep in mind what medication can give you that sort of benefit? mortality is one thing. heart disease is another thing. we looked at comparing those numbers and you do find again that 150 minutes gives you 27%, significant, but 75 minutes, 17%. and the final thing was cancer and they looked at the benefits comparing these different lengths of time and, look, it's not as good when you have less movement. that is clear. but there is still significant benefit. and i think that's what the researchers wanted to get across. >> is there a breaking point where it's just not worth it if you go over 300 minutes? >> i like that part. >> yeah. it's interesting because there is a point where i would say it's a law of diminishing returns. it's not necessarily a break point where you start to veer the curve in the other

direction, but i think we put this together for you anticipating this question. but if you see, if you look at this curve, it basically means risk is your y axis. risk goes down pretty significantly right away as you start to move. but overall, as you start to move more and more, that's going to the right on the screen, your risk of all these different types of health maladies, it may drop a little bit, but not as much. what is that sweet spot? about 300 minutes a week. so, you know, roughly five hours a week of exercise of movement, the way that we described it. you are not going to get much benefit in terms of health things. it's not going to hurt you, but not necessarily more benefit in reducing risk factors. >> a lot of people work out for physical benefits, but a lot of people do it for the mental benefit. what does this study see about the real changes that you can see from doing that?

>> as a brain guy, i love this question. i find the answer a bit counterintuitive. this will surprise people. any kind of movement, intense, brisk, whatever movement, is, obviously, good for your body, and it also helps produce something that is known as bdnf, this neurotroveic factor which helps neurons grow and different things. what they find interestingly is with intense activity you also make a lot of cortisol. a stress hormone. so that can inhibit that miracle-gro for the brain. both types of activity good for the body, but intense activity better for the heart, whereas moderate activity, not releasing much cortisol, good for the brain. >> good to know. as always, we love having you on. >> the brain guy. >> yes. >> absolutely. >> the brain guy. >> also a reminder, if you want to hear his podcast chasing life is out now.