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♪ call one eight hundred, eight million ♪ former house speaker, paul ryan, is facing questions about being on the board of fox news parent company. well several fox hosts pushed election lies. here's what ryan said in an interview with commentator charlie sykes last thursday, days before the explosive filing about dominion voting systems that revealed more fox -- >> if you are on the board of directors of the company that

is pumping toxic sludge, racism, disinformation and attacks on democracy, if you don't stand up now, then when? so, what do you really think? >> well, and i'm sorry it got lost in the mail -- >> do you have any response to that? >> i have responsibility of my opinion in perspective when i do that, i don't get on tv and do it. so, i have a responsibility -- >> do you? >> i do. i offer my perspective in my opinion often. >> i'll just leave it at that. >> so, you have raised these particular -- >> i'll just leave it at. that >> is their red line for you at any point where you say, i cannot be associated with a company that does this? >> i want to see the conservative movement get through this moment. i think fox is a big part of the constellation of the conservative movement. i want to see is the solution or the problem? >> i think it's going to have to be a part of the solution if we're going to solve the problem in the conservative movement. >> okay, i want to bring in

legal eagle, joey jackson, political guru, -- >> undergo genius. >> john avalon. former congressman -- and the ever unflappable, s. e. cupp. john, he voices his reservations about the lies or whatever the fox hosts were spinning in private, but not publicly. doesn't seem like they respect his opinion, nothing has changed after he voices his reservations. >> yeah. look, this is the negotiation of people inside, whether it's fox or some folks who served in the trump administration. the argument is, look, i've got influence, it's better to be in the room. problem is, that process itself becomes corrupted. your belief that you can change the culture, the culture ultimately eat you for breakfast. look, let's be honest. part of the problem we're seeing in foxes a version of what we're seeing in the republican party. it's a form of stock onstage room. it's driven by fear and greed.

for paul ryan, being on the news corp is part of his retirement package, he hopes that fox can reform itself. but everything we've seen from discovery suggests that this is miro deep inside the culture, people who are trying to tell the truth where the outliers. so, i don't know who's pulling themselves on this one. >> he makes $335,000 a year as a board member on the fox board. a lot of that is in stock. so, if oxidize well, he does well. >> i think that's the answer to why he's remaining on the board. there are plenty of boards that he could be a member of, there are plenty of organizations that he could be associated with. that are not nearly as scandalous as fox news in this particular moment. where you've got the leader of the organization admitting that he knew that when his own hosts were doing with or telling lies. lies that ended up inciting violence, ultimately, at the capitol, where i was on january 6th in 2021.

so, it's hard for me to take this guy seriously, by the way, this is not the first instance of paul ryan saying one thing and his actions undermining the interpretation that he wants people to have. but you have to stand up for something at some point in the idea that he thinks that he could single-handedly or even with a group of people change fox in this moment and profit driven organization, that feeds off this rage in this election denialism, at least in this moment, for the foreseeable future as long as trump's favorite to be the nominee. i think it's really disingenuous, if not delusional. >> i don't doubt his sincerity at all, that's my boyfriend are talking about their. >> neither do. >> i've interviewed him many times, i know him from when he was in the house and then when he was speaker. that is the mindset he had when he stayed inside the gop, he wanted to fix it from inside, to john's point. i think he's earnest in that belief. the problem is, the

conservatism that he wants to restore has left the building. it left fox, it left the gop, it left cpac, it's gone. because trump convinced all those entities to jettison it. so that trump and trumpism could be at the center of all of these universes. so, he's hoping to restore something that isn't there anymore. and because fox has become so beholden to its viewers, as we will know, they have no incentive to restore conservatism, because the viewers don't want it. now they're here for the culture wars and the conspiracy theories. fox is going to keep doubling and tripling down on that diet, so, i don't think paul is disingenuous, i don't think he's a hypocrite. i just think it's a fools errand. to think you can change that. >> a couple of things. the first thing is, i can't push this on paul ryan. it's way deeper than paul ryan, so, i don't think we can string it to him. in the interest of full disclosure, i spent about five years there as an unpaid contributor, in fact, i met the lovely ellison camerota at fox

news. >> highlight of your time there. >> you met me too at fox. >> thereafter. >> i have clearly have not yet lived. >> yes we did. -- >> listen, we met at fox, and that was a great time. different culture, way different from cnn. but i digress. >> thank you, jess. >> i digress. >> romanticize the roger ailes years. >> i think that this whole issue, right, with respect to putting money over journalism, and journalistic integrity, and then of course, not to go far afield, but having rupert murdoch engaging in this deposition where he flat out is basically saying, i had my hand in the cookie jar. i knew exactly what was happening, and what hosts were doing, and what this one should do, everyone. i thought this was a little interesting to me. >> do you think that that's because he's perhaps setting up some of his executives to take the fall? >> and perhaps he is.

i think at the end of the day, we could have a fair conversation about paul ryan and his responsibility, and if you're not part of the solution, clearly, you're part of the problem. to say it's all on him, i can't do that. >> look, paul ryan clearly thinks he can still be part of the solution. i take s. e.'s point. the attitude that, if you don't leave the church just because you don't like the preacher. i want paul ryan to succeed. we need to same political parties. we don't have that right now. what we're seeing in this discovery, the wrought was as deep as it could possibly be, to the extent where the people trying to tell the truth were being targeted for firing. i don't how you fix that culture -- >> do you have any doubt, because fox people there, did you have any doubt that that's what was happening? >> no. >> right, kate. >> people worked as fox, this is not come as a surprise. it commits a surprise for people on the outside -- that >> were being lied to. >> and how cynical it was. here's what paul ryan said, this was on page 50 of this

dominion filing, so many revelations in this. he said on january 12th, i believe, right after the insurrection, when ryan believed that some high percentage of americans thought the election was stolen, because they got a diet of information telling them that the election was stolen from what they believe were credible sources. that says it all. that says it all. the people who tune in, actually think it's fox news. but they're not following any of the journalistic rules. >> the jonah goldberg's and stephen hayes, they're kind of conservatism is gone. the journalists are gone. the ship smiths. >> 80% of the journalists got jettisoned. >> exactly. >> and they started favoring the opinion over the journalists. and the opinion was actively attacking the journalists for questioning the stuff the opinion hosts were saying. >> we all know, right, that people want to hear what they want to hear. do you tune in to get a

different perspective, or do you tune in to confirm what your perspective really is? >> this is the problem with anger attainment, which is a phrase ryan used. this is a problem with news confirmation bias, masking as news. this is the problem of our time. the reason democracy is in difficulty right now, because of polarization, hyper polarization. being fed by these organizations, that are dumping people into believing they are being told the truth, when the people saying it no they're lying. >> and corporate media, right, the wall street journal did not cover this. it's as though it didn't happen. even if the bigger story for several days, we're still talking about today. not just for cnn, but because we care about the facts. we consider ourselves a news organization. we put balanced discussion on a platform for people to listen to, but we also don't say that there are alternative facts. there's only one thing that happened with respect to the legitimacy of the 2020 election. and even people at fox who are hosts, like marquee people at the network, are saying in text messages to each other, and in

emails, and in one-on-one meetings with each other, at the highest levels, that they know this stuff is false. >> the next thing they're saying is that, we can't lose -- >> it's a profit mode. >> fear and greed. we've got to find a way to get back to facts in this area. >> okay, thank you all. stick around, everybody, i want to talk about how to protect kids from the biggest threat out there. we'll tell you what that is. ♪ experience the e elevation of elelectrification at the invitation to lexus sales evevent. when you really need to sleep. you reach for the really good stuff. zzzquil ultra helps you sleep better and longer when you ed it most. its non-habit forming and powered byhe makers of nyquil. well need fiber for our digestive health, but less than 10% of us get enough each day. good thing metamucil gummies are an easy way to get prebiotic, plant-based fiber. with the same amount of fiber as 2 cups of broccoli.

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experience of surviving a school shooting, leading to an emotional response from judge katy perry. >> i'm from santa fe, texas. in may 2018, a gunman walked into my school. [crying] i was an art room one, he shot up our room to. before he made his way to our room one. lost a lot of friends. eight students were killed, two teachers were killed. -- >> our country -- has failed us. [crying] this is not okay. you should be singing here because you love music. >> it's true. >> not because you had to go through that -- >> i agree. >> or panels back with us,

that's awful. katy perry is touting what we all wish we could shout every time we have to report on one of these. i just thought it was so stunning, joey, to hear the stats that now gun violence is the number one killer of teenagers and children in the u.s.. >> you know, stunning maybe not so much. alison, every time you turn on the tv, i think we're even becoming desensitized to this. how often are recovering these mass shootings, it's like run amok. and then you wonder why something is not being done in the face of this. when we talk about legislation, congress of all people would know, it legislation is a response to something that occurs. we have the perfect excuse now to pass all types of regulations, and what i'm sick and tired about, if i have to say, i know the slogan, guns don't kill people, people killed people. we blame it on mental illness we blame it on this, we blame it on that.

the fact is, we have a real issue, unless we get out our arms around it, we're gonna seeing a lot more people die. >> people with guns kill people. you know, it's not about looking for an excuse, it's that we're seeing a radius of damage that's just undeniable, and unlike any other nation. yes, we have a second amendment. that doesn't mean there can't be reasonable regulations. and the supreme court's reinterpreted the justice. that young man on that show reminded us all, i think, it's not just the death toll. it's the lives and the damage created by the people who survived as well. so, we've got to get serious about our politics, need to start responding to it in a more constructive way. and to get away from this idiotic duality of anti-second amendment, anti guns if you want to do something to try to heal our country. >> here's an idea. maybe it's not politics. maybe we've given up on congress. here, in the l.a. times, they

have a different suggestion for russell. today's public service announcement on gun safety feel somewhat sanitized, none really captures the horrifying physical and emotional damage caused by guns. maybe, if we showed the public what it looks like when a kid's shot, this shock and discussed a view in the reality would counter the social glimmer of guns. this is interesting, and the reason that i bring this up, there are psas in huge pr campaigns that have worked. remember, john, i look at you because you are roughly by age, when we, as teenagers, when a parent or so afraid would be so killed and drunk driving accident, and there is mothers against drunk driving. and they made an impact. no, my kids wouldn't dream of driving drunk. they would not dream of driving drunk. it wouldn't occur to them. it has seeped into the social community that that's not acceptable, what we were around -- >> we've seen it with smoking.

it's another during the 2000 between 2012 and 2018, the cdc's tips from former smokers campaign, which are horrible, those psas if you've seen there so arresting. where they can't breathe in their choking. they have prevented an estimated 1 to 29,000 early deaths and saving estimated 7.3 billion in smoking related health care problems. >> i was part of those youth groups. in florida, it was called truth. that was funded in part, if not exclusively, by money from the tobacco settlement here in new york, in the hudson valley, i was part of a group called reality check. and we educated people, obtain different states it was called something different. it was a youth-led movement, that was intended to educate other young people about frankly the sinister ways in which the tobacco industry would market its products to young people. petting products at a certain height in convenience stores so that they could be seen by younger people.

>> joe camel. >> putting images that were of interest to young people, animals and other characters. look, i was in sixth grade when columbine happened. as afraid as i was in that moment, i never imagined that this nation would become numb to mass shootings. and it should be arresting to everybody that over 300,000 young people have experienced some way a mass shooting, mass school shooting since 1999. which is when columbine happened. >> listen, i'm here for all the solutions and all of the brainstorming. i quit the nra years ago because that kind of thinking didn't happen. and the nra no longer represented gun owners like me, who are absolutely open to common sense -- >> and there's so many of you. >> you get the majority, and yet the nra doesn't recognize them. >> well, their membership is dwindling so was their donor

ship. they're finding that out. the problem is, this author suggests that the media play a role in this campaign. i don't think that's the answer. >> why? >> well, for one, trust in media is an all-time low. and among republicans, about 35% of them trust national media. so, if these are the people you're trying to reach, i don't think this is the best messenger group. listen, i've covered guns for a long time, i'm a gun owner. there are very few issues the media knows less about. >> how much is bsa's? >> psa is like cdc, yes, i think absolutely, and showing the graphic nature of all this i think is really important. the biggest change has to come from law-abiding gun owners. . who start demanding more action. of our congressman, of our lobbyists, of a representatives. we are the ones that have to put the pressure on. >> where are the psas? where the public service

announcements that speak to responsible gun ownership? >> i mean, there's a 97%, again, some organizations that try to do this, really hard to cut through. especially if you're trying to cut through to the second amendment crowd. there's nothing that's going to cut through, unless you appeal to the absolute awful violence, the graphic violence of this. you have to talk as mothers, not as politicians, not as media members. as mothers, fathers, sisters, colleagues, friends. that i have to put down your politics -- >> we are losing people senselessly to violence that shouldn't occur, that occurs way too often that we're seeing, and then we stay, thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers. >> we all know that that rings hollow now. i think the solution is frankly, people like yourself. it's about gun owners who understand the second amendment, who say, that doesn't mean we can't do anything. we have a long history in this country, you couldn't bring your guns into town in the old

west. tommy guns have been banned since the 1930s. we had an assault weapons ban in this country, we let it left in 2003. >> it was effective. >> so, i think it's really about not digging into the duality of this, rather, gun owners who believe in the second amendment and understand it saying, we've been fed a false choice and it's killing our kids. >> it's the majority. it's the majority of gun owners who believe. they just don't have a lobby group, they don't have a group representing them that is as powerful as the nra. i'm certainly not alone. >> it's also a symptom of are broken democracy, we cannot do basic things supported by 90% of the american people, universal background checks. >> that involve children. >> that of all children, so, when i say broken democracy, i'm talking about gerrymandering, i've talked about the role of money in politics, frankly, the way the electoral college is set up in the way the senate is set up, those are a longer term projects. >> you're getting ahead of yourself. >> i know, god forbid, i just want government to actually be responsive to what the american people want. and that is not the government

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what's going on? joining me now, -- he's the executive director of gotham will. paul, thanks so much for being here. why is this happening? >> thank you for your interest in this very concerning a activity of whales in this area. it's really troubling, so many whales washing up onshore as mortalities. and breaking news as we speak, there are two additional whales, one -- of the coastline of new jersey that are either in the surf or still afloat, or washed up on shore. this is a very concerning activity. it's been going on now 2016, noah, the agency that oversees all of this activity. has declared an unusual mortality event, which means

that more whales than usual are found dental on the beach. in addition to that, as you point out since the beginning of this winter season, numerous whales have been showing up. the condition is very grave, and what i can tell you, the facts that we see from our work in accumulating the information about live whales swimming around that we are happy to say are healthy. -- >> i do want to know that, paul, i just want to know if you see a pattern here? are they all being killed by the same thing? >> well, the people that do the necropsies have determined that there are in fact indications of ship strikes, that's the smoking gun that has been identified. that makes some sense, because the increase in the shipping has taken place recently in the

new york area, they've raised the bridges in the channels to accommodate bigger and bigger more votes that are coming into the harbor of new york, new jersey. putting those two things together, it's an unhappy additive that brings whales in shift and coastal context. >> have these whales always been swimming in the shipping lanes? are they coming in closer to shore, has something changed? >> something that we see is a definite change, which is very complex in the ocean, of course, warming conditions may have brought more fish to this area. of course, it's very clear, the whales are coming to this area to feed. they feed on -- have been seen in this area as well. that is somewhat of a change

during the winter season, just this past summer, we identified 600 will sightings from natural whale watching vessels. from scientists. it's a definite increase in the whales and they're coming here to feed. >> paul, what's the solution to this? >> i wish i knew, a good solution is very, very complex. and some of the information that we are aware of needs to be expanded before anyone can make any definitive cause and effect answers. >> okay, well thanks, paul, i really appreciate you coming in at this hour to tell us about this, i didn't know that they were all ship strikes that's really helpful. paul -- >> not all, but significant number. >> okay, thank you, we will check back with you and thanks for letting us know about the

other two that we hadn't known about. >> very, we're back with our panel, one of them is sandy hook which is my home beach, and some of them are near our island where you live. >> yeah, we've got long island has had a lot of these beaches. these are just magnificent creatures. it breaks your heart. i don't know what you do about the ship strikes, effect there seems to be a climate aspect is changing the migration patterns, you know, it's just one more example of how we're all interconnected. >> that's right, he was suggesting that now there are bigger shifts, there are more ships, ships have been turned on again after a shipping shut down. for covid. there is that. . there's we just came into this pandemic. and there's the warming that is connected to everything. you know, this is the outcome of it. >> a couple of things. the first thing, of course, if it's a shipping issue, it would only be difficult to regulate that, because how do you regulate underneath the seas? where these whales are? that becomes problematic.

number two, if it's a migration issue, relating to global warming, that's quite the larger issue. global warming, i think, is problematic in many respects. when you talk about it, people think you're crazy. -- >> they don't think you're crazy anymore about global warming, they don't have what we all decided at this point, that climate change is happening. >> i hope so. >> not everybody has. >> i don't think everyone, most people have. >> making progress, getting on the same reality based page on this one. we're not there yet. >> paul's warning is important. when you look at things like this, from a conservation standpoint, it's complex. he said that a couple of times. you know, you'll need to study. you'll need to study all the comp influence of factors. we do that on deer in chronic wasting disease, this booming population of sharks off the coast of cape cod. there's a lot going on. when you talk about conservation and animal populations, fishing, hunting,

harvesting all that. very complex systems. he's absolutely right, don't need to look at all the things that are creating this phenomenon, this awful phenomenon. >> this one announces itself in such a good way, it's hard to ignore. >> yeah. >> okay, thank you all very much. meanwhile, tiktok is imposing a one hour time limit on accounts with users under 18 years old. although they can get around it with a pass code, so, let's talk about how much time we all spend on our phones and what we can do to help teenagers spend less time. the panel has opinions, after the break. ♪ i like to move it, move it ♪ ♪ you like to... move it ♪ we're reinventing our nenetwor. ♪ ♪ ♪ fast. reliable. perfectly orchestrated.

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all right, tiktok announcing

new features to limit screen time for some users. they're rolling out a one hour daily limit, -- users will be prompted to enter a pass code, if they want to extend the time on the app. all wrap up the panel, se you will take -- what do you love so much about? >> i'm a lurk, or i don't produce anything on tiktok. oh -- what it's about it with a, who had this to. it >> was still is no, i like korean and japanese comedians store halls i like watching people go into these awesome convenience stores and cramped offices. you're >> looking at me so what we are. >> the variety of food and drink in these places just looks amazing.

i live vicariously through that. >> it's at the? music >> no. >> does paul ryan have a tiktok and do you follow? >> no. i don't do any politics on. they're >> just watch people shopping other nations. >> for lance. >> these two foreign lands -- >> please, she's not crazy. -- >> it's totally normal. >> i'm weird. >> i love it, this makes me so sad, what, the one hour time? limit >> why? >> hear me out. >> go on. >> that's my job. i'm the parent. any parent should be able to set a limit for their kid. any parent should be able to say, here's what you can do and here's what you can't do on the social media app. i think when the parents don't have to parent, they don't. why would you when the app is going to do it for you? >> how do you realistically, given how busy you are in how busy the average parent is, be able to monitor that activity. you're not with your kid at every moment. so, in fact, you're not with

your kid for more than one hour during the waking day. -- >> that's not true. >> i get it, it takes some work. it takes some creativity. >> debating how old your kids. >> i get. it but parenting is hard. parenting is a full-time job, we all work, but parenting is hard. and it's really hard coming up against the social media apps that we all have to navigate, we all have to fight off their influences, if we simply just say, the apple take care of that, we never have to get but where it's supposed to be hard but we can update this is a parent company of tiktok negotiating, part of the problem is china they get a different version of tiktok to the domestic population, including time limits, but also what might be called more nutritious content, is that right, and maria writes eloquently about this, and the problem is, you've got a distracted youth group that's really being taken in places that are not even remotely significantly constructed, it is addictive.

it's having an impact on mental health. if this can cap that, that's a step in the right direction. >> you can cap it too. you can take the phone away from your kid. >> i honestly, i think that right now, we are changing kids brains in realtime in dangerous ways, there is a nudge. let's make it a little bit more difficult to fall down that rabbit hole and have your brain turn to fudge. >> i think anything allows for more social interaction is a very good thing. -- >> off your phone, in realtime? >> as social media has its place, i think kids will play with phones, fabulous. however, how often have all of us seen a group of kids around a table, no one's talking to each other. everyone's on the phone, interacting, hello, -- >> you say that's not healthy? >> yeah we ourselves are addicted to our phones. >> it's terrible. >> i would've been a much worse student, i think, had instagram and twitter and facebook, for one year, existed while i was in high school.

i couldn't use it because at the time, you had to be a called student get on facebook. >> that's old school. >>,,. among other things. that's why we need to limit the use of tiktok, we need to ban it altogether, frankly, i think in the united states. >> no, excuse me. do not take my korean convenience store halls away. >> you can get that someplace else. >> i don't know that i can. >> i don't know that i can. >> i think kids need to speak with each other, relate to each other, -- >> of course they. do they need to be outside and learn how to socialize and not with helicopter parenting. it's interesting, the parents in my kids school are already anticipating this. and saying that we're trying to sign a get everyone to agree to limit, no social media until kids hit eighth grade. way to late. again, this is all a brave new world we're figuring it out. but if there's a way to deal with the pure pressure if there's a way to stop that, because we're already see that

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peace of mind and figure out if he wants to continue to play football. well he has not made a decision, he is now talking about what it was like to live in total darkness for four days. >> i had a little candle, i close the door. and i arranged my food on my bed where i was where i was gonna need it. and then i blew that candle out, and that started a pretty incredible, difficult at times, four nights. when you're in a brand-new room, you try to get the picture of, okay, there's where the bed is. and then, you know, it's four steps medium sized steps to the bathroom. only thing i can really drew is this wall on the bed -- besides the bed, want to get to the bathtub, you take a right. and it's about three steps, you gotta watch out for this big hook that's coming out of the wall. >> they got a big push on the wall? >> that's dicey. >> it was a dangerous hook.

eventually, kabul the most missed disorienting things were, at a couple of times, on the other side of the bed was a little yoga mat. and like a meditation seat. so you definitely meditate a decent amount, it's much easier with absolutely zero distractions and zero noises. you couldn't hear any nature noises. . >> it was quiet snow. on the outside, right? >> the worst part to me, coming out of those meditations, i think the beds over here. that's how i ran into things multiple times. i think, oh i'm good. then, bang. the wall. >> why is there a giant book sticking out in a pitch black room? that's my first question? second question, who's the we? anyway, when your thoughts? >> rich people are so bored. this is how folks are searching for meaning in life? also, why is he barefoot in this interview? >> right, similar to --

>> is he a habit? it's very important. >> yes, are you intrigued? >> listen, you know, the generous part of me wants to say, commend him for working on his mental health. talking openly about needing some kind of retreat. i am not going to judge, well, i'm gonna judge a little. but, that's good. we should all feel comfortable talking about that. i want to know how he felt afterwards. what was the change? four days of darkness? brought about? is he going to be a better quarterback? that's why want to? no >> the bottom line, he may come to new york, that would be a very good thing. if you joined the jets, i think it will be a measurable increase -- >> star in the next batman movie. >> anything is possible now. >> he's morphing into jack dorsey, i think, look, in fairness to him, think about

the example that joe namath was setting for the youth of america, now he's saying, look, i'm gonna be taking a first ranked quarterback and haven't get into meditation. albeit, in a really, really on way. i also look forward to the meme of him saying, the wink and smile that after i blew the candle out. that was pretty creepy. >> that was creepy. >> i want to hear the outcome. god bless him for meditating. >> how do you eat in the dark? >> probably very difficult. >> each of us have our own thing. and if his own thing, after a very stressful season, where he thought he could've advanced further, was to go and spend two, four nights whatever he did in the dark place, that's what he did. he gets his -- >> post grad i alaska. >> if he gets his mental health -- >> when he arranged the food on his bed. >> listen, there's an oakland ace picture, he used to do ballet in yoga. >> how do you bring barry zeano to this conversation? i congratulate him.

>> he was a little odd as well, he embraced it. it was his own odd regimen. and he embraced it. it made him a better picture. >> right. >> oh my gosh. >> i'm intrigued, but not tempted. >> intrigued but not tempted. i'm not tempted -- >> for days in the dark. in the light go out -- >> j ets, jets. maybe he'll go to the jets as a result. >> you can have. >> that's where you come down on the. >> yes. >> that be a lot of mind controlled in that hobbit hole. well. >> no, he talked a little bit more, all he said was some family stuff came up. obviously, career stuff. i just kind of let whatever gonna come in, come in. and it definitely did. that's what he said. >> god bless him. >> into his mind. >> he reminds me of the iowa, that whole experience. >> it releases the same drug in your brain, naturally releases a drug. >> i know about this.

>> i do this every night, i do the darkness retreat every night. and it triggers some hormone in your brain. >> not for four straight days. >> close. >> all right, everyone. thank you for watching, tune in tomorrow for more darkness retreat, and much more news, our coverage continues. [sfx: stomach gurgling] it's nothing... sounds like something. ♪ when you have nausea, heartburn, indigestion, ♪ ♪ upset stomach, diarrhea. ♪ pepto bismoloats and soothes for fast relief... when you need it mt.

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