good morning. news just into cnn this hour. michigan's attorney general the target of a murder plot. according to the fbi and confirmation from the attorney general herself, a heavily armed man threatened on social media to kill jewish elected officials in the state. we have been breaking details on that ahead. a discovery at a pennsylvania airport. a suitcase packed with an explosive discovered before it was loaded on a plane. what we're learning about the suspect and the device that was allegedly hidden inside his checked luggage. plus this. >> just terrifying moments in the sky on two different flights. smoke filling a spirit airlines cabin after a fire broke out and seven passengers hospitalized this morning after severe turbulence on a lufthanza flight from texas to germany. first, we start with that breaking news we told you about out of michigan where the state's attorney general now

says she was the target of a plot to kill jewish elected officials in michigan. dana nessel says the fbi informed her she was the target, one of the targets of a heavily armed man who made threats on social media for more on this breaking news we want to bring in cnn's chief law enforcement and intelligence officer john miller. there is a lot of jewish students, apparently this university he used to work. what are the questions that this raises for you right off the bat? >> well, the questions and answers, this is part of this growing antisemitism that is bridging from speech into violence into discussions of violence and the kind of extremism, domestic violence extremism accelerationism to topple the government has become a salad bar of these issues where you can pick, you know, the qanon conspiracy theories,

add in antisemitism, you can add in anti-government. in this kiss, jack carpenter, who is charged in this case, starts off as an anti-vaxxer which gets him fired from the university up there. he is under investigation at the time for the theft of one handgun. he has another handgun registered to him. he has an order of protection. so there are a lot of red flashing lights around this individual who then posts i'm heading back to michigan now and threatening to carry out a punishment of death to anyone that is jewish in michigan government if they don't leave or confess. you could say, well, it's a political environment. it's an empty threat. but the federal statute says if you make a threat interstate commerce, in this case a twitter account online, and you have the means to carry that out, he has multiple weapons, that meets the ticks for the arrest under that statute. and when they made their arrest

and did their search they confiscated weapons. this is a very serious case. but unfortunately not that unusual now. we are seeing more of these. >> let's get to the -- i mean, what the real issue is. we can talk about how this happens, whatever. it's what the fbi director says, our intelligence officials say, the number one terror threat to the united states is not foreign terror, it's hate, it's domestic terror and that is what -- that's where we keep coming to, john. >> and statistically, that's true. and the fbi's counterterrorism division you have the people working on al qaeda and isis, but a lot of that has shifted to the domestic threat because simply as one set of cases has been going down in numbers, but that threat is not eliminated. the other is going up. when i was tstill at the nypd over last summer we were experiencing the same thing, the domestic extremist threat was overtaking this. you know, you ask what kinds of things fuel this, and a lot of

this lives online. let's go back to michigan. we all remember the plot by a group of men to invade the statehouse or the governor's mansion to take governor whitmer hostage with her family to make demands. the remarkable thing, those guys weren't all from michigan. they were from around the country who found each other online, hadn't met personally, began to obtain weapons, make this plan. this is living online and snowballing. >> yeah, john miller, thank you very much. i know you are reading through the affidavit right now. >> the paper is still hot. >> yes. it just crossed. thank you. meanwhile, hours from now the man accused of trying to bring explosives on to a flight set to appear in court. it happened hin allentown. the suspect here on surveillance camera checked in a piece of luggage that had an explosive device hidden in the lining.

the tsa, it transportation security administration, discovered it before it was loaded on to a flight to florida. investigators say the suspect ducked out of the airport after scrutiny, after security , excue me, called him over the overcome. he was arrested at his home. the bomb technician says it was circular and wrapped up in wax-like paper and plastic wrap. there were two fuses, a quick fuse designed to ignite explosives quickly, a hobby fuse that burns slower. seven people recovering in the hospital this morning after injuries from severe turbulence in the sky yesterday. this is what it looked like inside the plane. food, papers, luggage scattered after lufthanza flight from texas to germany was forced to make an emergency landing just outside of washington, d.c., at dulles. the woman who shot the video was five months pregnant. she says she just finished eating, was about to go to the bathroom when the turbulence suddenly hit. here is how she describes it.

during dinner there was wind shear. the plane fell 1,000 feet. it was like unexpectedly free falling for five seconds off the top of a roller coaster. plates and glassware up at the ceiling. there was a moment of oh, my god, am i going to meet my daughter? pete joins us from washington, d.c., now. it's terrifying. i wonder if you are hearing anything from airport officials from the faa? >> so terrifying. we are getting preliminary details from the faa which says this happened 90 minutes into german flight 469. somewhere near memphis, tennessee, last night it went through a severe and unexpected turbulence at 37,000 feet and the faa says ultimately this led to the injuries of these folks on their way to frankfurt. the flight diverted to dulles outside of d.c. we know from passengers onboard, and you can see the images onboard how badly this plane was tossed around. it weighs 200 tons at max gross

weight. so that shows how much force was on this airplane. we know that the food during food service was thrown to the ceiling. a passenger was badly injured. first responders met this flight at the gate, at dulles, where it diverted to seven people injured in total. lufthanza says in a statement this was so-called clear air turbulence which can occur without visible weather phenomena. the crew decided to make an alternate landing after flying through the turbulence. lufthanza regrets the inconvenience this caused for passengers. the ntsb says clear air turbulence is a big problem. remember that the top cause of incidents onboard commercial airliners according to the ntsb is turbulence. it's a big risk to passengers just another reason why you should wear your seatbelt sign even if the sign is off. a risk to the flight crew azer this up and walking around.

not all that unsimilar to the issue on a hawaiian airlines flight back in january when that flight enwent through turbulence and some passengers were hurt as well. >> pete, thank you for filling us in. speaking of aviation, president biden's embattled pick to lead the faa phil washington was grilled by lawmakers at his confirmation hearing yesterday. washington is now the ceo of denver international airport, has been on the program before, previously held roles at municipal transit organizations, led the biden/harris transition for the transportation department. a resumé he cited while on capitol hill yesterday. >> as a military veteran and leader of three large transportation organizations, my broad transportation safety knowledge and real-world leadership experiences providenia unique perspective of how aviation in all modes of transportation should integrate into a seamless system. >> washington there talking

about his experience as republican senators actually had concerns about it saying they believed he had limited experience in the aviation industry. >> you ever fly on a lplane? >> thank you for the question, sir. no, i have never flown a plane. >> you weren't a military pilot or commercial airline pilot? >> no, senator. >> have you ever worked for an airline? >> no, senator. >> have you ever worked as an air traffic controller? >> no, senator. >> lawmakers pointed to questions about washington's legal entanglements. last september he was named in a search warrant tied to political corruption investigation in los angeles and last month axios reported his name was mentioned in a federal lawsuit in which a former parking director at the denver airport alleged intolerable working conditions. his client reached out to washington for help but never got a response. democratic criticisms saying th

critiques were a hatchet job. >> instead of moving quickly to confirm the president's nominee, republicans and their allies have tried to delay mr. washington's confirmation, throwing everything to stop a qualified nominee and they are smearing a long-time public servant and army veteran. >> other lawmakers behind the scenes have voiced questions about his resumé. wednesday's hearing came at a critical time for the agency as you heard from senator schatz there. they have been rocked by safety incidents recently, including several near collisions and technology malfunctions that upended holiday travel. union leaders reporting that rail workers have been getting sick at the site of the toxic train derailment in ohio. in a letter to the transportation secretary pete buttigieg and governor dewine they say employees are experiencing migraines and naush a the leaders met wednesday with butte, the federal railroad administrator, to push heightened safety.

miguel, good morning. considering what they are working with, all these, you know, toxins, it's not surprising that folks are getting sick. sadly, it shouldn't happen but not surprising. what are officials saying about this? >> reporter: yeah, i want to show you before we get to that just this ongoing effort to clean up the creeks in east palestine. this is one of the runs that is contaminated and they have been treating this for weeks with these booms, absorbent booms and then aerating the water and keeping all of that toxic material on the bottom, to the top so it could be absorbed by booms. that letter specifically indicates that workers were concerned in the days after the derailment because norfolk southern was more interested in getting the trains running than they were -- so the letter says about worker safety and several say that they got sick in the

days after when it was most to toxic after the derailment, spill of chemicals and venting of chemicals as well. towns -- people we speak to in town also say that, look, while east palestine was evacuated, those workers continued to work, they say, and as soon as that evacuation was lifted trains started to come through town. so the major concern here among the unions and people here in town is that the focus for norfolk southern has never been about the cleanup and the people of east palestine. it's about keeping those trains running. don. >> miguel marquez, thank you. let's talk more about this. the train derailment in east palestine, ohio, is sparking rare bipartisan action in congress. a group of senators, republicans and democrats, introduced a new bill that would try to prevent future incidents like this. it would enhance safety procedures for trains that are

carrying hazardous material, address the risk of wheel bearing failures and increase the maximum fines for rail carriers for wrongdoing, something that the transportation secretary pete buttigieg called for on this show earlier this week. it would require two-person crews on every train. let's bring in the chair of the national transportation safety board jennifer hominy. >> good morning. >> would this bill stop another east palestine disaster? >> well, we have to wait until the ntsb's investigation is complete to see what our recommendations will be and i expect and the people of east palestine deserve to have those recommendations implemented right away, whether those recommendations are to the railroad or to d.o.t. or another entity. >> we heard the concerns about people -- from people of east palestine about the priorities

of the company. we will see the ceo, alan shaw, of norfolk southern, testify next week before the senate. what would you ask him if you were one of those senators? >> i would ask him what would he do differently? what would he do differently? and how will he protect this community now that there has been a spill and how will he protect the workers? just to mention i saw that miguel's reporting there, the ntsb has recommendations that still haven't been acted upon to d.o.t., to provide emergency escape breathing apparatus for personnel that are involved in derailments or collisions where hazardous materials has been spilled. so there is an opportunity. congress required it. d.o.t. should mandate it. but there are several actions that can be taken right now. >> this week the cato institute took issue with what you said in the last two weeks when you said that this incident was 100%

preventible. their assessment, jennifer, you said that without any regard to cost. reading from their report, new rules should pass a cost benefit test considering the drastic decline in rail derailments the last four decades. we looked and there has been quite a decline. but there were still over 1,000 when you look at 2021, according to the bureau of transportation statistics. what is your response to them? by the way, the rules do go through cost benefit analysis. >> that's right. cost bennett analysis is what the u.s. department of transportation does when they implement rulemaking. for the ntsb, our sole mission is to investigate a derailment or a collision or other major event and to report on what would prevent it from recurring, to determine what would prevent it from recurring. from our perspective, cost is not weighed. it should not be weighed. that would be contrary to the ntsb's mission which is why we

issue safety recommendations. when the d.o.t., for example, receives those safety recommendations, they can determine what what's appropriate and they can do the cost benefit analysis. from our view, every life in epa or throughout the u.s. is priceless. >> what about republican congressman troy nehls who as the chairman of the subcommittee on railroads, pipelines and hazardous materials says the rail industry has a very high success riate of moving hazardos stuff. he points to 99% plus of this being done safely. he says let's not have more burdens and regulations and all this other stuff. what do you think of that? >> i have had tremendous discussions with him and look forward to continuing to working with him and the committee and his staff. what i will say is it is time to look at rail safety. i am hopeful that they will have a hearing where we can talk about these issues. but overall we will have to see

where this investigation goes and we may issue recommendations that can be implemented voluntarily, that won't require recommendations. many of our recommendations don't require regulation. but we still expect them to be implemented and taken care of immediately. >> i think that's a food point. it doesn't take an act of congress to make things safer. they can do that. let's move on to what is happening at our airports right now. you oversee this as well. you announced yesterday you guys are going to investigate the latest close call on the runways at boston logan. are these happening more? >> yeah. i mean, they are happening more frequently. i will say a majority of the runway incursions, and it's over 1,600 a year, up from 1,300 a year from 2017. a majority of those are lower risk or no risk. but the ones that are of risk,

those are the ones that the ntsb wants to take a look at to prevent them from becoming something more catastrophic in the future. >> this is why we look at incidents, so it doesn't become an accident. i will say runway kurgss have been an issue. we had a forum in 2017 where we evaluated some of the conditions, some of the decision-making and risks around runway incursions. now we are six years later and we are now going to take action. you are going to hear it first, poppy. we are going to take -- we are going to have a forum on runway incursions this spring to see where are we now. are we anywhere since 2017? where do we need to go? >> a public forum? >> that's right. >> final question, jennifer. bottom line s it still as safe to fly today or not because of

this increase? >> it is. it is very safe. we are the gold standard when it comes to aviation. you are more at risk driving on our roads where 43,000 people die a year and millions are injured. >> thank you. >> you should not be worried. >> thank you, jennifer hominy. good look with the continuing investigation for the people of east palestine. >> thank you, poppy. >> kaitlin. in an hour, alex murdaugh's attorneys are going to make closing arguments to the jury. after the jury visited the scene of the crime, we will take you inside the courtroom. >> everyone who thought they were close to him, everyone who thought they knew who he was, he fooled them all. >> don't let him fool you too. new tresemmé fluid smooth spray. powered by hydrating cococonut droplets. with plant-based protein thatat penetrates. in one spray, get instant shine and smsmoothness. new tresemmé fluid smooth haircare. before...

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so the jury in the alex murdaugh double murder trial could get the case as early as today after murdaugh's defense team presents its closing arguments. murdaugh, of course, charged with killing his wife and his son back in 2021. prosecutors summed up their case yesterday against the once prominent south carolina attorney saying that murdaugh was the only person with the motive, the means and the opportunity to murder his family members. they painstakingly laid out the brutality of the alleged crime and the lies that murdaugh told along the way. listen to this. >> maggie sees what happens and comes running over there, running to her baby. probably the last thing on her mind thinking that it was him who had done this. she is running to her baby whale he has gotten picked up a

blackout and opens fire at close range, again with no defensive wounds. everyone who thought they knew he was -- who he was, he fooled them all and he fooled maggie and paul, too. >> so the judge also allowed jurors to visit the crime scene as requested by the defense despite opposition from prosecutors who say that the property has changed since the killings two years ago. so joining us now cnn legal analyst criminal defense attorney mr. joey jackson. this case is fascinating. everybody, right? the public. so my question, the closing remarks from the prosecution, what did you think? is the jury gonna buy that? >> i think they were very compelling. i think they got two of three things. the first thing is motive. that would be one the motive about the financial crimes you committed or coasting in on you, your family is going to out you. the good news for the prosecution is they don't have to prove motive.

inquiring minds want to know, but it's not determinative because the jury is not voting on that. away from motive, what they really boxed him in on is the timeline. who else could have been there? who else could have done it? you initially alex murdaugh gave the indication you weren't there but then you had to change your story because you ygot busted i a number of ways. we know you were there for a number of different reasons. they laid out a compelling story. let's see what the defense does today to rebut that. >> as i said in the introduction you to, the defense got its way, the jurors got to go to the scene even though the prosecution pushed back saying it's different, right, pushed back saying that it was different. what did jurors get? >> i think it's always important, right. remember what a trial is all about. a trial is about the re-creation of the events, the trial is about a narrative. but ultimately you want to let the jury know what happened, where it happened, how it happened, when it happened, et cetera. and i think when you go to the

actual scene you get perspective. yes, during a trial there is photos, surveillance, there is descriptions, there are details. but when you go there i think you get a sense of, oh, this is what it's like t does it favor one side or the other? i don't think so. it allows you to contextualize the facts and make a better adjustment whether that's guilty or not guilty. >> you know your way around a courtroom. what stood out to you? the prosecution has been honing in on the lies, right. they said about his financing, about his finances, right? how does the defense respond to that? >> i think what we will hear is that, look, this is not about lying or financial crimes s this a financial crimes case or a murder case? we heard a lot about these finances, a lot about issues with respect to clients that he billed for a lot of money, a lot about his pill addiction, et cetera. this is about who engaged in these murders. and when you have -- i'm speaking from the defense perspective. when you have a person who is a loving father, right, who is a

loving husband, why on earth would he do this? i think you will see an attack on motive and an attack upon the timeline. timeline, the prosecution boxed him in. who could have done this, right? they boxed him in. the prosecution did with regard to their timeline saying with this limited timeline and the fact that their phones, right, paul, his son and his wife maggie, they died at the same time, rate, and you, of course, in your phone there is activity showing you were milling about, i think they narrowed, that is the prosecution a timeline to say it was only you. the defense will attack that. they will attack the science of it and say it happened longer, right, the murders happened a lot later. why is that significant? because it gives someone else the opportunity. last point, don, and that's this. the defense will also talk about alternative theories. could it have been someone else who meant the family harm, perhaps murdaugh involved with unsavory characters with his pill addiction, pa peerhaps his, the boating accident and him

taking the life of a young woman. other people could have potentially done this. they will play that up because it goes to the nissue of reasonable doubt. >> in these cases they say there is no body. but they didn't find the murder weapon. >> the fact is that there is something called circumstantial evidence which is evidence, right? you do not reward -- i'm speak interesting a prosecutor's perspective. you don't reward a smart defendant because someone could conceal a murder weapon, they don't get the benefit of a not guilty. it's all about what the evidence shows. sometimes there are not ten people to say he did it. you have to piece it together through other facts, the prosecution is relying on the puzzle pieces matching and them pointing to murdaugh of course. today we will sea the defense pointing those puzzle pieces to everyone but him. >> deliberations then. when do you think? >> i think what will happen is that the closing argument of the defense will be very powerful today. the jury will get the case. the jury will then deliberate.

it's who knows how long that process will take. but we will quetta verdict sooner rather than later. >> thank you. >> absolutely. well, coming up cnn sits down with first lady jill biden and asks what advice she gives her husband, you know, the president, on the job. and a first family dining out debate. do you ever order the same dish as your dining partner at a restaurant? the president and the first lady do and the internet had a lot to say about it. ♪

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♪ all right. as president biden is reportedly preparing for another white house run, first lady dr. jill biden was recently abroad traveling in africa. she sat down with arlette sans, they discussed topics including the personal relationship between the first couple. arlette saenz joyins us now. fascinating trip. obviously, one of the biggest things is him running in 2024 because she is one of the

biggest influences on him. >> they really don't like to call her an advisor to him but she really is his most trusted partner. specifically when it comes to that issue relating to 2024. they have been married 46 years. so she has figured out when exactly to kind of weigh in and offer advice and she offered insight into exactly how a little bit of a window into how those conversations play out. >> reporter: i know you said that you are not the president's advisor. you are his spouse. but you do hold a lot of influence. what are the areas you do offer him advice on? >> well, certainly i tell him stories. things that i have seen and things that people want. where there are challenges. so it's not that i'm like weighing in. it's like let me tell you what i saw or what i heard or what people are saying to me. and so it's in that context. because i'm out every day, in

the classroom, i'm out, you know, somewhere in the united states, and so i think it's a good balance really. >> reporter: there is a lot of focus on the role and the impact that you have on him. but how does he help you? >> well, sometimes i don't -- i may not see things from his perspective. let's just put it that way. and so he offers both sides. i'm always a little bit better, like this person feels this way, you know. he is very good at that, understanding why people feel the way they do. >> so i think you see her there really explain a little bit of the dynamic that goes on between the two of them. of course, she told us she is all for that run in 2024. but she offered a little bit of an opening for him should he decide not to run. she said they will be there to support him then. >> you have a whole special tonight 9:00 p.m. eastern. what else can people tune in for? >> we asked her questions on a

range of topics, including a big issue for a lot of voters, is concerns about the president's age. he is 80 years old. he would be 82 if he wins, 86 at the end of the second term. she said look at what he is doing. she pointed to that recent are trip he took from the u.s., that secret trip into ukraine, riding that secret train for ten hours and into poland. she says look at that for his stamina. and we asked her a question about one of those republican proposals from nikki haley, who has fcalled for politicians ove the age of 75 to take mental competency tests and we will have a little bit more of that later tonight. >> wow. juicy. look, this is beyond -- this is not left or right or whatever. how could you not like jill biden? every time i meet her, she is just such a warm person. you know what i mean? she is an extraordinary woman. she is one of those people you

can't not like her. >> she has a unique role as first lady and she is the only -- or the first first lady to have a full paid time job outside of the white house. she is still teaching community college like she is for eight years as second lady. she teaches english and writing. in fact, the day we flew to africa she had a full day of classes, hopped on the plane, flew to africa, got back five on monday and got back -- >> you are proving my part right there. >> and she rarely speaks. she doesn't often do wide-ranging interviews. she is in the room when biden is speaking when it's a big address, when he is doing the addresses. she will be in the back watching. interesting to hear that. >> when i do interviews with him, she was always in the room. >> congratulations. can't wait to see that. >> hang around. >> and you can watch this interview, that answer about nikki haley's competency test, it airs in cnn primetime jill

biden abroad airs tonight at 9:00 p.m. on cnn. >> that's important. now for the really important stuff. getting an inside like at the first couple's most recent date night, which has a lot of people talking. why? well, president biden, first lady jill biden hit the down last weekend at a well known d.c. restaurant, the red hen. they shared some wine, some bread and a salad. pretty standard date procedure, right? this is where things get a little more interesting because maybe even controversial because according to the "washington post" for the entree portion the president ordered the rigatoni with fennel sausage ragout and the first lady ordered the same thing. mezzi rigatoni, the sausage ragout, rigatoni for the potus, rigatoni for the flotus. that's a song in there. i like that. i have heard from a very reliable source, a certain "cnn this morning" co-anchor who knows the d.c. scene well. says the pasta possibly the best

thing on the menu. you got to ask, why not share or two different pastas? all of that in jest. we were talking. why is this a story? we order the same thing all the time. >> yes, we do, too. >> what's the scoop? i mean, when i read it -- >> at the red hen, i order the rigatoni. that's like my favorite dish. if you think the bidens, they love pasta, they love red sauce pasta. it's not entirely surprising. i think that they have been married so long they are fine doing their things their way. >> why didn't i bring us the red hen pasta? >> come on, i'm never going to be invited back. >> i agree with kaitlin that you should order something different and then reach over the table -- >> yeah. >> i do think typically that's the debate, is people order something different. be adventurous. >> you have had it? you love it?

>> we love it. it's an institution in d.c. everyone should go to the red hen. >> red hen, send us some of that pasta. we would love to have it here on the set. coming up, a major loss for starbucks after a judge rules the coffee giant committed, quote, egregious and widespread violations of federal labor law. what does this mean big picture for the unionization? ♪ experience the capability

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okay. looking at san francisco. i am told the planets jupiter and venus appearing close together in the night sky. this a fphenomenon astronomers call kissing planets and it happened overnight. experts also call it a conjunction. the two planets are actually, though, more than 400 million miles apart. this morning a win for unionized starbucks workers after a judge ruled the company displayed egregious and widespread violations of federal labor laws.

as a result, the company has to reopen closed doors and reimburse back pay and damages to employees. this is focused on dozens of unfair labor practice charges from stores around buffalo, new york, that is where starbucks workers united began their union drive in 2021. since then more than 200 starbucks stores have voted to unionize out of about 9,000 across the country. the new order requires starbucks do a number of things, including to stop retaliating against employees for unionizing, notify workers of their rights to unionize and stop surveilling employees and listening in to some employees' conversations on headsets. the judge ruled that the interim ceo howard shultz and another company leader must read that notice to employees or be present at meetings where those wr rights are read. i sat down with shultz where he explained his position against unionization at the company. >> we are not a perfect company.

i am saying this because we didn't have the union or an outside party tell us what to do. we did this because wei want to be in service to the people. if a de minimis group of people which is now about 300 stores file for a petition to be unionized, they have a right to do so. we, as a company, have a right also to say we have a different vision that is better, more dynamic and we have a history to prove it. >> senator bernie sanders has invited shultz to testify this month to congress alleging a lack of compliance with federal labor laws. shultz declined that invitation because he is leaving the company this spring. starbucks offered to send another executive in his place saying we look forward to a productive discussion with the committee. senator sanders says his committee will vote next week whether they will subpoena shultz or not. as for the union, they call it historic. they say it will continue to fight to hold billionaires like howard shultz accountable. starbucks believes the decision is inappropriate given the

record on this matter. they are looking to appeal and the deadline for an appeal, guys, would be at the end of the month. >> what's so fascinating a factor of this is how starbucks was strud as progressive and now with these allegations damaging that but doesn't seem like it affected their sales. >> it hasn't in the u.s. they have china issues, that's separate. no, it hasn't. and just point of fact. it's a little under 300 stores out of 9,000. and howard shultz, remember that interview, vo open about saying this company made missteps. i am not surprised a union showed up. he came back in april of 2022 to correct a lot of that. the question is does this become widespread at starbucks, the union push, does it become widespread at other big companies going through a similar thing like amazon, et cetera. but it's a real focus of congress right now that's for sure. >> like bernie sanders is driving -- he really wants him to come testify. they have been heavily critical

of him if he doesn't. >> yeah. and they were not only known as a progressive company. factually were and still are one of the more progressive companies in terms. benefits they give employees. there is still a big push to unionize. we'll watch. all right. there goes my hero. foo fighters dave grohl, rolling up his sleeves to help others. how many other americans routinely do the same? what you are seeing dave grohl do here. harry enten looked at the numbers. he is not going to sing, but the numbers next. bye, bye cough. later chest congestion. hello 12 hours of relief. 12 hours!! not coughingng? hashtag still not cougughing?! mucinex dm gives youou 12 hours of relief from chest c congestion and any type of cough, day or night. mucinex dm. it's comeback seasason. this thing, it's making me get an ice bath again. what do you mean? these straps are mind-blowing! they collect hundreds of data points like hrv and rem sleep, and you are?

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phen foo fighters front man is a hero, he cooked breakfast at a homeless shelter last week. he fed 150 people in the winter storm that hit parts of southern california. seeing people like dave grohl makes you wonder how many other people are lending a hand in their spare time. compared to dave grohl, how long did he volunteer? do regular people volunteer? >> this morning's number. 2s 24 hours. because that's how long dave grohl barbecued for at a homeless shelter. it's a long time, i can't believe he did it. shows he's willing to give back to the community. good for him. this got me interested. how much do americans volunteer with an organization. if we look at 2021 we see it's

23% of americans did so. that's the lowest in two decades. down from 30% in 2019. i think a lot of that has to do with the covid-19 pandemic, right. it was harder for people to get out. but this is a trend i'm going to be watching because obviously as a country we want people to be out there formally volunteering with folks so we don't like seeing this decline. >> what about informal volunteering. that's a lot of things people do. my little brother cut someone's grass in the neighborhood that couldn't cut it themselves. it doesn't get registered but they're still doing it. >> that's right. going out and helping a neighbor. watching out for their kids, picking up the kids from school. cutting the grass. this is interesting. informally volunteering, so americans who exchange favors with neighbors, look at this in 2021, it was a majority, 51%. no real change from 2019 when

you're at 52%. and you combine them, it's 60% of americans who volunteer formally and informally. >> it has benefits. it makes people feel better too. >> right. if you volunteered last year, formally or informally, you're more likely to be civically engaged. 1.5 times more likely to vote in local elections. so getting involved makes you care about the community and makes you more likely to vote local elections on school boards and stuff like that. but it's about making you feel good inside. >> you get benefits as much. >> exactly. regularly volunteering makes you as happy as making an extra $1,000 a year for those in the middle class. so you're more likely to be civically engaged feel good to the tune of making $1,000 a year. >> i was here for thanksgiving, i was working so i went and

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