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>> the top of the hour this thursday, i'm jim sciutto. >> i'm erica hill. this morning, cnn learning details about a disturbing plot about a man looking to kill jewish elected officials. and the suspect could be in court as early as today. we will walk you through what we know. and also, the double murder trial of disgraced attorney alec murdaugh, and we are learning that a juror has been removed of discussing the case with people outside of the court, and all of this as the defense has just begun the closing argument. and today, a pennsylvania man is in court after he hid explosives inside of his luggage for a flight destined for orlando, and the latest on the case and the suspect's long criminal history. and we begin in michigan where a

man is accuse of plotting multiple jewish officials in that state. we go to polo sandoval, and andrew mccabe, and polo, begin with what we know about the suspect and what led to his arrest. >> good morning. we have been digging with more beyond the zen pages laid out by the federal investigators and more on what we could potentially learn from a.g. nessel saying that she has taken to twitter saying that she has been notified by the fbi when she first learned about this shocking potential threat here, and confirming that she was the target of a heavily armed defendant in this matter. the a.g. goes on the write that it is my sincere hope that the federal authorities take this offense as my hate crimes and terrorism units take plots to units against the hate crimes

and domestic terrorism unit takes plots to murder elected officials. and so, michigan officials, this man wrote, i am heading back to michigan to carry out the punishment of death to anyone who is jewish in the michigan government if they don't leave or confess. the very next day, the fbi working with the michigan state police working to track him down to texas and made contact with the mother who shared with investigators that he had potential access to three p pistols and a 12-gauge shotgun and two rifles and the investigators tracking him down to the fort worth area, and he is scheduled to appear in court soon and then trying to find out more about who this man is. >> in terms of what we are

trying to find out who this man is and there had been a protection order against him and not clear what he had been previous arrested for, but at this point knowing what we know now, and what are investigators looking at? >> certainly the past, and trying to get my hands on that order that was signed on february 9th, we know that he was arrested this past december and charged with assault, and also had at least three handguns registered with the state of michigan and also the fbi quickly found out that michigan state police were already in contact with him and investigating him as well for alleged handgun theft, so it is somebody who clearly had a history with state investigators and now that he had made it on the fbi's radar, they are certainly working together to find out more as he remains in custody. >> andy, the fbi has said for years that the domestic violent extremism is the biggest threat in this country and certainly

not the first plot in recent years plotting jewish individuals and officials and synagogues, and what is the state of that threat in this country? >> well, jim, this is right in the wheelhouse of what the fbi and director wray have told us that they believe is the most dangerous and the most concerning threat that they face on the counter terrorist site which is the threat from the extremists and predominantly lone offenders motivated by racial animus, and anti-semitic feelings and anti-immigrant feelings and charged with sometimes political grievance and then motivated to act violently on their own. so i think that this guy, he fits that picture perfectly as someone who is, you know, he is heavily armed and he might be mentally unstable, but nevertheless, he has decided to act out the animus and the

jewish a.g. >> and what could we learn more today and where is the focus today? >> well, there is no question, erica, what the fbi is doing today, since they did not have awareness of this guy until the reporting of february 17th, they are doing a deep dive of who is he, who does he associate with, and communicate with, and they are no doubt looking at the twitter account and any of the social media that he might have to understand more about the motivations, and also any planning that he might have been involved in, and who exactly was he targeting, and it seems with the victim notification to the attorney general in michigan, the fbi has awareness with the folks that he may be targeting or planning to interact with or violently towards, and they are trying to develop anything they can about this guy. >> and to say the least, they appreciate both of you being

here to help us with this story. thank you. and now, we are also learning that the defense attorneys for alec murdaugh started the closing arguments a moment ago and started later than planned, because the judge dismissed a juror this morning for allegedly talk about the case outside of the courtroom. >> quite a moment for that to happen. dianne gallagher is outside of the courthouse, and diane, it is not the first juror, and others with covid among them, and walk us through how long you expect the closing arguments to take, and who stepped in to fill that juror's spot. >> well, let's talk about this juror to be dismissed with, because we are down to one alternate juror at this point, and five of the original 12 have been replaced with alternates, and this is a surprise this morning and the judge came in and announced that they had been having interviews with

individuals and the juror herself about any discussions that she may have had with other people about the case. now the judge said that the juror denied that she had discussed case, but they had determined with other interviewers that the juror had contact or discussion with others with at least three individuals. it does not appear that the discussion was that extensive, but it did offer the juror offering her opinion on the evidence in the trial. he brought her in the room and dismissed her in the case, and asked if she had anything back in the juror room and she had a dozen eggs she needed to retrieve, and then there was an alternate for the panel, and then starting the closing arguments from attorney jim griffin and we told you that it would involve almost exactly as we suspected right now where they are going through what

reasonable doubt means. telling the jurors, if you have any hesitation, it could be reasonable. take a listen. >> some amongst you when you read in the paper that alec murdaugh was charged with the murders of his wife and son. and you thought, oh, good, they got him. but those opinions and in each of you when you filled out the questionnaire agreed and affirmed that you would leave those at the door of the courthouse. and that you would decide this case solely on the evidence. and that is what the law requires, and we will begin, the law also requires you to presume him innocent of these charges. >> reporter: now, griffin does not believe that his closing argument is going to take as long as the prosecution, but jim and erica, the state has a chance to do a reply closing as well. >> hmm, interesting. >> dianne, never a dull moment

for you there. appreciate i. and now to discuss is civil rights attorney, areeva martin. now, where we are at this moment, the defense is starting the closing argument, and the prosecution's went on for four hours yesterday after the site visit to the site of the murders. i wonder, if this isn't good for defense this morning to be starting with this fresh jury after what was likely a long day yesterday. >> yeah, jurors, erica, they are real people, and they get tired and fatigued and a four-hour closing argument by all standards is a very long closing argument, and i know that the prosecution felt that they had to point out at the point of him being a liar and they needed to go through the evidence to establish a time line, but you have to be sensitive to people's attention span. you don't want to lose their attention span, and you want to

hit them hard about the most salient points, but you don't want to hit them with overload. >> and now the closing argument and as expected zeroing in on the judicial system they only have to prove a reasonable doubt. what are you going to be listening for from them in court today to get to that point to establish that reasonable doubt? >> yeah, i think, jim, they are going to hammer in on this alternative theory that was put forth by their expert witness during the last day of the presentation of their case, and that is a theory that there were two shooter, and that there is no way that it could have been done by alec as one person, and that there had to be two people at the kennel at the night that the murders took place. and they are also going to be talking about the evidence presented by the prosecution may

be compelling by the financial fraud claims made against alec murdaugh, but they don't establish that he committed the heinous murders. yes, he may be a liar and yes, he may have stolen money, and he admitted to lying, but the evidence does not add up to the two murders. >> and we have heard the exact opposite from the prosecution as expected yesterday. what is interesting is that we heard from the former prosecutor this morning and she said that she felt four hours though it may have been, it was a strong closing argument, and the evidence was there to bring the case that they proved it. would you agree? >> i would expect a former prosecutor to say that. i would agree with that. i would agree with that and i am not surprised with that rendition of what she heard. no doubt, it was a very compelling that, and i will give the prosecution that, but there are holes in this case, and all you need is one juror to feel like the prosecutor has not

convinced her or him beyond reasonable doubt that the murder occurred in the way that the prosecution has alleged, and look, we don't have an eyewitness, we don't have the murder weapons or the bloody clothes and even though the circumstantial evidence can be compelling and enough to convict, there are some jurors at least oneer two that may be thinking, that i need more. i need more to convict someone who may be spending life of their life in jail. >> well, it is going to the jurors very soon. final moments of this trial, and areva martin, thank you so much. another case we are following today, a pennsylvania man accused of hiding explosives in checked luggage, and the court documents say that mark muffley's suitcase triggered an alarm at lehigh valley airport with powder concealed with plastic wrap consistent with commercial grade fireworks. >> sandy freeman is live in

allentown, pennsylvania this morning. and what more do we know about the suspect both in terms of what was found in the luggage and who he is. >> well, erica and jim, we are learning more about the suspect including some of the past experiences with the law enforcement, and a criminal history there, and we will get to that in a second, and what we know so far, mark muffley 40 years old from lanceford, pennsylvania, and little less than an hour away from the airport here, and he is the one that the fbi said that he put the explosive allegedly in the suitcase and tried to check it to a flight back to orlando. you know the story, that this bag did not get far, and tsa flagged it, and i will tell you what was discovered in there. it was a small capsule with powder and consistent with the commercial grade fireworks and butane, and a pipe with white residue on it and a wireless drill and two outlets taped

together. a bomb technician saw it and he said significant risk to the aircraft and passengers and that is when everything stopped there. the bag actually had a luggage tag with muffley's name on it, and that is how the airport read his name over the p.a. system here, and then we saw on the security camera in the criminal complaint, there is a still image of him leaving the airport once his name came out over the loud speaker system here. the fbi apprehended him that night on monday, but i wanted to say that i have mentioned this earlier, that he has faced criminal charges here in pennsylvania before, but they have not been at this level of more intense federal charges and some accusations of a possession of a controlled substance and now, he is accused of federal charges of placing explosive materials on a plane and he is going to be faces charges in

allentown. >> thank you. moments ago, antony blinken is to be spooking on the sidelines of g20 with his counterpart sergey lavrov for the first time since they invaded ukraine, and what he told the foreign minister. and disturbing reports from iran. a report that hundreds of the schoolgirls have been poisoned and videos to back it up. t with le have details on the ongoing investigation. rare bipartisan agreement on capitol hill to have something done to stem the rise of fentanyl crisis. i will speak to someone dealing with the crisis and the crisis and what is beining done as fars what is s working and what is n. ♪ zyrteeeec...♪

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k ksecretary of state antony blinken was seen meeting with russian counterpart lavrov at the g20 after the talk on russian invasion in ukraine. >> i said what so many g20 foreign ministers have said today, end this war of aggression, an engd engage in meaningful diplomacy for peace. >> and fred pleitgen is joining us now that we have the american characterization, and what is the russian characterization?

>> they are trying to play it down, and it is quite interesting, because this meeting took place, and after we had gotten the report that they had spoken, the russians came out in new delhi and this is from the spokesperson who said that, yes, it had happened, and it was secretary blinken who came up to sergey lavrov that they wanted to talk, and it happened on the sidelines and not some formal or planned meeting, and there were no agreements reached either, and also, the secretary of the state said that they did touch on important topics, and topics from the u.s. vantage point, and speaking about at the fate of paul wheelan who he wants the russian to act upon, and also

the s.t.a.r.t. treaty who he is telling russians to get back into compliance, and the russians are dangling it out there that they could suspend their concessions, but they want the u.s. compliance first, and the g20 nations failed to reach a concession condemning war there in ukraine, and that is because the russians a the and the chinese are on one side of the equation, and the u.s. making the point, and it is important for secretary blinken to come up to sergey lavrov to say that, and it is first time for them to speak since the war began since january of 2022 in geneva. >> thank you, fred. important point. and there is growing concern in iran on the heels that hundreds of schoolgirls and actually nearly 1,000 have been

poisoned nationwide. >> iranian lawmaker is saying that nearly 900 students have been treated for poisonings in the last three months. chief national investigative report reporter nima is there. >> well, now that they are starting to characterize them as poisoning, and those that we are speaking to on the ground are told not to speak to the media. some brave students though, that i have communicated with cnn and one of them described to us the chaos that took over after one of these poisoning incidents. take a listen to this. >> translator: it was a terrible situation. the girls had been falling on the floor and crying. some were unable to walk. really didn't want to leave one

another. >> reporter: parents as i am sure you can know are frantic and footage coming out of iran where one woman was pulled back by official by her head scarf as she sought to get answers going toe-to-toe with regime officials causing a lot of upset and controversy inside of iran, and the stranglehold on media communication, and the officials are olympianing to look into not just those who felt they could treat that mother that way in the moment of crisis, but into the investigating what these things are. if you are speaking to schoolgirls, jim and erica, they believe strongly that these incidents of poisoning are linked to the fact that so many schoolgirls took part in the protests, and so many of the schoolgirls came out to demand their basic freedoms. >> listen, we have seen a lot of violence there, right?

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their parents. my children were taken away from me. >> cnn's daniel dao is with us now, and we know that fentanyl overdoses and deaths are a major problem with this country, but what about the congresswoman said about what she claimed? >> well, the congresswoman attended the hearing and questioned this mother and then afterwards said, listen to this mother who lost two children to fentanyl poisoning and this is because of the biden's refusal to secure th e border becand sto the cartel's from murdering

americans everyday by chinese feintle. and this happened when there was no president biden. and so i asked her if she would like to correct it. and so, i will sanitize it, but do they give an f about your bs fact-checking. so another spokesperson i reached out about other false claims that marjorie taylor greene said about the same election saying that trump won georgia and that thousands of dead voters cast votes and the numbers for, and the same spokesperson said and i will sanitize this, too, f-off. >> than you for trying. okay. we will focus on the broader crisis here, because it is through multiple administrations. and now s, someone who has been trying to fight the fentanyl crisis, randy, thank you for

coming on. >> thank you, jim. listen, the deaths are off of the charts, and this statistic caught me, the deaths are 2,375%, and at least 817 in 2021 according to the medical examiner's office in your district. so tell us how you can, if you are responding to this, because the folks at home want to hear about the solutions, and you have a two-pronged approach to go out to prosecute the traffickers and outreach to the community, and give us the thumbnail. >> thank you, jim. i have met with grieving parents and siblings and friends who have lost loved ones, and we refuse to allow the deaths to be in vain, and that why we have a two-part strategy, and that is to relently pursue justice for the loved ones and justice to

target the suppliers who are responsible for the crisis and secondly to be just as aggressive in community to raise awareness about the dangers of fentanyl to prevent deaths. >> is this a border security issue? >> on the prosecution side and on the law enforcement side, we are targeting everyone from the cartel leadership to the drug trafficking organizations that operate at the border that bring the drugs into the united states through the southern district of california to the street level dealers, and we are making some progress on the prosecution side, and we are taking their drugs, and taking their money, and take their liberty and securing lengthy prison sentences from cartel leaders to the street-level dealers, but we know as a matter of security at the border and matter of public safety, we cannot prosecute our way out of the crisis, so we need to be in the community as law enforcement leaders, as

prosecutors as chiefs of police and federal agency leader and in the shelter and in classrooms. wiz i was in a elementary school, and when i asked about the fentanyl, the hands went up, and that is signs of awareness, because it will translate into saving lives. >> and one thing that struck me and i am seeing it in my own children's classrooms, too, and is that fentanyl is showing up in a host of places and not just heroin and other drugs like adderall that is used by teenagers and marijuana as well, and how do you get across the point that it could be anywhere and you can't trust anything even if you are experimenting with something that you think is a less risky drug. >> well, partly, because of you, that you gave that message on

national tv and it is just that partnership with the media and community and leadership with the state and local governments to say just that. it is everywhere. the cartels are cutting their drugs as a matter of reducing costs and making profits and it is everywhere in oxycodone pills and adderall and in powder form as well. we have seen an unfortunate trend where the people in the depths of the addiction are seeking out the fentanyl, but it is continuing to be spiked in powders as well as pill drugs. so it is everywhere and there is no safe experiment, bottom line. >> you have mentioned the oxycodone, and i have spoken to so many families sadly where the path is in pain after injury. myself and members of the family young and old have somewhat mild

or minor operation and always sent home with oxycodone and that is in itself not a problem, but some folks are hooked on some injury and find their way down the path, and is that something that is a big part of the phenomenon and how the country manages pain and what doctors give out to do that. >> sure. i can't speak to the results of those studies, but i can tell you that a significant number of the seizures in the southern district of california are what we call the blues or the m-30 pills. and we have had three very significant seizures since november. over 3 million pills, over 1 million each, and they were fake oxycodone pills, or the m-30, and so there is a significant number of those pills being seized in the southern district of california. >> the concern is bipartisan and no matter the party, the folks are seeing the effects of this

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well, before wordle or spelling bee, two games that take up a big chunk of my time, nearly everyone with a mobile device was playing hq trivia. >> i do. >> and the new glitch the rise and fall of hq trivia of the game show that went viral and crash and burned in record time. here is a preview. >> this is h.q. and i'm scott the host. >> and h.q. trivia was everywhere. >> you could win real money. >> it was so popular that the app is not ready to work. >> and it crashed. >> and that is when the cracks started showing. >> russ and collin were polar opposites. >> there was jealousy. >> it leads to chaos. >> joining us now the original host of hq trivia and i

understand that you like to go by quiz daddy, and i think that people do like this and remember it fondly. and my older one was fifth or sixth grade and his friends played it and it took off like a rocket. what was it about this game? >> well, erica, it was something new. it was fresh, and a live game show on your phone, and you don't have to be sitting on the couch locked into a television set somewhere and you could be mobile with it. out and about, and people were playing at basketball games and weddings, and i have pictures of people playing it anywhere. and you had to be in it to win it, and it was not like anything else, but you could play any time at your pleasure, but it was certain times of the day and 15 minutes and time element, and you could win money, and who does not want to win money, so we were giving away money. so a lot of factors.

>> so as quickly as it took off, and reaching 2 million players and so fast, and it just started to decline and then fell off of the cliff. so what happened? >> as many factors for the success there were for the ultimate demise. a lot of it is explained in the film obviously, with i am glad that the full story is getting out there, but i can narrow it down to this. i think that it was a great product, right. and it just did not iterate and evolve quickly enough. it was in a weird mix of tech and media, so in the tech world you have to iterate quickly, and how many times do you get update this or that, and we were not updating quickly enough. it is like a five-star meal, an michelin star meal and good once or twice, but if you have it

rida every day, it is going to get old. >> so you are on the rocket ship and what was it like after? >> well, prior to h.q. i was underemployed semi struggling comedian in new york city for like 12 years i was on that grind. this was out of the blue audition they got and i did not think much of it in the beginning, right, game show on the phone rg and who wants to do that? but it quickly took off, and as it did, i was thinking, wow, this could be the future of media and the future of television, and i was getting really comfortable, and just as i was getting into my groove it started to come down around me, so it was definitely a roller coaster for sure. >> so i understand that you have questions for us to test us out and i wanted to say that i am not competitive at all with erica here. >> no, jim is not competitive at all, ever.

>> bring it. >> and a good yaley of course. so here is what vi about these question and bear with me if i am rusty. and jim first, you are a city boy as am i, and mets friend, and deep into the blue and orange, and the question is, who has the most home runs in a mets' uniform, and a player in mets' history and mike piazza and david wright or darryl strawberry? >> i am going to be so embarrassed if i get this wrong. mike piazza. >> think old school. >> i am going to go hide in a hole somewhere. 52 dingers for straw, and so david wright. so, 83% of player got this wrong, erica.

which rice crispy's elf usually wear s a wears a marching band uniform? i am going with snap, crackle, pop? >> i am going crackle. >> it is pop. >> so, thank you, scott for coming on and embarrassing us both. okay. you are nailing it. >> that is what we do. >> and catch the new cnn film "glitch, the rise and fall of hq

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