violence on january. i'll read you what says. no part of an official responsibility includes the incite mment of imminent violen. what this means is the justice department is telling the appeals court here in washington that is considering these cases that the president doesn't have absolute immunity against these lawsuits. a more narrow ruling that the president is taking that he should have some immunity for things having to do with his political speech. >> stay on top of that. appreciate your time. thank you. i'm abbi phillip in

washington. glad to have you. here right now in south carolina, there are major developments in alex murdaugh's double murder trial. the prosecution now respond ing after the defense presented its closing arguments yesterday. defense attorney jim griffin made an emotional plea when wrapping up his presentation. >> there are two words that justice demands this thises case and those two words are not guilty. the oath you have taken in this case it requires a verdict not dwlt. on behalf of alex, of buster, on behalf of maggie and on behalf of my friend paul, i respectfully request that you do not compound a family tragedy with another thank you. >> just before closing arguments

began, the judge remove d a jurr for discussing the case outside of the trial. diane gallagher is outside of the court in south carolina. diane, what more did the defense say today as they were presenting to the jury in these final hours of this trial? >> reporter: jim griffin spoke for about 2 hours and 15 minutes in his closing argument. he hit three major points. the first being the fact that alex murdaugh says he didn't do this. he's innocent until proven guilty. the second part there is the proof beyond a reasonable doubt. we're talking about guilt. that's something we opportunitied griffin to talk about today. because the defense has sort of been trying to create that reasonable doubt, point out circumstantial evidence that doesn't necessarily directly focus on alex murdaugh. throughout the entire trial.

the third aspect of his argument is law enforcement. they have the entire time throughout this nearly six-week trial tried to characterize the investigation into the murders of paul and maggie murdaugh as messy, sloppy, incomplete. they said today that law enforcement failed miserably with their investigation and pointed out that in part, they believe that's why alex murdaugh was indicted in the first place. >> three out of the four things that you'll be deliberating on for the indictments aren't true. and there's no loaded gun. we're left with the lie we are left with the lie. he did lie. he told you he lied. and he told you why he lied.

he said he lied because that's what adducts do. addicts lie. >> that lie that he's talking about is that bomb shell testimony from alex murdaugh himself when he took the stand admitting that he was, in fact, there at the kennels moments before the state says that paul ask maggie murdaugh were killed there at that location. at the hunting property. he said that he started this lie initially because he felt p paranoid and he kept the lie up. nay acknowledged that they have a widely circumstantial case, but they pointed out that circumstantial fd is still evidence. when you have a bunch of it, you are still able to come to a guilty verdict. the defense and the prosecution

feeling differently about the strength of the state's case here. the closing arguments going once again over what the definition of reasonable doubt is when trying to get to the jur y. >> speaking of the jury, one juror was removed from this case at this very late stage. tell us about what happened. they are probably going to get the case and this morning before the closing arguments when the defense began, the judge noted they had something to talk about. and determined even though they

told the judge she had not, perhaps she had been talking to three people about the case discussing the nefd some way with outsiders from the case. that's a big no-no. you're not supposed to do that. every time they leave the room, when he dismissed, she had been a good juror who focused on the case and he could tell she was. they could not keep her on. she asked it she had anything left in the jury room. she noted that she had a dozen eggs back there. this is how that went down. take a listen. >> you left some stuff in there? what do you have in there? >> some eggs. >> a dozen eggs? >> you want to leave eggs or take the eggs. you're going to take the eggs. >> again, not exactly what the judge or anybody was expecting to hear. it seems that the explanation was these jurors have been together for a long time.

one of the jurors brought some eggs in potentially from their farm or something like that to share with their fellow jurors. they all had them still. i don't think anybody expected to hear they had a dozen eggs back there. >> we only have one alternate left. >> i have so many questions, but you make a good point. this is the last possible moment to be replaceing a juror. they only have one left after that. thank you so much for all of that reporting. now we have criminal defense attorney sara azari with us. let's start on the serious stuff here. the core of the defense presentation to the jury at this point is that there is no hard evidence or not much hard evidence trying alex murdaugh to this case. the defense said in their evidence that law enforcement failed miserably to pull dna from maggie or paul.

they only took dna from alex. what do you make of that argument altogether? >> look, remember that the prosecution in a double homicide trial, three hours of argument, made not one mention about the crime scene. they completely i ggnored the facts that were bad for them. they embraced the funk. he's a liar. he's lied, but he's also an addict. he was under a lot of scrutiny and had skeletons in his closet. he didn't want to be in the spotlight. so that is what a good lawyer does. we don't ugh norse the bad facts. . we explain them. we did a great job weaving in the very important instructions for the defense. the presumption of innocence, the burden of proof, the definition of reasonable doubt. ask more importantly, circumstantial evidence instruction that says essentially to a jury if there's

more than one inference on a specific fact, you have to find it on the pseudoof innocence, not guilt. these are really important instructions for this jury. and listen, it's ironic that in a double murder trial that it's the defense coming forward with the science and the lack thereof as opposed to the prosecution presenting the science and being beyond a reasonable doubt. i think the argument today was very effective. i think he hit all the points. there's a lot of criticism about not as dynamic, but neither side was. at least we didn't have professor waters slouched over. i found that to be so offensive yesterday. >> you want to play a portion of the chief prosecutor, his closing arguments to the jury. he is describing here the moments in which maggie and paul were murdered. listen. >> sees what happens and comes running over there running to

her baby. probably the last thing on his meind. he's running to her baby. while he's picked up the blackout and at close range with no defensive wounds. he's fooled them all. he fooled maggie and paul too. they paid for it with their lives. >> don't let him fool you too. >> so in the absence of the science, there's no murder weapon. will that work or resinate with the jury? >> at this point, the jurors have pretty much made up their

mind. i think it goes to its consciousness of guilt that he lied about being at the kennels before the murders. but griffin blew up the timeline it's all about this phone. we're all dead because we're not using our phone now. that's effective. is that lie really that material? does it even matter or is it consciousness of guilt if at the same time he's denying the kennels, he's pressing for data that is exculpatory that show he was not with maggie at the time. and on this nonsense about my baby, we don't know what maggie and paul were doing. these are not facts and evidence. this is boarderline prosecutoril misconduct. he's misleading the jury. i think a jury can make an infrempbs that they want to protect her son, but it's not a fact in evidence. and it's very misleading.

i was surprised there was no objections, but i hadn't seen any objections either way throughout the closings. >> i was struck by his use of the word probably when describing that scene. that he sort of said inferred, played out in that kennel. as always, thank you very much. you can catch the true crime show death by fame. it's on investigation discover on mondays at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. there's been an arrest in michigan that illustrates the threat facing public officials and jewish people in america. this time it's a man who was taken into custody for allegedly threatening to kill jewish members of michigan's government. the state attorney general says the fbi informed her she was one of the targets. unfortunately, this isn't new territory for the state of michigan. several men were recently sentenced for plotting to kidnap governor gretchen whitmer.

paula palo sand volume is tracking this. >> i had an opportunity to read through the pages linked to the defendant in this case. when you read some of the messages, they can be described as anti-semitic, but bizarre, unhinged and really alarming, including this particular post we want to show you that dates back to february 17th. that's what fbi agents first noticed when they allegedly went on twitter and wrote that he would, quote, quarter out punishment of death to anyone that is jewish in michigan government. the very next day, the fbi's national threat operations center relayed that to fbi agents working with state place that were able to speak to the mother who told investigators she believed her son was in texas and that had access to multiple firearms. they put use to the phone they were able to track them down and arrest them. we're still working out the

details on a timeline, but everything does suggest he was taken to custody extremely quickly, preventing a tragedy here. the more we learn, the more questions. there was a protection order filed against them. and perhaps what escalated this to actual threat is when authorities found out there were three handguns that were registered in his name. and that's escalated the situation. we know he had a scheduled court date, but just to close out the earlier point, this is not unfamiliar to michigan state officials that saw the threat of political violence with the foiled kidnapping plot in 2020 against the government author. we heard from the atl say this morning they are monitoring this ink increased threat. through covid and antigovernment conspiracies coming together

with anti-semitic ideas and for certain individuals, the concern is that they will actually go through with these potential threats. >> it's very concerning indeed. thank you very much for that reporting. now to the skies. we are learning more about another series of frightening incidents involving u.s. air travel. in minutes, a suspect will be in court after allegedly try iing bring live, employeesives on to a flight in pennsylvania. in jackson vul, florida, a spirit airlines flight was diverted after smoke filled the cabin. first responders removed ten people from the plane and last night seven people were taken to the hospital after severe turbulence on a flight from texas to germ. as you can see here, that bumpy ride left the cabin trashed. the plane had to be diverted to northern virginia. we are covering all of this. let's start with the pennsylvania suspect. they are at the explosives were

found. what are we learning in this case? >> what i want to say is first off, we're going to learn more, as you said, in just about 15 minutes when the suspect is expected to make his first court appearance in federal court. but let me tell you what we do know about this suspect so far. we know his name is mark. he's 40 years old from pennsylvania. and the fbi says that he on monday morning tried to check a bag with explosives right here at this airport. but that suitcase did not go far. the reason is because tsa screeners caught something unusual in their bag and the tsa and an fbi bomb technician found these items they found powder consistent with commercial grade fireworks, a lighter, a pipe with white residue on it, a wireless drill and two outlets taped together. now the bag also had a luggage

tag on it that had the name. so the airport called out his name on the pa system on monday ask then security camera footage sho showed that gentleman walking out of the airport as soon as he heard his name. police knew the name because of the lugginage tag. they arrested him without incident. this is not his first encounter with the law. he's been charged in pennsylvania before, but they have been for much lesser offenses than the federal charges that he's facing. pz harassment, minor theft, but the federal charges that he now faces include possessing an explosive in an airport and attempt ining to place an exploe on a lane. we should know more at 1:30 at the federal courthouse. >> danny freeman, thank you very much for that. i do believe right now president biden is over on capitol hill where he's about to

meet with democrats. he's just entered capitol hill. you see him there with chuck schumer, the senate majority leader. he's over on capitol hill as husband party is facing a high stakes showdown with republicans over raising the debt ceiling. this is a moment where president biden is trying to rally the troops here on capitol hill ahead of what will be a really tense and very important next few months on chul. what's his message going to be to them? >> this is genuinely the case when it comes to the debt ceiling increase. every moment when you talk to democrats matters they acknowledge that keeping together, staying unified in the face now of divided government for the first time in president biden's two plus years in office

is critical. it was critical through his first two years. now they only control one chamber. it's worth noting the president is going to release his budget on march 9th. that's a new starting point for negotiations or at least discussions about ab issue with the white house has been steadfast. they are not bluffing when they say there will be no talks or cuts accepted or negotiations at all when it comes to raising the debt ceiling. they are willing to have talks long-term when it comes to deficit and debt issues. so we heard this last night speaking to house democrats at their retreat. the idea that based on what they accomplished in the first two years in office, democrats need to talk about that.

they need to let constituents know that these programs, many of which have not been implemented or just in the process of getting going, they need to be laid out to people in districts and states. that will be critical not just to the programs themselves, but to potential political success going forward. you see the president was walking through the corridor with chuck schumer. the two are very close. 36 years up there as a senator. talks often ab his time there. often speaks to lawmakers. sometimes to the chagrin of his advisers given the fact their conversations will happen late at night or for a longer period of time. it underscores as respect for the institution as somewhat nostalgia for the institution, but also recognition of the importance of the role of the institution plays. that's as much a part of why he's up there and having this discussion with the members of the democratic caucus as anything else. >> very few people know capitol

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russia's unprovoked invasion of ukraine a year ago. it comes at a time of the highest tensions between the two countries in decades. blinken says he underscored u.s. support for ukraine and he also brought up russia's recent suspension of the new nuclear arms treaty. and he call ed for the release f paul whelan, the american wrongfully detained in russia. let's talk with our security analyst. that's not particularly surprise ing. but this says blink was the one who approached lav rof on the sideline. why does the u.s. want to have this kind of engagement with russia at this moment? >> there's been very little conversation at high levels

between russia and the united states in the year plus a few days since the invasion happened. there was only one phone call. the last time they met in person, blinken confronted him with the evidence that an invasion was about to happen, ask he continued his denial that russia was going to invade. we believe that he wasn't told about the invasion until just hours before it happened. so there's an interesting question about whether he's the right person to be talking to. since you can't have president biden talking to putin these days, this is the only real channel left. and trying to get paul whelan out, but also communicating directly with the russians a about the long-term danger of their suspension of involvement

in the new treaty. because that treaty expires in three years. ask is there's almost no chance that there's going to be a negotiation to extend it. there will be no limits on either country's nuclear forces. >> what is the strategic value for russia in suspending their participation in this treaty. are they now free to engage in expanding their arsenal? any putting the genie back in the bottle if that happens? >> that's the big problem. and i think i'm very concerned that they might not be able to be put back in the bottle at this point. so what the russians want to do is they could potentially be able to use this lack of limits. they have a little less than 6,000 war heads right now this their nuclear arsenal. they could expand that number and they could also develop newer weapons. we talked about the hypersonic weapons capability.

we also know that they were planning some of the nuclear capabilities. if they want to modernize their nuclear forces to bring this period. so that is something that we would definitely have to watch for. >> you brought up paul whelan. at this moment of low communication, high tensions between russia, are you sensing that there's any possibility that they could be closer to freeing him? >> the problem right now is that the united states doesn't have somebody to frad but the problem right now is we're not holding a russian spy and the russians are treating whelan as if he was a

spy. there was brief discussion as a 3-way deal in which a russian spy being held by germany would be released, but germany is not a party to this conversation. it's underway for the whelan piece of this. and the other part of it that's got everybody concerned, secretary blaingen talked about this two weeks ago at the security conference. they will be coming together harder than ever that the united states was trying to double down on sanctions with its allies. that leaves less and less room for compromise. that's really where i'm concerned as pointed out before. >> i think that is the long-term problem for the globe perhaps it

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just in to cnn, the justice department says the former president trump cannot claim total presidential immunity in civil cases related to january 6th. >> the doj is urge ing an appea court to reject the claims and let some lawsuits move trd. evan perez is joining us with this report ing. tell us about this doj brief. >> this is a big deal. the justice department is saying the former president is not entitled to complete an absolute immunity with the lawsuits. these are lawsuits filed by democratic members of congress, members of the capitol police, who were victims of the violence on january 6th. so the justice department is taking the position that certainly presidents have a level of immunity while they are

in office and after they leave office. but in this case because of the bryce vooi lens involved, it's not the same thing. so really just a part of what it says in the brief filed in court today with the appeals court, no part of a president's official responsibilities includes the incite mment of imminent violen. and the jgts department is taking a position that they want the appeals court to issue a narrow ruling. they want them to essentially allow for perhaps the president to claim can immunity in other things. plit kl or electoral speech, but not for things related to this. they are not taking a position on whether the former president has immunity on criminal matters. so that's something that is going to be very relevant as the investigations continue into january 6th. something that the special counsel is looking at. >> further evidence that this is

not all over. thank you for that. let's bring in a cnn legal analyst on this. this doj argument, they are balancing two things. one, the future presidents, not just trump ask what this could mean for them, but also this issue of violence. what do you think this means about the cases that trump could be facing, both civil and potentially criminal? >> starting with the civil cases this reduces the likelihood that the courts are going to allow him to block those cases. so that means he's look ing at discovery, he's looking at a possible trial, and he's looking at damages. but the larger significance is the criminal cases that georgia,

atlanta da said that charges are eminent there. and even though doj says we're not reaching the criminal cases, this is a sign of doj saying ab attempted coup is outside the outer most boundary. so it's a bad sign if he gets charged in georgia or other criminal cases. >> it's very significant. i want to switch gears to another story. we have more court filings expected to come in this massive defamation lawsuit. and already we have seen in the evidence that the network knowingly pushed election lies about the 2020 election. and those revealed the fox board memb

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just a couple hundred players in august of 2017. and then it hit 2 million daily players. just seven months later. so what was behind that? why did this really touch such a nerve with people at that time? >> it was such a new concept. the idea of playing a game show on your phone where you can actually win money. you weren't just watching a game show like people watch "jeopardy" and shout the answers. you can play along, be interactive and winning yourself. so i think the technology of it, which five years ago was pretty revolutionary, now we see live streaming happening everywhere. that was the first part of it. and the second part was it was entertaining. i think did a pretty good job hosting it. people wanted to play again and again. and word of mouth. it took this thing from a couple dozen players to millions in a matter of months. pz. >> i'm sure the money didn't hurt at all. you were getting cash out of

this. so as quickly as it took off, it really just kind of imploded. the numbers really dropped off. there's a lot going on behind the scenes in the preview for this documentary. what was happening there >> a lot was happening. as you can imagine, it was difficult because most people did not have access to what was happening behind the scenes in the office. people were seeing this app take off and go viral. but very quickly into the success of hq, cracks were happening. there was a lot of tension between the founders of the company. it's one thing to conceive an idea for an app and design the logo. it's another one to manage employees and run a company. and the guy in charge, this was not the right person at the helm. took a company, which had all this potential and promise to be the future of television. $100 million evaluation and it took it to zero in two years. there was a tragic death of the other cofounder.

there was a lot happening. all told in the film, which i hope people watch sunday night. >> that's really wild. i'm told you have some questions for me. i'm not great at trivia, but try me. >> i do. this first one is relatable. you are a mother now. i want to know if you know, what were the most popular baby names in the u.s. in 2021. charlotte, sophia and olivia or liam. >> i'm going olivia and liam. >> you must have done your research, with sophia and william. can you get the next oneone, ab. this is most savage ask. in the harry potter books which is not one of the four house mascots, raven, eagle or badge

earp. tricky question. >> i'm going to say eagle. >> 88% of the people got it wr wrong. raven. despite raven claw being the name, eagle. and that was a cuftough one, ab. >> i didn't do too bad. >> you're a hall of fame. >> thank you, scott. everyone can tune into the new cnn film "glitch: the rise and fall of hq trivia" it aired sunday night at 9:00 p.m. right here on cnn. and is royal retaliation, queen elizabeth gave prince harry and meghan a home. but there is a new kid in town and it seems he's got other plans. that story inext. to help you achieve it.

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they've been asked to vacate frogmore cottage, the five-bedroom home that the queen gave to them. on their royal wedding. kate from those not on the inside to the outside, this kind of looks like retaliation after this tell-all period for both harry and meghan. what do you think it is? >> well, abby, we can hear initially that the movement ford evicting harry and meghan from frogmore cottage happened not long after the publication of "spare" back in january. and it seems that the king has may the decision that it's not their home anymore. sources say they're distressed. that they consider it their house. it looks like what the king is moving around, moving everyone around. prince andrew, a disgraced member of the royal family has a large property at windsor castle. it has a swimming pool, very

large and the king wants him to move into frogmore and someone in his house, possibly william and kate, we don't know yet. but it's not the same, it's their home so, certainly, i think charles is really getting tough here, that's what he's saying. and i think, certainly, people who are anti-harry and meghan have received this very well. >> and i think for those asking is there a prospect of reconciliation for this family. it does seem to indicate, at least from king charles, he's moving in the opposite direction. >> well, there's been a lot of conversation, will harry and meghan be invited to the coronation in may. i was convince they had would be. i think it would be a terrible mistake not to invite them. certainly what charles is saying inviting them to the coronation but other parts perhaps you won't be invited to. and you aren't going to live on a royal property. all of these properties are owned by the monarch, and they

can give and take. they've got memories for it but also they suffered for it, because let's not forget with the british press around the world how much they were criticized for the $2.2 million to renovate it. it was crown property, it was crown property that was renovated and harry and meghan profited from that and now it's been taken from them. >> and i have to ask you about prince andrew of it all, he is facing so many scandals. do you think it's wise to have the optics of that to move harry and meghan out for speaking out, and move prince andrew in? >> i think that charles wants andrew out of the royal fold. he wants him out of this giant royal lodge. we understand that andrew does not want to move. he is going to resist it. he does not want to go to frogmore cottage, andrew very grand, he probably think it's

below him to go there. and the optics is that andrew g getting the royal home. and then getting andrew of the big houses but doesn't want to him him out of windsor entirely. he's a loose cannon. he didn't want him living anywhere which would be even more chaotic. >> yeah, i think it's very much seen by the royal family as a demotion getting him out of this massive grand house, as you described it, and into something a little bit more quaint, if you can call it that. but kate williams, thank you very much for all of that. >> okay. >> that does it for me on the "newsroom." thank you for joining us. but don't go anywhere yet, we have much more news right now on cnn. ♪ hello, everyone. i'm bianna golodryga. welcome to "cnn newsroom." >> i'm victor blackwell. michigan's attorney general says that she was one of th