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started making a lot of noise about how this is soft on crime. they put forward legislation and he does an about-face. and he says i don't support changes the d.c. council has put forward such as lowering penalties for carjackings. if the senate overturns this, i'll sign it. it's created an uproar with democrats. >> and how are democrats responding? >> in a variety of ways. in the senate some of them who are mindful of this notion that they don't want to be seen as soft on crime, they will vote to repeal it. but there are other groups who are saying, look, all you're doing is cow tying to republicans here. and the district should be able
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to governor itself, the district should have autonomy and some of them are saying they're disappointed. d.c. has this right, it's a sad day for d.c. home rule. deeply disappointed. it is a very divisive issue for the democrats and it is a har b harbinger on the issue that democrats may have on crime going into this election. >> certainly something to watch. thank you so much. it is the top of the hour on "cnn newsroom." hello, everyone. >> today disgraced former south carolina attorney alex murdaugh was sentenced to life in prison for the murders of his wife, maggie and his youngest son paul. a judge handed down two consecutive life sentences without parole for the killings. his defense team plans to file an appeal in the next few days. before he was sentenced, the former lawyer maintained his innocence. >> i'll say it again.
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i respect this court. but i'm innocent. i would never under any circumstances hurt my wife maggie and i would never under any circumstances hurt my son paul-paul. >> it might not have been you. it might have been the monster you've become when you take 15, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 opioid pills. maybe you become another person. >> cnn's diane gallagher has been following this case from south carolina. it was really fascinating to hear judge newman give those remarks and his thoughts and his connection to the murdaugh feedback and even alex himself seeing each other in passing before he handed down the sentence. what has the reaction been there? >> you know, the reaction from people just around the area
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where this trial has just completely encompassed this city, as soon as it came down, there were people who started cheering, shouting. there's been a bit of almost like a pep rally vibe outside of the courthouse which is strange because this is a double murder trial. this is serious. this is somber. but so much of it is rooted in that family history that you mentioned. the judge newman mentioned it as well. it's about power and privilege. the lead prosecutor said proving that no one is above the law. there were people who were surprised, including those who followed this case closely that the jury came back so quickly. the judge, of course, putting down that life without parole sentence, consecutive sentences for the murder of maggie and paul. he did not pull any punches. judge clifton neumann spoke for quite a while.
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he's a respected, well-known, even-tempered judge here in south carolina and he laid into alex murdaugh. >> and i know you have to see paul and maggie during the nighttimes when you're attempting to go to sleep. i'm sure they come to visit you. i'm sure. >> every night. >> i'm sure. and they will continue to do so and reflect on the last time they looked you in the eyes. as you look the jury in the eyes. >> reporter: there was a juror who spoke with abc who said that it was alex murdaugh's lie but also his testimony, when he got on the stand for those 14 hours last week. he just didn't buy it, the juror said. he simply did not find alex murdaugh to be sincere and could
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not get past the lie that murdaugh told over and over again that is he was not in the kennels in the moments before his wife and son were killed. his defense attorney said today that they do plan to appeal this. >> it was chilling to hear judge newman say that maggie and paul will continue to haunt you at night. >> dave, let me start with you, on the question of how quickly this jury returned, they said -- we know they had the case for three hours, but i want you to listen to that juror who spoke with abc news about actually how long it took to determine that alex murdaugh is guilty. let's watch. >> did you feel like he was a liar? >> a good liar. >> i didn't see any true remorse
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or any compassion or anything. >> even though he cried a lot on the stand. >> he never cried. >> he never cried. what do you mean by that? >> all he did was blow snot. >> how do you know he wasn't crying. >> i saw his eyes. i was this close to him. >> when you first got in the room, you took a vote. >> it was two not guilty, one not sure and nine guilty. >> what was your vote? >> guilty. >> started deliberating, going through the evidence. >> the about 45 minutes later after all our deliberating, we figured it out. >> 45 minutes, are you surprised by that? >> yeah, i wasn't surprised by
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the guilty verdict, but i was surprised at the speed. it took three hours. those two jurors who originally thought he was innocent switched in 45 minutes. that is unusual. i guess they didn't have the courage of their convictions. but the evidence was overwhelming. the key bit of evidence was that video that paul murdaugh took. he solved his ow n >> the background for 14 hours and answer all of those questions and go into detail and admit that i am a liar, yes, i have stolen, yes i have a drug
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problem but i didn't kill my family. ultimately, the jurors didn't see it that way. >> no, his testimony was very poor. in fact, i think it was border line atrocious. jurors don't like it when witnesses are being questioned and they don't answer. what he kept doing continually was going beyond the scope of the questions. he kept trying to interject his own narrative. he was evasive. and his testimony was self-serving. jurors do not like that. he should have stuck to quick yes-or-no answers when he was being crossed and as the juror spoke to you indicated, they didn't buy it. jurors have good bs detectors and he didn't pull another lie over on him. >> i wonder, he used it today and i think one of the prosecutors questioned on the first day of his questioning of alex murdaugh about the use of paul-paul and mags and said have
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you referred to your son as paul-paul at any other point in time and he said he couldn't remember. is that typically effective using some of those monikers and pet names? >> it's effective if it's genuine. and it did not come off as genuine. and i think the testimony was necessitated by the video with his voice in the background. but once he started to testify, look, lawyers love to testify. they use words to persuade people and once he was on the stand, he couldn't contain himself and when he was using those terms and trying to endear himself with the jury, they didn't think it was authentic. they rejected it and it was a hail mary that they had to testify. and like most hail marys, consistent work. >> we know the defense attorney is going to be appealing in ten days. any grounds for appeal in your view? >> they could say that by allowing the evidence of the financial crimes, it went beyond motive to what's called propensity of evidence.
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meaning he's a bad guy, you should find him guilty. there were questions from the prosecutors that led the witnesses to say, yeah, now that i know that, my opinion of him has changed. that could give grounds for an appeal in the end, this case depended on his lies and the jurors didn't believe the lies. so even if there was some conduct that could be ripe for appeal, i think it's harmless error. the bottom line was, he lied about his alibi and he lied about the reason why he was lying which is that the opioid made me paranoid. he's saying that it made him so paranoid that he lied all the time, but not paranoid enough for him to kill. >> there are these financial crimes of which he's been charged. he's admitted to stealing money during this trial. does it behoove you at all to fight those? >> he admitted to the crimes on the stand. i think the reason why he did so was that he was so worried about
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his family name, his legacy, he was willing to go down for being a fraud but not for being a family annihilator. that was a bridge too far for him. today, he said i still maintain my innocence. he's going to have to live with the fact that he's now a convicted murderer, whether he likes it or not. i don't think it matters with the financial crimes because he's going to spend the rest of his days in a prison cell, either for the murders or for the 99 counts that are yet to come. >> family annihilator, that was a question that the prosecutor, one of the first questions he asked him, are you a family annihilator. >> indeed. >> dave, thank you both. the man accused of threatening to kill jewish government officials in michigan has just been ordered by a judge to stay in jail. >> authorities say the man posted about his plot on twitter last month. the fbi says he wrote posts supporting an antigovernment extremist movement that is classified as domestic
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terrorism. what can you tell us about the hearing? >> reporter: well, we just got out of that hearing where he appeared in person and in an orange jumpsuit and glasses. he consented to continue being detained but he distributed a letter through his attorney challenging the personal jurisdiction of the court. we haven't seen the contents of that letter, but it's likely because as the fbi has said, he does not believe that the -- either law enforcement or the government has jurisdiction over him. nonetheless, he remains in federal custody and the threats he's accused of making were allegedly posted online while he was out of state and one of them reads in part, that i'm heading back to michigan now, threatening to carry out the punishment of death to anyone that is jewish in the michigan government if they don't leave and confess. any attempt to subdue me will be met with deadly force in self-defense. he was eventually arrested but the attorney general confirmed
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what a source had told cnn that she was a target of an alleged target of this person and a state lawmaker has also come forward telling cnn that she was notified she was an alleged target and that to her, it wasn't really a surprise. take a listen. >> we've seen the rise in anti-semitism pretty much since the charlottesville, when president trump came into 2016, we saw this rise and wave of this right christian national group. and it really, really, really hit thefire when kanye west said he was going to go defcon three on all of the jews back in october and november. >> reporter: the suspect is accused of violating international -- or interstate communications laws when it comes to threats. we have not seen a plea at this point. when i approached his public defender afterwards, he did not have any additional comment. >> thank goodness this was all thwarted by authorities.
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accepted norfolk southern's remediation plan. miguel, what are you hearing? >> reporter: people are very upset. they want answers, they want certainty and because of the complexity of this disaster, they're not going to get it very quickly. one big piece of this cleanup is about to take place and that's the removal of the tracks and the soil, the contaminated soil underneath the tracks. the way this will work says the epa and norfolk southern is that the southern track, two tracks that run through that area, the southern tracks will be removed. the soil under it removed. it will be replaced with fresh soil, the tracks will be put back in place and then the tracks on the north side, that same process will occur there. one other thing the epa has instructed norfolk southern to do is text for dioxides in town.
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and that can be harmful to human health. the epa has a regime that they're going to put in place to test for those. and there are elevated levels of chemicals in east palestine but they're still within epa standards within human health. they're seeing a slight increase in some of those chemicals. the ntsb issuing an advisory to other freight carriers that the caps on the valves of those railcars, they should check those because the ones that ended up having to be vented here, the caps were made of aluminum. the fire around them got so hot, that it melted them, preventing those emergency vents from venting the chemicals as it's supposed to work. people want things to happen very quickly here and this big piece of it, the removal of the track and is soil, it's going to take awhile. at least until the end of april.
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the congressional ethics committee says it's extending an
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inquiry into alexandria ocasio-cortez. now it was this dress that made headlines when she wore to it the met gala in 2021. many noting that tax the rich was a bold message for such a swank event. >> the ethics committee says the congresswoman may have accepted gifts when she showed up on the red carpet talking about accessories and shoes and hair and makeup and the dress itself. manu raju is joining us. tell us about this. >> reporter: the house ethics committee is conducting a bipartisan investigation after an outside body called the office of congressional ethics opened an inquiry and found that roughly $5,600 worth of services, hair, makeup, transportation, a handbag, was not paid for by alexandria ocasio-cortez as is required.
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they said if the congresswoman accepted impermissible gifts, they may have violated house rules and federal law. the report notes that alexandria ocasio-cortez did ultimately pay for those services but it wasn't until after the investigation was open. ocasio-cortez agrees it should have happened earlier and she put in appropriate safeguards to ensure that it won't happen again. her attorney said she realized she had to pay for these things personally and she ensured that she complied with all applicable ethics rules. the committee will investigate here and decide what if any recourse is needed. >> some democrats are not happy with the president for saying he won't veto a republican-led effort crime bill. >> reporter: given the fact that
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just last month, 173 house democrats opposed an effort to rescind d.c.'s new crime law. it would change mandatory sentences. but democrats say the district of columbia has a right to governor itself as they push for statehood and say the district should be fully autonomous and congress should not interfere in the district's laws and regulations. but the white house changed its approach. while it issued this statement a month ago when the house voted on this matter and said that while we work towards making washington, d.c., the 51st state of our union, congress should respect the district of columbia autonomy. it opposed the republican effort to rescind the law. yesterday when biden came to capitol hill, he told senate democrats that he in fact would allow that republican-led effort to go into law. siding with republicans to rescind the d.c.-led law.
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earlier today the white house was pressed about their -- the reversal on this issue and they said he never said he would veto the measure. >> we never laid out where the president was going to -- was going to go once it came to his desk because we wanted to allow congress to move forward in the way that they normally do with the mechanism when a piece of legislation moves forward. and so we never said anything at this time. >> but that position really is now going over well with many members, inclu including some o same side of the white house. a lot of consternation on the hill. the effort is expected to go into law, and the new crime law expected to be repealed by congress as soon as next week.
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>> thank you. turning to the republican party now where the deepening divide over whether former president trump should lead the party. ron desantis and former vice president pence is skipping cpac. >> but nikki haley is attending both events. kristen holmes joins us from cpac live. how was haley received today? >> reporter: well, victor, when it came to her speech, she had a very lukewarm response. there was a little bit of tepid applause as well as some light booing when she said that she was running for president. but, of course, this isn't that big of a surprise here. we talked about this yesterday that so many of these attendees are here to see former president trump. so many of these speakers believe that former president trump should be president, that he should be running alone in
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2024. again, not that surprising. but despite this pushback and the enthusiasm around trump, i didn't stop haley from making a pitch for herself. while she didn't mention trump by name, there were times where it seemed pretty clear who she was talking about, especially when she was talking about generational change. >> if you're tired of losing, put your trust in a new generation and if you want to win, not just as a party, but as a country, then stand with me. >> reporter: so after the speech, though, it got a little bit ugly in the hallway. we saw haley taking pictures with some of the attendees and that's when people started heckling around here and we saw a number of other people starting to yell her name over and over again. this is just a microcosm of the party, but it does give you a glimpse into what is expected to be a very ugly republican primary this cycle.
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>> and she's not the one that the former president is trashing now publicly. that seems to be ron desantis. he's sort of welcomed her decision to jump in. kristen holmes, thank you. >> we're joined by two cnn political commentators, a former white house communications director under president trump and a democratic strategist. welcome to you both. cpac is the trump show. the benefit ambassador haley to show up today? >> i give her credit for trying to make her case to a trump audience. does it make more sense to be there and try to, you know -- she's going to lose the straw poll, is it better to do that or to be in iowa, to be in an early state making her case? there's some benefit to her being out early and the second declared candidate after donald trump. but this encapsulates the problems in the gop. it is so hard to take on donald
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trump. so much polling shows that ron desantis is trailing him in most of the polls. she's got more she's got to do. but credit for showing up. >> maria, what is the democrat's take thus far. earlier we had heard from president biden saying that he would love to paraphrase another round going against trump himself. how do democrats feel? i mean, would they feel competent enough that, once again, president biden could beat donald trump? >> well, there's no question that joe biden is the only candidate who has ever beat donald trump. so i think he would be in a very strong position to do so again if donald trump ends up being the candidate on the other side, especially with all of the achievements and everything that president biden will have to show for his first four years in office. but having said that, we cannot rest on our laurels. i think that we need to be concerned with whoever ends up
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being the nominee because that's how you win. by understanding that you have to continue to earn the vote, everyone's vote, every single day, but what i will say is, what cpac is showing us is that the republican party has no idea who it is and for the folks at cpac, donald trump is their guy. and there were a couple of pieces of reporting that came out that said that folks who spoke to the people at cpac today wanted that -- the hole republican nomination to be shut down now. they don't want anybody else to run. and what we have seen from the republican party and what donald trump has proven is that he is the only one that knows how to win a very ugly nomination fight and i think what we can all agree on, democrats and republicans, is that this is going to be a very ugly nomination fight that is going to double down on extremism, on the maga agenda, all of which
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were roundly defeated in 2020, 2022, 2018, even, and the majority of american voters have said no to that. so that's what democrats are going to be focusing on. >> yeah, listen, there is this obvious split and we've been here before. we were here after the insurrection and is trump politically dead then. after the midterms and the election deniers, is the party ready to move on. and now we're seeing the split again. he's leading in the latest polls. it's important to say although, maria highlights -- she says this is who the party is, it's hard to beat trump, ran onna mcdaniels is not at cpac. is there different than post insurrection, post midterms? >> maybe ten years cpac was the premiere conservative event, ronald reagan, josh bush, john
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mccain. it's much more representative of the fringe in the party and the ultra maga base. i don't know that it's reflective of a ton. it does underscore the challenge in the primary of trying to, you know, gain some ground if you're someone like a nikki haley running on next-generational change. but it's apples and oranges when you're dealing with trump. this time ahead of 2016, this time in 2015, jeb bush was the front-runner. things can change in someone else's favor. let's see how it goes. i don't think it's impossible that somebody could emerge -- ron desantis is traveling to iowa. he's regularly polling as number two. there's still a chance we could see someone other than a trump as the head of the party. >> ron desantis hasn't announced yesterday but we've seen the former president continue to attack him. but it's interesting to see some of the interviews that we've
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conducted, people there aren't trashing desantis. but they seem to like him. is this a situation that as soon as he does announce, they're going to have to support one or the other and they'll probably go for trump? >> it's hard to say. i think desantis is the most palatable alternative to the ult ultra trump candidates. the struggle i anticipate with a desantis, you lose some of the more mainstream republicans who want to see a conservative approach rather than a populist approach. i think there's going to be a number of names that still declare. i think we're going to hash these battles out and i do think whichever party runs somebody other than who they did in 2020, it's going to be the favored winner. >> before we go, reconcile the president's position of being for d.c. statehood and believing in home rule with overruling the decision of the local government on crime. >> i think that's a tough one, victor. as a longtime d.c. resident, i
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am very disappointed about what's going on in congress right now and i hope that democrats find the backbone to reject this resolution that not only goes against home rule and goes against people's votes counting and people's voices counting in the capitol of the united states of america, but it also proves to me that democrats are running scared on crime and that is a dangerous position for us to be in because whenever we see the ground on republican talking points, we lose and we have a great story to tell, even with the crime bill that the council passed in d.c. that actually ups penalties for serious crimes and has higher penalties than most states in the union, including delaware, including georgia, marjorie taylor greene, including ohio, jim jordan, including arizona, paul gosar. so clearly there's a lot of hypocrisy at stake and i hope republicans -- i hope democrats
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do not fall for republican talking points on this. >> the bill also eliminates a lot of mandatory sentences and reduces penalties for things like carjacking and others, adding that context to this. >> but in carjacking, i have to make this point. carjacking, the penalties that are in there now, victor, are higher than they are in higher, georgia and ohio. >> but the shift is in the legislation. thank you so much. >> thanks, guys. in california, the national guard has been activateded to hp residents still trapped in s sa bernardino after feet of snow blanketed the area. we'll have a live report on those rescue efforts up next. or you could see, everything that could be. go. baker tilly. people remember ads with a catchy ng. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's a little number you'll never forget. ♪ customize and save. ♪
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people in the mountains of southern california are still buried under several feet of snow after a mammoth store. >> with many residents running out of food, medicine and gas, the national guard is being called in to help. we're in san bernardino california. what are you hearing? >> reporter: people are frustrated because they have been stuck inside of their homes for days now. they're getting to the point where they're telling me i am scared because it is going to take a lot longer for them to be able to come out of the mountain. authorities saying it could take up to a week to get to some of the most impacted areas. and i've talked to a lot of residents who have shared very similar concerns. they say they're worried about food for themselves, formula for
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the babies, food for their pets, they cannot get medicine, they're worried about any medical emergencies and that's just some of the concerns that they tell me about. they say they're so tired of cleaning up the snow and not seeing a lot of progress. so just a lot of concern from a lot of these residents. i talked to derek hayes, here is how he's describing his situation. >> there's nowhere to put the snow. there's no way to walk around. it's up to my neck in a lot of places. you take a step, you sink all the way down. you have to crawl your way out of the snow to even move around. >> reporter: now, authorities have told us that they have crews, they're members of the national guard, that are already up in the mountain. their priority is to clear some of the roads. they're conducting evacuations, they're flying in food for people who are running out of food. so there is some progress. but authorities today apologizing saying it is going to take time and asking people
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to be patient because this is going to be a long and difficult process for everyone involved. and what they're saying is that they will take a couple of days to get to some of the most impacted people. they say they're working on it and that they are going to do everything they can, but they cannot guarantee that everyone will get out over the next couple of hours. they're putting even more road blocks as we speak. there's a line of cars trying to get in and they are not going to be able to do so. so that is essentially what we're hearing from authorities, they were not prepared for this in the sense they were not expecting so much snow so quickly and now this is what they're having to deal with and a lot of people are just very frustrated. bianna, victor. >> those pictures are stunning, to see people trying to build these pathways through so much snow. camilla, thahank you. ukraine says there is inintense fighting in and aroun the eastern city of babakhmut a
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the new cnn film "glitch", the rise and fall of hq trivia, reveals the crazy story behind the revolutionary game show app that went viral -- how much did
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the most expensive work of art ever sell at auction for? >> i go with "c ." >> the highest number, which is usually a good strategy. but it is right in the middle. $450.3 million, by da vinci, selling in 2017 to a secret buyer who we since have come to know is probably the crown prince of saudi arabia, mbs. that's cash change for him. to you, bianna, this is one of the most savage questions. 99% of people got this one wrong
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when i first asked it. for about three decades, 10% of all u.s. electricity came from which source? >> "b." >> the hoover dam? >> yeah. >> people got this one wrong. it is the most outrageous answer, soviet warheads. >> i should have known. >> everything comes to megawatts. who would have thought. >> had no idea. >> all right. >> well, 99% of people -- >> only two years, so -- >> scott, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> and be sure to tune in, the all new cnn film "glitch: the rise and fall of hq trivia" premieres sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern and pacific here on cnn. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ get directv with a two y year price guarantee.
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we're kicking off this year's cnn heroes campaign with nurse theresa gray.
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the honoree jumped into action when the devastating earthquake hit turkey and syria. cnn's anderson cooper has her story. >> i need syringes. it is frantic leading up to a mission. this bag is ready to go. you can have the right equipment, the right medication. we have enough for hundreds of patients. we're going to be sleeping in a tent, eating mres. this is not going to be a good time. >> three days after the earthquake, theresa landed in turkey. she and her team soon headed to hatai province. >> i'm here, we're doing mobile clinics and all the people are living here in these tents now because the buildings are falling down or about to fall down. we go street to street to street and we stop at these tent cities, we're seeing earthquake injury, lacerations.
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we saw a child trapped in the rubble, whatever they need, they will get. we go back, get in our car, get up the next morning and do it again. >> and treating hundreds of people and one family adopted theresa's group as their own. >> these people have taken us in and they have allowed us to stay on their property and given us tea. we're so grateful for her. >> another reminder even in desperate times, humanity can shine through. >> i know. i'm so sorry. i'm so sorry. >> such important work. to nominate your own cnn hero, go to cnnheroes.com. "the lead with jake tapper" starts now