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top of the hour. thank you for joining us in this cnn newsroom. i'm erica hill. >> i'm jim chsciutto. the ntsb investigators are headed back to ohio. they have more concerns after a new crash there. >> and now, there is a police training facility where there was protesters who set a vehicle on fire and there was a clash there. and we will look at the look

next of former president trump and governor desantis as they head to ohio this week. and we go to jason carroll who is on the scene there in ohio, and i understand, jason, that the ntsb investigators are going to be headed to the scene today, and we understand that we have new information about the crash and what the train was carrying, and is there a risk to the citizens there? >> yes, the ntsb say that there is no risk to the residents here, but within a month's time, a second crash here, and you can see that one of the cars here is still on the side here, and the investigators will be coming out to sort out what happened this go around. this derailment happened around 5:00 on saturday. video is capturing moment at which the train started to derail.

a man caught it on the cell phone all as it starred to happen. in all, 28 of the 212 cars derailed. the state officials say that there was no release of the hazardous materials, but there were materials like propane and ethanol carried on the train, but those cars did not derail. state and local officials gave more details in terms of what exactly happened here. >> after the research, they did a reconof the site and found nothing had spilled on to the ground, and very minimal material on the actual cars themselves that actually dried quickly. there is no spillage on to the ground or the waterways at this time. >> the transportation secretary pete buttigieg was criticized for the slow response for the

last derailment, and he said, no hazardous material released. and again, this is the second derailment that the people in ohio have seen, and the people in east palestine still trying to get their lives back together in terms of that derailm, and the ntsb said it is something to be prevented, and we will see what they say this go around. >> thank you, jason, for being on the ground there for us. in a cnn exclusive, transportation secretary pete buttigieg says that he should have gone to site earlier last month. >> and we have isaac with us who got that exclusive interview, and what has been said about that response since? >> yes, that is right. and i spent some time with buttigieg, and he acknowledged that he had gotten the politicsf this wrong. he said to me that sometimes people need policy work, and

sometimes people need performance work, and sometimes at this leveler you need both. but he pointed out that this is really mostly politic, and the criticism that he is under, is not normal for a transportation secretary, and he said that he had looked at the work of other secretary, and none of them had gone to the site of a derailment, but he said that much of this has come bubbling up, and he said maybe it is because he is often a political version. and when i asked him about going to talk to president trump about the bottled water, and that, and he said from going to the regulations to epa and then total responsibility there, and showing up with bottled water are two different things. and he said that there is

oversight hearings, and he wants more regulation and laws to be passed through congress that so far, it has in the past bunch of years actually stripped some of it back. >> isaac dovere, thank you so much. and now, joining us is the chairman of the american rail administration, and thank you for coming on. >> glad to be here. >> and one thing to get through is the governor of norfolk southern has committed to paying millions of damages to the part of the state, and $6.5 million to those residents in and around east palestine, and has the union received any word that the settlement money is being concerned to go to the union workers who have responded the accident? >> no, i have not gotten any word from norfolk southern that

it is even in the plan. >> okay. you have said that members of the teams who have gone to take part of the cleanup have exhibited symptoms the, mi grarngs and difficulty breathing, and et cetera, and when we reached out to norfolk southern, they said that there have not been any reported symptoms to them. have you reported them to them? >> yes, we have had internal meetings, and we have reported the different types of breathing, and nausea and headaches and so on. they are well aware of that. many of the members, that they my opinion is that they have not spoken up for fear of retaliation, and that is my thought. >> it is a consistent concern here. there is also the union worker were given the proper ppe, and

what did they get? were there workers there that were equipped with different union equipment? >> i was told that some workers were offered n-95 masks, and that is all that was reportedly given to them. some of the contractors had the proper ppes as far as the canister type face masks and the t tyvek suits. >> and now n an open letter to governor devine you talk about a costcutting model that you talk about the railroad cost cutting model is really involved in running longer, and heavier

behemoth trains that the track structures are not necessarily designed to handle. so do you believe that the cost-cutting, and the changes have contributed to the accident? oh, we have lost j.b. long, oh, we have got him back. my question is whether the pcr cost cutting longer trains and job cuts contributed to the accident in east palestine? >> yeah, the psr and the precision scheduled railroading, i am not sure if that is anything to do with what happened in east palestine. i think that the legislation needs to be passed to make the railroads a more safe place for the employees and the communities where the trains operate through. but as far as anything dealing with the psr, i am not aware. >> can you tell us about the

response and backwards-looking, but for wward looking, is there anything that the union needs to have for this to be prevented from happening again? >> absolutely. the unions have gone to the carriers at numerous times throughout the year, and voiced concerns about the psr which has reduced the workforce drastically. so when you don't have as many inspection going on as you previously had, there is always room for failure. so we need to sit down at the table, both the union, and the carriers and try to get some legislation passed in order to make the railroads a safer place. >> i do want to thank you, j.b. long, for joining us this morning, and let's keep up the conversation, because there are a number of questions coming forward. the response from norfolk southern said that they were on

cnn immediately after the derailment and they have coordinated with the coordinators on site, and they have answered, and the required ppe was utilized in addition to the air monitoring established within the hour. that is a story that we will continue to cover. thank you so much, j.b. long. >> thank you. a violent morning in atlanta as protesters attacked a training facility for law enforcement. as you can see, this is police surveillance video here. this is some of what the officers say was playing out. and the activists threw molotov fireworks, and train there caught fire for months, and why is this happening? >> well, it is activists that is

happen across the country, and some right here in atlanta of which they call the further militarization of the police, and the activists which is the $987-acre facility would implement the facility yesterday by firing molotov cocktails and fireworks and other objects at the police. >> actions such as this is not going to be tolerated. when you are attacking police officers and this is a violent attack, and not a public safety training, but it is about anarchy, and the attempt to destabilize. >> i got off of the phone with kamal franklin who is a national activist who has been involved in the beginning with organizing against this proposed facility,

i asked him if he agreed with the police, and he said, no. calling those arrested as out so outside are calling the weekend full of festivities, and we should expect more protests the, and in this community, it is a facility that is built for mostly black and brown citizens. and they have not been asked for their involvement. and march 9th is billed as a large day of activist where is the people are coming in from outside of the atlanta areas to bill their case, and that should be this weekend. >> we will keep in touch as this continues toward thursday.

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secretary lloyd austin is in the middle east as the tensions are on the rise. >> this week he met with the jordan king to restore calm in the middle east. we go to natasha bertrand about this trip, and what specifically about the conversations. >> erica, secretary austin was in jordan this morning on a trip to the middle east to take him to israel as well as egypt. he said that the broad message of the overall trip is the threat to the region by iran. he is discussing the violence that has broken out in west bank with jordan, and he is going to discuss it was ith israel, and is going to want to discuss it with the new relationship with

russia and eiran that is so disturbing to many. >> and so, we will ask them to help with some of the backing they have received. if you are in this country, you would be very concerned about it, and they are. so this relationship is very troubling, and one that we need to keep an eye on, and discourage it from going forward. >> so he wants to watch this partn partnership, and discontinue it from going larger. >> we understand that there is a pair of ukrainian pilots here in the u.s. for a familiarization event, and regarding the f-16 jets, and is that under the consideration with the possibility of sending f-16 jets to ukraine?

>> well, this is interesting, because it was said that it is a familiarization event of the ukrainian pilots to get them aware with the systems, and better of course, their better their aircraft in ukraine, but the official who testify congress next week, and very expensive and very important to get to them. >> thank you, natasha bertrand. happening now, the ukrainian forces are on the brink of capturing city of balkmut. >> josh rogen has a piece of looking at the cluster munitions, and the request of the ukrainian fishls to get

them. josh, it is always good to see you this morning. we have talked about the cluster munitions before, and both the russians, and ukrainians have been using them, but russia used them more on civilian targets, but this request is not new. we have, cnn has reporting from the new administration that there is a number of them out, there and the concern is stemming from the convention of cluster munition, and more than 100 countries have signed it, and the u.s. has not though there are pledges in the country to do so. is this real le an option at this point? >> right. great point, erica, because as you saw in bakhmut, russia is on the march and this could be an intensive spring where the russians are going to be sending

hundreds of thousands of bodies into the area to rape and kill ukrainians. and the people are with the argument a terrible yt and therefore we have no choice. so they are so desperate, and so outgunned and turning to the weapons at a self-preservation, because they believe it is an existential fight for their lives and country, and for the united states and germany, it is not enough. i don't think that the biden administration is going to grant the weapons. i think that turkey has been doing it, but not admitting to it. yes, this is a war, and the terrible option of these indiskrim nead and they storm

more ukrainian houses. >> and this has been going on for months, and why would the cases not be used, because in a lot of cases, they are left alone, and for years, someone might step on one, and why would the u.s. consider giving this category of weapon when they are giving so many other capable systems? >> well, it is a good point, jim. first of all, it is because the ukrainians have a specific military use and what they are the trying to do is to make choke points and certain advance points ineligible for them, so they are to be limited and that

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we begin with breaking news this morning. the senate is looking to overturn the 100-year-old code. >> and law fishes are saying that they should make their own laws for interference, but the president said that he would not veto the gop-led legislation. and we are joined by manu raja,

and saying that the president is soft on crime, and this is a label that the democrats do not want to see attached with them, and not attached with president biden, and walk us through what is happening here. >> there is a number of democrats, and the twha the mesh and that they are characterized as soft on crime. last time this came up for a vote, it would have passed with 173 votes in the house. and in d.c. they said that they should pass for their own laws. but they did not say if the president would specifically sign et or not dop at this and

this is going to give them time to defect the have and so that depens upon the issue. >> depending what the senate does, president will have to derond one way or another. i have not talked to the whitehouse yet depending upon the views, one way or another. >> well, he said that. >> about that issue. >> reporter: but the president did say that he plans to let it go into effect, and the white house confirmed that is the president of the president, and he is going to tine it into law to rescind it into law. and some were chemical that i interviewed that they cannot trust the white house on a thorny issue like this, and with the president heading into a potential 2024 bid, and expected to pass the senate, and as soon as wednesday, 70 votes, and now

a number of tiding wens in this. and that tells me that patty mur >> manu raw, thank you for reporting. the republican party of the house is starting to take shape, and we got a glimpse of what could define the gop nomination. former president donald trump speaking to a group of supporters over the weekend, and though ron desantis has not formally announced a plan for a run. a sold out audience though where he sended at the presidential library. >> in 2016, i said that i am your voice, and today, i add that i am your warrior and justice, and for those of you who i have wronged and i have betrayed, i am your retribution.

i am the retribution. >> these liberal states have gotten it wrong, and why? i think that it is going back to the woke mind virus that has infected the left. former illinois r representtive is joining us now. and you say that this is where the activists are, and is that base large enough to ensure us that donald trump is going to be in fact the nominee in 2024? >> erica, absolutely great to be you, either to nominate trust or someone like donald trump. look, what we saw at cpac this weekend is not some republican party fringe thing.

this is what the party is now. they represent the voting base of the republican party, and the only lane in this republican party, if you want to be the nominee for the republican party is the trumpian party, and that is no longer telling the truth, and given up on the democracy and one for authoritarian, and desantis is trying to occupy that lane as well, but that is the only lane. >> it is interesting when you are talking about desantis and trying to find the lane, and there are plenty of people who say i want to go in the desantis lane where they want to b and we have played a little bit from where he was over the weekend, and using the favorite word woke. when we are looking at this, there was a piece in the rolling stone, and thinking about that word, and just how the republicans have gone all-in on this term, and how young conservatives are balking at it,

and calling it a catch-all, and saying that older folks use it if they don't know what they are referring to, and expressing concern that it could turn off the younger voters. >> it is a catchall. we hear it all of the time, and it does not seem that people know how it is used or when it is used, because it is thrown to the wall every time, and is there a chance that it back backfires? >> erica, you are right, because most americans are empathetic and al you have to say in a primary is to say that word, because the base of the republican vote ser r is middle and whiter folk. and so what trump is going to have to do is to make the middle aged and white folk feel like victims the and that the country

is changing, and brown and black people are coming into america, and it is not going to be safe. that is what, again, this republican party is now. /don't think that desantis has a lane, and maybe just trump supporters and that he has a better chance to win. >> looking at what we stand, and looking at the messaging, and the culture war messaging coming from the republicans, do democrats have a handle on the rebuttal there? >> i will tell you that i want to scream, erica. look, the republicans, and you know, erica, because i used to do, this and the republicans and the right wing media people, their operation is to scare their voters, and scare their listeners, and they engage in the cultural world b.s. all the

time and then they don't engage. that is a by, big mistaking because i do believe that most americans when it is coming to the issues of gender, race, most americans are tolerant and em pa thet thick. they would be with the democrats on the culture war issues if the democrats fought. i am not a democrat, erica, but that is my biggest criticism is to fight the republicans on these issue, and we are with you. >> joe walsh, thank you, for coming on this morning. as the afghans face a brutal anand deadly winteter, they sayt they need humanitarian aid this year just to survive. some of f the heartbreaking stories coming up. clearly, you're a safe drir.

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>> millions of people in afghanistan are suffering from extreme poverty and hunger are now also in a brutal winter. >> the situation is worse and seems it cannot be, but it is now worse with the taliban response and the international response. we have this response. >> reporter: fresh snow blankets the central afghanistan creating the illusion of a winter

wonderland, but for those who live here, there is no wonder, and let alone glimmer of hope. simply staying alive is a daily struggle. for this family, their young son lost that battle. now they huddle around his hillside grave offering prayers to 6-year-old waheed who days ago froze to death. i miss my brother, and that is why i came to the graveyard, she says. abdul zaheer moved here to find work, but with the gripping taliban control in afghanistan, he was not able to make ends meet. i had nothing to burn to keep the house warm, he explains, and i checked on the children at night and their bodies were numb. i realized that my son had died of frostbite. this is a photo of him last year, he says.

and this is his dead body. an unprecedented brutal winter has claimed countless lives, and so, too, has extreme poverty. this is exacerbated by the taliban's dystopian gender policies and response of the international community, and almost a year ago, the taliban banned the female secondary students from attending school which has morphed into a nationwide ban of all female education, but it was the taliban's decision in december to ban women from working for governmental organizations to force aid groups to halt operations. >> there is 28 million afghans in desperate conditions. 28 million. we are not reaching a fraction of them. >> reporter: the norwegian council says they normally help 700,000 afghans each year, but

the operation has been drastically pared back. they have traveled to kabul to plead for them to return to work. >> it has never been this bad as it is now. >> reporter: 35-year-old isappoo mourns for thher father who kep their children alive, and now she doesn't know what to do. three of the children are girls, including 12-year-old girl who knows what happens to poor afghan girls who reach puberty. i am worried that if i don't have food, my brothers will sell me under pressure.

i don't want to get married. i'm a kid. i don't want to get married. u.s. charity says it is able to give food to the family, but founder stephanie sinclair says that the avalanche of need is overwhelming. >> to me it is unconscionable that the international community is not paying attention to afghan women and girls, and it is inexcusable to not do everything in our power to change the course of what is happening there. we have to do better. >> reporter: and 2/3 of the population will require aid, the children will only hope that the world is listening. the u.n. repertoire issued his report and taking aim at the women and girls of society, and this is a huge issue for the international community, and one of the main reasons for

international sanctions of the international government and afghan reserves, and says discriminatory desires of the fundamental human rights may result to gender persecution, a crime against humanity, and the taliban has yet to respond to the report. back to you. >> surprising that they have yet to respond. >> so powerful the number of people suffering. and the taliban said they would not go so far as bringing back the medieval policies, and of course, they have, and those are the effects. >> and those are the reasons that the people did not believe those words. and d now, people in california digging out of the intense snowfall, and they can't get fofood or medicine and othe supplies. we will get you a live update. , ep wrinkles in 4.

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and now to take a moment this morning with a trail blazing human disabilities act over the weekend. she was left unable to walk in the 1960s and then she attended a disability camp which is the focus of a documentary called "kri "crip camp." >> and judy heumann led to the disability rights activist in the clinton administration and

she has passed away. and now, nearly 100 inches of snow in crestline and it has caused roofs to collapse, and trees snapping, and now residents are in crestline and so, are there still folks who are isolated and can't get what they need? >> yes, for days, and more than ten days, and they are so frustrated, because they are dealing with the walls of snow, and this is what the authorities are dealing with trying to clear the roads. this is what they are doing. so they are clearing the main roads, and what we have been told is that 80% of the county roads have been clear. i also want to show you a view from above where we are right

now. that is just going to show you how the streets are clear, and the problem is that a lot of the side streets, the smaller roads, those have not been plowed, and a lot people in this area live on these side streets, and so they are not able to come to this area. we are actually at the super market, the only supermarket in town where the roof collapsed. so this is an area where they are going to have donations, but again, a lot of people who live further up the mountain cannot get to the supermarket to come get food, because they are not able to walk here. the ones that can are doing everything they can to walk here. i talked to some ladies who came yesterday, and they said that the food was gone by noon, so they are trying again today, because they desperately need butter and milk, and this is what is frustrating for a lot of the people who have been stuck here for so long. authorities say that they are working 24/7, and that they are doing everything they can, and

they have apologized for how long this is taking. and there is the need for so many things here, and this is what the residents are asking for. jim, and erica? >> they need the help and fast. camila b bernal. thank you very m much. thank you alall for joinings today. i'm erica hill. >> i'm jim sciututto, and d "th hour with kate bolduan" begins after a short break. if youave this... consider adding this. an aarp medica supplement insurance plan from unitedhealthcare. medicare supplement plans help by paying some of what medicare doesn't... and let you see any doctor. any specialist. anywhere in the u.s. who accepts medicare patients. so if you have this... consider adding this. call unitedhealthcare today

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