and finally tonight, keep your space. actor bruce willis' wife now asking paparazzi to keep their distance when they see the actor suffering from a form of dementia. >> this one is going out to the photographers and the video people that are trying to get those exclusives of my husband out and about. just keep your space. i know this is your job. but maybe just keep your space. >> very graciously gone. emma heming willis' request after photographers were following him after a coffee run. it was a few weeks ago they announced he was diagnosed with dementia saying his condition has worsened from a year ago when he was diagnosed with aphasia which is a condition which can affect a person's ability to speak. thanks so much for joining us.

"ac 360" begins right now. good evening, we begin with the contest for who will lead the republican party as its presidential candidate in 2024 as well as a touch of irony. both are embodied by the op-ed that larry hogan wrote for this sunday's "the new york times." in it he writes, to once again be a successful governing party we must move on from mr. trump. he also takes aim without naming him at florida governor ron desantis and what he refers to, quote, as angry, divisive politics. in hogan's view they need someone other than those two, a common sense conservative who can broaden the party's base, someone his argument suggests like him. the irony is he's writing those words in an op-ed explaining why he is not running for president which with all due respect to nikki haley. each spoke over the weekend and

though ron desantis was more measured in tone than the former president at the conservative political action committee convention, both portrayed themselves as leaders in a culture war. >> we will demolish volk tyranny. >> they should not be teaching a second grader they can choose their gender. there's a new sheriff in town now. >> we ban transgender insanity from our military. >> he goes back to this woke mind viruses that's infected the left and all these other institutions. >> the george soros money machine. >> people like george soros. >> our enemies are lunatics and maniacs. >> again, the former president was far less restrained than governor desantis who appeared trying to tstake out a position without all the trumpy mess. >> i can tell you in four years

you didn't see our administration leaking like a sieve. you didn't see a lot of drama or palace intrigue. what you saw was surgical precision execution, day after day after day and because we did that, we beat the left day after day after day. [ applause ] >> as for the former president he recapped a number of familiar tropes about russia and the 200 election. also new themes, as well, dark themes. >> this is the final battle. they know it. i know it. you know it and if they win, we no longer have a country. in 2016 i declared i am your voice. today i add, i am your warrior, i am your justice and for those who have been wronged and betrayed, i am your retribution. i am your retribution. >> trying that one out. i am your retribution. abraham lincoln with the country on the brink of civil war a appealed for all americans to be

touched by the better angels of our nature. toward the end of the war he called on them to bind up the nation's wounds. he was the first republican president seeking to be the next republican president. donald trump promises to be an agent of vengeance. in his speech invoked the post civil war act, limping in a moment of self-pity. >> i didn't know that they want to lynch you for doing nothing wrong. i didn't know they want to lynch you for doing a great job. i didn't know they want to put you away because your poll numbers are better than anybody they've seen in years. >> for the record the former president was not lynched, he lost. he was voted out of office and he's not being lynched either. he's the subject of numerous official legally sanctioned investigations. the irony here is that he did have a vice president who was being hunted by a mob the former president encouraged and for hours did not to stop him and did want to hang mike pence and mark meadows told the january 6th committee when president trump learned of the rioters

chanting hang mike pence he said something to the effect of maybe mr. pence should be hung. as for those rioters, the president collaborated with a group of inmates on this. ♪ watched so gallantly streaming ♪ >> and to the republic for which it stands. ♪ and the rocket's red glare the bombs bursting in air ♪ >> that's the leading voice in the republican party along with ron desantis and this republican like governor hogan is not though he too sees what he recognizes to be a problem for the gop. >> we need to have alternatives again to donald trump. we don't need to be led by arrogance and revenge in the future and when he talks about

vengeance he's talking about his personal vendettas and that's not healthy for america. it's certainly not healthy for our party. >> former arkansas governor asa hutchinson who hasn't decided to run. does the party bear any resemblance to the party as it actually is? joining us now is kaitlan collins, also van jones and scott jennings, former special assistant to president george w. bush. clearly, ron desantis and the former president, i guess ron desantis more is dancing around trump not wanting to directly engage. how long can that go on for? >> not much longer. as long as he's in this audition to be president until he formally announces which we're not expecting until at least may or something that you'll see more of this. him testing his message out on the road and it was a pretty, you know, large audience. the reagan library, 1,300 people

sold out doing these stops as part of his book tour but clearly testing out his message. this weekend is probably the sharpest display we've seen of that, of the contrast between the two of them. you know, desantis' comment that really stood out where he talked about in his administration in florida they never had leaks. they never had palace intrigue, that they executed their agenda with surgical precision. making those comments, basically saying this is not what happened when trump was in office trying to appeal to the trump voters while making sure he distinguishes himself from trump. >> it was interesting, van, that desantis when he was saying the quote that kaitlin was talking "about damn time," you know, being laser focused, it was laser focused what he then ended it with was on defeating the left every single day, every minute of the day or words to that effect, it wasn't about governing, it was about being on the attack which is something he's also said in some interviews about you have to be

on the attack all the time or else ythey will win. is he going to run, do you think, on just being a really great governor? it doesn't seem like that's -- it seems like it's going to be this woke thing. >> well, yeah, i mean it's really sad to see these two front-runners kind of chasing each other off the cliff of crazy. you're proud that you can't find common ground with half the people in your state or just less than half the people in your state who are liberal and progressive. you're proud you're beating up on transgender kids and showing them no sympathy, no empathy in at least understanding what they're going through. you may disagree with some of the medical procedures, but you got to show some empathy for those families. and you think this is going to be rewarded and the only distinction you want to draw with president trump is that

you're just kind of nicer and more efficient in persecuting people. you're a nicer more efficient persecutor of people not somebody who will help folks. what's amazing is his book, you know, is a testament to trump. the book he put out, he's praising trump more than trump praises himself. so this is a very bizarre spectacle and if i were a republican i'd be heartbroken these are the two main options. >> scott, what did you make of the appearances of both and messages of both? >> yeah, i think the core difference you're going to see unfold over the next few months is trump on this vengeance tour, he wants to go out and get the people who thinks persecuted him and i think where desantis is laser focused is on trying to go out and get the people that republicans think have them surrounded. this is the real difference. who can complain about the fights and who can complain about all the things in the world that conservatives don't like and who can actually finish it. i think one of the things desantis is getting at with the drama and the leaks and, you know, the chaos that surrounded the trump administration is, it

prevented them from having focus enough to win the fights and in florida, you know, whether he's taking on disney or stuff they don't like in the schools or in the legislature, desantis stays focused and never gets distracted by the personal drama that seems to always surround and follow donald trump and his people. i think you're going to see ron desantis rung on this thing right here. we know what you're mad about. we know what you're concerned about. ask yourself a question, who can finish it and who can complain about it only and i think he's got an opening against trump there. >> it seems you have these other governors, you know, talking about sort of wanting to focus on governance and not culture issues and just good governance. that's not a message that's resonating. >> i think they're worried that desantis' message will resonate now but not in the general. that will be a big struggle for whoever is the republican nominee because how do you get through a republican primary and how do you still have a

successful message in the general? that's what i've heard from people. we talk to these people all day long who will concede that, yes, desantis is a real threat to trump. trump knows that. he talks about desantis so much privately more than any other running against him or might. there is a concern when you get to the general. is desantis' message he's using going to be effective in the states that biden lost -- that trump lost to biden? that's not a known. >> scott, do you think we know what ron desantis is like as a national candidate? >> well, i mean, he still has some areas he hasn't had to explore as a governor such as a lot of foreign policy stuff. but really to get through the republican primary, it's about are you concerned and upset about the same stuff that the average republican voter is? obviously he's checking that box and do you show an aptitude for finishing these fights and do people believe you can be beat joe biden? those are the boxes you have to check and that's where trump is falling short. yes, he does reflect the attitude of the party and the

anger about certain things, but there's real concern he can't beat joe biden because we know he already lost to him and there is concern about during his four years he complained about a lot of things and didn't finish it. that's why i think desantis has more upside. on this point about the general election, i think whether we nominate trump, desantis or pick anybody else who is in or considering this race, democrats are going to say the same thing, listen to van tonight. he's already describing ron desantis as worse than donald trump. that's going to be the case for any nominee. look at what he did in florida. he won by 20 points. he turned miami red. this is a guy who has clearly got appeal beyond the republican base, democrats don't want to -- and other people seem to be worried about this idea that he can't appeal. look at what he did in florida. he appealed to everybody. >> van? >> maybe so. i think he's got a challenge to get the nomination, though. people like yourself love to imagine that trump getting knocked out by this guy but the polling data doesn't show it anywhere.

i think you got this lumbering lounge act of donald trump doing his greatest hits over and over again and somehow that's still got massive appeal and also would say, you know, ron desantis didn't really have an opponent in florida. i wouldn't -- i mean, no offense, but that wasn't exactly the best democratic party has to offer. we'll see how well he does if he gets out of florida. first he has to get past donald trump and i'm not sure he can do it. >> thanks so much. coming up next in what appears to be a terrifying case the latest on four americans kidnapped in mexico. later new reporting on a remarkable conference call at fox news after the 2020 electitn and the company's top p news executive regretetting the mome her network got it right and told the truth. ♪ >> announcer: "anderson coop 36 brought to you by car

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search is on for four missing americans who were assaulted and kidnapped by drug cartel gunmen in mexico caught on camera. investigators believe the americans were taken in the case of mistaken identity. josh campbell joins us now. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: so this began very violently. the fbi says this occurred friday as these four americans

were traveling from texas into mexico and as we watch that video, this is graphic. what you're seeing are people being held at gunpoint. a source familiar with the investigation tells me authorities believe this video was related to that incident, perhaps in the aftermath. you see a woman being shoved into the back of that truck. you also see other people who aren't moving being loaded into that vehicle. so, again, this group of americans coming across the border, this group opens fire on them. now a source tells me that as you mentioned this appears to be a case of mistaken identity, specifically that investigators believe that it was a cartel that opened fire on this group of americans mistaking them for haitian drug smugglers. now, as far as why the americans were there, a source tells me that these americans were there trying to get a medical procedure. that's according to receipts found in the vehicle as authorities were processing that crime scene, of course, this is so, so stunning to think this group of americans were targeted at random here, you know, by mistake because we know that so many americans and canadians go

into mexico for lower cost prescription drugs, for lower priced medical procedures so this extremely, extremely serious as far as their whereabouts the fbi continues to work with mexican officials to see what their current condition is. >> i also want to bring in to our law enforcement intelligence analyst and former nypd deputy commissioner of intelligence and terrorism john miller. john, how does -- what happens now? how does the fbi work with mexican authorities on this? >> it's complicated. and, you know, josh campbell is a former fbi agent who used to work overseas kidnappings in players like the philippines knows the limits, which is the fbi has no legal authority on the ground. they can't run the case. but what they can do is leverage the relationships that they have on the ground with the mexican federal police and state police, with other agencies and there are other agencies on the ground

at the embassy who work through the ambassador. you've got cia, you've got nsa, dea, you've got a lot of resources that can be brought to bear and information that can be fed to mexican authorities that can help them get to who's behind this, what's behind this, where they are? >> is it -- is there a lot of tension with haitian smugglers, the haitian 134ugling networks? >> so you've got a really dynamic picture on that border. so picture brownsville, texas, picture the rio grande and then you have matamoros right on the other side of that border. this is a town where you've got immigrants being run by smugglers coming up from south america, from central america and from mexico where the gulf cartel along with its drug business has an entire network that brings those people across the border. now you also have immigrants from haiti who are being smuggled in through central

america and up into mexico and haitian networks that are trying to bring them across as well. the gulf cartel does not like outsiders, does not like competition, does not like anybody who is not kicking back and the working theory and it's just a theory at this point is that they believe that they had run into members of a haitian smuggling network basically did a vehicle interdiction, you know, blocked them off, crashed into them, dragged them out. it appears people were wounded so it's a dynamic situation. >> josh, as john mentioned you worked a number of global kidnapping cases. what are some of the difficulties you faced? >> reporter: well, look, i'll be honks, anderson. the outlook here is very grim. i can tell yous as an fbi agent, you ask yourself when you're trying to get a captive free is are the captors themselves prone to violence or are they rational? are they reasonable? we know this incident started with gunfire, in fact, a source tells me this didn't appear to be a kidnapping operation at all but this group just unloaded on

this other vehicle before they eventually took these victims away, so, again, that's concerning that this already started very violently then the next question is what contact or investigative authorities able to make with those holding the americans and what might demands be? they think these members might have gone into panic mode once they realized this was an actual mistake so you hope that these captors understand that, look, only bad things are going to happen if they harm these americans any further, whether they can reap any benefit such as financial, you know, benefits out of the families, that's something we've seen in certain cases but cartels are business so maybe they'll go that route. it is a dicey and dangerous situation, both because you have people taken captive not in the kidnapping business to begin with and as authorities move in you only hope authorities are able to make contact and get them released safely but we know a lot of work is going on behind the scene. >> john, are the cartels, are

they really in the business of kidnap and ransom? >> yes, yes, and yes. although, you know, they stop tourist buses and they'll stop cars and they'll do kidnappings, but what you have here is this cosmetic surgery medical tourism. >> that's right. they were going for a cosmetic procedure. >> the woman who is part of the group with her three male friends, you know, they were traveling down to support her as she went for cosmetic surgery because you can get it there for half price. but you have to look at the state department lists this as a no go zone, a do not travel level 4 for americans, so the idea of getting a $10,000 operation in the united states for $5,000 in mexico when you see that environment, what happened today certainly not worth it. and, you know, now they've crossed with a cartel, a kidnapping and shooting. >> thanks. coming up harvard law school professor laurence tribe on a

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new reporting tonight on fox news which is being sued for $1.6 billion by dominion voting systems in connection with the 2020 election. it's from "the new york times" which got access to a post-election zoom meeting with top network executives and anchors. on it chief executive suzanne scott expresses regret for reporting the truth. quoting her from "the times," listen, she said, it's one of the sad reality, if we hadn't called arizona those three or four days following election day our ratings would have been bigger. the mystery would have still been hanging out there. that is a news executive, the top news executive second-guessing herself for reporting the news which angered president trump and some fox viewers which then seemed to scare many at fox news. perspective from harvard law school's laurence tribe author of "to end a presidency." professor tribe, were you

surprised by in that top executives were regretting the arizona call which was -- it was an early call but they got it right. >> it's remarkable. what i'm surprised about is not that that's what they said because we've learned increasingly that their whole business model is to lie if it helps their ratings. what i'm surprised about is that we learned directly what they said that we have the zoom call, we have the receipts. you know, just four days from now it's going to be the 59th anniversary of "the new york times" versus sullivan, the great case that establishes that you can't simply sue because there's been a mistake in the news. you have to show deliberate or reckless falsehood if you are a public official or a public figure or a big corporation like dominion. but they got the goods. they have shown and in this evidence it's even clearer that

fox news deliberately lied and when someone told the truth, they were basically reprimanded by the top brass. that's remarkable. it's remarkable that the plaintiffs have managed to get that evidence. >> i spoke to leelah convenient last week who said this is the strongest defamation case he's seen in the last 40 years. is that accurate? do you agree with that. >> i've been doing it for 50 years and it's the strongest case i've seen in the 50 years that i've been teaching about freedom of speech and defamation law. it is a remarkably strong case, and it's going to make a difference because it's going to send the signal that sometimes you just can't get away with lying even if swells your bottom line temporarily. >> what fox has been saying, though, they've been painting it as something that will hurt the first amendment and first

amendment protections? >> on the contrary, it strengthens the first amendment because people like justice thomas and some other members of the court who have said that we really have to make it easier to sue and we have to cut back on the protections of "the new york times" versus sullivan because otherwise people can tell lies and get away with it. well, this proves that they are wrong. they were basically alarmists for no good reason, so i think this is a great milestone for the first amendment, for freedom of the press and for the truth. it's a win all around except perhaps for fox news. it's a terrible blow for fox news and the people who make their money by lying. >> at some point does -- do you think rupert murdoch will try to settle before going to trial? i mean it's hard obviously to predict and who knows if dominion wants to go to trial or

not? >> well, he may try but i think dominion is going to be pretty tough to settle with because they are being much more public spirited about it than a lot of other plaintiffs. they're basically trying to make a public point and it's a point that they're not going to give away very easily. i don't think they want just more dollars. they want to be vindicated. they want to have the truth told and they want a lesson to be sent to those who would try to benefit from lying like donald trump and like a lot of his followers and, of course, a lot of the sectors of the media that have made their money off of the followers of people like donald trump. >> the former president is still spreading these lies in his current campaign. >> right. >> does fox news then -- how do they handle covering him in the race given -- i mean, do they have him on to do interviews

with because he will continue to spread lies about the election. >> well, i think they're in a dilemma. i mean, they clearly can't afford not to cover him in some way. on the other hand if they do they better put a big warning right in the crawl saying, nearly every word you hear is probably going to be false or at least they have to refute what they cover him as saying, so, you know, it's going to be -- >> what happens if they don't refute it? >> they lose. pardon? >> what happens if they don't refute it, that opens them up to further litigation? >> could well. i mean, if they continue to propagate lies just because they think they're going to get more viewers as a result, they're going to be opened up to more litigation from the people that they harm. so it really is -- it's a lose/lose situation for them unless they scrap their business model and try the good old-fashioned way of actually

broadcasting the news. that may not be popular these days, but maybe that's the way people should start making their money. >> just lastly over the weekend the former president said he wouldn't drop out of the 2024 race if he were indicted in any of the federal and state investigations he faces. that may just be bravado, but just what are the legal implications of that? >> well, it has no particular legal implications. he's almost certainly going to be indicted. it's a question of whether georgia will move first or alvin bragg in manhattan or jack smith for the federal government, and he's going to try to wear it as a badge of courage the way he brags about being the disgraced twice impeached president. >> he'll fund raise off it. >> even though he doesn't mind, he claims, being indicted, i think he doesn't look forward to an orange jumpsuit and so someday he's going to have to meet his maker and sort of be held accountable.

but he's going to brag about being indicted, no question about it. >> and fund raise off it. >> it's not going to deter the prosecutors. >> laurence tribe, appreciate it, thank you. >> thank you, anderson. a new video allegedly showing the execution of a ukrainian soldier, power by russian soldiers over what would be a war crime. plus, they're called the white angegels and trying to ge civilians out of the besieged town of bakhmut in eastern ukraine. alex marquardt is in the eastern part of ukraine with those stories next. experience the capability the complete line of suvs expat the invitation toty lexus sales event. this is how tosin lost 33 lbs on noom weight. i'm tosin. noom gave her a psychological approach to weight loss. noom has taught me how you think about food has such a huge impact on your relationship with it. (chuckle) lose weight and make it last with noom weight.

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tonight new video that shows the apparent execution of a ukrainian prisoner of war seemingly by russian soldiers. the man who was executed is defiant till the end, some of his lad words are the common greeting, the words glory to ukraine and president zelenskyy says we will find the murders joined by alex marquardt in the eastern part of ukraine right now this evening. what do we know go the video that you're about to show us? >> reporter: well, anderson, we are trying to find out more about who this person is,

clearly outrage spreading all across ukraine tonight. it's not clear who this soldier is who apparently was killed by russian forces. we don't know yet which russian forces these may have been or what the location of this video may have been, but top ukrainian officials saying this is clearly more evidence of russia committing war crimes. we will show you this video. we have edited slightly. some may find it disturbing. let's take a look. >> reporter: so last words -- [ speaking non-english ] glory to ukraine. we are seeing all kinds of sadness and anger all across ukrainian social media. i looked at the facebook page of a ukrainian colleague that's all that was being posted.

president zelenskyy did weigh in, as you said. he said they would find the murders and said to respond to this man's words in unity, glory to hero, glory to ukraine. those are the two main patriotic slogans in ukraine, anderson. >> yeah, when people greet each other, you say glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes. there's been a lot of discussion in bakhmut, the site of some of the fiercest fighting, certainly going on right now. you were able to get close to the fortunate lines. what's it like there? >> reporter: it's incredibly ferocious fighting. you're absolutely right. we have been very close. there is nonstop artillery fire outgoing and from the ukrainians in and around the city of bakhmut. the russians responding. it is street-to-street. it is house-to-house. they are using all kinds of weapons, anderson, we spoke with the deputy mayor of bakhmut who said they are trying to do everything they can to try to get the remaining 4,500 residents out of that city.

racing into the war zone, a white knuckle drive towards the middle of bakhmut. [ speaking non-english ] this is the last successful emergency evacuation mission by the bakhmut police. we need to go faster, an officer says, the russians can clearly see us. this team called the white angels grab civilians who have been trapped throwing belongings in the back, there's a cat, someone else with a guitar. the fighting raging nearby. the residents told to hurry up and get in and sit anywhere they can. as they hold on tight, the rescue mission speeds away from the smoldering city. ahead, there's smoke from a russian strike. getting dropped off safely, l

leonid tells the officer everything is blown up even inside his apartment. they survived months of intense assaults. russia made gains trying to encircle bakhmut and surrounding it on three sides as ukraine desperately tries to fend them off. today, we met bakhmut's deputy mayor in a city nearby at a makeshift aid center for bakhmut evacuees. he tells us it's very hard to persuade the more than 4,000 civilians left there to leave. they say they have nowhere to go and have no money. it's very hard to survive there, he says. it's not life, it's survival. drinking water is a big problem. walking to the well is dangerous, he says. shells landing on your head all the time. all he now feels, he tells us, is fear and sadness. everyone here knows how hard it will be for ukraine to hold on to bakhmut. this woman's elderly mother with disabilities didn't want to

leave but she managed to convince her. "i don't know if my house is still standing," she tells us. "it's very painful still thinking about it." her eyes well up "i want them all to survive," she says. "that's my only wish." anderson, russia is certainly getting closer to taking bakhmut. we saw a video posted by wagner forces leading the russian charge trying to encircle the city and made some progress to the north and south. we saw today they pushed into the east. they posted this video replacing the ukrainian flag and a monument with their own flag. ukraine certainly not throwing in the towel. they have not announced any kind of withdrawal. president zelenskyy's office saying the recommendation to him is to maintain their defenses to reinforce their defenses, but we are already starting to hear from top ukrainian officials and american officials downplaying

the potential significance of a russian victory seeming to lay the groundwork for what may be coming soon. >> alex, appreciate it. update on a story that broke on this broadcast, a network of secret torture sites that iran used to try to stop the protests. graphic accounts of violence from eyewitnesses who say they were tortured at these sites. >> called me a -- >> rubbed himself against me. >> hugh milltation. >> no choice but to confess. >> and the senate foreign relations committee cited that report and said, the discovery of these secret jails is the latest example of the cruelty of the iranian regime. the international community needs to hold tehran accountable for torturing its own citizens. this should be investigated by the united nations nations fact-finding mission on iran. we have more now on this development. what do we know about the investigation being proposed by the senate foreign relations committee?

>> well, the senate foreign relations committee leans on u.s. foreign policy and the u.n. human rights commission is internationally mandate and the u.s. is part of it so this does work as somewhat of a referral. it's broadening out the u.n. human rights commission investigation to include our findings which frankly, anderson, given the fear of those we spoke to were conservative, we managed to find some three dozen, at least three dozen black sites, secret detention centers, but our understanding is that there could be many more. the hope is not just on the hope of the senate foreign relations committee but those we're speaking to that the u.n. will be able to broadening its mandate and take in so much more of what's happening on the ground. >> if the u.n. human rights council does pursue an investigation, what are the next steps? >> well, then you're looking potentially at an expansion of sanctions against iran at a u.n.

security council or a mu multilateral u.n. body level. and that really is because of the vast escalation of sanctions under former president trump. that is one of the few remaining levers available not just to the international community but also to the u.s. and i think on some levels that's why it's so telling that the senate foreign relations committee is publicly calling out to the u.n. in this way, because they have so few levers, so few pressure point as valuable to them to try to bring the iranian regime back into task in terms of how it's treating its own people. >> any response from iranian authorities? >> well, they've continued much of their uncomfortable propaganda against my team, against cnn, much of what we're used to in terms of this is imperial overreach, these are lies, but the videos that we've been seeing, the social media content, so much of what we've been hearing for so long from the people of iran, just the

bravery they've been expressing and continuing to go out onto those streets, day in, day out, that doesn't lie, anderson, whatever propaganda iranian authorities are trying to use. the reality is that iran's people are speaking out very loudly and very little propaganda can buttress the impact of that. >> appreciate it, thank you. >> thank you. just ahead a m much differe story one year after will l smi slapped chris rock. the comedian came punching back in a new netflix special. harry enten joins us with the bruising details. hey bud. wow. what's all this? hawaii was too expensive so i brought it here. you know with pricele you could actually take that trip for less tn all this. i made a horrible mistake.

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there's a lot of anticipation building for comedian chris rock's big cheddy special. this year rock appeared at his first ever live event streamed globally, and he did not disappoint. >> words hurt w. that's what they say. got to watch what you say because words hurt. you know, anybody that says words hurt has never been

punched in the face. [ lau [ laughter ] >> this has been much discussed on tv today. we decided to turn to harry enten to see if he could find anything new in the numbers. so did -- that slap, how did that impact chris rock's career? >> yeah, i think it helped the guy out, and i think there are two ways we can essentially look at it. first off, we can look at his public name recognition. the percentage of people who know who the heck he actually is, that was up nearly 20 points after the slap. so he got it that way. two, look at the number of instagram followers he has. up 35%. so look, we talk about, you know, all notoriety is good notoriety. while i'm sure chris rock would have preferred not to have been slapped in the face, i'm pretty sure on that one, the fallout for him was a good fallout. he got a boost in the number of people who know who he is. >> i understand you looked at a q score. >> apparently nobody knows what a q score is.

>> i've never quite understood what a q score is. >> it's a poll and it says, okay, given these actors or these public figures, is this one of your favorite people in the entire world or one of your favorite actors, and that's your positive q score and then lower down on the scale you just have a fair or poor score, and that's your negative q score. look at will smith's positive score. it dropped tremendously pre-slap versus post-slap. it dropped from 39% to just 24. his negative q score rose from 10 to 26. he was one of the most popular actors out there, one of people's favorites, and now he is not anywhere close to that. >> what were their work? does data have anything to say about that? take a look at the rotten tomatoes audience score. chris rock's comedy special, 85% of the fans liked it. look at will smith's emancipation film. just 55% of fans liked that. >> that's apples and oranges. >> it may be apples and oranges. i like to make a little bit of a smoothie here, and what i will tell you is that -- will smith's

score is way down. his average score is about 68%. this is well below his average score, so to me will smith is coming in under his average while chris rock is coming in above his average, and i think, you know what? that makes a willot of sense gi the notoriety. >> thank you very much. >> always a math lesson with you. >> a bittersweet piece of news ahead. we'll be right back. of the complete liline of suvs atat the invitation to lexus sales event. here's how tommy lost 30 lbs on noom weight. i'm tom. noom helped him use psychology to lose weight. the mindful aspect made me feel more conscious about what was eating and y i was eating it. it's actually working. lose wght and make it last with noom weight.

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